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    Toyota GR Yaris 1.6 MT GR FOUR (2021)
    vs
    Ford Focus RS 2.3 EcoBoost MT AWD (2017)
    #duszaniespokojna #gryaris #focusrs
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  • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
    @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +6

    Detailed explanation of Toyota GR Yaris awd system: czcams.com/video/PvXuryayDn4/video.html
    How TORSEN works: czcams.com/video/UlnGG4frZ68/video.html

  • @samin2173
    @samin2173 Před 3 lety +62

    You know they are more than capable when the wheel not on rollers spins on dry asphalt.

    • @Jehco14
      @Jehco14 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah and that would be better to put all wheels on roller but to lock those who should provide grip. The problem is that it just leaves marginal load on the wheel touching the ground, preventing it from moving the car alone. With all wheels on rollers, at least the wheel loads are the same and you really see if one wheel alone can move the car forward.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +6

      @@Jehco14 Wheels on rollers are 30-35 mm above the payment.

    • @Jehco14
      @Jehco14 Před 3 lety +2

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers So for a 40 N/mm (front wheel rate for the focus), assuming the car would be fully horizontal at the roller level (which it isn't obviously), that's about 1400 N load deficit on the tyre, which is a significant part of the corner load. I think with the normal wheel load when the car is on a flat ground, any wheel should be able to drive the car forward (assuming the differential is sending sufficient torque).

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +3

      @@Jehco14 I'm not familiar with these numbers but the problem that we see in this video (unloaded wheels slipping) is rather rare in these tests. It usually concerns sport cars with stiff chasis/suspension or cars with bald tyres. All in all - any wheel should be able to drive the car forward, assuming the differential is sending sufficient torque - and that is the point, not every diff/awd system does that.

    • @lexuslfa4739
      @lexuslfa4739 Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers maybe lower the tire pressures a bit

  • @Martinez11033
    @Martinez11033 Před 3 lety +32

    Nie znam drugiego takiego kanału, który by tak dokładnie testował te systemy

  • @redacted5052
    @redacted5052 Před 3 lety +3

    These vids are always getting better. Nice work

  • @Mistio.
    @Mistio. Před 3 lety +41

    Good clip as always ! The 4WD on the Ford worked as expected. When I bought my RS for XMAS in 2017 and I went up a road covered in ice and snow, I saw what the car was capable of. I had people spin out in front of me while the RS was planted and worked overtime.
    PS. The front nose of the vehicle also acted as a plough 😂.

  • @toninocars
    @toninocars Před 2 lety +8

    Both cars did well, perhaps better than some suv

  • @lefterisstavropoulos1332
    @lefterisstavropoulos1332 Před 3 lety +3

    Very interesting test! Excellent video!

  • @hxdrift7000
    @hxdrift7000 Před 2 lety +2

    You can try applying the brake and throttle together when you were stucked on the roller, like the GR Yaris in the video. Because that would give the LSD a "preload" force to enable it to send more torque to the better gripped tyre. But this trick is only useful on mechanically torque-sensitive differential, like Torsen or Clutch-based LSD. For cars with open differential that may not work.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 2 lety +5

      That's not the point of the test, we are checking if system is able to do that by itself. We tried the trick a few times, including the car with torsen differential, it didn't help.

  • @youzywx
    @youzywx Před 3 lety +2

    Awesome videos! Hope you could do 2015+ WRX Vs WRX STI!

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks! I also hope for WRXs 🙂

    • @Trades46
      @Trades46 Před 3 lety +1

      +1. The WRX STI has a very trick AWD system unlike anything in Subaru's lineup. It would be interesting to see.

  • @CanadaLuke
    @CanadaLuke Před 3 lety +33

    Great video! Kinda surprised the Yaris had so much trouble with the 1 front 2 rear on roller test. I thought that torsen diff in the front would've worked better. Somehow the focus' open diff with brake modulation was better, lol.

