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she wants everyone to be at her level. without our connected suffering. pain is inevitable suffering is a choice.
hey mission is equality
you both are lying 😂🎉
she deserves to sit on her throne.
I was hyper-sexual as a child, but did not experience any form of sexual abuse. The two are not always related.
You’re right, but she is exhibiting an exuberant amount of other symptoms that might be a a result of abuse as well.
true, people do not want to look at other causes of these behaviors in children and are dead set solely on the "it happened to them" card while ignoring anything else, but I don't think they realize how counterproductive that is. by ignoring other causes, you're just making it harder to prevent those causes, how can you prevent something you won't even acknowledge
I really enjoyed this podcast. I'm actually more intrigued by the videos about her, than her actual videos. It must be mostly the wealthy that can afford her retreats. It shouldn't be her business whether her clients cut off their families. This also could make it harder for people who were sexually abused, to be listened to seriously and get real help. Thanks for sharing this video.❤
Ugh I have so much to say. But to keep it short. My mom went to a similar “healer” and came back to tell me that she “discovered” that when I was sexually abused as a child that “it actually never affected me, and I used the story to get attention” yeah I was 30 before I worked that one out in REAL therapy. These “healers” are DANGEROUS. What my mom said really messed me up for YEARS
Whoah, I’m so sorry! 💜💜
@@ZelphOntheShelf ❤️❤️ appreciate the awareness y’all bring to such important issues!
Sounds like your mum is super narcissistic that it never affected her
Strongly believe Teal wouldn't subscribe to what your mother told you
Omg, I'm so sorry. That must have been awful. Its great you are able to work thru it with a licenced doctor. Agree those healers are just as dangerous as all pseudo doctors selling snake oil ... I hope it will be regulated one day. I am not saying that they never helped anyone but the risk of damage is just huge.
The whole bad ideologies/institutions can still have some good ideas thing is so important. Recently my friend said she feels that she follows a Christian moral code because of sentiments like 'love thy neighbour.' The most salvageable parts of Christianity are, in my opinion, often the most generic whereas once you unpack the uniquely Christian ideas it gets dodgy.
I find the "cherry picking" aspect so interesting. I mean if you really have to cherry pick so hard and on the other hand struggle to explain away the other bad stuff with, what's the idea of continuing that religion? When you could just find another belief or value system that is more compatible with you personally? But I guess it's really difficult for most people to leave their familiar, reliable circles, especially if they have no other community or support in their lives.
@@venlakirahvi I think a lot of it tends to be working within the system you were raised in if you were raised religious, whereas for people who have converted it tends to be the community aspect. I think both also tend to struggle with the idea of "losing" the sunk cost of time and effort that they put into the belief system, so changing it or cherry picking it doesn't feel like a loss whereas completely changing does
@@venlakirahvi Many people understand that the religion was based on some important core truths and practice christianity in that way. There are as many ways to relate to christianity as there are christians. I think that's how
I’m undergoing an existential crisis. Her videos came up due to certain questions I searched in CZcams. Long story short, while watching, I felt something was “off” about her energy, but thought I was being judgmental or resistant to what she had to say due to the back-and-forth side effect of this crisis. Glad I found your video on her, because your energy is something I can resonate with, proving that the “offness” I felt from Teal was correct. Definitely felt some type of personality issue, but overlooked it at first because of her content and the answers I seek. Gave me more faith in myself and my intuition upon seeing your video, though.
LOVE hearing that you gained some faith in yourself and your intuition! 💕
I really feel this comment! So glad that videos like this and Mormon Stories podcast and The Deep End are being made so that we can validate that pervasive feeling of offness that comes with watching Teal videos that so many of us have just gaslit ourselves upon experiencing 🌈
Her incredible **carelessness** was what immediately jumped out at me and sent up all the red flags. That was exactly the word I thought of, too, Tanner.
It's simple. If you undergo regular therapy you have to face your demons, believes and you have to do very hard work. Which is long tedious and sometimes may seem unefective since there is no everlasting happiness at the end. Hence loads of people turn to strong gurus who tell them what to think and what to do. It's sad and exploitative.
If I have to live this whole life trying to "heal" going to trauma therapy just to make my "point of attraction" change? And I'm so fuckin' unlucky STILL... Still the worst shit happens to me
@@babyhunt2000 there's light through the tunnel, not just at the end. I think a big thing to remember is that all of life is a journey, and while sometimes it sucks, you're still doing your best to thrive. Going to therapy can feel a lot like rehashing things over and over before making a breakthrough then struggling a lot to make a quantifiable change, but already just embarking on that process of doing your best to help yourself is going to start to improve your life. So it's not just that you'll have improvement at the end of the journey and everything will be perfect. Therapy is to help you improve your reactions and coping mechanisms now while facing your traumas so later they affect you less because you have more practice to lean on
I don't like a number of things about Teal, but I've been to six psychologists and a psychiatrist. I've also taken healing sessions with a completion process practitioner (a healer trained by Teal), and watched plenty of Teal's videos. The completion process sessions felt at least as psychologically intensive / challenging as the normal psychology work. I don't think it's the easy / lazy road.
As someone who has actually recovered traumatic memories it's insane that someone with that with that experience would want to induce it in other. Your brain forgets stuff for a reason and is usually protecting you. Recovering memories is an extremely painful and distressing and is unnecessary to healing from trauma.
Yes nature is wiser. We forget certain things for a reason
I was told that I had repressed memories and was made to believe that my family was evil. I very much understood the tactics she uses. I also saw someone in the documentary that I knew. I sure hope her followers find their way out.
What I saw was a woman desperately trying to hold control. Period she herself has a lot of healing to do
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I’m a professional magician.
I see right through Teal Swan
This is the best comment I have seen about her😂
It’s scary how easily people fall for Teal & her teachings and ramblings. The same goes for how many people think Jordan Peterson can say or do no wrong. Why do humans feel the need to worship somebody?
