Ranking the Best Martial Arts Takedowns TIER LIST

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  • čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
  • In this video, @Shigashi84 and myself break down what we think are the best takedowns in Martial Arts! With his background in Judo, Wrestling, Sambo and more and my background in Karate, I would say we are more than qualified to talk about these awesome (and some... not so awesome?) trips, throws and sweeps! We will rank the following takedowns and throws:
    Front Headlock Takedown
    Ankle Pick
    Knee Pick
    Koshi Garuma
    Scissor Takedown (the one Cung Le does)
    Tomo Nagae
    Double Leg
    Single Leg
    Ogoshi
    Osoto Gari
    Foot Sweeps
    Arm Drag
    Ouchi Gari
    Ippon Seoi Nage
    and Suplex!
    Big thanks to @Shigashi84 for helping me out with this tier list!
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  • @SenseiSeth
    @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +168

    Go follow my man Shintaro!! czcams.com/users/Shigashi84

  • @pimstash9047
    @pimstash9047 Před 3 lety +1684

    A submissions tier list would also be cool

  • @shakoiatenhawithacrossjaco9051

    “Ankle pick is F tier”
    Me, a 6’2’’ wrestler: my disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined

    • @ARTEMIX888
      @ARTEMIX888 Před 2 lety +8

      Lmao

    • @ChrisM-tn3hx
      @ChrisM-tn3hx Před 2 lety +31

      Ankle pick was how Randy Couture took down James Toney (6 time world champion heavyweight boxer, for those who don't know), and basically showed him the limitations of his art.

    • @stango141
      @stango141 Před 2 lety +11

      S tier when you got 6 inches on your opponent. Always see the 6'5" heavy weight killing the short ones.

    • @user-gb4zq9np7m
      @user-gb4zq9np7m Před 2 lety +20

      @@ChrisM-tn3hx that's not an ankle pick that's a low single

    • @thanatoast4389
      @thanatoast4389 Před 2 lety +1

      @@user-gb4zq9np7m This. You can still use an ankle pick in mma if you mask it ala Frankie Edgar. A low single against an actual mma fighter or someone who trains would be problematic

  • @carthagegaming5545
    @carthagegaming5545 Před 3 lety +295

    Imanari roll:
    Coolness factor SS
    Risk factor FF

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +14

      Haha tomoe is cooler imo!!

    • @carthagegaming5545
      @carthagegaming5545 Před 3 lety +12

      @@SenseiSeth true true, I just get super hype when I see like Chase Hooper or one of those kind of grappling specialists diving for it after he gets crushed in striking.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +5

      It’s a dope move for sure!!

    • @kevinjohnson6549
      @kevinjohnson6549 Před 3 lety +14

      Ryan hall ftw

    • @football4life85
      @football4life85 Před 3 lety +2

      @@kevinjohnson6549 i was looking for this

  • @SpriteAndSmite
    @SpriteAndSmite Před 3 lety +342

    Pulled off an ankle pick on one of our instructors once. The retribution was horrible. Definitely F tier for that.

    • @JakeEatNow
      @JakeEatNow Před 3 lety +74

      I took down my instructor down once and he put me through a 6 minute clinic of submissions.

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 Před 3 lety +51

      @@JakeEatNow definitely a jiu jitsu instructor...

    • @dD-ft1td
      @dD-ft1td Před 2 lety +6

      @@jestfullgremblim8002damn so true

    • @korallrev3497
      @korallrev3497 Před 2 lety +11

      im 194 cm 100+ kilos, i tried to do a ougoshi on my BJJ black belt coach the other day, after that he was like eddie the breakdancer-fighter in TEKKEN

    •  Před 5 měsíci

      I once did Ura-Nage on my Sensei, he was excited and happy actually, he praised and encouraged me instead of punishing me. Guess that's why I love my dojo over any other.

  • @muhammadkarim2709
    @muhammadkarim2709 Před 3 lety +337

    Watching Taekwondo get clowned in every video is the highlight of my day.

  • @christulloch3473
    @christulloch3473 Před 3 lety +255

    That tomae wasn't in a court room Seth. That was the South Korean parliament.

    • @belalabusultan5911
      @belalabusultan5911 Před 3 lety +22

      makes sense.
      Arab parliaments frefer throwing stuff on eachother instead lol

    • @josephjames3320
      @josephjames3320 Před 3 lety

      lmao

    • @daveklein4696
      @daveklein4696 Před 3 lety

      Bc it matters?

    • @internetenjoyer1044
      @internetenjoyer1044 Před 3 lety +14

      Really makes me appreciate all the weird rules the UK parliament has, like both sides of the house not being able to come closer than two sword lengths from each other, not being able to address someone directly, you have to say "the honourable member" or "my honourable friend" etc. it all seems silly until you realise that probably these rules developed from politicians getting angry at each other and fighting, coz we see that happening in younger parliaments

    • @onerider808
      @onerider808 Před 2 lety

      Truly? Insane. Once a US Senator was caned down outside his senate office. I think a few fisticuffs have happened in British parliament...our elected representatives, lol. If reason doesn’t work, give em an elbow strike or seo nage.

  • @tylersluys8599
    @tylersluys8599 Před 3 lety +176

    As a Judo black belt and former Mixed Martial Artist, and someone who has worked security for the last 12 years in high risk environments, I have been in hundreds of real life physical altercations. One of the BEST takedowns EVER has proven for me to be the Osoto Gari. It is super simple and easy to learn and master, it can be one of the most devastating and punishing takedowns or one of the most gentle depending on how much leverage you decide to incorporate, it bypasses the guard and puts you right into knee on belly, and it has a low risk factor if it doesnt go your way. It is easily adapted to no-gi with a single collar tie grip. Not to mention it is a technique that requires a little less room than other techniques making it great for close quarter crowded spaces, AND it can be easily incorporated into team based takedowns and other strategies. Osoto Gari definately deserves to be on the S tier. No question about it.