    • @cmdrratzass7305
      @cmdrratzass7305 Před 3 lety +21

      Well, almost zero torque at the spinning wheel multiplied by some factor is still pretty much zero.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +5

      @@cmdrratzass7305 Two torsens are enough to move the car forward. One is not enough but that's not the point 🙂

    • @DengMam
      @DengMam Před 3 lety

      @@cmdrratzass7305 The torsen don't work on the principle of having more torque on one side. It works on the basis of preventing one wheel to spin to fast in relation of the other wheel.
      czcams.com/video/JEiSTzK-A2A/video.html

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +3

      @@DengMam It is working on the principle of having more torque on side. There's a mistake in the video you linked, explained in the most popular comment - torsen never locks: czcams.com/video/UlnGG4frZ68/video.html

    • @30hours51
      @30hours51 Před 9 měsíci +3

      torsen diff dont work when one tire has absolute zero traction, for example, when one of the tire is lifted off the ground

  • @marcinobodzinski52
    @marcinobodzinski52 Před 3 lety +1

    Jak zwykle good job

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety

      A jak tam rozbita rzeczywistość? 😉 Akurat GR Yaris wygląda na jednego z tych, gdzie ESP OFF = TC OFF.

    • @marcinobodzinski52
      @marcinobodzinski52 Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers nie wiem czy to gadka na publiczną rozmowę. 😜
      Dziś jeździłem autem gdzie przyciskiem wyłącza się kontrolę trakcji. Hyundaie chyba wszystkie tak mają. Z jednej strony nadal bym polemizował, z drugiej nie jestem osobą tak zawziętą, że pomijam to co widzę i czytam bo mi nie pasuje. Więc.... no temat na dłuższą dyskusję. Może kiedyś się spotkamy 😉

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +1

      @@marcinobodzinski52 Nie miałem okazji testować, ale wg instrukcji - dokładnie tak mają Hyundaie 🙂
      Spotkać się można, potestować samochody albo alkohole, whatever, Twoje zdrowie! 🥃

  • @midnighthoon788
    @midnighthoon788 Před 3 lety +5

    looking forward for a test with the Corolla GR that is in the works as we speak!

    • @f00lxpl
      @f00lxpl Před 3 lety +1

      won't happen. GR Corolla will bypass Europe

    • @midnighthoon788
      @midnighthoon788 Před 3 lety

      @@f00lxpl that is sooo sad!

    • @f00lxpl
      @f00lxpl Před 3 lety +1

      @@midnighthoon788 it is...

    • @homiefizzle5260
      @homiefizzle5260 Před 3 lety +6

      It's the same AWD system anyways, it will most likely be very similar in performance

    • @9unslin9er
      @9unslin9er Před rokem

      The GR Corolla sucks dude...

  • @saimadhav9898
    @saimadhav9898 Před 3 lety +1

    Great Video! And some weight on the Focus' back would've helped it 😂 like sitting in it??
    Btw what's '2' in Torsen B (2,3:1) ??

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +2

      Some weight, better tyre or no paint under rear wheel (white line) would be helpful 😉
      TBR - Torque Bias Ratio - 2.3:1

  • @akhmadsulaimanprawira8546

    I'd like to see the new golf R vs A45s both with drift mode

  • @marcoling2173
    @marcoling2173 Před 3 lety +4

    I've been wondering this since the last video with the focus, is this focus RS stock? The rake is far higher than stock, seems to me that the front end sits way lower than stock, or the back end sits higher, which may explain why the rear wheel was getting almost no grip when the other side is raised.
    The wheels and tires are also a big part and those are definitely not stock, seems to be winter tires, in winter as you can see from the snow piles in the background. The yaris was tested in either spring or summer as you can tell from the plants in the background, with most likely summer tires.
    I'd be curious to see how a stock focus would perform, since this one was struggling with grip issues and that doesn't mean it's unable to send enough power to that rear wheel to break itself free.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +1

      This Focus is stock, still under warranty. It had winter tyres during the test, rather worn out. And it was standing at the white paint (line).

