The Submission Tier List.... Which BJJ Subs Work The Best??
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 27. 05. 2024
- Jordan Preisinger (Jordan Teaches Jiujitsu), Uke Mike and Joey Boretski discuss a variety of topics about BJJ. This is a fun and engaging conversation sure to keep you listening!
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:21 Americana
4:00 Anaconda
05:34 Arm in guillotine
09:46 X-martial
10:36 Arm out guillotine
11:53 Arm triangle
14:40 Armbar
16:09 Groin stretch
18:26 Nogi baseball bat choke
21:58 Bicep slicer
23:28 Body triangle squeeze
26:39 Boston crab
28:10 Jordan will be king of the WWE
30:03 Bow and arrow choke
30:54 Gi brabo choke
33:00 The lads compare sizes...
35:18 The buggy choke
38:51 Bulldog choke
40:52 Calf slicer
42:20 Can opener
44:49 Trash compactor / Camel crusher / kesa CRUSH
46:47 Clock choke
48:33 Cross collar choke
50:45 Foot lock from the back
53:03 Tarikoplata
53:36 D'arce
54:41 Electric chair
56:26 Estima lock
57:22 Gi Ezekiel
58:03 Gogo plata
58:45 Heel hook
59:14 Kimura
1:00:12 Knee on belly pressure sub
1:00:53 kneebar
01:02:05 scissor choke
01:03:31 loop choke
01:04:13 Mir lock
01:04:41 North south choke
01:06:07 paper cutter choke
01:07:09 Peruvian neck tie
01:08:23 Rear naked choke
01:08:33 Choking out animals & kangaroo dies by RNC
01:10:41 straight ankle lock
01:12:30 Suloev stretch kneebar
01:14:23 Toe hold
01:14:58 Triangle
01:16:13 Twister
01:17:09 Von flu choke
01:18:01 Wrist lock
01:19:28 Outro
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Canât wait to base my entire game around this video
Results may vary depending on body type haha. I need to make a BJJ style for different body types video soon.
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu OMG I hope you do. Ill watch the crap out of that
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu yes pls Iâm 6.1 and lanky arms and legs. Would love to know how to utlusise these more
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu and everyone has differnt body mechanics for a litany of reasons. You guys identified a few which was really cool and helps to understand moves better. Great podcast!
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu cool ! can't wait
*Final Conclusion*
*S*
Arm triangle
Arm bar
Bow and Arrow choke (Gi)
Heel hook
Rear naked choke
Triangle choke (potential S, iconic but body type issues)
*A*
Arm in guillotine
Calf slicer
Dâarce choke
Kimura (potential S if you include the great grip and tool)
Kneebar
Loop choke
Twister (hard to set up, A because of good submission and badass submission)
Von Flu choke (great but situational)
Wrist lock (also situational)
*B*
Anaconda (moved from C to B though)
Americana
Guillotine
Buggy choke
Omoplata (potential A, hard to finish but good utility)
Toe hold (overshadowed by kneebar)
*C*
Groin stretch/banana split
Bulldog choke
Cross collar choke
Paper cutter choke
Straight ankle lock (overshadowed by heel hook)
*D*
Bicep slicer
Body triangle (good as control, submission works depending on body type)
Gi Brabo choke
Kesa crush
Clock choke
Tarikoplata
Electric chair
Estima lock
Gi ezekiel
Gogoplata
Knee on belly (D-)
Scissor lock (D+)
Lockdown
Mir lock
North south choke
Peruvian necktie
Suloev stretch kneebar
TP (No idea what it is, some kind of triangle)
*F*
Baseball bat choke
Boston Crab
Can opener
Foot lock from back
Thank you so much for this! Looking back at this I would maybe make a few small changes. I'll make a slightly modified list and post it.
Same here, when i see it layed out like that, Iâd change a few things too, some of the pics were hard to see when we were looking at them.
You are doing God's work.
Greatly appreciate the list. I am a 1 year in white belt. Iâve been told to focus and attack only threeish submissions for the next year to really improve my basics of submissions while nearly 90% of the time defending:). What three would you recommend I focus on?
I am 5 10, 40 year old with slightly long arms and average leg length. Thanks in advance.
@@rorypine7018 what positions do you normally find yourself in?