    • @billh6010
      @billh6010 Před 3 lety +15

      Yes. Funny enough some people who naturally have great sense of balance and some athleticism can readily do crude osotogari quite effectively, without even knowing what osoto gari is. It is so intuitive.

    • @dadthelad
      @dadthelad Před 3 lety

      Thanks for that, good points you make, good to know!

    • @spiritualanarchist8162
      @spiritualanarchist8162 Před 2 lety +8

      Being a Judo blue belt (as a kid ) i agree 😉. Seriously though, it's a move that once you learned how to use it, you don't forget it. And you can use it for the rest of your life, even if you'r out of shape.

    • @TheLockon00
      @TheLockon00 Před 2 lety +4

      O-soto-gari is so easy even Bruce Lee knew how to do it. lol.

    • @Jacked_R_Us
      @Jacked_R_Us Před rokem +3

      The problem with osoto gari is if the person knows how to defend against it you might end up getting osoto

  • @skycow3208
    @skycow3208 Před 3 lety +309

    I could see shintaro make a vid Called “ankle picks don’t work”👀

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +19

      Bahaha

    • @skycow3208
      @skycow3208 Před 3 lety +10

      @@SenseiSeth to be fair though I can’t ever land a ankle pick

    • @grsimpson3957
      @grsimpson3957 Před 3 lety +7

      @@skycow3208 I only ever did it once. Against a non wrestler.

    • @skycow3208
      @skycow3208 Před 3 lety

      @@grsimpson3957 I know there actually pretty hard to pull off

    • @sheeparebillygoats7221
      @sheeparebillygoats7221 Před 3 lety +8

      Theiy aren't that hard. It's a go to for me. I'm 5' 6" and once I get a guy to lower his level while i have a collar tie, thai clinch or a good lapel grip if he leaves that leg out there for me it's pretty high %. I use a Russian variant also that start by trapping the foot with your foot, then pushing him backwards and when he goes to catch his balance he usualy spread legs to far and yhat lowers his posture and then go for the traditional pick.

  • @igotmydd214
    @igotmydd214 Před 3 lety +92

    The 1st throw I learned was the Osoto Gari. It was a fundamentals class, the instructor was this Sergeant Major (black in judo/brown in bjj), and he picked me bc I was the tallest in the class and a vet. He instantaneously knocked me down flat on my back. It is this memory that always convicts me to polish break falls.
    I really feel the foot sweep (sasae) should be S tier. Almost broke a rib when I got hit it. I fell on a matted cage and I still felt like I fell down a flight of stairs; I can't imagine it on concrete.If someone can master it, then they will look like Yoda.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +10

      Awesome story!

    • @rrteppo
      @rrteppo Před 2 lety +8

      Osoto is the first throw I learned in TKD as a kid. I personally have to rank it S tier for the sole fact I have used it on all my girlfriends.
      You modify it a little bit and go in close, far arm on shoulder, near arm hips/waist(to catch her before she falls all the way), and then go for the throw. It is as close to the movie sweep her off her feet as you can get.

    • @davisimo0
      @davisimo0 Před 2 lety +2

      First throw I learned was Ippon Seoi Nage for that exact reason. You learn almost all of the judo fundamentals and principles (off balance, pivot, momentum, timing, follow through, ground transition) in one throw.

    • @Eidenhoek
      @Eidenhoek Před 2 lety

      I want you to know that somehow I read that you fell on a crate? of eggs.

    • @MrRobertFarr
      @MrRobertFarr Před rokem

      Yes! That's my favourite. But sometimes it doesn't work! But, in that situation. I tried to throw my pal. I don't know why. He blocked it! I had no other ideas. But, luckily. It was just silly football pitch joking around. Why, the hell did I do that? It's embarrassing when it does not work! Dam! Another stupid decision.

  • @natekelly770
    @natekelly770 Před 3 lety +249

    Always had a soft spot for Judo style takedowns. Thinking of starting it up soon

  • @harryhayes79
    @harryhayes79 Před 3 lety +77

    Seeing an ippon seio nage is the reason I started training so I always have a soft spot for that throw.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +12

      Dang, that’s pretty sick!

    • @harryhayes79
      @harryhayes79 Před 3 lety +2

      @@SenseiSeth thanks sensei 😀

    • @yoseph3625
      @yoseph3625 Před 3 lety +3

      My seio nage is cool af!!

    • @onerider808
      @onerider808 Před 2 lety +1

      My favorite to this day, even though a simple collar drag or arm drag has a higher success rate (for me, at least).

    • @onerider808
      @onerider808 Před 2 lety +2

      @@yoseph3625 my poor little brothers and Army buddies met the Earth many times as I was mastering it, the poor rascals. It’s still my favorite.

