Mini Excavator vs Skid steer
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- As a first piece of equipment where should a guy invest his money? In a Mini excavator or a skid loader. We put them toe to toe doing 3 common tasks to see how they perform against each other.
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no comparison...they each can do what the other can't...mini ex cab dig staright down...skid can level dirt/sand/gravel etc. more efficiently...my opinion is they make an awesome team
Paul Gilbert you can get a pretty decent backhoe attachment for a skidsteer still can't go as big as a mini but if you only could get a skidsteer that attachment is better than nothing.
@@SKC640 cool ty for the info
More efficient depending on situation. Grading can be faster with a mini ex and ditch bucket I some scenarios
The skidsteer can't dig trenches as precisely and is not designed for digging trenches
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I started with a shovel and bad sunburn.
Same
Only a shovel for me though
Yup
Same
Same
TRACTOR LOADER BACKHOE for me, in Minnesota it’s a year round tool.
I’ve got a KUBOTA BX23S and it mows grass, digs trenches, grades driveways, cuts brush, grapples fire wood and snowblows and plows. One machine does it all. I love it!!!
Great video! I like to see machines work.
Thank you !
Best thing is to have both but choosing only one should be an excavator. Buy a mini ex + a dump trailer= PROFIT
I just got a 305e2, and just ordered the CAT Skid Steer coupler... So I can use a Skid Steer bucket, forks, ect.. (thats all I bought). Have the Mini, looking for the Truck.. The mini with Skid Coupler can do skid steer work, just not fast.... BUT i can do it, and better than what I just saw. Might have to make a video... Oh, when I buy my Skid Steer, I already own the forks, a bucket ect.. Win Win
I’m currently at the T/L/B stage and I feel like making that unit perform and learning on inferior equipment makes you a better operator when you get into a dedicated machine. Great Videos!!!
I think it depends on what type of work you do. For instance I’m into building and remodeling. We do a lot of additions and decks. I was having to subcontract out my light excavation. It always seemed like a headache to get the timing right and it was costing me more on my bottom line. I bought a mini excavator this spring and I pretty much had it pay for itself this summer by doing my own excavation. So next summer that’s a 100% profit in my pocket. I most likely buy an skid loader next summer. But my point is you need to figure out what will fit your needs the best.
Man I’ve been debating this for months. I feel the same way. Don’t have any experience with “heavy” equipment and I wanted to buy an excavator and a skid for the same reason you just explained. I’m happy to hear it worked out for you
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I started with a TLB and I learned how to grade with the TLB. I even finished up a Airport with a TLB grading around Runways and Taxiways. It also had a set of pallet forks. It is about manipulating the weight of the TLB to get it to do what you need.
I run equipment as well but love watching others. I’ve learned a lot just from watching others operate so I say let it play !!!
I have owned a Gehl 5635 skid, Case 1845C skid, and now have a John Deere CT322. I also own a IHI mini-ex. my property is a 106 acre steep mountain side property in Oregon coastal mountains. Between my general contracting business and home. I would saying I am able to make 6x-10x time income with my CT322 but that is because of the attachments I own. 6' foot brush hog $185.00-$235/hr land clearing and mowing, extreme root grapple, pallet forks, 1/2 yard bucket with removable digging bar teeth, and my favorite attachment is the ABI SR3.
I have own and sold my Bradco 609 backhoe skid-steer attachment with 3 bucket sizes. The hoe attachment are terribly clumsy, terrible to store, terrible to move around on the job site, terrible to transport from down the road from job to the yard. for the $12,000 price look for a used mini excavator you will be much happier.
Around the house and farm the mini-ex get used 80% with the jobs I do for the land management, digging pond, trenches, cleaning ditches, building new access roads, taming slopes, culverts, and digging stumps ect. On my Job sites the Track-steer is used 80% of the time with the exception of the trenches and footings for the mini-ex.
Gehl are turds, they still use oil cooled engines? Lol and chain drives? Omg I used a Gehl for 1 snow storm yrs ago, I never offered to help again after that night, what a POS
Great video! It depends on what you are doing. A drainage contractor might might want a min excavator. A general landscaping company might want a skid steer and rent a min x when they need one. It all depends on where you are, and what you are doing! Up north, dirt and snow- skid first
Down south, clay and more clay- skid, or min x.