Teal teaches to listen to how you feel, honor your feelings with healthy boundaries, the importance of win-win in relationships…..so scary!
@@tomektalk4671 🤣love you
I can't believe people follow her considering her comments. I'm not one for cancel culture but she has said horrendous things about minorities. Im not sure how any of her followers can justify these statements:
I got lost in this horrendous neighborhood in New Jersey. I was really interested in watching these women. Most of them were African American women, a lot of them were really overweight. I wanted to tap into what they were feeling like…Some of them were actually feeling so hopeless that they were wanting rape."
In a video where she is describing how she was made to look beautiful for people on every continent by the Arcturians she contrasts herself with a woman from Africa claiming “A really beautiful woman down in Africa may come up to the U.S. and be considered pretty ugly.”
In a blog post she uses offensive and prejudice language about the people of Costa Rica, “People who live in a primitive state, more like animals in their behavior than people…Or the sexual aggression of so many of the men here…Or the fact that most people here are so relaxed that they operate on a time system all their own and do not seem to bothered by meeting standards of any kind.”
Source: The Gucci Guru, inside teal swans posh cult
Jordan Peterson is another person I avoid listening. He is on another level of elitism on superficial stoicism. Also his ragged voice give me a nehative impression where he loves to convince himself of his moral integrity of having answers to heal society and civilians. He is a covert person who do have intelligence in stoicism but ..... his delivery feels very rubbery. Like he doesnt set his shared wisdom free. It become a knowledge thats etched in I take credit for your intelligence as you believe my words type of narcissism.
@@mendingwall3823 whoa.... what kind of distorted negative words coming out of a "spiritual guru"
THANK YOU for talking about her.
She was recommended to me on Facebook a few months ago even though I’d never heard of her or searched her or anything ever before
I think the algorithm pushed her on me because I’m her target demographic 😟
And you’re so right. The first couple of minutes of something she says sounds fine and then she’ll suddenly just say something crazy.
In terms of her appeal I really think it has a lot to do with her beauty and charisma. She definitely has a ‘presence’ of sorts.
Same. I don't engage with much spiritual or guru type content that she makes, and her vids have been pushed onto my CZcams shorts page several times. I follow some witchy content that errs the side of life coaching on insta so maybe that's why my phone thought I'd like teal? I think I'm in her target demographic too
@@sydneychristensen2058 I think for me it’s the fact I have mental health problems idk
I don’t follow witchy content or new age life-coach things
But yes there’s probably quite a few factors in determining who gets pushed towards her content!
Thank you both for once again "entertaining me"! You bring a happy smile to my face.
Thank you for your clarity and thoughtfulness on this video!
We lost our oldest a few years ago & while dealing with my grief I got to a point where I needed to find my way out of that darkness & I felt like I needed guidance on how to spiritually reconnect, so I searched how to reconnect with my guides & stumbled onto some of her videos. I didn't know if her stories were true, but I did feel sad for her. Though I could never connect with her energy - like her energy felt wrong to me... if that makes sense?! I really just don't like the way she made me feel. I mean, I don't judge her or anyone who follows her - to each their own. Her vibe is just not for me!
Teal Swan gives me the heebie jeebies and I don't know why but I feel bad for saying that because she is a trauma victim. For that reason, I've never seen her content unless I watch a video of someone reviewing it. But, I cringe at the thought of even watching this video just talking about her :/
She has a very intense, curt, and closed off energy despite preaching a message of healing and connection. I suppose that traumas both real and imagined will do that to you though.
@@sydneychristensen2058 I totally agree with you!
@@sydneychristensen2058 exactly
She wears other peoples energy for spirituality but pushed her sexuality to charm followers and make them feel special.
I listened to the interview on Mormon Stories with her childhood friend a few weeks ago. It was really brave, I was hoping to hear your interview with her so I’m glad you’ve provided a link.
Damn I had no idea about any of this. Her videos kept popping up in my Shorts and a lot of them appealed to me, as someone who struggles with suicidal ideation etc. I always assumed she was a psychologist or something... Glad that I wasn't sucked in beyond the odd video, this stuff is chilling. Always interesting to hear your perspective on these things!
Her teachings would help you. Dont listen to these idiots..
I don’t know if they go over this in the video- but she intentionally targets depressed and suicidal people utilizing her team’s knowledge of SEO and other internet marketing. It’s incredibly dangerous. Revisiting the whole Deep End reaction space, because her videos keep popping up again lately.
I hadn't heard of her until the most recent MS episode, and I don't even usually listen, but holy crap was that a rabbit hole! Her responses to the documentary are pretty awful too and telling of person with a lot of insecurity who would benefit from actual therapy and a job where she works with peers and not followers. Learning to collaborate and cooperate does wonders for communication skills, empathy, humility, and confidence.
@@annesofie1412 czcams.com/video/pY04M9tNEq0/video.html
Her responses are something to behold. You can just feel the narcissistic rage. I'm worried for the people close by to her
Teal's 'mission' is essentially trying to force people to behave in the way she wants them to- but she introduces it as if she has the best interests of those who engage with her in mind, I can confirm that she does not, if it ever comes into conflict with getting people to behave as she wants them to. She has almost no respect for autonomy and free will which is why she can't collaborate.
You two are so much in synch - I love your videos.
I haven’t watched this video yet! But thankyou for giving a perspective on this! I watched a few of her videos when I realized the church was lying! Now I’m honestly scared to believe anything
I pretty much have had the same experience with Teal's content as Sam. She randomly popped up in my CZcams shorts and has done so here and there for a while. Most of her vids were pretty tame and generic so I was like ok sure I agree with that, and just scrolled on. She had fine points as far as I saw but I didn't feel drawn enough to seek her content out cuz she has a bit of a megalomaniac type of energy to me lol. I recently have been seeing more discourse about her by people I follow like John Dehlin and it took me a minute to put the face to the name, I had no idea she was so...much. Lol. I def want to watch the doc now and come back to this vid
Great analysis. New subscriber and fan!