Love how you brought the crew on for this one! Uke Mike is always fun to listen to
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Nogi/ MMA/ Luta Livre
S
Arm triangle 11:53
Arm bar 14:40
Heel hook 58:45
Rear naked choke 01:08:23
Triangle choke (potential S, iconic but body type issues) 01:14:58
A
Arm in guillotine 5:34
Calf slicer 40:52
Dâarce choke/ Brabo choke 53:36
Kimura (potential S if you include the great grip and tool) 59:14
Kneebar 1:00:53
Loop choke 01:03:31
Twister (hard to set up, A because of good submission and badass submission) 01:16:13
Von Flu choke 01:17:09
B
Anaconda 4:00
Americana 1:21
Arm out guillotine 10:36
Buggy choke 35:18
Omoplata
C
Groin stretch/banana split 16:09
Bulldog choke
Cross collar choke
Paper cutter choke
Straight ankle lock (overshadowed by heel hook)
D
Bicep slicer 21:58
Body triangle (good as control, submission works depending on body type) 23:28
Kesa crush
Clock choke
Tarikoplata 53:03
Electric chair
Estima lock
Gogoplata 58:03
Knee on belly (D-)
Scissor lock (D+)
Lockdown
Mir lock 01:04:13
North south choke
Peruvian necktie 01:07:09
Suloev stretch kneebar
TP (No idea what it is, some kind of triangle)
F
Baseball bat choke
Boston Crab 26:39
Can opener
Foot lock from back
Legend
This is amazing! Thank you for this episode to all you guys!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This video helped a lot to understand your ratings on the measurements of techniques themselves and not putting too much effort into putting them in fruition. Thanks for changing my attitude towards some of the techniques. Will definitely use it on the mat. Oss! đ€
Tarikoplata is A-Tier for me. Being smaller than most people I roll with, I donât always have the strength to break their kimura defense. Tarikoplata brings my legs into the equation.
That's really interesting. I need to spend so more time with them. Maybe I gave up too soon making them a part of my game. Glad you're having success with them đ
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu it is especially useful when folks hunker down to resist the kimura. Thatâs actually what I want. I usually get them from a top side (dorsal) kimura, but they can be locked up from bottom position (Tarik Hopstock gets them from there often). Gi friction makes them so brutal. Tarik has some good videos on his CZcams channel.
I agree on the Tarikoplata, definately a strong set up both nogi and gi, for those who are stubborn with the kimura defence.
Btw it also works well from the Choi-bar setup entry.
@@kristofferh2312 yes! Another great entry.
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu You should definitely! You also have Gordon doing it in some competition...Tarikoplata takes strength out of kimura. Works amazing when you have kimura grip and opponent starts turning to turtle, very easy to get from that position.
Brilliant video, thank you Jordan. I always struggle to pick which technique to learn next, now it would be a lot easier
Happy to help! Glad you enjoyed it đ
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Im only 14 sessions in to No Gi training and studying this is UNBELIEVABLY helpful!!
Thanks Guys đ€đ€
Was waiting for this! Thanks guys!
Hope it's worth the wait!! đđ
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holy cow! an hour plus of submission ranking and reviews
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For the kesa move, it's a chest compression. You crush their chest and they can't breathe. I do it, but I also grab the leg so maybe there are variations.
Oh interesting, that makes sense now. I really enjoy hitting them. Just feels good lol
Agreed. Itâs like drowning.
I can confirm. Judokas tend to be good at this.
You are essentially not allowing them to expand their thorax. You need those pressure changes to breathe. So done correctly, the opponent can't breathe in or out.
Itâs also called a scarfhold
For me (blue belt), high elbow arm-out guillotine is S tier. I'm a lot smaller than most of the people I roll with, which ends up being a good thing for this style of guillotine: I'm quick enough and have small enough arms to get all the way around the head quickly, and my thin arms/sharp forearms make it an instant tap if I get it fully locked in. It's my #1 submission in nogi by a lot.
I feel like you get better leverage with guillotine with a figure four lock on the neck
This is super cool. As an avid jits guy and gamer, I love this tier list format!
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Agreed. Trying to find the meta.
Love this content! Good work Jordan
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Awesome video!