  • @MJ-rr4hd
    @MJ-rr4hd Před rokem +26

    1:35 uchi 2:51 tomoe nage 5:24 single leg 6:33 ankle pick
    8:13 knee pick 10:13 front headlock 11:58 ogoshi 13:09 ippon seoi nage 15:05 suplex 16:26 foot sweep 18:32 double leg
    20:15 scissors 22:18 osoto 24:10 koshi guruma

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 Před 3 lety +49

    The Tomo Nage (aka the "Captain Kirk") is incredibly easy to learn, as a Taekwondo guy I got taught it in *one* training session with a mate who did Judo… and used it IRL soon after (at school, by some steps).
    _Funnily enough he couldn't pick up roundhouse head kicks as easily_ - and a turning kick is useful in a grapple.
    As for the Tomo Nage/Sacrifice Throw if you have any gymnastics skill you can continue your roll and pop up back on your feet afterwards which is useful and looks _really cool_ - careful where you put your feet upon landing though.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +5

      Looks SO sick

    • @uberdonkey9721
      @uberdonkey9721 Před rokem

      Yep, first time I pulled it off I had only seen it, never practiced it but surprise factor made it easy

  • @matiasu7952
    @matiasu7952 Před 3 lety +78

    I think the damage the throw makes in a self defense situation if done correctly should be a factor too

    • @uberdonkey9721
      @uberdonkey9721 Před rokem +19

      Yup, UFC has really detracted from the importance of good throws on to a hard surface. To be honest, people can withstand alot of punches in most street fights, but a good throw on to back, back of head or shoulder etc will end someone (back of neck kills people easily).

    • @kaitlynbush
      @kaitlynbush Před rokem +15

      @@uberdonkey9721 Last week I went to Judo class and while sparring got thrown with Ippon Seoi Nage. Felt my ribs jam into my organs and was on the ground in pain for 5 minutes. If that was done full force on any non-mat surface, I would definitely be in the hospital, assuming I was still alive.

    • @basedbane787
      @basedbane787 Před rokem

      ​@@uberdonkey9721 definitely even just landing on your back on concrete or worse a curb could instantly end the fight

    • @alexkehoepwj
      @alexkehoepwj Před rokem +5

      If thats a factor, suplex is S tier

    • @cudd2287
      @cudd2287 Před rokem +3

      ​@Kaitlyn Bush I'm currently being flung around in judo , at maybe 50% what the guys could actually do , and on a padded mat and so far I've had smashed ribs , knee and hip, on a street you would be so fucked

  • @Soulful_Oatmilk
    @Soulful_Oatmilk Před 3 lety +30

    Dang I wish Uchi Mata, Tai Otoshi, and Kata Garuma were thrown into the list, but all in all very informative!
    Love Shintaro's channel, been a big fan since I started my Grappling Journey

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +1

      He we goofed

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +1

      He’s awesome though!

    • @emrebennett2857
      @emrebennett2857 Před rokem +4

      Should have added tai otoshi and osoto garı.. they are probably the most effective and used throws (along with uchi Mata)

  • @jasonhalvorsen9767
    @jasonhalvorsen9767 Před 3 lety +70

    I bet you could have included a master Ken move or restomp the groin throw somewhere in this list hah

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +5

      Haha I could’ve!

    • @mrmushin1
      @mrmushin1 Před 3 lety +2

      're stomp the groin occupys all the spots

    • @nottellingnostfu318
      @nottellingnostfu318 Před 2 lety +3

      Everyone knows ameridote is too deadly to be on these lists

  • @ChrisAmirVado
    @ChrisAmirVado Před 3 lety +55

    12 likes 4 views ... Sensei Seth has officially broken the time-space continuum 😳

  • @jahigains9201
    @jahigains9201 Před 3 lety +8

    Great video! Really felt like this helped deepen my understanding of some of these techniques. Can't stop imagining Shintaro at the bar, 8 beers deep, launching bodies lmao

  • @prandz420
    @prandz420 Před 3 lety +26

    7:55
    400 missed calls from john danaher

    • @DocTarnation
      @DocTarnation Před 3 lety

      Exactly. I was surprised he downgraded the ankle pick. Doesn't Shintaro get BJJ coaching from one of John Danaher's students?

    • @prandz420
      @prandz420 Před 3 lety +1

      DocTarnation I thought shintaro trained at renzos regularly with the danaher guys. Or at least did so in the past.
      I don’t really like the ankle pick either. To each his own.

    • @Jerry-fr4xo
      @Jerry-fr4xo Před 3 lety

      @@prandz420 I love it I grappling scenarios but coul easily end up with a boot to the face basic street fight

  • @charlesvo54
    @charlesvo54 Před 3 lety +67

    Wait did u guys talk about arm drags or was it just automatic D

    • @ezrapaul6808
      @ezrapaul6808 Před 3 lety +7

      Must have accidentally cut it idk

    • @Jerry-fr4xo
      @Jerry-fr4xo Před 3 lety +5

      Think you misspelled S

    • @markpagtama7954
      @markpagtama7954 Před 3 lety +7

      Idk why it was so low. Arm drags are cool af.

    • @jordanleonard6540
      @jordanleonard6540 Před 3 lety +2

      Arm drags are op af, I dont understand

    • @Pb-wp3zi
      @Pb-wp3zi Před 2 lety +3

      Arm drags are my go to Whenever friends/coworkers ask me to show them jiujitsu or wrestling moves. It's so easy to teach and pull off against non grapplers.

  • @JoniTsunami88
    @JoniTsunami88 Před 3 lety +15

    Yall have amazing chemistry, now do a 3 way colab with Icy Mike

  • @francismeowgannou5322
    @francismeowgannou5322 Před 3 lety +12

    The Tomo Nage in the "court room" was actually Korean members of Congress.

  • @anthonygerber8261
    @anthonygerber8261 Před 3 lety +1

    I love the collaboration videos you do with other prominent CZcams martial artists!
    BTW, the "every martial art in one room" video was truly great!!!

  • @lambchop3916
    @lambchop3916 Před 3 lety +2

    I love this video!!
    A bunch of stuff I’ve never even seen, but you can be sure that I will be trying this at my next sparring sesh at BJJ!