She scares me a lot.
Me too. I can't put my finger on it. Very unsettling.
From someone who had my awakening in 2012 and was a long time meditator and doing energy work long before Teal came along. From working with the light it was easy to see that she was complete darkness and still is. She is dangerous. No true healer wants to control the lives of others or build an unstoppable company that wants to dominate the world the way she said.
Your reiki or whatever is exactly as nonsense as hers is.
My brother was married to Teal Swans doppleganger. She was such a difficult person and so controlling. They even look a like.
Everything about Teal Swan reminded me of the leader of a cult I was in as a teen.
She is a dangerous individual
Surprised you didn't speak on "I'm here to end ALL human suffering"
The comments you made at the end are what make me wonder what other secret rules are in place for the Q12 and other people at the top of Mormonism. It's totally possible that we haven't seen anyone that high up leave because they all sincerely believe, but I'm super curious what protections they have in place to keep people from even entertaining the thought that it could all be wrong or afraid to admit it when they do think that.
This is actually such a good point! I never even thought of that.
Off topic , but Tanner consistently makes me internally go , “oh I am GAY Gay. “ thnk u
From my understanding, repressed memories do exist, they're just not 'in a box with a key' like Sam said. There's no clear blank space where they should be, they just blend into the rest of the surrounding memories.
My partner and I were just talking about Teal Swan yesterday, crazy timing!
Watch her explanations to why the documentary portrayed her how she was portrayed. She has actual recordings of the convo when the dude asked her if she looks up to anyone and it's not at all what the "docu series" released. There's a lot of missing audio. Same to when the one girl said "it's BS" about her life being better after seeing TS. Again, audio missing and spliced together to make it sound not as it was.
There are much bigger issues than the documentary, but I can believe it was misleading with footage.
Where can I find her response to the Diana/Mormon video? I’d love to see that..
Teal Swan reminds me of a Mormon girl I once knew who left Mormonism and then had a mental breakdown. It wouldn't surprise me if Teal is an ex-Mormon.
I only recently discovered Teal and I do not perceive her to be the least bit morbid. I have not been exposed to the entirety of her content but for what I have consumed she comes off as highly informational and straightforward, definitely a masculine presence however as a psychologist I do appreciate information disseminated like a lecture. I can’t help but feel that garnering this cult leader reputation is in part the topics she discusses and the types of people her content may attract. With my overlapping interests in witchcraft and the occult, I think these topics also inherently cause people discomfort and the potential for misunderstandings and projections of our fears onto someone like her is facilitated. For me, the proof is in the pudding. If I or the people I have worked with have benefitted from Teal’s insights - feeling more whole, at peace less conflict, more connected- what harm has really been done? You can misapply or misunderstand anything anyone on CZcams says but in her case because of her position of power and perceived (granted) authority she seems to have attracted undue criticism. People disseminate harmful incorrect information on social media everyday and at this time I fail to see how she is one of them. In any case people do have a tendency to idolize people in positions of power to their own detriment all the time. The cult o the Kardashians have contributed to so much shame and body dysmorphia, irreversible physical, psychological, and spiritual damage to people and yet people are worried about this woman. No be is above examination but this woman clearly triggers people and it’s interesting that people don’t reflect on that but at the same time willingly and unconsciously follow much worse ideologies and people that are socially sanctioned, like politicians and prominent people like Bill Gates. Not impressed with the discourse on the “controversy,” in fact, it seems dramaticized to me in the grand scheme of things that actually threaten our well being and spiritual evolution.
i mean she did hire a private investigator to prove her organization isn’t a cult and the investigator ended up telling her it is. we hear you on there being more harmful people in the world. but we’re not telling anyone to follow bull gates or the kardashians either. we’re glad if her content helps anyone but there is no doubt that some of her teachings and practices (like using debunked false memory implantation to convince people they’ve been raised in a satanic sex cult) are actually very dangerous.
@@ZelphOntheShelf I am aware of the controversies around memory implantation and the harm that they can cause. For better and for worse, this is a risk some practitioners choose to take and as part of a clear informed consent process is something a consenting individual should be able to choose to do if undergoing such therapies and treatment including regression therapies. Just my professional opinion. Given her niche, topics of discussion, & her as a person, the development of excessive devotion absolutely can be a problem. However, the word cult can be defined in many ways and not all "cults" are harmful. Our culture uses the term pejoratively but this is a complex, nuanced topic. I would have to look into why whatever she is doing is classified that way so I admit to ignorance but saying it's a cult doesn't mean anything to someone like me, I would need more context on that which I will pursue so thank you for pointing that out.
@@Ladylovesdogs you can see the investigators report on the hulu documentary, The Deep End. while she argues she was taken out of context, i would assert that the way she speaks to people when she’s not performing on youtube is inherently harmful and controlling. i wouldnt speak to anyone like that in any context.
@@ZelphOntheShelf
The deep end show was not a documentary, there's literally clips online showing how they edited an entire 2h workshop session by adding two completely different scenes together to make it seem weird, not to mention the audio editing and how there's original footage released showing how the show would place an audio from a completely different scene on to another one. Or how the scenes and the things that happened in the show aren't even lined up in a consecutive order. Eg Blake is seen moving out towards the end, when really he moved out right when the show started. The deep end show was literally a hoax and has been debunked.
I've also watched probably hours worth of her workshops, and she literally just has a regular conversation with people, asking them questions about themselves etc.
I've pretty much watched every video of this woman, and read a lot of her articles and blogs. None of the things she says are giving extreme and they're actually very helpful. As for her thoughts on repressed memories, she has stated in the past that not all repressed memories are accurate, and they just reflect how you subconsciously feel sometimes and are thus mostly to be used as a tool to understand yourself.