As someone who is starting to map out his A game I always wondered how each submissionâs functional use rank amongst eachother
jordan is so funny in this conversation, idk why but i feel like he is just always laughing and it starts making me laugh because
Haha I was having a great time!
Great topic!
lovely Podcast! loved this video more than I imagined hehe great stuff as always! ooos!!
Thanks !
Dude I feel exactly the same with the body triangle. No one wants to tap to it, and I think "I don't want to rupture this guys spleen or something......" great video.
Haha people are nuts
I literally tried to hold out as long as i could, i was 155 and shredded so I thought i could flex enough to defend but man for about 20 min i thought Iâd be shittin blood lol
Had been waiting for this video ever since Jordan mentioned the idea in one of his previous videos
What a great idea for a video. Ive seen so many lists but none about bjj
Thank you! We had a tonne of fun doing it.
The "kesagatame neck crank" is called a chest compressor. You need to hold the suffocation for like 30 seconds for them to tap
Great video!
Great video! Check out Josh Barnettâs can opener video though. He stacks em up before grabbing the head, then rocks back with head controlled. Makes it way harder to defend than just reaching for their head and trying to use the strength of your arms to crunch their head up.
This was great. Need a take down tier list next!
Buggy choke is D tier for me. It's a sick submission that catches a lot of people off guard but it becomes pretty low percentage when people are wise to it. That and the fact it comes from a bad position for you and you need very good mobility to pull it off successfully
Agree, I personally cannot place anything that is so dependent on physical attribute higher than D, mayyyybe low C. You can show anyone an RNC and most can get an arm around a neck and squeeze to finish. Probably like high 90% of people can do it.
But a buggy? How many can set them up? Much less finish them like you said.
Exactly! Just stick a knee/elbow in the guts and youâre safe
"BJJ gets rid of the ego", Jordan at 13:00, "hold my beer".
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Alex as the 'Villian' of your roll for moneyv ideo was a really cool aspect of it. He is very skilled and very fit, and it made me think of your previous videos with him where he made you perform well.
Love the longer videos
Happy to hear that đ
Awesome thanks man!
Hey awesome show guys, keep it up. Can you put a link in the description for the discord?
Great spend time !
Coach can you make more escapes video's because everybody focus on submission but the escapes its the most important for beginners.
Thanks for your work !
Ya definitely. Ive got something really good planned for that.
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One of my seniors used to setup the nogi baseball bat choke from side control but instead of going for the choke, they'd go for the sternum crusher with their elbow. Most painful submission I've ever felt.
Yeah thats the Fishermans Basket. It's old school catch wrestling. The idea is every time you breathe out they squeeze down on the sub and it stops you breathing in. It is painful, but its basically a choke.
I like the no gi baseball from top side control. Even if they defend you can usually take their back. I've also occassionally used it as a guard pass when I find myself getting stuck in a high guard.
I love this breakdown a lot! A lot of good insight for a white belt like myself. Also, where can I find a link to the Discord server?
DOPE Video!
Very interesting pov thanks
So hype for this one, I called it!
Thanks for supporting the podcast!
I wanna see a video like this for guard passes or takedowns!!
âIâd feel really bad if my body triangle gave someone a colostomy bag, Iâd probably stop doing it.â đ Jesus Christ I hope so!
Haha would make for a great shirt to both confuse and scare people
I just remember how badly it hurt, like shit your guts out hurt! Lol
My gym calls the kesa sub scarf holds or mothers milk. They teach it as chest compression but it's mostly taught when they're talking about generating pressure from that position.
Armbar and Twister above Anaconda, Darce? Im rioting lol
Haha I just love twisters so much â€ïž
Weâre rebels đ€© lol
So much good content I couldn't decide what to comment on!
If you watch IJF someone gets slept nearly every tournament with the clock choke. The ruleset incentivizes turtling, so that helps.
Ya I think that's why it's seen in judo but rarely high level BJJ. People won't stay turtled long enough to get the grip.
Kesa gatame aka scarfold is probably my top submission other than the arm triangle. But I am a 250lb purple belt lol
Man i hate getting caught in those with big dudes lol
Oww I do love a good tire list
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I use the baseball choke from side control / knee on belly. No gi version I use the clap choke. Gi version I use the opponents lapel like the gi brabo choke - no pressure on the fingers at all so you can dial it to 11. Very sneaky as well.