  • @neonjesus8831
    @neonjesus8831 Před 3 lety +36

    S tier: Ankle Pick if Tony Ferguson does it on a heavyweight
    A Tier: single leg against the cage with no intention to actually take the guy down, head down eyes closed double leg
    F tier: Everything else

  • @fbiagent2848
    @fbiagent2848 Před 3 lety +61

    Why is the high crotch single not on this list?? That is easily the coolest takedown because who doesn’t like seeing someone get rag dolled

    • @Blobbyo25
      @Blobbyo25 Před 3 lety +5

      Khabib would like to know your location.
      For real it's so satisfying to watch him effortlessly toss pro fighters around with high crotches

    • @lxlpsycho
      @lxlpsycho Před 3 lety +5

      A high crotch is a shot not a takedown.... how you decide to finish it is considered the takedown. You can finish it with either a single or a double leg.

    • @jhonthomas2899
      @jhonthomas2899 Před 3 lety +12

      @@lxlpsycho Firemans carry would easily be the flashiest takedown from high crotch.

    • @nicholasneyhart396
      @nicholasneyhart396 Před 3 lety

      @Jhon Thomas and one of the easiest.

    • @SeanWinters
      @SeanWinters Před 3 lety +3

      @@nicholasneyhart396 Easy to learn, not easy to actually use. If you practice enough, you can definitely get it, just not easy.

  • @jeanackle
    @jeanackle Před 3 lety +1

    I think you may be right on the Osoto Gari being good at teaching you the basic principles. I remember it was one of the first techniques I ever learned, and I was thereafter always mindful of (un)balance, position, posture (both physical and mental).
    Yep, think you hit the nail on that one.
    And also your ranking videos are always fun! Please do keep them coming!

  • @Raper_of_Trolls
    @Raper_of_Trolls Před 2 lety

    you guys are so great, subbed to both your channels. keep up the fun and informative content. love it.

  • @daveloral8449
    @daveloral8449 Před 3 lety +4

    At a wrestling tournament I was apart of last year I defended a single leg by using the front headlock take down. It was deemed my best move by my coaches because I'm a in the unlimited weight class and to bring a big guy over me like that is awesome to see and super impressive

  • @kingakachi7774
    @kingakachi7774 Před 3 lety +14

    When I did wrestling for one year, a knee pick was my go to every time, I was 195 at the time and had upper body strength so getting the head down was cake, all in all it’s something I mastered so well that in any street fight I’d feel confident in incorporating it in a situation. Still i’m a stand up striker at heart, but you can never get too comfortable in any style.

    • @jackhoff9607
      @jackhoff9607 Před 2 lety +2

      That's soo crazy, wild even.

    • @onerider808
      @onerider808 Před 2 lety +1

      I feel like shooting in during an actual fight is giving up the head to blows or guillotine, and the body to a number of strikes. Saw a guy try it once, and he got his skull busted with a bottle of Jack. Then they put the boots to him. I’ll stick to striking, baton, or J-frame.

    • @kingakachi7774
      @kingakachi7774 Před 2 lety +1

      @@onerider808 definitely. idk with smaller weight classes, but at least for bigger one’s, you don’t give up your head while knee picking, it’s more of a who can dominate who tactic. the only time i would use it in a street fight, is when ur fighting standing, and it comes into a clinch for whatever situation that would lead to that. instead of shooting in, grabbing the back of the neck, pushing their head down with your forehead, wrist control with other hand, then pull them down with all your force, immediately go to knee pick. in this situation you will not be giving up your head🤞🏼

    • @MrRobertFarr
      @MrRobertFarr Před rokem

      Yes. That's kind of my pick. But what if they stand tall. And attack the neck or spine. I can't see any throws, I really like the look of here.

  • @retnuhdraw1133
    @retnuhdraw1133 Před 3 lety

    Love this man! Y’all knocked it out of the park!

  • @njosborne5540
    @njosborne5540 Před 3 lety

    Great video. Really enjoyed this.

  • @Drikkerbadevand
    @Drikkerbadevand Před 2 lety +7

    When I started Judo I wondered why O soto was the first you learn aswell! Since it's actually very hard to do well. I think the thought behind that is you learn it early on in your training so you'll keep practicing because it is a very good throw to know

  • @TrickingFreak97
    @TrickingFreak97 Před 2 lety +4

    Pretty cool list. Would have loved to hear your opinions on Harai Goshi (or Tai Otoshi) and Uchi Mata. Since I especially loved the latter back when I used to compete

  • @bryanhurley6303
    @bryanhurley6303 Před 3 lety +2

    Much respect for this list. Great info from Higashi Sensei. The fact you're covering the most common (across grappling disciplines) throws/takedowns makes sense. Not going to argue with the rankings you have. I could get behind those, just thought I'd add a couple essentials that I think should be in the list. These are slightly more advanced and thus a little harder to get good at, but (due to their common usage in MMA), harai-goshi (sweeping hip), o-guruma (big wheel), and uchi-mata (inner thigh) should be considered.
    Downsides of sweeping-hip or big wheel (in keeping with this topic):
    * throwing from 1 leg requires greater balance and control
    * exposes your back to opponent (but a little less awkwardly than an o-goshi depending on variation)
    BIG upside of these (or why to add them to list):
    * a failed o-goshi or koshi-guruma can often be salvaged with some sweeping or springing hip action, making these essential "continuations" of those techniques (o-guruma being tends to happen when they miss the sweeping hip)
    * can be enhanced with makikomi finishes to increase impact, and maintain close control on landing (and get the 3x coolness-multiplier the sound of air escaping uke's lungs percussively)
    Not to be forgotten, ashi-variant uchi-mata is a worthy addition to the list. So many headlocks and neck-and-shoulder (standing kesa-gatami style triangles) end with a torque/twist and a thigh-lift. It's almost instinctive on the thrower's part. Not usually as pretty as the other hip throws, but effective and relatively safe.
    Also had to laugh when Higashi Sensei questioned why we teach o-soto-gari first! Here are the reasons I can come up with:
    * "Well duh... cause that's how my sensei taught me!"
    * Concussion-generator-gari is difficult to master, hard to take a fall from, and way more dangerous than kane-basami, so if a student comes back after their first class, they're a "keeper."
    * It's GREAT self-defense tool, and an easy concept to understand, so if they never come back, at least they learned a life-skill.
    * What would you rather teach first, hiza-guruma? That's for their second class.
    -best regards

  • @asianroy7510
    @asianroy7510 Před 2 lety

    This was so good. Thanks so much!!!!

