Stadtbahn Stuttgart | Light rail in Germany | SSB
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- čas přidán 20. 11. 2021
- Stadtbahn Stuttgart | Light rail in Germany | SSB
The stadtbahn system of Stuttgart in Germany
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I really love the Stuttgart Stadtbahn system. Especially the stations, that are all really unique. Also the system is being continously expanded.
U15 U5 U2 U8 U4 U6 S123 U7 U13 S1 UB
Very nice video. The last time I did visit Stuttgart (about 20 years ago) they had still a few narrowtrack, 1000mm, tramlines in service on which the famous GT4 trams were running. At first the SSB had planned to convert the most important lines from the network only to 1435mm track and abandon all other tramlines in favour of buses. But the huge succes of the first converted lines did change that. In a period of 35 years the entire network is converted (line after line, so mixed exploitation with U-Bahn trains and trams over the same long period of time) and even more: the now existing network is larger than the former tramnetwork. So they must do something right in Stuttgart.
Well the tram network was much much larger than the Stadtbahn network today. The tram network was massively reduced during the 60s in favour of cars, then transformed from 1985 to 2007, then expanded of a few lines in the last decades.
This system is also great in showing the world that raising platforms instead of lowering vehicles is an actual solution for users- and city-friendly urban rail and with many advantages.
Low floor is so much treated as a religion that we often forget the heavy compromises it requires.
Surely, building high platforms works fine on a separate right-of-way and is easy, maybe even preferable. But: as soon on-street running is involved (and Stuttgart still has quite some share of it), the compromises that need to be achieved to incorporate high platforms into urban landscape aren’t trivial. Both ways of doing it have their advantages and disadvantages that need to be considered on a case-to-case basis.
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From minute 34 to 35 you can see why this is also called the "Swabian" or "German" San Francisco.
And I thought Wuppertal had that reputation.
I have been watching Stuttgart Hbf and it's one of Germany's most dynamic construction sites. On Sunday 18 July 2021 I visited Stuttgart Hbf to change trains. There was little time to watch the construction there, as my train to Ulm was due to depart at 11:59 AM. I was able to see some of the "Kelchsteinstützen". The Hbf is supposed to be completed by 2025.
As for the Stuttgart Stadtbahn, there is currently no through service directly from Hbf to Staatsgalerie, particularly the outer northbound track, as there are a few parts to Hbf that need to be completed beforehand. The extra rail to the left side is nonelectrified and is present for the sake of the GT4 trams that use meter gauge. These are still needed, as the GT4 has periodically scheduled service (Sundays). The lower platforms are used where the GT4s are scheduled to make stops.
On a personal note, I plan to be back in Stuttgart this February, partially to observe the interim construction progress of Hbf and the S-Bahn and to see Staatsgalerie to see how things have been progressing.
How did you like the Ulm Train Station? lol
@@jonas1630 The only weekend I remember being actually inside the Ulm Hbf station was 2nd and 3rd August 1997. It was interesting inside, but I think since then it has changed, particularly for Stuttgart 21. The only other times I have been were to just go through. The last time I experienced a change of locomotive at Ulm Hbf was Sunday the 18th July 2021, about 2 PM. I was going to Friedrichshafen Stadt at the time, and the DB catenaries were live but with no electric trains using them until this last December.
@@amiausUSA It's probably amongst the ugliest train stations in Germany haha...I live near Ulm and I have to go there every once in a while
So did you observe something special on the construction site? As far as I know, the "Kelchstützen" have been completely built an the roof of the station will be closed quite soon.
I really love the DT 8 vehicles. They look so friendly, approachable and yet sleek and sharp - greatly designed vehicles they are!
for real, they just have something that makes them look so good
@34:08 In February 2007 when I visited Stuttgart, I stayed at the Jugendherberge at Eugensplatz. The station you see now, was not yet in existence, the platforms were still under construction at the time. Prior to that, the "station" was more of a line 15 tram stop just a little past this, towards Charlottenplatz, and passengers were expected to climb up the GT4 steps from street level. In my previous visit in July/August 2003, I also stayed at the same Jugendherberge and never thought back then, that Eugensplatz or anywhere on line 15 would ever be converted to Stadtbahn specifications.
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Nice video with good balanced views of underground/surface sections and different rolling stock DT8 types. Personnally I find the rolling stock trains with high-floor and a length of almost 39 meters too large for surface services. They look odd as you expect more tram-like trains like in Hannover or Köln on the surface. In Rotterdam I had the same feeling with the surface sections and level crossings of the metro. The trains are too large for the surface to comfortable fit in.
Frankfurts Stadtbahn (LRT) uses 100m trains on some lines
@@david_2609 Correct for coupled trains. But the Stuttgart stadbahn 2-car unit is 39 metres long, while the Frankfurt Stadtbah (short) unit of 2 cars is only 25 metres. With a turning radius of 50 metres these Stuttgart stadbahn units must be difficult to use on street level ....
@@TheMexxodus Wow, ok, that could be quite difficult. :D
Ok, what should be "odd" here ? These DT8 LRV's are - in my opinion - the best, what you can find in Europe as LRV's. You know, as in the early 70ies Stuttgart planned a full Metro system, the new Train design was more or less fully developed, and as it came to the decision for a LRV System in 1976 (thank God) - the design was adopted accordingly. Yes, these DT8 LRV's have the same dimension as a full Metro trains (depending on the City), but the result of these nice and powerfull DT8 types in combination with the excellent route system, brings nearly the same comfort as a full Metro System (especially on the Cross Valley lines), but for a lesser cost price.
The full system was not cheap - definitely not. But after nearly 60 years of construction of the network, network length reaches >135 km in December 2021 (with U6 extension to the Airport). For a City with < 1 Mio residents, this is quite impressive. So - compared with other rolling stock (Düsseldorf / Duisburg / Bochum / Köln-Bonn / Dortmund / Hannover / Bielefeld), DT8 LRV's are really TOP - class.
And - by the way - there are really not many sections on street level - I don't see an issue here, that the trains are too large !
Greetings from Freising.
@@Stadtbahnklaus Der ist neidisch auf unsere Stadtbahn
Goede dag ! So, thank you for your effort, you put into this video ! I am really happy, that you catched all full-metro-like stations here - except the 3 in Fasanenhof - which was not possible due to construction work on the south branch at that time. And, you choosed very good perspectives. Perhaps, it would be good, to work with camara instead of mobile phone, so the zoom would be a little bit calmer. But overall TOP ! I looked it 3 times already 😀
Greetings from Freising.
38:48 leuk met die spiegelmuur rechts. Als of de Stadtbahn dubbel naast elkaar vertrekt.
I like your video about stuggart u bahn en like how jou filmed
When kan jou film of hannover u bahn
Can you film gent and bruxelles trams next month of next year
Ganz selten dass man mal den Namen einer Haltestelle entziffern kann ! Das tut richtig weh wenn man vor 35 Jahren in Stuttgart gewohnt hat u. gern wissen wuerde wie sich alles veraendert hat .
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er wordt in de video wel veel genipt en in en uitgezoomd wel jammer
Sorry, das rein und rauszoomen ist fürchterlich......🤪🤪🤪 sonst wäre es ein gutes Video.