Got so hyped watching triangle get S tier, a move being iconic definitely feels important to get the highest ranking. So much BJJ history and culture in the top tier of moves
I mean it has to be. There's a world of difference between playing in someone's guard that can triangle vs someone that doesn't
45:00 scarf choke from kesa gatami
Or the soul crusher if you grab under their closet leg and squeeze that also
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For me the no gi baseball choke is way better. As a relatively fresh blue belt I have tapped whites, blues and even purple belts with it. I've been pretty close with a black belt who defended well and got saved by the bell, but to his defense he basically gave me side mount to work from there.
For me it is a sneaky submission I get from top side or from bottom half guard as they pass my guard. For me it is probably B tier.
Nice man I'm glad you're having some success with it. Sometimes what I consider to be niche submissions, work really good for certain people. It's definitely a cool sub!
I think if you put in the hours, any sub could be super successful!
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu Thanks man! So cool to get replies from the creator. Love your content!
@@uke_mike You are probably right. I suppose it's good to have a few rare subs you have really mastered in addition to the more common ones so you can surprise your opponent in competition and they won't know what caught them đ
Agreed on Arm Triangle, Arm Bar, Bow and Arrow, RNC, and Heel Hook. That said, a friend recently won the para Abu Dhabi with a paper-cutter choke against the the guy who had been winning it for many years. I finish at least 3 or 4 folks a week with it myself. I will tell you that the big mistake is thinking the second grip has to be on the neck - I love to do it right over their defending hand and push their hand into their neck... or if I don't like them, right on their jaw line which has the Khabib-choking-Connor thing going on for the blood choke finish (and of course is a nasty crank). As for setting it up... it is usually there all day when you transitioning from one-side to the other in side-control by way of North-South or set it up from North South proper. When they defend the North-South paper-cutter entry effectively they usually give up an North-South choke too.
Surprised at the clock choke being F. I am a whitebelt belt though đ but I hit it often on blue belts. I like it because Iâve found it easy to transition to a bow and arrow from it since itâs the same grip and usually theyâre panicking about being choked so they move out of turtle and I pull them towards me. Really enjoyed the tier list!
Thank you! Maybe I just need to spend more time with them. Glad you're having success with them though đ
Yeah, it is super common to get in judo. Can you trap their far hand in turtle it is really hard to defend
I need to find your video about finishing Head and arm triangle as i get to that position often but for some reason with smaller guys without thick neck i just cant finish it
I'll make a new one soon too. I want to make a lot more instructionals.
Do you already wiggle back and forth with your shoulder and try to pull your arm in deeper?
Jordan with your point on ankle locks, you would have to put armbars in the same category. People let their arm break/hyper extend to get a late escape and keep going
That's true but I think that's moreso in high level comp. Most tournaments people are more reasonable with their elbows rather than their ankles I've found at least.
Id argue the arm is way bigger than the ankle which helps with leverage maybe? But I do get more ankle locks then armbars so I dunno its a good argument to have
Apparently as one of your few BB viewers, it was interesting to see some of the differences in opinion about some of these moves. It just goes to show how personal games can be.
I would rate the Kimura and The Amazing (now called the Tarikoplata) as Superior. Professor Jeremy Arel did a video on this around 10 years ago. I would rate the mounted armbar as superior but the fall back armbar as a C/D.
I canât hit arm in guillotines to save my life, even after watching your instructional on it.
I would also rate the Gi Peruvian Necktie as superior. I agree no gi is low percentage.
Another high percentage sub which I donât think was on the list is the Texas Cloverleaf.
Keep up the good work!
as someone with long arms i LOVE the ezekiel choke. it was my first ever sub
I have tapped so many higher belts with the baseball bat choke. Wow
I think Iâve only ever had 3 ppl try it 3.5 years
The Bravo choke. Look into it bro
I'm a blue belt and started using Americana's again for that first time since early white belt about 2 months ago. I've had a high success rate finishing with it in my rolling and a couple of comps. If you don't telegraph it then I have found you can hit it quick and people just don't expect it.