Thank you !
The machines definitely compliment each other. At the same time, the operators level of experience matters too
Thats obvious but which one do you buy FIRST so you can afford the other? That is the balancing act of building your business.
of course. but also it depends what the job is. the skid loaders going to be faster sometimes. the excavator can do things a skid steer cant do.
Long or time lapse is awesome cause it shows planning and maneuvers of the machines to beginner operators. The best skills of the trade are the ones you share.
I started out 2 year's ago with a jcb 214 backhoe. I love the backhoe, but im definitely ready for a skidsteer and a min excavator.. But grateful for the jcb. It got me started.. Thanks for the video. I loved it..
You're welcome Dave , congrats on 2 years! Thank you for watching
There better when they work together.
ive been opperating equipment for many years and ive been landscaping since i was 15 but i still enjoy watching videos of it all because maybe ill learn something new.
Oh, and watching guys spin circles on any track machine drives me insane. In rock or gravel, it is super hard on them especially so on rubber tracks
Add a rounded bucket of 0-3 and 0° turning pad loaded with large boulders and sharp sticks all while keeping the machine in rabbit. WE GoT OurSELVES AN Operrratoorr here
I always love your videos but in this instance I think having the right attachments would have had a different outcome in the contests. Should have had a 4’ bucket for the mini x and a root grapple for the skid and they both would have done much better. I believe the mini x is the best first machine. Just my opinion. Still love the video. 👍
You need the both of them if just had to choose I would have to go with excavator
You should check out the hybrid ones that's a cross between a mini and a skidsteer its a pretty cool set up I think in the future when its refined more they will be everyone's first pick.
Let’s see skid steer with different buckets like rake bucket for the roots and backhoe attachments
A backhoe loader in the best all rounder should have done a 3 machine comparison
More machines working please and do like more long demos on latest equipment
My uncle started with a TLB like a lot of other people. He has been in business for many many years also and does also recommend the TLB for beginners. The first piece of construction equipment I ever ran was his TLB and I didn't hate it.
Track loader wins all day just because it is so versatile. The amount of attachments are endless making it capable of doing anything. Jack of all trades and master of 1.
Hi based in ireland, No one runs a skid steer, every one runs a mini excavtor along with aarticulated mini dumper. i higher standard of work can be achieved with a excavator and we move soil with a low cost mini dumpers .
Thanks for sharing Willie!
Same here in Denmark. If not a mini dumper then a motor wheel berrel with tracks.
I dont use a skid enough so i may be biased but def mini. Loading is no prob if proper site prep/material drops are established, moving pallets isnt an issue if u keep straps in ur trailer, and depending on pallet weight may not even be needed. Just use ur blade tip and bucket to lift it/set it on top. If pallet is freighted then u chance breaking it and making a mess. Thats where straps or chains are handy. Once u get the hang it only takes maybe 45 seconds or so to rig up 2 straps if theyre on hand. The skids definately can move yardage quicker no question. But again, planning goes along way.the skids have a TON of handy attachments. Minis certainly have alot too. I tjink minis tend to leave the sites with less hand touch up work but others will say thats just due to not being familiar enough with skid op...which may be. Ultimately i think it all depends on what ur planning on using it for the majority of time. For us its a stumper, boulder/stone placer, digger, grader, trencher, and loose brush loader. Things like that are easier to have the mini i feel. Well....grading with a skid is actually pretty nice....
Thanks for the comments Arthur !
Hello I'm an idahoan from Idaho and watch your videos every day even re watch and I love when you show equipment in action
Awesome! Thanks for watching !
Always fun to bring equipment off the flatbed
Yep, thanks for watching !
Is it the first time the guy operated the mini, about as smooth as an earth quake and I can’t figure out the way he approaches the dig. It’s frustrating to watch him and he’s slow and untidy
I started with a case 850B with a 4 in 1 bucket (45,000 lb) and a dump truck. Purchased for a specific job of moving a hill of 20,000 cubic yards of dirt. Now that I am retiring and doing fun projects for myself and family, I am getting a mini-excavator with a thumb that I can haul around easily on my utility trailer. Being able to get into tight places and work without making a huge mess is really nice.