    • @marcoling2173
      @marcoling2173 Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers interesting, that would explain why it was not getting enough traction. The suspension still looks kinda off though, maybe it's just the lighting condition, but if not then the owner might want to have it checked out.

    • @f00lxpl
      @f00lxpl Před 3 lety +2

      @@marcoling2173 Focus height looks 100% stock to me

  • @NDSno1
    @NDSno1 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great video. As the Yaris was advertised as a rally inspired car and having 2 front and rear diff, I'm suprised to see it struggle with the front having no grip and the rear having grip on 1 wheel. The front of the RS is only an open diff but it seems ok when only one front wheel has grip.
    And also you guys did the explanation of Yaris AWD, can you do one for the RS AWD as well?

  • @chucka187
    @chucka187 Před 2 lety +1

    Not sure if it was mentioned but it would have been a better outcome for the RS if you used one with a lsd. I think you mentioned this one didn’t. My 2018 LE came with one from the factory.

  • @midnighthoon788
    @midnighthoon788 Před 3 lety +10

    would like to see a test Yaris vs Impreza

    • @alexandreblondeau2153
      @alexandreblondeau2153 Před 3 lety +1

      you can't beat an AWD god

    • @lecoureurdesbois86
      @lecoureurdesbois86 Před 3 lety

      @@alexandreblondeau2153 Reste que Toyota on fait une méchante belle job avec leur nouveau système AWD pour la GR Yaris

    • @alexandreblondeau2153
      @alexandreblondeau2153 Před 3 lety +1

      @@lecoureurdesbois86 c'est sur dommage que subaru ait pas ajouter son grain de sel pour le AWD la on aurait eu une bête féroce

    • @lecoureurdesbois86
      @lecoureurdesbois86 Před 3 lety

      @@alexandreblondeau2153 J'suis pas mal dans leurs rumeurs, et ils sont en train de travailler sur quelque chose à ce qui paraît, en attendant j'aimerais bien une comparaison du AWD Toyota vs AWD Subaru! Peut-être même que l'on verra quelque chose avec la GR Corolla qui arrive bien vite

  • @rotorblade9508
    @rotorblade9508 Před 3 lety +1

    More grip on the front axle which is what is needed since the cars have more weight on the front

  • @51KTM51Hurricane
    @51KTM51Hurricane Před 3 lety +1

    thank you like always
    and I can't wait for my gr but it was a bit disappointing how he handled your test

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +7

      There's nothing to be disappointed - considering the fact that GR Yaris has performance awd system, it performed very very well.

    • @51KTM51Hurricane
      @51KTM51Hurricane Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers hmmm
      okay if you say that then I'm happy.
      Hehe I'm coming from the off-road section and when I lock everything locks and there is no spin at all.
      But I thought the fords system was a bit better programmed.
      Anyway I'm still very happy with the gr should here soon. The test drive last Winter here in switzerland was awesome

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +3

      @@51KTM51Hurricane Fords system is very well programmed, it was just missing grip 🙂

    • @rustler08
      @rustler08 Před 3 lety +2

      You don't buy an AWD performance car for offroad capabilities.

    • @pablomoreno1999
      @pablomoreno1999 Před 3 lety

      Remember though, that showed a situation with 3 wheels with zero grip, thats almost impossible in real life, plus you get a 261hp manual yaris which is pretty damn sick :D

  • @skkserkan
    @skkserkan Před 3 lety +3

    Still looks like they performed better than alot of SUV’s.

    • @user-yq1pw6ew4o
      @user-yq1pw6ew4o Před 3 lety

      because they are much lighter than any other huldex coupling type SUVs....