  • @timogle4840
    @timogle4840 Před 3 lety +26

    This one was a lot of fun. Great guest. I remember, back in my 20's, the flying scissor takedown was my best opener. Nobody outside of Judo had ever seen anything like it, and being airborne while executing it made it so fast and flashy that it was a real ego-boost. The only time it failed for me was when facing a fast TKD guy, who shuffled back fast enough to completely avoid being there when my legs clipped. It instead turned into a belly flop. We both had a good laugh.

    • @spiritualanarchist8162
      @spiritualanarchist8162 Před 2 lety +3

      Haha. Yes so true ! I had the same experience. I was trained at a Dojo that did both Karate and Judo/jiu jitsu in the 90thies We did a lot of sparring with different other martial art schools. I remember sparring with a TKD guy, so i was off right away doing the scissor, then missing itand being kicked in the head while in mid air 😅TKD has a bad reputation these days, but being kicked in the head is no joke.

  • @kvas6255
    @kvas6255 Před 3 lety +7

    I remember when I did MMA Everybody knew me as the double leg kid, back then I was a big guy so it was perfect for me. It was kinda like my signature move.

  • @amindchira
    @amindchira Před 3 lety

    Superb content, thanks for sharing to us.

  • @kiang8269
    @kiang8269 Před 3 lety +1

    Really cool to hear the discussions. Ankle pick is actually my favourite especially on bigger players. But to get over the distance a classic combo is to do Ko Uchi Gari (minor inner sweep) or even O Uchi Gari (as seen in this vid) and as they go to lift their leg out the way, stick to it and feed their ankle into your hand. I like it because a lot of off balancing can be super hard but pull them towards you to the right or left and they 99% WILL post a leg forward.

  • @ryanliu6694
    @ryanliu6694 Před 3 lety +120

    Fun fact: none of y'all have watched the entire video yet. It hasn't been long enough.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +13

      😂😂😂

    • @pierrereed843
      @pierrereed843 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SenseiSeth he's right

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 Před 3 lety +2

      me rewatching it for the 7th time just to see these two talking to each other be like: try me.

    • @filipferencak2717
      @filipferencak2717 Před 2 lety +2

      I've done so multiple times, it's extremely useful for a beginner like me

  • @SPONGEY7244
    @SPONGEY7244 Před 3 lety +4

    As someone who’s at a very beginner stage with grappling and takedowns, 15 seconds in I already love this video

  • @jamespearo7106
    @jamespearo7106 Před 3 lety

    Awesome video and chemistry between you both. Oss, sawade Krap 🙏

  • @mikeyork3093
    @mikeyork3093 Před 2 lety

    Great video guys!

  • @ericconyers8972
    @ericconyers8972 Před 3 lety +5

    Did I miss arm drag? Not really a throw but it is my favorite deescalation technique. Nobody hits the floor but you have great control when you are done.
    I work with sick people who are sometime confused. No throwing allowed. Arm drag is perfect.

  • @leavemealoneyouprick
    @leavemealoneyouprick Před 3 lety +87

    stupidly i tried the scissor throw in a fight when i was REALLY drunk and it didnt end well... just dont do it lads...

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +9

      Ouuuuch

    • @JLuck88
      @JLuck88 Před 3 lety +22

      Also, don't get into drunk fights.

    • @oneguy7202
      @oneguy7202 Před 3 lety +2

      U are a brave lad

    • @candlemaker9103
      @candlemaker9103 Před 3 lety +1

      yikes, as a former bouncer I can say trying judo or BJJ, in a bar fight is never a good idea.

    • @oneguy7202
      @oneguy7202 Před 3 lety +1

      @@candlemaker9103 what u suggest?

  • @thebobbytytesvarrietyhour4168

    As a not-grappler teaching other not grapplers to grapple, I think the outside reap is the first technique to learn party because it feels so safe. It's really easy to be in complete control of the momentum of the situation through out all of the execution. Love the video and the colab.

  • @tedcoulter5782
    @tedcoulter5782 Před 3 lety

    Love this thanks guys

  • @captencollin8753
    @captencollin8753 Před 3 lety +24

    I watched this whole video for an explanation on why the Uchimata isn’t in this discussion.

    • @sheeparebillygoats7221
      @sheeparebillygoats7221 Před 3 lety +2

      Man, uchi mata is super high % no gi... as far as throws it's my # 3 highest %. Behind harai goshi being # 1, seoi nagi being #2

    • @carritohmc
      @carritohmc Před 3 lety +1

      It's so damn hard though, I don't know, maybe I have a mental block, although when pulled off it's beautiful.