I’ve got a small landscaping company and I started with a 1025r. It can do a ton of things without tearing up the yard. Now that I’m getting bigger I’m looking at a skid steer. And eventually a mini ex.. got to start somewhere and attachments are much cheaper for tractors
They compliment eachother... not compete with.... 2 totally different machines for 2 totally different purposes. Also your operators blow
My 12 year old can run the skidsteer better than this guy and tears up the ground less than half as much. Spinning on axis is the absolute worst thing to do with skidsteer also, destroys the internals on the undercarriage. Definitely meant to compliment each other
if you have nothing nice to say than say nothing .....
@@brandonmillion4653 You know those people that are douche bags, but think they're cool? That's you.
@@JustMe-999a So if he's a douche bag for expressing his opinion, I guess that makes you one as well.
@@ClinttheGreat nope. Just you.
after 30+ years we still dont have a full size skid but have everything else
Love these vids...I'm saving up for a skid steer... Right now all I have is a 74 Chevy 3500 dump truck and shovel and pick... But getting the jobs done
Thank you!!
I used a skid steer to trench for years, even in heavy clay. Actually does a nice job creating a level bottom trench.
wish I could have seen that so I learn from you! Mine is always consistent...... Consistently ROUGH!
I love my mini skid steer! I started with it and grossed over 350k in 1 year my new toy is a mini x now! IN 1 MONTH MADE 10K WITH IT! Id start with a skid steer (mini) for residential work
You made that much renting it or using it
One thing I saw was the lack of use of the blade on the mini-ex. When he moved the pile of dirt to the center he could have pushed a large portion of it into place as he repositioned. Also on the land clearing it would have been interesting to see the difference in blading vs digging out the palmettos. I guess that’s just me though because I got started on a dozer.
My exact thoughts. This video made me cringe.. I could have moved that pile with the mini x almost as quick as the skid.. helps having dozer experience and a good operator
Well, I just purchased a 3025E Deere. Really hard to beat the 0% financing with all the attachments and the lower cost. That paired with the dump trailer paid with cash I am hoping to increase my lawn business to more landscape. Been researching my county/state laws and it looks like I would need a contractors license to start any type of hardscape. Seriously thanks for this channel, it's helping a lot.
Happy to hear that and thanks for watching !
I started with a skid but quickly bought a mini. They each have their strong points.
Buy a good used TLB with quick attachs on both ends and rent the other pieces as needed until you can afford to buy them.
Living in NH with some big hills on the property. A mini ex and a tractor for me. I wouldn’t dare drive a skid loader on my slopes
We just got a mini excavator last year after 3 years full time demolition. Prior to that, only had a skid steer. For demolition. The point is, there's nothing you can't do with any machine if you're a good enough operator.
Started my business this year with a Kubota TLB. My primary jobs are re-surfacing stone driveways and adding stone parking pads. Yeah a skid could get it done faster but, for new guys starting out, you dont have the phone ringing off the hook 24/7 needing work done. Keeping overhead costs down is as equally important. Could have bought a used skid, but didnt want to deal with the potential of equipment breaking down on a big machine - that would kill a new business owner.
Hope you had a great first year, thanks for watching!
18" Deep!!!! We have to go down 42" here to get below frost line (I live at 7000' in the Colorado Rockies)
Disclaimer This video for entertainment purposes only
I started with a backhoe and im pretty happy with it. Its an old ford 555 and it does everything i ask of it.
I have been looking at a Kubota BX23S like A Ritter Bit has. The problem I see with it is that the FEL and Backhoe are fairly weak. If you buy the tractor without the backhoe it's about $7k less. If you don't buy the mower deck it's $2k less. I think it would make more sense to buy the large Compact instead of the subcompact and get a better loader and a box blade. The use either a Lawn Tractor (I have a JD X300 already). For about $23k you can buy the smallest Kubota Mini EX. That will fit thru a standard fence. You could also buy a Ditchwitch or Vermeer Mini Skid that will also fit thru a fence. All in for about $75k. or the cost of a skid.
Now the reason I picked things that could for thru a small fence is that most people here all have fenced in yards. Most of the lawn care is done by guys with a mower, a blower and a trailer. Most of the skid steer guys are doing new construction. Most of the ex guys are digging pools or foundations.