    • @lexuslfa4739
      @lexuslfa4739 Před 3 lety +2

      @@user-yq1pw6ew4o nope, because the ford has clutch packs on each individual rear wheel and because the yaris can over drive the rear axle, effectively they can act as either rear biased or front biased cars based on the situation, while most Csuvs are front biased predominantly, thus will struggle with a rear wheel on thee ground

  • @FordsRule351
    @FordsRule351 Před 7 měsíci +1

    18 RS has a limited slip front diff. But of course we have to use data from a 16-17 car.

  • @Harka666
    @Harka666 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video! I was also surprised to see the strugle of the Yaris with 1 wheel traction only. I am very curious how will the drivetrain of the 2007-2020 STIs compare to these two? What do you think @4x4 tests on rollers - duszaniespokojna channel?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety

      Thanks! STI has very different awd system - there is center differential. I hope some day I'll find one for the test 🙂

    • @octaviangeorge5455
      @octaviangeorge5455 Před 3 lety +1

      STI awd is way better. Simple because is a true permanet awd. And not a fake one.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +14

      @@octaviangeorge5455 What is fake in GR Yaris and Focus RS?

    • @octaviangeorge5455
      @octaviangeorge5455 Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers gr have a clutch based awd, similar with the haldex. So it will not have a natural/instinctive/mechanical/predictable/etc feel and it will worn out in time. It will hit good numbers on track, dont get me wrong. But it will never feel fun and durable like an STI.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +8

      @@octaviangeorge5455 In such case majority of Subaru cars (non-sport) should be considered as fake awd to, right? And Nissan GTR to. But times changed, clutch based awd systems are amazing nowadays, especially when gearing trickery is used so car can be set to fwd, neutral or rwd characteristic.

  • @Neutrino33
    @Neutrino33 Před 3 lety +2

    Po torsenach w Yarisie spodziewałem się trochę więcej...poza tym napędy zdawały się gorzej radzić sobie z brakiem przyczepności im bardziej zaawansowany był program (na Track Expert bardzo późno załączały)

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety

      Track Expert (jak i ESP off) to całkowite odłączenie elektroniki hamującej koła (dotyczy tylko Yarisa), zatem wtedy właśnie możemy zobaczyć pracę torsenów. Dwa razem dają radę, natomiast jeden to za mało.

    • @krys8870
      @krys8870 Před 3 lety +5

      Torseny działają tu dokładnie tak, jak powinny. Dwa bez elektroniki dają radę tylko dlatego, że rolki dają jakiś minimalny opór. Gdyby dwa koła były całkiem w powietrzu, Yaris by nie ruszył bez lekkiej ingerencji ESP. Do jazdy wyczynowej, gdzie całkowity brak trakcji dwóch kół raczej nie występuje, to rozwiązanie super się sprawdza, wyciskając cenne sekundy na krętym torze. Dodatkowo, przy otwartych dyfrach, hamulce muszą dość mocno dohamowywać koła, zaś przy torsenie wystarczy lżejsza ingerencja.

  • @trader2473
    @trader2473 Před 2 lety

    Please do the Golf 8 R with performance pack! Would be interesting to see that new AWD system on test!

  • @DanielDaniel1
    @DanielDaniel1 Před 3 lety +2

    So much want for the yaris

  • @robertoalmeida2808
    @robertoalmeida2808 Před 3 lety

    Greetings from Ecuador.

  • @Jalmari1
    @Jalmari1 Před 2 lety +3

    I think using track mode would be more interesting than drift mode. Because drift mode is designed to lose grip 😅🤔

  • @stefanoricci94able
    @stefanoricci94able Před 3 lety +1

    Still....they are doing better than my e53 X5...

  • @gbass7328
    @gbass7328 Před 3 lety +7

    You need to use a 2018 RS it has a mech front LSD.

    • @f00lxpl
      @f00lxpl Před 3 lety +2

      not every one, only the editions.

    • @TANKSINATRA289
      @TANKSINATRA289 Před rokem

      ​@@f00lxplthere Is a special version? Could you tell me please ?

    • @f00lxpl
      @f00lxpl Před rokem +2

      @@TANKSINATRA289 towards the end of RS production cycle there were blue edition, red edition and heritage. They were all equipped with front LSD unlike normal RS that only had clutch pack on the rear.