    • @MaxLohMusic
      @MaxLohMusic Před 3 lety +1

      @@carritohmc It's almost impossible against someone who's a lot taller than you

    • @martinlacay
      @martinlacay Před 2 lety

      Sumi gaeshi is high percentage and plenty of grips even in no gi

  • @enmanueltejeda2755
    @enmanueltejeda2755 Před 3 lety +16

    I actually really like the wrestling takedowns I think those are my favorite types

    • @yeetfeet1878
      @yeetfeet1878 Před 3 lety +1

      I wrestle soon to start karate and BJJ. I think wrestling takedowns are cool.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +4

      Fair!

    • @yeetfeet1878
      @yeetfeet1878 Před 3 lety +2

      @Andrew Onymous you really don’t have any idea about what you are talking about do you.

    • @yeetfeet1878
      @yeetfeet1878 Před 3 lety +2

      @Andrew Onymous I’m not mad I’m just saying it’s called a gi and Judo and wrestling have different techniques I know because one of my friends does judo and I wrestle.

    • @yeetfeet1878
      @yeetfeet1878 Před 3 lety +1

      @Andrew Onymous I don’t do Greco Roman I do Folkstyle. (middle school wrestling)

  • @JCKOCLUBS
    @JCKOCLUBS Před 3 lety

    Damn I really enjoy these videos. Well made, especially with a nice guest

  • @FreebyrdFayelanx
    @FreebyrdFayelanx Před 3 lety

    Fascinating. I have done TKD over the years and a little Judo and LOVVVVVE it.

  • @skycow3208
    @skycow3208 Před 3 lety +7

    Seth I gotta give you some props you are super humble and you show footage maybe where you didn’t do as good respect 👍👏🥋

  • @jeffa.8976
    @jeffa.8976 Před 3 lety +3

    For me a single leg to some kind of trip/sweep always worked amazing. I'm usually shorter than most of my opponents. Once I pick up the leg their is so much I can do with it, usually just a step through drive puts them down but if they counter that I'm ready for a sweep, or to even slide my hands to the ankle and just sprint forward while throwing his foot above my head if I have enough room. I was never a double leg guy. I had good success with a single leg and if i didn't get the guy down I was typically still standing where as a failed double leg seems to put you in a bad spot more often. Sure you may eat a strike or two while working the single leg but if you are cautious, good and fast you will get it 75% of the time and if the guy is committing to his strikes you will have an even better chance. If you are working hard you won't give him much time to get off any good strikes anyway. I don't have the best fight/grappling record, I won a couple medals though, no traditional wrestling experience but I was able to take down university team wrestlers and some of the best pro top (3 mma) guys in Canada in lower weight classes 145 - 135 with single leg variations. I was walking around at 155-180, depends on the time, and I have used single legs to take down 260 pound juice monkey's that were beginner grapplers or UFC level MMA guys in my own weight class. It always worked for me in training, fighting, grappling and even self defense situations. In regards to Judo take downs they work very well if you don't know the guy is a judoka. My #1 training partner back in the day who was a high level mma pro started doing a lot of Judo, but I knew it and knew he was going to be trying it so I kept my hips away from him but if you don't know ya you are going down hard.

  • @ethanbutland4236
    @ethanbutland4236 Před 2 lety

    This was so fun to watch!!

  • @schenksteven1
    @schenksteven1 Před rokem +2

    Some of the effectiveness of these takedowns is greatly effected by body type. For example, the ankle pick is typically done by someone with a longer frame, a double leg is more often done by someone with a lot of explosive power and athleticism.

  • @haydenford9587
    @haydenford9587 Před 3 lety +22

    what about the arm drag

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +1

      I cut it

    • @Jerry-fr4xo
      @Jerry-fr4xo Před 3 lety

      @Andrew Onymous ikr easily S tier, looks cool, almost 0 risk and effective against all

  • @davemeads859
    @davemeads859 Před 3 lety

    So glad I've stumbled across your channel awesome content have been bringing all day will definitely be subscribing thanks for all outstanding uploads big shout out from Aus 🇦🇺

  • @BurnySanders
    @BurnySanders Před 3 lety

    Awesome content, subbed to both

  • @fireeaglefitnessmartialart935

    Single leg, head n arm throw, and front headlock were my shit in wrestling. I also love the monkey flip. Was never really good at double legs and even worse at ankle picks.

    • @markpagtama7954
      @markpagtama7954 Před 3 lety

      Single leg master racee. You can turn it to other things too.

  • @ElDrHouse2010
    @ElDrHouse2010 Před 3 lety +12

    What an honest list without S.
    Everything has counter play.

  • @Tobby4063
    @Tobby4063 Před 3 lety

    Cool video. Foot sweeps have to be the coolest looking takedowns.

  • @newcenturyproductions5972

    Dope ass list and good move using a cxdy beat as the intro 🔥🔥

  • @paragon1782
    @paragon1782 Před 3 lety +50

    Damn I was curious about the uchimata. How you gonna skip that one man

    • @ffbear8078
      @ffbear8078 Před 3 lety +10

      They really skipped uchi mata and the classic tai otoshi

    • @otxoawolf9054
      @otxoawolf9054 Před 3 lety

      That's one that surprised me. It's one of my favorites.

    • @MaxLohMusic
      @MaxLohMusic Před 3 lety +1

      There's probably literally 2 examples of a short person scoring uchimata against a tall person in the Olympics. S tier coolness... but sucks if you're against someone taller

    • @lendondain1
      @lendondain1 Před 3 lety

      I thought they were going to sneak makikomi under koshi garuma, but nope. They left out my favorite throw.

    • @lendondain1
      @lendondain1 Před 3 lety

      @@ffbear8078 Yeah, those are two big ones that shouldn't have been skipped.

  • @carthagegaming5545
    @carthagegaming5545 Před 3 lety +14

    Single leg takedown not cool:
    Daniel Cormier wants to know your location.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +3

      Haha that’s a high crotch, does that count??