I'm not sure who gets paid the most but the competition is huge for large jobs if you have a skid, Ex and a dump truck. Also the guy with a mower and a blower.
Tree trimmers are probably making the most per hour. At least that's the guy taking most of my money.
Thank you for the input Bill and thanks for viewing!
Wow, never seen a chipper/shredder like that at the end.
Skid with a few key attachments
Get a decent backhoe attachment for the skidsteer and a guy could do quite a bit.
Sam klien agreed on that .. 11ft bucket attachment.
Teeth bucket, guick spade, forks, and done...
Swing arm backhoe, tooth bucket, root grabber rake, auger, fork, hydraulic breaker
@@steveheilman2925 I've a gheil with forks, tooth bucket, smooth bucket, power broom, snow blower, and backhoe attachments. Still wish I had a mini with a blade for most of the real digging stuff.
if a Mini Excavator and Skid steer had a baby it would be a JCB 1CXT
Interesting video. Both skid loader and mini excavator have there special purpose. And both are really handy machines to have. If starting out with a single machine I would go with a backhoe loader
Need some decent operators lol
Exactly
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^ expert operators. Funny how they pop up it of nowhere.
Hahaha agreed
You know, I was thinking that too, but this video is supposed to be people starting out which probably aren't masters at the machines.
Personally if I have compatible-equipment I would attach a excavator arm to the skid steer.
Those suck
WITH THE NICK Jcb 1cx
Take a look at the Mecalac MCR machines (6, 8, or 10t). There’s your Two in One.
I was thinking something more like an attachment like those bushwhackers, forks, buckets,etc...those are good ideas but the jcb 1cx cant lift up itself up with its back hoe bucket but the front can. And the Mecala MCR is more of a mini excavator, but they are good for saving money instead of buying two different vehicles, and are good for small projects.
Useless! Waste of time and money. At that point u might as well buy a worn out backhoe from a town lol
Love these videos! This will be my 3rd year landscaping. I use a Mahindra TLB now and looking to go skid or mini this year. This answered a few questions for me!
Thanks!!
Awesome to hear that Aaron, hope you have a great third year!
Skidsteer is a landscape destroyer in the task you have set forth and needs a lot of sqare footage to do the work. The mini-EX is light on landscape, doesn't use lots of sqaure footage to do the task. If you need to transport material with mini-EX, just hang a container over the front dozerblade and load it with the excavator
I'll take the mini x all day long.. I've moved many pallets using that technique. It might take longer but I'll make up for 10x over
id love to see long equipment running videos love all your videos either way but love seeing the equipment work since i'm out of the game now :(
Thanks King Kobra!
Need a 4 in 1 bucket for that skid
My son and I like to watch the machines working.
I could sit and watch equipment run all day.
Thanks for viewing !
Interesting viewpoints. Down here (NZ) I would say excavators outnumber skid steer by a significant margin, with the latter mostly being on building sites to move material.
Last related company I worked for had, with normal replacements taking into account, at least 20 excavators in their fleet from 1.3T to over 20T (over that, they'd just hire for the specific job)and NO skid steers, because they were not suitable for the work. All had trench, rock and weed (the larger, wide ones for loose material) buckets and some had picks for hard materials, etc. With quick hitches/couplers on all but the lightest machines, swapping out buckets was a speedy affair and so there wasn't really an issue with a small bucket limiting material transfer - and, remember, buckets are normally reversable for cleaner material pick up. There was a comment made about forks for the s/steer for shifting pallets, but they are also available for most excavators or, as we did for some special tools, make a set up - otherwise use strops, as we generally did.
Oh, forgot, we did have a couple of small, articulated loaders for when there was a fair bit of material to be moved and, when there was a LOT of earthworks involved, we either hired machines or sub-contracted the work out.
In the end, might simply come down to personal preference - and, perhaps, if s/steers are so common you could look at an excavator and do subcontract work for those who don't have one but still find it more economical to have someone do it faster and neater than have an operator in a s/steer messing around? Get on-line and check out some of the attachments available for each machine - you may be surprised just what is available for each, like rock breakers, auger drives for pilings/fencing, etc. that can add to the revenue earning potential of the machines.