  • @kotelypiesely1268
    @kotelypiesely1268 Před 3 lety

    0:18 Doesn't the Yaris use GT-FOUR, which has twin diffs on front axle, one acting as the central, the other as axle? It's been like that on the Celicas and a Corolla, and it was briliant, a full-time AWD in a transverse-engined car, did they change it? I was obsessing over it, if its not full time, this ruins the car for me :(

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +1

      Nope, no center diff, here's detailed explanation of GR Yaris awd system: czcams.com/video/PvXuryayDn4/video.html

    • @kotelypiesely1268
      @kotelypiesely1268 Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers THE OLD GT-FOURS HAD ONE WHY CHANGE IT TOYOTA WHYYYY

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +3

      @@kotelypiesely1268 Why not? It is full time awd which you can switch from fwd characteristic through neutral characteristic to rwd characteristic.

  • @haroldbeauchamp3770
    @haroldbeauchamp3770 Před 3 lety +2

    These small cars are very obscure and not very popular in the United States. Makes for interesting viewing!

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +2

      They are designed for tough fun 😉

    • @fernandogomez3030
      @fernandogomez3030 Před 3 lety +1

      These kind of videos are made for countries that do have them, although there were a little over 10k focus RS’s made for North American. Love my 2017 RS in nitrous blue.

  • @ralphw19
    @ralphw19 Před 2 lety

    I am confused. If there is no electronic assistance in expert mode or esc off mode, how can gr Yaris pass the test with one front wheel and one rear wheel on the roller under these two modes? Shouldn’t the Torsen only act like an open diff since there is 0 resistance force for the wheels on the rollers?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 2 lety +1

      There is never zero resistance. Even a wheel in the air needs quite a lot of Nm to spin. In this case two torsen diffs working together gives enough torque to the wheels with grip. Here's how torsen works in comparison with an open diff: czcams.com/video/UlnGG4frZ68/video.html

    • @ralphw19
      @ralphw19 Před 2 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers so theoretically speaking, if there is only one front wheel on the ground and the Yaris is in expert mode, increasing the other front wheel’s weight can increase the odds of passing the test? and using a torsen with higher tbr will also increase the odds of passing the test?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 2 lety

      @@ralphw19 There must be an increase of weight on the slipping wheel, not on the other side. Higher TBR would help a lot but then handling/cornering would be much worse.

    • @ralphw19
      @ralphw19 Před 2 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yeah, by “the other front wheel” I mean the slipping front wheel. Thanks a lot!

  • @I_____S
    @I_____S Před 3 lety +1

    I don't understand why toyota with 3 wheels on rollers is stucking without ESP when it have torsens rear and front?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety

      Torsen ain't a locker. When three wheels are on rollers - one torsen is not enough to send enough torque to the wheel with grip. Here's simple explanation how torsen works: czcams.com/video/UlnGG4frZ68/video.html

    • @zachbrandt1236
      @zachbrandt1236 Před 3 lety +1

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Word, best way for people to think about it is that torsens are street diffs. If one wheel looses grip it won't spin the other, like if a tire is in the air or on a patch of ice, (or on rollers) which doesn't happen often on pavement. If a 4x4 or off road vehicle has an LSD it will be either a clutch/plate diff or manually lockable diff because those diffs do lock together. When driving off road you'll be in many situations where one tire might be off the ground, or stuck spinning in sand or mud, there you really need something that locks.
      BTW, love what you do here on this channel. It would be cool to see you do a torsen vs plate diff test, might be hard to find two cars to compare though.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +1

      @@zachbrandt1236 Thanks. I will think about some compilation showing torsen vs plate diff, maybe some Audi vs Subaru. The problem will be TC/EDL which usually cannot be totally disengaged. And when it comes to torsen - two torsen diffs (TBR 2.3:1) in GR Yaris are able to move the car forward in side and diagonal tests.