I like some of her videos on depression, parts work, and trauma but once I read her book hearing about her satanic cult story and her thinking she’s an alien I realized I didn’t connect with her much.
Thank you for this video. You have woken me up.
She reminds me of Elizabeth Holmes. Low masculine voice, minimal facial expressions, and just kind of dry. It obviously hypnotizes some people, I just don't see the appeal of the somber way of speaking. she's the opposite of a charismatic leader.
Everyones voice has an energy signature. Its hard to find a moment where you can pick up a sincere down to earth sweet energy from Teal. She often starts off by huffing puffing this air of extravagance before starting a point she wants to share. Some people have a airy throat. When they speak, they mentally reorganise their nervous system to make up for her layers of insecurity by and through making themselves sound authoritative, powerful, entitled, commanding. She program herself this personality so she would never be challenged by anyone who is more authentic and genuine than her. Because if it ever happens, this layer of personality she built in as automatic prime personality will always kick into gear and her body language, its very masculine and inviting people to entertain her with their attention and she keeps living her best life through the validation from huge groups of starry eyed worshippers. Her spirit is a man and not a woman. Back to previous point about the personality, she doesnt like a challenging divine feminine because she is not divine feminine. So she retorts to questions of divine feminine nature with a snort and a subliminal body language where she would substract the enemy in front of her while imitating the enemies cognitive response claiming as her own. She builds her identity from many genuine people who are true healer and can heal, but she curse them by stealing their light and block their good karma. If you compare her voice signature with other female spiritual guru or wonderful successful woman who are wise and compassionate. She is a grunt and is not even on their level. She may have a chimera spirit attachment or ancient djinn that possessed her soul and took over her body for their pleasure of living on this planet earth while deluding people who are easily swayed by sexual perversion and attraction and many people who fall for her movement have trauma regarding mentally abusive parents who throw enticing breadcrumbs and expect adoration and idolisation. Most of her followers gain from the feeling special she gave them and its like a toxic affection. Its unhealthy connection. Despite what she shared on her channel about spirituality, the facts are 70% apparently quite thought provoking, but she isnt fully anchored in her heart and humbled down. Her success is genuinely sourced from PR strategy of because she can use her sexuality and lay many claims. For a sensational story. She will continue squeezing this juice till the very last drop.
What a bunch of word-salad nonsense. Teal Swan is gross, but so are you with this bullshit.
New Age cult leaders are fascinating, because it’s really easy to see how they got to where they are. It is interesting that a lot of cult members will also defend these things, in the same way that people defend Christianity (not saying that Christianity is inherently a cult but…) by basically saying that the positive things outweigh the negatives. That’s not actually how anything works though, the only way methods can improve and actually be overall positive is if they are open to criticism and open to change and growth. If the methods are supposed to be flawless and work for everyone inherently by nature, then they can’t be criticised. And this is the trap that cults fall into, is thinking the methods are above criticism. Anything or anyone who believes they are above criticism are ultimately going to be harmful, and continuously harmful, and any positives cannot outweigh harmful things when those harmful things aren’t being addressed or changed. Nothing is above criticism, and if your instinct is to jump to defend any criticisms levelled towards your belief before considering whether the criticism is valid, it’s probably time to take a step back and reflect on why it feels like a personal attack and why you feel as if you can’t accept feedback. Just because you feel defensive or attacked in the moment, it doesn’t mean that acting on that instinct is valid.
I do honestly think that Christianity and the rise of the nuclear family is largely to blame for the rise of modern cults. The nuclear family completely obliterated community other than those religiously associated, which inherently creates a society where people join religions and potentially cults to fulfil the inherent need for community. And the majority of modern cults are either based on or based in opposition to Christianity. These things are also tied to capitalism and the fact that late-stage capitalism has caused further divides in community and lack of meaning in life. It’s not hard to see why cults rise up, and there are active things that can be done to counter it. But it would involve breaking down Christianity and Capitalism and modern societal roles, which is a huge task. Removing people from a cult doesn’t solve the issue, because the gap that the cult filled is not inherently filled by re-entering society. It is telling that a lot of people who were raised in cults like Mormonism will become sort of like cult-hoppers, because it’s so much easier to go to something familiar than to actually move into new territory.
This was a long and rambling comment. But yeah, the point is the issue with cults is simultaneously an individual and a larger societal problem, and solving one will not fix the issue, it needs to be a complete overhaul of everything that leads to cults, which isn’t going to happen anytime soon unfortunately. We can continue to take small steps, moving towards the bigger goal.
Absolute banger of a comment 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I would love a whole episode on just this topic: the intersection of cults, religion, and community or the lack thereof in today’s society, at least in the US if not further afield.
I am a life long mistique ... in Europe (almost 60 yrs old). So i never was phisically in teal's workshops or other physical meetings.
I watched like 10 or 15 of here youtubes. And she makes sense in most things she says.
She looks to me like a natural in understandings the way the universe works.
(i am like that as well). You may have opinions and understandings and these are subject to change over years .... not really to change but to evolve and grow and become a special case in a more global frame that you discover with time. It's a natural process.
I see that she is generous and willing to help people around.
And , logically, some hiccups can take place .... and some people producing nothing start criticising. They create nothing, so they hook on what others create, to claim creation by criticising negatively. They look and most of the time are sincere. But prisoner in their bubble. That is the difference of someone like Teal who will get out of here bubbles one after the other. And then she may also fall as a reaction of attacks ... .
All normal stuff among homo sapiens.
She keeps doing not to bad and bringing knowledge to humanity.
Teal has all my respect.
A friend showed me her and to be honest, I couldn’t see the appeal. She seems very robotic, lacking empathy. Like behind her eyes there is nothing there. I’ve been in contact with a ton of spiritual leaders and can tell when someone has light in them.
Well after hearing two interviews from her ex boyfriend and her childhood friend, intuition confirmed. She displays various characteristics of a narcissist.