Oh, and check out the Duckgirl videos - wheeled rather than tracked, but same operating principle.
Lastly, who the heck gave the thumbs down?
Thanks for watching !
buy a tractor, then a mini skid, then a mini ex. then a full skid. Best way to grow into what you got
Mimi loader, mimi ex, compact loader, back -hoe.
The mimi loader saves the most money on labor. And compliments the mimi ex amazingly. Plus it stops the beginning guys from getting in over there heads and the mini loader can do so much.
everybody doesn't have all that money...lol
I love the videos, but my toddler now has his favorite show. He is always excited to watch loaders and excavators. Love the extended sequence.
The fella in the skid steer needs more experience.
Howdy, hard choice but minie ex.
First time in the shovel? Slooooow. 😁 For residential and budget wise. mini x 1st. power barrel 2nd. This combination will get everything you need done, with standard truck/trailer combos and licencing. You need a lot more money to step up to having a mini x and skidsteer. Your not just buying the skidsteer. Your buying a second heavy spec truck (preferably a tandem or triaxle), a new low boy and a driver with proper licensing for that combo. Having a mini and skid is a big step up. A power barrel like KC70 is a cheap bridge gap until you can afford a big change, and rent a skidsteer when required. Skid steer only makes a mess of finishing residential like hardscaping. Great vids i like them.
I am faced with this dilemma right now. I'm clearing about an eighth of an ace for parking and snow removal. It 's about 2" of top soil over 7 miles of river rock and full of stumps. I also have another spot that has pits that need to be filled. Both need to be graded after. I can only choose one, so I went for the excavator.
Hammer vs Screwdriver. Which one should you start with? Let's test them out to find out!
We all know this is just an excuse for a couple of buds to get together and play on some equipment. I would advise anyone who wants to buy equipment and get into the industry talk to someone and or read the comments below of people who own and have operated these two types of equipment and more to point you in the right direction. There is no one machine that does it all the most efficient at everything. Also renting is an option if you buy one and rent the others I get you have to be competitive in pricing but I do it time to time.
We started with a mini ex. Next purchase was the skid steer (and a couple more minis behind it). For us that was absolutely the right order. Truthfully our margins are better on jobs we use the minis for, ie sewer/water work, but there are times you desperately need the skiddy. And if you’re gonna get a skid steer put an mp bucket on, it’s about the handiest thing since tracks IMO. Makes cleanup a breeze, you can have smooth cutting edges and teeth at the same time, and you can load the hell out of a tri axle you barely clear the side of.
Oh, and one more thing, check out the cat 304.5. Its not gonna replace the skid steer, but it’ll definitely give you some skid steerish capabilities on a mini excavator. Particularly if you have to move material over distance. It can be a bit awkward, but it would probably be my go to first machine if it had existed when I started.
Thanks for the input Geoff and thanks for watching!
Thanks for putting so much helpful info out there!
I started with TLB and then bought mini excavator 3 months ago. I’m now buying a skid steer as well. IMHO both are necessary
I’d like To see this test with a mecalac versus owning these 2 cats. Compare price and transport and labor as well.
TangledUp WithCombs agreed but I would add a JCB 1CXT
I agree, would love to see a Mecalc in this same test....A wheeled mecalac, you can drive to the site, it's much faster than any tracked machine to move around and with 3 steering modes, allows great flexibility for moving or repositioning the machine and you don't mess up the ground like tracked machines do. the 3 piece boom allows for farther and closer working range which means less moving the machine. A mecalac is certainly much better than a TLB, but it's also 4x as expensive. its lifting and breakout force is far superior to any excavator or skidsteer in its weight class due to excellent geometry and mechanical/hydraulic design. One thing I don't like about the Mecalac is how loud it is specially when reved up, not sure why they don't use a quieter engine. Also, it is not as efficient as a dedicated loader when it comes to loading or moving material. Another downside is that the controls are completely different and very specialized so there's a learning curve...not a good thing if you have multiple operators, but not a problem if you're an owner/operator. Another advantage is that you can tow a dump trailer with it which allows you to carry all your attachments to where your need them and move dirt longer distances than just 20 or 50 feet. Another great thing about the mecalac is that you can also grab all your attachments backwards which allows more flexibility and opportunities with all your attachments. Unfortunately, the 11MWR that I wanted was going to cost me $250k for the machine plus another $100k for all the attachments....but it's a dream machine...some day.