    • @erasylnash6697
      @erasylnash6697 Před 3 lety

      @@SenseiSeth high crotch is a head outside single, so it counts

    • @kallepikku4991
      @kallepikku4991 Před 3 lety +1

      He means Sakuraba.

    • @JUSTINTRIPjl
      @JUSTINTRIPjl Před 3 lety +1

      @@erasylnash6697 nah high crotch and singles are different. Single requires a step to the outside. High crotch in an inside step.

  • @BJMifsud
    @BJMifsud Před 3 lety

    Awesome video guys

  • @chandlerprice5622
    @chandlerprice5622 Před 3 lety +1

    Been a huge fan of this guy for a long time and you as well. Haven’t been this excited for a crossover since you and icy mike first linked up.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +1

      Got a couple more to come!! Thank you 🙏🙏

  • @preettygoood7774
    @preettygoood7774 Před 3 lety +3

    I used to wrestle in highschool but I was crap at it because I was young and had no idea what I was doing.

  • @mariogegaj2060
    @mariogegaj2060 Před 3 lety +3

    we want part 2 hehe like tai otoshi harai goshi tani otoshi sumi gaeshi firemans carry...

  • @Tentacl
    @Tentacl Před 3 lety

    Hey, it's the guy who beat Bazooka Joe in that virtual championship! Subbed XD
    Already follow Shintaro, and while I have to agree double legs have issues, against people without training they are really, really practical.

  • @dikbashli
    @dikbashli Před rokem +1

    that video was very interesting and funny, especially the part about ankle picks, 7:23 lmao

  • @Burtonracingboard6
    @Burtonracingboard6 Před 3 lety +15

    It’s the League of Legends ranking system for me

  • @rns7426
    @rns7426 Před 3 lety +24

    Tomoe movie friendly?
    That’s the move of CPT James T Kirk of the USS Enterprise!!!!!!

  • @uberdonkey9721
    @uberdonkey9721 Před rokem

    Lol, glad you brought someone in. I was thinking, what do you know about take-downs?! Ah ah. Nice vid, throws are cool.

  • @IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh
    @IbrahimKhalil-bt9yh Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome seeing you looking into judo, could you cover some grip fighting from judo? I think this would be good with hikite techniques from karate. And I hope you get time to meet a ninjutsu practitioner

  • @xaviersfinance2664
    @xaviersfinance2664 Před 3 lety +36

    Hey Seth, I have UFC 4 on ps4. Do you want me to make you a character on the game?

  • @tusccountyjiujitsu
    @tusccountyjiujitsu Před 3 lety +7

    Uchi Mata is one I use quite a bit because even if it fails it sets up the ankle pick or knee pick.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +3

      Back up plans are key!

    • @casparbosch5615
      @casparbosch5615 Před 3 lety +1

      it's very high risk high reward though.

    • @alLEDP
      @alLEDP Před 3 lety

      One of the harder Judo throws to learn one leg up good Kuzushi. Coolness factor: epic. Risk. High. Practicality. Yeah if you can do side kicks then you can also do uchimata but everyone knows side kicks dont work. I have to go with C Tiet with uchi-mata 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @tusccountyjiujitsu
      @tusccountyjiujitsu Před 3 lety

      @@casparbosch5615 absolutely. Every throw/takedown has risk, some more than others. It comes down to the amount of time you have put into the takedown you are attempting. For me its decades which is more than a lot of people so the risk for me to do this throw combo is less than a white belt doing a Ouchi or Ogoshi. Most Judoka have that one throw that they really specialize in just like a lot of JiuJitsuka have that one position or submission they specialize in, mine is Uchi Mata and I can show plenty of follow ups off failed attempts, ankle pick, knee pick, kouchi gari. The key is pick a throw and then have plenty of combos off it because after about 6 months one throw attempt won't be enough it will have to be fakes and combos.

    • @casparbosch5615
      @casparbosch5615 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tusccountyjiujitsu uchi mata is a very nice throw for that for sure, specially since it can be done woth sleeve and lapel grip. I'm still working on it though, but now with corona I haven't been able to improve much... I like seoi and sode as well, since they work off of 1 grip.

  • @darnellarocca6484
    @darnellarocca6484 Před 3 lety +1

    Love the foot sweep. I was just doing that in my class last week. Still practicing it :)

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety

      Ayee! Big foot sweep video coming!

  • @thepracticaldad
    @thepracticaldad Před rokem

    As a BJJ white belt who currently doesn't know S about F, this is a fantastic video. Demos move so fast at the club and I often struggle to keep up in terms of the names, techniques, defenses, etc. This is a great break down. Thanks fellas.

  • @tomhoedt6467
    @tomhoedt6467 Před 3 lety +5

    When I saw the thumb nail I almost thought that was Han from Fast and Furious

  • @zxc1972
    @zxc1972 Před 3 lety +27

    Best takedown:
    So you're a martial artists.
    Yeah, I do Taekwondo.
    That's nice. And does that help you with your martial art?

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +10

      You’re going to see that line in one of my next videos. That’s gold

    • @zxc1972
      @zxc1972 Před 3 lety

      @@SenseiSeth Hehe, that's made my day. Well, let's face it, my 2021 so far!

  • @yeetfeet1878
    @yeetfeet1878 Před 3 lety

    Another great tier list completely agree!

  • @onnoquinten2944
    @onnoquinten2944 Před 2 lety

    the ankle pick where you drop down and press your shoulder below the knee is so good... just really good, like from a scrambling position to someone trying to stand up.. it's great.. just need to be quick with it

  • @christianmccall4542
    @christianmccall4542 Před 3 lety +3

    Just subscribed to shintaro since he seems like a really cool guy

  • @stephendecelle329
    @stephendecelle329 Před 3 lety +11

    Where’s the Imanari Roll at!?