Apparently she put out a video saying how the narratives were changed yet in that video did not address how she treated Juliana after she questioned her methodologies.
People tend to forget the best narcissists always display a good front in the public eye and are highly intelligent. One good example is Ted Bundy.
OK, I'm totally confused after watching two of Teals response videos to the doc about her. It does appear the producers mislead her and did alot of splicing which Teal documents in her favor. So who is the better editor? Admittedly I have poor disgression after being in two cults myself, but I must confess the two hour video interview with her on veganism, spiritual diet etc and her vegan recipe videos resonate pretty deep for me.
Watch Diana Ribera’s Mormon Stories interview! I’m sure the documentary was misleading with footage but the issues with Teal are much bigger than that.
@@ZelphOntheShelf yes, i will. and i have to remember there are positive and attractive aspects all cults.
@@ZeBeFruity one of my youtube video audience was in a cult previously and when she broke out of it, she got sucked into a different cult. A magic cult that tells in order to have a rebirth you will need to dig your own grace and sleep in it for one night. She showed me photos and I was shaking my head.
Why can I not like this more! This is one of the only critical videos out there on her. This stuff is RIDICULOUS!
Have you watched the recent response videos where she exposes some of the scenes that were twisted in the documentary ? She obviously has some original footage too, and it seems to be totally different. The film makers really betrayed her too. You could say that it was for the sake of "exposing" her… but how is that approach helpful to twist things ? I like to hear different perspectives… but I think the truth here is not that black and white… it’s a very complex thing.
We understand that there is a lot of nonsense that goes on with documentary makers and don’t doubt that this one is any different, but there are things she says and does that are concerning regardless of context.
I have always seen Teal as honest, authentic, vulnerable, wise human being. I actually think the people who make videos like this about Teal have huge blindspots around the traits that Teal has about themselves.
I'm forever grateful for Teal for all the support I've got. I got my life back. I have been part of the community for atleast 7 years and always wonder where is this cult everybody is always talking about, I want to join!
Seems like Teal has definitely had a positive impact on some people! The cult-ish aspects are once you get closer to her inner circle, as we saw in The Deep End and other journalism pieces about her. As for being honest and authentic, I’m afraid I can’t agree with you there, after having interviewed her childhood best friend and seen other evidence of her not being those things.
I think Teal provides a space for people to connect with their vulnerability, which is obviously a much-needed thing in our world. But it’s not inherently good when it’s combined with dangerous practices, her superiority complex, and vulnerable people.
Nobody intentionally joins a cult. People join a community. The cult is the process of indoctrination and when you remove your own choices outside of that group/identity.
I am a life long mistique ... in Europe (almost 60 yrs old). So i never was phisically in teal's workshops or other physical meetings.
I watched like 10 or 15 of here youtubes. And she makes sense in most things she says.
She looks to me like a natural in understandings the way the universe works.
(i am like that as well). You may have opinions and understandings and these are subject to change over years .... not really to change but to evolve and grow and become a special case in a more global frame that you discover with time. It's a natural process.
I see that she is generous and willing to help people around.
And , logically, some hiccups can take place .... and some people producing nothing start criticising. They create nothing, so they hook on what others create, to claim creation by criticising negatively. They look and most of the time are sincere. But prisoner in their bubble. That is the difference of someone like Teal who will get out of here bubbles one after the other. And then she may also fall as a reaction of attacks ... .
All normal stuff among homo sapiens.
She keeps doing not to bad and bringing knowledge to humanity.
Teal has all my respect.
@@tomcat9112 Very convenient way to disregard bad information on someone you like. Similar to the saying, "Oh they're just jealous". Sometimes people are just psychopaths.
Then you need to learn to be more discerning in who you follow
You make good point that emotional issues are NOT often rooted in buried memories. Modern Cognitive Therapy has proven that most emotional issues are due to sloppy and distorted thinking. Even childhood issues can still be healed by simply examining the distorted thinking and fixing it up.
Spirituality is sophistry of the materially privileged.
Best comment.
Imo, people are pretty naive to swallow this to the point of paying hundreds or thousands of dollars for it. Sheez, anyone with any deep thinking ability can come up with the same shit. But people really worship her even though it's obvious she's just about money and is obsessed with herself.
Diana's eyes is all over the place in the interview. Mixing memories with constructs.
Even though I am sometimes drawn to some of the teaching of these modern new age gurus, I stick to licensed psychotherapist (who have supervisors) to deal with my sh*t. When I watch Teal's "interventions" my stomach turns.
She has massive red flag Energy to me and I wish I wasn't so keyed into this type of thing but every time I've gotten this vibe I've been dicht and the perspn has been best a fairly harmless narcissist to full on destructive.
I can’t think of anything worse for trauma survivors than the stuff teal swan has them do. It’s shocking more people haven’t committed suicide after she has them reenact false memories.
I watched s video by her about bpd because i suspect my partner is bpd and trying to undrrstand it and she seemed so annoyed and defensive about bpd that i instantly thought, she is bpd. Which makes sense listening to this video as bpd have these narcassidtic traits
To me, the equation is simple. The moment you involve monetary reward/payment where your livelihood depends on the "help" you are offering, there needs to be some kind of of regulatory body to manage this so there is limited possibility of abuse. This is why medical professionals have to fit certain criterias and training to qualify. There is still potential abuse however those who abuse are aware they are not following the basic reason for entering that profession. Anytime you have someone triggered by a person asking about your credentials or who inspired you to to become the "helper" that you long to be, there is dissonance with what you claim to be and what you've actually become and offer in reality. The first rule of manipulation is to make you doubt your own intuition.
Yeah teal may be sketchy but she is a genius, her teachings really work the best. she saved my life tbh.
What things does she teach that you believe are unique?
@@ZelphOntheShelf the "completion process" especially is the most unique and effective. Also parts work although I think other psychologist had already knew about it, but she made it easier and more simple to use. AND she has completely different views on emotions, and they are all hers originally.