That was painful to watch two guys I have no idea how to run equipment making one hell of a big mess
Dennis Harvey exactly what I was thinking! Lol
@@belllpatrick For entertainment purposes only should have been a disclaimer at the beginning.
Yes but the real question is what size machine, I started with a 1989 or 90 bobcat 743 with a John Deere 800 backhoe attachment, now I do remediation work with larger equipment, 13 ton excavator, 8 ton excavator and a 570 track skidsteer on the last job we did all rented equipment. Awesome video guys I follow all 3 of you.
Thanks for the support John !
I started with a Cat 301.8. Opened up a niche market that a lot of other companies couldn't or wouldn't touch
Stan what Trav said at 10:21 is EXACTLY why I started with a mini. Have one skid now, Cat 259D3, but just got a bigger mini, Cat 306. Sooooo much more work out there
Why not get an excavator attachment for a skid steer? Seems like the “best” of both worlds.
Because they suck
Randy Kirk not once did I say they were the most efficient pal, all I said was it’s work. Right or wrong?
@@bentodd3859 ya every piece of equipment in the world "works". Golden star for you. just stating a fact about them things
Randy Kirk sorry I don’t know the ins and outs of landscaping what I do is geared toward larger construction jobs with bigger equipment equipment for each specific task.
The guys that I know that have those pieces of garbage have them sitting in the backs of their yards. When they have that type of work they just call me now.
I am 15 years old and I started on a Kubota l48 loader-backhoe
Work on getting a CDL and don't let the world stop you.
Awesome Isak, work hard and you will be successful!
Thanks Mr T
Lol also learned on an L48 they're great machines! Never got a lick of maintenance and never had a problem. Yeah they're not precise but I think the versatility of a tlb can't be beaten if you can only afford one machine. Can always rent a skid or mini but I don't think renting a tlb ever makes much sense. Not to mention some jobsites are so small it's only feasible to have one machine. Last of all nobody ever mentions how much less damage a tractor does to an established yard.
Get away from the loader backhoe and learn mini excavator and tracked skidsteers, and u dont move the dirt or trees with rear of any machine! Remember that! Treat the back of any machine like it's the front of your 50k $ car!
I want to see more equipment work in your videos i find it interesting to watch equipment work all day
Thanks for the feedback Ryan !
you can get tons of attachments for a skid steer to help with all of this stuff. that is y I would pick a skid steer
You can also get a bucket buddy for your mini ex.
I'd like to watch the entire sequence to learn what I can and see mistakes as they occur.
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JCB xD
Good idea Bradley, thank you !
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Looks like the terrain here in Florida. Of course no grading is complete without a dozer. Palmettoes are more easily removed with rake bucket.
Really depends on what kind of work you do most. But I would buy the skidloader first make some money. After a year or two buy a mini excavator. They are nice for getting into yards with minimal damage.
A mini excavator can make you way more money than a skid. My skid is used for moving dirt and level the ground. This excavator operator is slow as fuuc lol
He was digging the entire time off the drive gears. Its excavator 101 to not dig over drive sprockets po ut 2 actual operators in the machines and it will be fair
and put the blade down for f sake when you dig...lol
The main reason that backhoe are still popular on the marketplace are because of large construction sites. A TLB can traverse large sites and even drive down paved road faster than any other piece of construction equipment other than a bucket loader. So when you need a piece of equipment they can do pretty much everything, and you need it to run around a massive sight from here to there, the TLB fits that bill.
On the other hand, the skid steer is really replacing them for most material movement tasks… Especially as long as you don’t have to drive down a road or something like that. The skid steer doesn’t have the height and visibility of a backhoe, but that’s about all it gives up. With all the attachments you can get for a skid steer that weren’t shown in this video, it’s pretty incredible what you can do. I would say the skid steer would be my first option because of the fact that almost anything you could do with a mini excavator other than dig trenches you could get an attachment for a skid steer that could do it as well or better. Heck they even make trenching attachments for skid steer machines.