  • @timsteele6825
    @timsteele6825 Před 2 lety

    Really nice video guys. Wondering your thoughts on tai otoshi. Surprised that one didn't make the list since it's ubiquitous in karate.

  • @hoppy760
    @hoppy760 Před 2 lety

    This was interesting. My favs for a street situation: Blast double, double, single, duck under to the back.

  • @j.kino.nutrition
    @j.kino.nutrition Před 3 lety +12

    Coming from a wrestler, the double leg could become an S(in my opinion) because it can be one of the hardest takedowns to defend, as well as(mentioned in the video) if you just transition from a traditional double to a blast double, the guillotine risk is almost zero

    • @BuildinWings
      @BuildinWings Před 2 lety

      Blasting on concrete or pavement... Dude they're your knees but I feel like you haven't tried a blast takedown off a mat before?

    • @j.kino.nutrition
      @j.kino.nutrition Před 2 lety +1

      @@BuildinWings i don't hit my knees on a blast

    • @BuildinWings
      @BuildinWings Před 2 lety

      @@j.kino.nutrition
      Then frankly you aren't "blasting" in a way that you think you are.

    • @j.kino.nutrition
      @j.kino.nutrition Před 2 lety

      @@BuildinWings if it works it works

    • @hungryorphan5975
      @hungryorphan5975 Před rokem

      @@BuildinWings literally just look at mma blast doubles you arent hitting your knees

  • @jestersl1573
    @jestersl1573 Před 3 lety +4

    Hey Seth, haven’t been here in a while!

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety

      What’s up!!

    • @jestersl1573
      @jestersl1573 Před 3 lety

      @Seth-Not Much, I’ve been watching a lot of Bruce Lee and came back! No Regerts!

  • @onerider808
    @onerider808 Před 2 lety

    Great episode. You’re kicking...the target.

  • @TheFedoraSniper
    @TheFedoraSniper Před 2 lety +1

    A drop tai otoshi is certainly among my favorites for gi training. Snap downs to ankle picks are satisfying as hell, as well as single to double leg. Also, if you’re getting guillotined on your doubles, you’re not controlling their legs as you fall. You move them across after you begin falling, in a way that would land you in side control. If you’re across their body, they won’t finish a guillotine, and you’re less likely to land on your own head.

  • @waikrujudovic
    @waikrujudovic Před 3 lety +8

    Shintaro’s hair is “ELVIS & Kenny POWERS LOVE CHILD” i am quite jealous. I am bald.

    • @waikrujudovic
      @waikrujudovic Před 3 lety

      Mid 70s Elvis to be clear .... the white Gi is very Vagas Elvis’ conquistador jump suit like in this video.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +3

      His hair is beautiful

    • @waikrujudovic
      @waikrujudovic Před 3 lety

      @@SenseiSeth it really is. Looks like black silk

    • @debbieaguilar5498
      @debbieaguilar5498 Před 3 lety

      Shintaro is hot!

    • @onerider808
      @onerider808 Před 2 lety

      Lmfao. Embrace your baldness, brother. It’s the style for grapplers. Any hair longer than four inches is gonna get grabbed in a fight anyway.

  • @blickluke
    @blickluke Před 3 lety +26

    Best take down? Just ask Michael Bidping
    S tier: Left Hook

  • @eclipsewrecker
    @eclipsewrecker Před 3 lety +2

    It’s good to have experience with many different takedown concepts....I think that’s one reason wrestlers are so dominant in scrambles.
    Seems like the drop/snatch single should be S-tier seeing how it’s almost a universal counter to a throw.
    Blast double vs double.

  • @OneShotStop229
    @OneShotStop229 Před 3 lety

    Just gonna leave out Harai ogoshi?? I am commenting preemptively, though. I just found this channel the other day, and I really love it. Great content. Cheers!

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety

      Yea we had to leave a couple out. Thanks!!

  • @xaviersfinance2664
    @xaviersfinance2664 Před 3 lety +5

    Suplex is at 15:00 ;)

  • @dylanvu_actual5050
    @dylanvu_actual5050 Před 3 lety +4

    No Uchi Mata? Isn’t it a turn throw where you sweep someones thigh with your thigh?

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  Před 3 lety +2

      Missed a couple good ones I’m sure!

    • @douglasmacneil4474
      @douglasmacneil4474 Před 3 lety +2

      Uchi Mata is fun!

    • @vittocrazi
      @vittocrazi Před 3 lety +2

      @@SenseiSeth well, there are dozens of techniques in the official syllabus. so its kind of expected to leave some good ones behind (looking at you, harai goshi)

  • @nikolaosmandamandiotis8970

    Hi there, best of wishes to you guys! Very good video and the fact that you keep this nice and playful.
    I have something to add up for the techniques you already referred to , I really believe that foot sweep might really be an S for self defence, you really don't need to do much so it doesn't need too much effort , you don't sacrifice much in relation to other techniques (even the balance thing is too breef) , it can pin an opponents mobility out of fear of falling when someone defend it, you don't need too much body dedication to do it( you just need 2 connections the foot and an arm to pull), you can do it from a distance so a thinner more weak dude can do it with no fear of him getting grabbed and you throw your enemy streight to side mount for pinning striking or finishing your opponent.
    In ancient Greek pankration they used it as an opening move along with front kick, we can see this in statues etc.
    What's shintaro's opinion?

  • @letsgojake.4078
    @letsgojake.4078 Před 3 lety

    This gave me cool stuff to try for shadow wrestling.