@@chochodelluv891Nothing she says or does is original.
@@chochodelluv891 "they are all hers originally" is a huge red flag if u believe it, feels like a brainwashed parrot
Her channel is awesome. That’s why it has million plus followers. Solid content. Unlike this channel. You will never find a Teal video talking down about anyone. She doesn’t believe in vilifying people. She could get more views if she talked trash and did negative stuff like this channel but she’s above that.
Personality disorders are not diagnosed in childhood.
You're Wrong About shout-out 🥰
The only thing I stucked on was the 5000$ for the retreat... for the rest just by her eyes you know she's fake
Teal is a wonderful gift to humanity
Would love to hear how you feel you’ve benefitted from her, if you’re willing to share :)
@@ZelphOntheShelf so much more than I can ever express in a short comment. She is real. Wise and I see her as one of the greatest teachers of our times. I am not a teal swan fanatic, or follower . Never met her. I see her power and intention and her wise ability to share focused tools to help humanity.
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@@MotherIsRising what do you make of the problematic points brought up in the video? I think very troubled people can speak truth, but when you see a problem of pathological lying you start to wonder if this is the best person to follow, even if they do say some good things.
@@MotherIsRising She is full of demons sweetie. You lack discernment. You've probably never been around a wise person
Why is it that all these documentaries about cults are popping up now? Or is it just me that thinks that
All any intelligent person needs to do is learn about her earlier life. Listen to people who lived with her and were friends with her in her teens. I believe she was very much spoiled by her over protective and over indulgent parents who gave her everything her little heart desired. They tolerated any bad behavior and constantly told her she was "special'. I think early on, she exhibited signs of personality disturbances that were inborn. Her parents believed that by giving her "everythin" she would improve. As a child, she told a therapist she believed she was the reincarnation of Cleopatra and that her parents were there to serve her. She tells people she cannot do any housework or cleaning because she was programmed by this satanic cult to never do "self care". The women who've lived with her for years do all the cleaning and dirty work for her. Who could be dumb enough to fall for this manipulation? She had other women raise her son because she just wasn't into the "mother thing". There is nothing legitimate about her. She has no formal education beyond high school. She has admitted to suffering from severe mental illnesses. Her past behaviors would lead one to believe she has very poor character and possesses no ethics or morals of any kind. Her only credential is this incredibly ridiculous back story she cooked up about being from another planet and having special powers, like seeing through bone and skin. She says she can read your mind and even move things with her thoughts. I think she believes she is better than the rest of us. The only credential she has is this sickening story about being held by a satanic cult headed by this veterinarian who was helping her with her horse. She claims he was raped by him at 4, and many times after this, impregnated and aborted by him, sewn into a corpse, prostituted out of men's rooms as a child, forced to entice small children into the group so they could be burned to death, had sex with a dead body at 19 and went onto say the vet ate part of this dead guys leg because he was a cannibal. She could barely contain laughing at this point. In one online interview, she expresses hatred for Elizabeth Smart simply because she came from wealth. This Chris Oswalt tv interview is still online but very long and very crazy. She is very low brow when it comes to the stuff she if putting out and a woman who lived with her several years ago said she gets everything for her little you tube videos directly from other people's books which she frequently takes verbatim. Sardeep Swan, her ex husband, used to have a podcast about her but gave it up. He claims she cheated on him on their honeymoon. He more disturbingly says she let it by known to him she is obsessed with money and fame and will do anything to get both. He claimed she knows she is a fraud and is fine with it. To me , thisis the worst thing. I think the only ones who can contain her are the feds. She has received numerous warnings about doing psychotherapy without a license, but this has no effect on her.
You guys are awesome 😎 I hope you do a retreat or seminar on self help. I would pay my to see it. Much love from an x nephrite gay boy ❤️
So how do you guys suggest people experience community, belonging, structure, meaning, being apart of something bigger than ourselves etc.? Because clearly these are human needs? Does truth actually exist? And if it does, how do we find out what truth is? I would like to avoid joining another cult, but it’s like my human nature needs the things cults provide, and when I’m not experiencing a sense of meaning, I can’t seem to stave off the feelings of hopelessness and dread that our lives are ultimately meaningless. How do we justify hope and joy, if we don’t know the truth? Genuinely struggling for answers.
Spiritual abundance after Mormonism (what we believe now)
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Quite happy to say I was the 666th view on this, considering all the satanic cults I’m definitely a part of
I don't think we have hulu in Germany, so I have never heard of her!
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From my understanding, children don’t have personality disorders. They develop as a young adult.
They might be diagnosed with conduct disorder, which can lead to possible PD diagnosis as an adult, but yeah; kids aren't typically diagnosed with PDs.
What about teenagers?
@@azukib2230 the personality gets developed over a lifetime but they are not rigid enough to be considered personality disorders until adulthood. The problematic behaviors are there as children but are changeable.
Its almost as if she resurrected Sumerian Goddess Inanna worship with her as the avatar of that goddess in both aspects. Watching some of Teal Swan's videos, she's definitely and knowingly using many techniques, wordplay, and body language that I personally found disturbing. It was like experiencing an all out attack from a con-woman. I found Broadway actresses are more subtle, honestly.
Not gonna lie
Teal Swan scares me... I believe her story more power to her
But wow isn't this world peculiar and everyone in it
Teal Swan is my greatest teacher
Would love to meet her up
Listen to Osho, Kryshnamurti, Sadhguru, Thich Nhat Hanh, those are ACTUAL GURUS.
She got so triggered when that guy told her he was there to have sex with her!!! That was just crazy to me! What happened that led up to that moment.... very curious.
I would LOVE for you guys to discuss Jordan Peterson. That man drives me nuts! Loved this video!
A solid, ethical, moral, brilliant, happily devoted husband and father drives you nuts???????? Hmmmm....