    • @zachbrandt1236
      @zachbrandt1236 Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yes, it's a very tough test to find the optimal conditions for. You would almost need to find someone with a 2WD that was replacing their torsen for a plate diff. The EVO X vs Ralliart test you did showed the benefit of a plate, but that was over the computer controlled EVO diff.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +1

      @@zachbrandt1236 Speaking bout the Evo - the one from the test is equipped with rear plate diff now instead of original overspeeding one, soon we will compare the performance 🙂

  • @piotrmarciniak
    @piotrmarciniak Před 3 lety +1

    Chciałbym zauważyć, ze asfalt jest bardziej przyczepny od kostki brukowej. Jeśli już robicie takie testy to warto by było zrobić w tym samym miejscu. Często się widzi w sieci filmy porównujące napędy 4wd np na śniegu i nikt nie zadaje pytania czy auta maja takie same zimówki. Zdarza się czesto, ze jeden wskazany faworyt jest na zimowkach, a reszta nie.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety

      Testy robione są w różnych miastach, nie ma możliwości testowania w tym samym miejscu. Nie ma to wielkiego znaczenia, bo jeśli samochód kręci kołem z przyczepnością, to układ awd spełnia swoje zadanie.

    • @piotrmarciniak
      @piotrmarciniak Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers W przypadku gdy trzy koła są na rolce a czwarte szuka przyczepności to chyba raczej ma znaczenie.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety

      @@piotrmarciniak Mówiąc o kole z przyczepnością miałem na myśli koło, które nie jest na rolce.

  • @gbass7328
    @gbass7328 Před 3 lety +9

    You also have to disconnect the sway bars so that the full weight of each corner can reach the ground.

    • @mantasv6208
      @mantasv6208 Před 3 lety +5

      I doubt thats an useful test, you won't be doing that to unstuck yourself in the middle of somewhere.

    • @gbass7328
      @gbass7328 Před 3 lety +3

      @@mantasv6208 It's a common non-real world, worse case test of the car's AWD system.

  • @Liris777
    @Liris777 Před 3 lety +2

    I guess passed for both.

  • @CosineHyperbolic
    @CosineHyperbolic Před 3 lety

    No STI on the channel??
    We need to see it!

  • @user-mz3wq8hm6b
    @user-mz3wq8hm6b Před 4 měsíci +1

    szkoda ze przy ostatnim tescie z tylnym kolem Focus stal na polbruku z biala linia a nie na asfalcie tak jak Yaris. Ciekawe czy by ruszyl?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 4 měsíci

      Szkoda, nie zauważyliśmy tego podczas testu. Na pewno by ruszył 👍

  • @carwynthomas5836
    @carwynthomas5836 Před 3 lety

    is the Yaris GR the Track pack one that comes with the LSD diffs?

  • @alexandreblondeau2153
    @alexandreblondeau2153 Před 3 lety +1

    the guy in wrx sti : err peasant

  • @LuuiissPeeddrroo
    @LuuiissPeeddrroo Před rokem

    very well but you're comparing tarmac road on the yaris with concrete paver blocks on the focus...

  • @gteturbosupramk3
    @gteturbosupramk3 Před 2 lety

    What is the name of the roller device?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 2 lety

      A roller 🙂

    • @gteturbosupramk3
      @gteturbosupramk3 Před 2 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers lol, what term can I websearch on? Or what company sells them?
      When I search on Automotive and roller it comes up with items to help you slide a car around a shop or building. Not something that sits flat on a parking lot and has rollers that point upward 🤷

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 2 lety

      @@gteturbosupramk3 Unfortunately I don't know who sells them, I made mine by myself. A few years ago I saw them as free spinning roller, about 700 Euro for one pcs.

  • @mindyourownbastardbu
    @mindyourownbastardbu Před 2 lety +1

    Still nothing to beat my STI. 😕 I was really rooting for the Yaris but it's just not quite there. I drive it with WinterContacts in the winter and PS4Ss in the rest of the year. Have passed Audis reversing back down a snow covered hill 😁

    • @9unslin9er
      @9unslin9er Před rokem +1

      You passed an Audi? 👏👏👏

  • @dimitu_
    @dimitu_ Před 3 lety +1

    With off road tires Focus would've made the try with 1 free rear wheel ))

  • @remicote3783
    @remicote3783 Před 3 lety +1

    Why use the drift mode ?? Use the sport mode it will be even better. My 2018 rs have a front torsen diff best of both world 😁

  • @magabrysiak
    @magabrysiak Před 3 lety +3

    Sh-awd!!! Proszę o test! Mam dość Quattro

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +1

      Póki co nie znalazł się nikt chętny z SH-AWD...