If you're one of the heaviest dudes in you entire gym, that don'r count
@@glxblt-sd1ze I'm 74kg (compete at lightweight) and I'm 5"8 my man, so not even kinda big đ
@@bespokeregent48 nice job man, keep working
@@glxblt-sd1ze Thanks bro đ€
Kinda happy that all my favorite submissions arent some super niche things. Arm Bar, Arm Locks, Loop Choke, Okuri Eri, Kimura and Knee Bars lol
Back body triangle âš strong long leg gang here but sadly it prevents me from working RNC and other attacks from the back so I stopped doing it
45:20 The kesa gatame submission is a wind choke. You put pressure on the opponents chest so they can't breathe. I've had success with it on smaller and same sized opponents. I've also been on the receiving end of it by judokas and it's so demoralizing being crushed.
The discussion on the body triangle squeeze is hilarious. "It feels like they might literally die" hahaha jeez..
Haha well Chewwy placed third at ADCC trials as well. A lot higher of an achievement than most coaches :)
Fun video idea
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The kesa-getame submission is the Bas Ruten special ;). It basically stops the opponent from breathing
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Great list. I do disagree strongly on just one, which is the cross-collar choke. This choke is awesome from mount, AWESOME. Super low percentage/hard from guard. But from mount... Superb. Particularly since I watched the Roger Gracie instructions on how to finish it better...
I'm not sure either about the Von Flue choke because it's so situational and your opponent has to make a special mistake for you to get it... I do agree that within that situation it's very efficient though ...
I've actually been watching a lot of Roger Gracie since making this video and I agree now. I think A tier is more fitting. There's a couple others I want to change too haha
Maybe itâs the camera angle but Jordanâs right arm looks twice the size of his left.đ
I noticed that about my left as well lol
45:24 I learned this one as 100kilos I apply it as a possible pressure tap late in rounds but a good overall way to control and get an arm
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Great video! Loved the submissions and the rating you gave them! I would suggest two things to add on your next tier list videos, you should have a tier for 'niche' submissions between D and C because most of the D tier was filled with those, where it's rare to see the opportunity but are decent finishers, but not as bad as D tier. The other thing is at the end you should do maybe a quick review of the S tier and the A tier, I thought you were going to go back to those as like a TLDR but it felt like the video cut short. Again, great content and I love your channel and the detailed takes you have on positionnal adjustments! keep it up!
Thanks man! The video actually did cut short. We had technical difficulties halfway through, then Nikki and the kids (super loud) were coming home and we had to rush đą
If this helps, the pinned comment is the tier list
This is such great content, love it! Just started my podcast on Spotify hopefully moving to CZcams soon
Thank you! What's your podcast called? I'll check it out.
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu itâs called Constant Progression. Itâs about becoming better as a human, how to impact others, and instill change! Nothin on jiu jitsu yet! Thanks for the support bro!
Great idea, Iâll be listening to this on my motorcycle or something
Do you have tutorial on Williams , Split and Rubber guard?
You talk about the body triangle squeeze from the back being a submission that works really well for you. You mentioned that the angle is important in getting the tap. Could you be more in-depth about that? Where is the ideal placement for the triangle?
Adcc does have a list of which subs have won how many matches. That's a good place to start your statistical analysis of JJ.
The barnett sub is a compression "choke". It keeps you from being able to inhale after you exhale.
Agree with the Anaconda, Iâm no expert so itâs probably a technique thing but I end up spending more energy trying to finish it compared to the other front headlock positions!
I always find the darce easier to hit than the anaconda
I've heard a lot of guys with wrestling backgrounds tend to have great success with anacondas.
Jordan is the type of guy to say, "I am thinking of joining the airforce. I have never flown a plane before but I see planes moving like berimbolos and so I odon't know I think I can do it."
Haha you're 100% right. Self belief đ
Kesa gatame chest compression has a technical name and a colloquial name: diaphragm compression choke, fat man choke. Not a neck crank or a spine crank if done right, and in fact putting excessive pressure on the neck and spine will reduce the amount of force you can push down into their chest.
The kezakatami kill system- its a possible head arm triangle or compression/crush.
Such a cool sub
Happy birthday đ
Thank you!
You should be ranking mounts and sweeps in the future
How can I join the Talk-Jitsu Discord
Baseball choke in F hurts me... I hit it basically multiple times a day, everyone knows I go for it and they still get caught. You don't lose position if you hit it from knee on belly, it is very effective and if I don't get the tap in top position I just roll for better ajustment and gets the job is done. Very rare I lose position doing it too.