I'd like to recommend using "died of suicide" or similar instead of "committed suicide" when referencing people who die of suicide. For most people, suicide is a last resort and an unforgiving finality. I think those who die of suicide deserve empathy.
CIA Monarch, look it up and comment? This is what they did.
I'm subscribed to TS. She was just so so for me. Didn't love her, didn't hate her. Felt though something was off. And I saw the Mormon Stories with her best friend, and so watched that earlier today. Then I started to watch an interview with BOHO Beautiful right after and TS was describing her alchemy tattoo. They noticed the scar in the middle and TS said, "it's a scar from my abuser." I was all holy f*ck, she is a psychopathic liar. Very curious thing to become aware of. The scar looked just like a small self harm cut her best friend talked about. I just was shocked at how blatantly and easily she lied to them.
What if she was her past abuser?
The fact that she hired that PI herself is evidence, IMO, that she actually believes she is doing honest work, to some degree (Teal). And she believes that she is not a cult. She doesn't actually understand the ways in which she is a cult. She is very smart - but not nearly as aware as she (and others) thinks she is.
she is still on the internet?! my gawd people have lost their way
I like Teal Swan blogs. Especially, the ones she writes about various cities she have been to.
I didn’t even go looking for this shit until after the Dalai Lama video
Teal is often very misunderstood
The thing is that Teal does not even teach that you should rely on teachers/gurus.
I know she is claiming that she knows everything there is to know at the moment and that makes her hilariously nuts to me but she is still able to self reflect in many areas that people are not acknowledging or even denying.
Teal states in her video about false prophets that one should see every person they encounter as someone with a deck of cards and they can pick a card or more and take them if it benefits you or leave them there.
Teal actively teaches against codependency/people being manipulated.
No, really. I myself am a codependent and Teal literally can‘t stand us.
Which makes me as a codependent really scared to visit her workshop.
Not like terrified scared but because of the fact that Teal would bring up a LOT about my life that I built on inauthenticity (the things I try to deny) as to make me have a stronger sense of self.
But still, every person knows that Teal hates people that do stuff for her even though they don’t want to do it because those people will demonize her if they don‘t get what they want to get.
Teal is no saint AT ALL and she lacks self reflection on many aspects but still, the media is trying to paint her as a cult leader in aspects that are not cultish.
Many people would not follow her if she wouldn‘t offer at least some degree of truth and I think many critics don‘t know the full picture since the perceived „full picture“ is that she is driving people to suicide and harming them which could be true to some degree since we all harm people but not her teachings folks.
If you really think the completion process is scary then you simply don’t know how it works.
It‘s not like this creepy “were you ever abused? Did your father abuse you?“ type of questioning.
It‘s simply just
1. feel the emotion
2. ask the emotion: “when was the first time I felt this“
CPs are not implanting memories, they are simply asking if there are some.
I sound like a lunatic defending Teal but I truly am able to discern about her problematic side on many many aspects but that does not instantly give people the right to spread lies and to create an explosion out of a fire.
Have you watched The Deep End? Highly recommend watching that and also the Mormon Stories interview with Diana Ribera!
@@ZelphOntheShelf
I personally see much more validity in your interview with Diana.
It also baffles me that Teal just tried to act as if Diana was not even her friend even though I have yet to find that clip myself.
However,If any critic recommends/recites the documentary I just cannot take their judgement very seriously.
Bits and pieces are true about her in that documentary but seriously there is so much more out there you can use against her.
Seriously, I know A LOT about Teal, I have watched interviews, podcast with her featured on and when you/Diana/Ex-Followers share their story/take on her I try to be as open and in touch with reality as I can.
Let me tell you, if I came to you, filmed three years of your life, including all the bad things you have said and done in those years and spliced them up together, it would work. And people could use the argument that it‘s still bad even without the context.
Still, things are edited to such a degree that context is actually really, really important.
Oh and if I understood this right you said that Teal tried to convince Diana that Diana was part of that cult, too but in the interview with Diana I can’t recall her stating such thing. I only recall her saying that Teal tried to convince her that TEAL was abused but not that she tried to drag Diana into that.
Maybe I misunderstood that.
Anyway, the case is clear, Teal is someone that has done/stated things that are highly dangerous and manipulated many people.
Even the director claimed that he didn‘t portray the events as they were filmed but much more how they felt to him.
Problem is that you, and many people are seeing Teal through the filter of a cult leader and therefore everything she does gets filtered through that and makes more objective perspectives almost impossible to people like you.
I feel like if you made a documentary about teal the results would be similar and that shows that you are not the best person who should talk about this.
If you want to know if I have examples on some people (including professionals) talking about her in a way more objective way and not in a
“SHES A WITCH“ attitude:
Psychology in Seattle
Mickey Atkins
Pop Psych
Dr. Todd Grande
(Teal Swan is Not a Con Artist by Lindsay which is a pretty interesting take on Teal while seeing her flaws)
@@jbeauty4150 well this topic is not that black and white so excuse me for being all over the map.
At least I can say that I‘m not slipping into black or white thinking.
You haven’t responded to any of my arguments.
Also, Teal hates codependents because
1. she does NOT want people to serve her when it conflicts their personal needs. Codependents do exactly that. They do things that they actually don’t want to do or even never were asked to do and respect something in return and if they don’t get that they lash out on that person and/or call them a narcissist for not doing the same for them.
But stay in your black thinking.
@@jbeauty4150 “you don’t have any arguments“
“Omg SHE‘S PUNCHING ME“
classic
Your description of memory isn't scientifically accurate. Traumatic memory is repressed/dissociated from, but it comes back through post-traumatic stress responses e.g. flashbacks. So, while memories can't be pulled out "neatly from a chest", it's not true to say they can't be repressed either.
We’re not suggesting that traumatic memories can’t be repressed, just that they’re not perfectly preserved while being totally forgotten about for decades. And they certainly can’t be recovered by some random person playing your dad in a group workshop! 😅
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She's like Rose the Hat from Dr. Sleep. She's a loosh vampire.