    • @magabrysiak
      @magabrysiak Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers chyba kupię, żeby przetestować 😝

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +1

      @@magabrysiak Bardzo dobry pomysł 😎

    • @tahsin28
      @tahsin28 Před 3 lety +1

      yes sh-awd vs h-trac.

    • @muddyPL
      @muddyPL Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Jeżeli bywacie przejazdem w Rzeszowie, mogę pomóc zorganizować Legenda.

  • @gbass7328
    @gbass7328 Před rokem

    The '18 RS has a Quaife LSD not an open diff.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před rokem

      Optional or standard? The one from the test is 2017.

    • @gbass7328
      @gbass7328 Před rokem +2

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Standard front lsd. Best to get a 2018 and go from there.

  • @christopherbassit2757
    @christopherbassit2757 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Gr all day!

  • @MT-eb2dx
    @MT-eb2dx Před 3 lety

    Why did the GR Yaris only struggle with one wheel when it was in expert or all of mode?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety

      No help from electronics then.

    • @MT-eb2dx
      @MT-eb2dx Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers strange that it would need it ?! Must be something about the torsen diffs?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +1

      @@MT-eb2dx It would be strange if it wouldn't need it. Torsen diff itself is not able to overcome such situation, it needs help from braking system.

    • @James-RJM
      @James-RJM Před 3 lety +1

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Hi. My understanding, from numerous reviewers around the world, is that the GR Yaris' esc is very competent but, arguably, a little intrusive with regards to the 2 torsen lsd's in the circuit pack.
      It's only when esc is in expert mode or fully off that the reactive torsen lsd's activate, and when they do, you can hear an initial wheelslip first, likely due to their 2,3:1 tbr.
      That explains why esc intervenes first unless it's disabled!

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety

      @@James-RJM I'm not sure what you mean. Torsens work all the time, accelerating, decelerating, cornering. On throttle, ESC intervention increases torsen operation.

  • @danielebianchini7584
    @danielebianchini7584 Před rokem

    I'm really surprised about yaris trouble! She has limited slip diff....

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před rokem

      What trouble?

    • @danielebianchini7584
      @danielebianchini7584 Před rokem

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers focus was really better....

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před rokem

      @@danielebianchini7584 Focus has torque vectoring unit at the back, each wheel is powered separately, no differential.

    • @danielebianchini7584
      @danielebianchini7584 Před rokem

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yes I know. But with limited slip differential I thought Yaris more brilliant

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před rokem +1

      @@danielebianchini7584 Actually there are torsen diffs in Yaris, they cannot be effective when grip difference is too big.

  • @DengMam
    @DengMam Před 3 lety

    Do you know what happened around 5:57? The Torsen diff should have locked. It looks like it is broken or not the Yaris with the high performance pack...

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety

      Torsen never locks. This is how it works: czcams.com/video/UlnGG4frZ68/video.html

  • @endlosz
    @endlosz Před 3 lety +1

    6:33 nem a meghajtáson múlott, hanem a gumi tapadásán.

    • @zsoltmolnar8845
      @zsoltmolnar8845 Před 3 lety

      Nem tudom hogy igazad van e de erre szép nyelvre adok egy likeot😅

    • @endlosz
      @endlosz Před 3 lety

      @@zsoltmolnar8845 valamit elírtam?

    • @zsoltmolnar8845
      @zsoltmolnar8845 Před 3 lety +1

      @@endlosz nem dehogy, csak találtam egy magyar hozzászólást és ezért

  • @Adrianperformancequattro

    Nie podobają mi się szarpania przy ruszaniu to powoduje, że auto ma szansę wyjechać, puszczenie sprzęgła powinno być delikatne.