Obviously if you have a job that is pretty much all digging in the excavator is king, it’s also a better machine for demo with the ability to reach up high with that bucket and smash things from the top. But once you start carrying that material away to the bin or the truck… there’s no contest.
I’m on the other side of the fence from that gentleman, I would own a skid steer and rent an excavator when I need it. The deal about my theory is this. You can basically guarantee that a midsize skid steer will always do the job that you need done. However you never know exactly which size excavator will be the best size for the job. So if you’re going to rent a piece of equipment because you can only own one thing, you’re better off to rent the excavator and get exactly the size that you need.
What are you trying to say? Are you comparing ice cream to hot tea? Each is got it's function. What's the difference between a dozer and a bicycle? Lol
Step 1. Find “decent” operators
Step2. Get equipment
Step.3 etc
Both operators suck. That was tough to watch.
Every operator thinks they are the best and others suck lol
After years of only having a skid loader and now having a mini x and a Vermeer CTX 100 I don't know why we waited so long! You can do a lot with a skid loader, but having a mini just makes jobs go so much better
I love my 2018 310l John Deere jack of all trades!
Great video but hard to judge the machines when the people aren't real skilled operators
But realistically the operators wont be very skilled if it is their first machine
Cayden Thompson if you’re spending that much money on a machine i really hope you would know how to use it
@@Cosner90 sadly they dont tho! By end of first day the paint and rear counterweight or doors are ripped off and bent up. Sad on such pricey equipment. Landscapers should stick to hand tools
If Travis could operate that excavator worth a damn... Why not ever use the damn blade?
lol
I just bought my 1st machine and its a Yannar Vio-35 6A mini-x. But thats because I do phone/fiber placement that require's mainly trenching. If not for that I would have to say a skid loader every time. Great comparison .
To me I chose to buy a mini excavator first because after working for another guy for a few years running both and bigger excavators I liked them better. With a mini excavator I feel it’s nice because you can dig , load trucks, build retaining walls which is big in my area, do driveways and push big amounts of dirt with the blade and fine grading with the bucket all with one machine. That’s just my opinion and preference.
Title should read: Bring your children to work day on the jobsite.
Full disclosure, both operators are better than me.
The mini is just hard to watch tho lol
TWO DIFFERENT TOOLS
My first machine was a Yanmar vio 15-2. Everyone and their dog had skid steers. I did a lot of trenching, and grade beam/pile cap excavating. Stripping sod, and grading between narrow lots. Breaker and post hole auger I can get into places that a skid can't.
If you don't mind, how did you find work? Did you use a website or some other resource?
@@DrMuto I got into a couple of good clients, they have a lot of connections. I do good work and they are happy with the work and service I provide. I do not work cheap, but I don't overcharge either. Other jobs that I give prices on, people complain that it is to much. So i tell them to hire the other guy for cheap, and they can pay me to fix the mess which will cost more than my original price lol. I have had to do that a few times.
Word of mouth for me works better than wasting my time with tire kickers.
Thank you, that was the point I was making elsewhere. Exc' is potentially more versatile and if you're the guy who can do the work the skid loaders can't... :-)
Dr. Muto I have a couple of videos of ripping and excavating frozen ground for a grade beam if you want to check them out.
czcams.com/video/RPpOd4IZ1Ro/video.html
Get the skid loader. You can get more versatility out of the skid. You can find attachments for every job out there. Get a backhoe attachment, grapple, and bucket and you can do anything you need to do.
The guy on the mini needs some training, he should have it turned around and drop the blade while digging to steady the machine out.
At least you pick to equal amateur operators.
Hahahah that was great, the more i watch this channel the more i see why hes focusing on CZcams
This was a super cool video, I am in between both pieces of equipment right now to level my slopped backyard-
Also- that attachment chews up trees like if they were nothing lol
Thanks Anderson !
I’ve run both TLB (Case 680G) and skid loaders from various manufacturers (Case, Bobcat, ASV, and Caterpillar). The skid loaders are very versatile pieces of equipment, which can get into places the larger TLB would not fit into. However, if you don’t have access to a trailer to move equipment around, say within five miles, and you need to road the machine, I would much rather drive the TLB down the street at about 20 mph than s skid loader at less than 10 mph.
Painful to watch. I've seen equipment run way better locally