I found her a few years back. Some of her ideas are adjacent to teachers I really like i.e Alan Wats, Jack Kornfield, Tara Brach etc.
I like them they're great teachers but I thought... What would it be like to find a teacher like this but who is also hot 🔥. So then I found teal swan.
Tried to get into it but the way she delivers her message didn't jive with me. I like watching people who are a bit more animated and are more positive.
LOVE Alan and Jack and Tara!!!!!!!
Teal never makes Videos of others. She just does her thing. She does it well. So many want clicks and attention using Teal. Teal improves and saves lives. Period.
except for when she destroys lives. multiple people have killed themselves after taking her on as a mentor and being told that she was the only one who could help them.
@@ZelphOntheShelf Proof that
@@nightowl8311 It is covered fully in this podcast by someone who interviewed Teal and the victim’s families about it
open.spotify.com/episode/5rQHxrGFpIWFTJYV8ck8K0?si=Cd2lyMXrSsC0DmrOm33Zyw
Please don’t forget about the thousands she has helped including myself over the last 7 years.
I joined Mormonism when I was 17 and it helped me a lot in many ways for a while. Nothing is black and white!
They don’t care about the positive. They only seek to be negative Senvia. They dismiss any positive comments.
@@tomektalk4671 as cult survivors we are fully aware that even the most dangerous organizations and people offer a lot good things to the majority of their followers, otherwise nobody would follow them. it’s still worth talking about the harm they cause through bunk practices or desire for control. cult members always villainous former cult members for “focusing on the negative.” that’s just par for the course in this field.
The way I see this is the way that things are approached in medicine. You can acknowledge that some things are beneficial but the vast majority of the time needs to be spent analyzing and acknowledging the potential drawbacks. We're all wired to be much more affected by negative life events (our brain's way of trying to protect us from future harm), so a negative experience will effect someone a lot more than a positive one will. Also, cults are like lithium for mental health medication. We know that it is beneficial for some things, but even with the things it's beneficial for, the drawbacks are huge for the vast majority of people, even ones who it works for really well.
It's good that you had a positive experience, and I'm glad that it worked for you 🌹
IF Teal had a cult, I'd gladly join! Her content improved my life tenfold!
Have u guys seen if she could ever have a humbling moment? Most real gurus have it. Her aura however, feels like controlling superiority and expectation that everyone else in the room knows less than her and have no direct connection to true god. Thats why its a cult.
So misguided.
I know Teal personally. I've been in the personal growth and development world for 50 years, have a masters degree in mental health counseling. I don't 'follow' Teal. She hasn't turned my life around. My experience of Teal is that she is deeply passionate about helping people suffer less, she's warm and kind, very straightforward when needed, and brilliant. She is one of my favorite people. People who are spreading lies about her is painful to witness. It's painful to see people believing the lies and speaking about her as if they know her.
That’s nice to hear that she’s warm and kind, I could totally see that. But when someone has that much power, their moments of NOT being kind (which there are lots of examples of at this point) can have serious consequences. Also the need for power generally is concerning.
Do you see any issues with her teachings/practices given your masters degree?
I highly recommend watching the Mormon Stories interviews with Diana Ribera and also Jared, her ex.
@@ZelphOntheShelf I have a keen focus on people being kind and respectful. If I see anything unkind, it pops up. Or if I see something that could be unkind, it pops out. I can’t recall if I’ve ever seen her be unkind or respectful. What I do know is that I have no reason to warn anyone who wants to find out about Teal Swan. I’ve done other programs where I would definitely give people a warning.
You and I have a different reality about Teal.
I’ve seen the videos of what other people say. I can’t assess the truthfulness of it if Teal is not there responding. The deep end series was a total farce and a made up documentary. One couldn’t take anything out of there with any confidence and say that it’s truth.
I have witnessed in live videos of TEAL in a couple of situations where she may have been lacking sensitivity, and it may even be unkind. However,People will make mistakes and miscues. There may be some subtle things that teal is doing that are based in mistaken viewpoints and intentions, but I trust her to ferret the them out at some point in time. We all have those. On the whole, TEAL is doing good work and breakthrough work. Breakthrough work will be misunderstood.
I’ve also studied with a fine tooth comb at times what other people are saying against TEAL. Sometimes it has me give pause and think, maybe they’re right about this. But so far nothing has really stuck that has me waiting to see if TEAL is going to change her ways. I haven’t found anything that I feel she needs to change, at least nothing that I think is harming another person. People can take some of what she’s saying and experience harm, but I don’t see TEAL being a person who’s getting any pleasure out of somebody experiencing harm.
@@billwhite5011 it’s really sweet for you to give such thoughtful responses but closed minded people such as this don’t take anything into account and just do not care. You could bring them solid proof and they will always twist it around. They are just self serving and full of themselves.
@@tomektalk4671 Thank you for your thoughts. That can be true, of course. I can’t always be a good judge of who’s closed minded, so I speak towards their open minded potential
I'm sending positive
that's because the mental health field Denys narcissism. she is not coping. she is in the middle of empathy and narcissistic tendencies.
I find Teal Swan very brave.
Envy and victimization is so, so clear for anyone with minimum emotional intelligence here.. so sad that teal has to endure this defamation…
it’s not defamation if we’re pointing out what she actually said and the discredited and dangerous methods she actually uses
While distorting everything and putting it out of context to make it look like she’s evil..
@@michellemendes3218 pointing out problematic words and behaviors isn’t making her out to be evil. a person can be acting in good faith and still cause harm to others.
people say the same things when we point out how the mormon church unwittingly perpetuates harmful behavior 🤷♀️
I see people blasting these gurus and then defer their intellectual authority to youtubers making videos about the topic lol
Bingo
#releasethefootage
Yeah, definitely some doctoring of footage as with most documentaries! Unfortunate.
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