  • @jakubek89
    @jakubek89 Před 3 lety

    4:20 5:50 6:08 dlaczego taki fail?
    6:20 sztywne zawieszenie i nadwozie i koło unosi się nad ziemią, to wiadomo że nie popchnie

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety

      GR Yaris - zarówno tryb Expert, jak i ESP off wyłączają całkowicie elektronikę (interwencję układu hamulcowego).
      Focus RS - układ awd zrobił działa świetnie, zabrakło tylko przyczepności.

    • @jakubek89
      @jakubek89 Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers że Yaris i cię za mało mocy na to jedno koło co ma przyczepność tylko dlaczego Skoro są tam 2 dyfry

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety

      @@jakubek89 Nie bardzo rozumiem, o co pytasz. Yaris ma dwa torseny. Dwa razem wyciągną auto bez pomocy elektroniki (test boczny i po przekątnej). Jeden nie wyciągnie auta kiedy trzy koła nie mają przyczepności.

    • @jakubek89
      @jakubek89 Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers nie znam sie, myślałem że najlepiej jak nawet na 1 kole zjedzie

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety

      @@jakubek89 Zjedzie, ale elektronika musi być włączona.

  • @SarcasticComments23
    @SarcasticComments23 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Ford for the win 🤟🏼

  • @kelvinbravo3650
    @kelvinbravo3650 Před 3 lety

    GR Yaris sin pensarlo 😎

  • @petergazarek4238
    @petergazarek4238 Před 3 lety +1

    TOYOTA 😎👍

  • @DinosaurJuiceCars
    @DinosaurJuiceCars Před 3 lety +1

    I don't think that gr has the LSD! It definitely didn't work if it does have one.

  • @lorenzoo213
    @lorenzoo213 Před 3 lety

    that ford underweight at the rear

  • @roskataqv
    @roskataqv Před 3 lety +3

    Focus has a very stiff chassis, which is why it failed the last test.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +7

      It didn't fail, it was just missing grip.

    • @isleofauto
      @isleofauto Před 3 lety

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers do you mean it's weight distribution is to the front, so the rear couldn't get big enough normal force on the tire that is on the ground?

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před 3 lety +1

      @@isleofauto Main problem were tyres and white paint (line) under rear wheel. But more normal force (like passenger at the back) would also help.

    • @roskataqv
      @roskataqv Před 2 lety +2

      @@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yeah true it couldn't put enough weight on the tyre because the chassis wasn't flexing.

  • @m80116
    @m80116 Před 3 lety +5

    The Focus looks well programmed but I am amazed by the composure and elegance of the Yaris GR.
    I just wish Toyota had made its own Supra rather than handing the task to BMW.

  • @noobwow2009
    @noobwow2009 Před 3 lety

    Bring that to Lexus and RAV4. Those suckass AWD system is a crime

  • @glock18supercharger
    @glock18supercharger Před 3 lety +1

    3:06
    Poor ST
    😂

  • @lauriedooker1031
    @lauriedooker1031 Před 2 lety +1

    So the Ford was best ? Still buying a gr ? I don’t know , needed commentary . Somebody say something! I understand but , that was hard work.

  • @landedarc4991
    @landedarc4991 Před 3 lety +1

    Ford

  • @revmatchproductions
    @revmatchproductions Před 3 lety

    Where is the new Golf R? Or should i say the new hot hatch king?

  • @user-yq1pw6ew4o
    @user-yq1pw6ew4o Před 3 lety

    Both cars 4wd system has enough capability to clear this kind of trial, but Focus has much better coupling system.
    But in the situation of threee wheels lost traction like that, the weight is much more important, that's why Yaris showed bit better performance at that test....

  • @ThatGuyJess3
    @ThatGuyJess3 Před rokem

    Hear me out have you tried not doing a full send instead of just slowly engaging food for thought lol

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers  Před rokem

      If you mean slow accelerating instead of full throttle - that's exactly what we do. We didn't try full throttle.