Great vid, you guys missed the baratoplata though
just to add on to the rear naked choke killing animals: in Brazil we call it "mata-leĂŁo" which is like "lion-killer", so yeah lol
Can you make a tier list of takedowns please
At 44.56. it's a chest compressions. Prevents you from being able to expand the lungs when done right.
you can get an Americana from the setup for an arm triangle too
That's true. I actually love Americanas. They don't get enough love.
What about the one where you go north-south and whisper "I love you" in their ear? :)
Haha everyone's favourite. S tier for sure.
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They should smash the arm out guilliotine guy on the walls. Idk if the UFC ruleset does not allow this but I seen people do it in StreetBeefs, it was a kid that didnt even knew how to fight he wont against the Jiu Jitsu guy because he got creative & lifted him and spun & smashed his head against the wooden wall lol.
Ok. Need to listen to see where my favorites fall.
I love the palpable discomfort at 24:55 lol
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I call the trash compactor the Barnett choke, and I've hit it several times on belt levels up to brown. I weigh 260 pounds, though, so...as you mentioned...I have the weight to make it happen.
Iâm glad you said arm in guillotine is S tier. May have to fight you on arm out.
Haha let's see which guillotine style is superior in May đ
This will be great to watch, love seeing ppl cross promote and everyone wins! Really like your new content!
I had a serious mid back injury RIGHT after starting because i didnt know how to defend against a can crusher and it went from 0-110. Ive tended to have the same experience when being on the recieving wnd of a crank.
I suppose thats a training etiquette issue.
It is. I was was part of a random BJJ gym and the guys were rough. Can openers and stuff routine. No supervision from coach who is rolling too. Iâm now at a Gracie Barra and while the people are very soft compared, coach monitors rolls carefully and itâs a good environment to train in.
Pick your training partners carefully and donât be afraid to say no thanksâŠwe luckily have very very few instances like that and the ppl that do that stuff donât last long at our gym. I find talking to them and explaining that youâre getting injured, or find a gym without dickjitsu if possible, sorry you had that experience when you were so newâŠ
Jordan can you make a tier list for guards.
Thank you
Will have to make one in the future for sure đ
Trash compactor is A-tier for me. I'm a big guy, which helps, but I can hit this on guys who are bigger than me. When done properly, it's a chest compression that attacks the diaphragm and completely eliminates a person's ability to breathe. Some guys are like, "I can hold my breath for two minutes!" But the move forces all the air out of your lungs. It's brutal. But it doesn't stop there. The secret sauce is to hook a forearm bone under their elbow so that as you're squeezing, you're also applying a shoulder lock. I've had guys tap from that. And finally, I use it as part of a whole kesa gatame system that transitions between a few different attacks on their arm. The only downside is, if they defend everything, it can be tricky to transition out of the position to something else. That keeps the move out of S-tier. But honestly, if you become good at the position, it's a pin you can hold indefinitely.
I think the one before the straight ankle is scorpion death lock
as a neck crank connoisseur the can opener barely qualifies. Its a way to get a reaction from someone holding you in the guard, but basically useless if you know cranks. Its only an over extension which pulls the neck muscles and very easy to block or counter.
Proper neck cranks involve turning the head and then folding it over a fulcrum. so if you had someone in turtle and cross faced them until their chin is touching their shoulder, if they don't tap you force the head forward over the forearm you're using as a crossface.
basically if they dont tap they can lose a vertabrae. EVERYONE ALWAYS TAPS. there is not a single person I've seen 'tough it out' when a legit neck crank is applied.
Really useful for getting peoples hands up to defend from the turtle too, if you're trying to get hooks in.
As for the Josh Barnett sub over lister, I had a good long chat with Eric Paulson (ex UFC) who trained him for the fight strategy. The whole fight he used the shin pinch and his weight to make him move and carry his weight to wear him down and make him breathe hard. Right at the end he applied it because its a chest compression. Yes there is an element of a neck stretch like the can opener, but essentially it prevents you breathing.
Believe it or not its actually a choke.
Arm Triangle was the first sub I did on someone! Hence I am probably super biased to it so I have to agree it's in S. (Super casual here)