Fist Test Drive Of Our DIY Camper Truck - Is It Too Heavy??
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- čas přidán 5. 05. 2024
- In todays episode we're converting a home AC unit to work within our camper truck and then going for our very first test drive to the scales!
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Fareoh - Cloud Ten - Auta a dopravní prostředky
For the A/C
You have to add a drain for the condensation on the portion that would normally be outside the house....
I don't think you're supposed to shake compressors like this either (like when moving to a new house or when buying from a store, you have to let it sit before turning on).
@@kablink0it should be fine. The reason why you let it sit after the store is for getting the oil to travel back to the compressor. While being in the store you don't know if it was stored upside down or on its side
I was going to ask the same question. Where’s that water going to go?
i was going to comment the same thing. one of the ones i have is constantly dripping outside the other one not so much. have seen some of them with a plastic elbow fitting to attach a hose to.
Usually the compact units simply splash the water on the hot side of the heat exchangen, then exhaust it with the hot air. Also improves efficiency.
Getting rid of the condensation is only an issue for split systems.
5 ton!! And she's still a shell. Oh boy.
Fist test drive?
Literally gotta wait till the end of the video then all he does is take it outside
He fistin' to dwive that der high pwerfourmance vehicular dwevice
Ayeee yoooo
This channel has taken a dramatic turn
I guess that just means he’s gonna punch it.
Chris if possible. Consider installing a reverse camera to help with parking a little.
At least you don’t hide anything from your videos love that honesty and transparency and you’re not afraid to admit when you’re wrong
Keep the build coming
Not true. He's been warned about his solar system mistakes and refuses to fix the solar panel mounting. This is a huge waste of 💰💰💰💰
Put some fine metalic mesh below the louvers. Bugs love hot air.
You need rear helper airbags on the axle and reinforce the frame before bends
Yeah, was wondering about how that frame was doing now 😅 those trucks are not known for their strong frames.
It's rated for 17,000 so thats not neccesary. However.. once it's all said and done, helper bags would help from the camper interior from being thrown around over rough roads or speed bumps.
@@Gizmettithis truck isn't rated for 17k gvrw it is 12,200 at best
@@todontblink wrong. It’s almost like you didn’t watch the video. They said it themselves was.
@@GizmettiI know what he said and he is wrong. that truck might be rated to tow around 17k lbs but it's gvrw is only around 12,200lbs at most. most company's that build similar vehicles to this make them based off chassis cabs in the f550 or ram 5500 size range for the much higher gvrw. One example you might see on a daily basis is an ambulance.
ac units are usually on the roof because cool air falls.
If they put a retractable vent on the roof they will be fine.
Since your truck is a quad cab and being 4wd it has a GVWR of 12,200 pounds. Before you did anything to the truck it weighed around 7,600 pounds, you have added 3,300 or so pounds and aren't close to being finished. You have 1,200 pounds left to finish the build and zero towing at this point. Tongue weight counts as payload, which still has to fall at or under the GVWR of the truck.
I think he can outfit it with with the rest but he won't be able to store water.. And that weight is with unknown fuel.... Water and fuel are very heavvvyy
This thing has been a disaster from the jump. Stupid idea and poor execution.
Wild to think 17k is the gvwr of that truck. You would need something closer to a F550 for that weight. It'll definitely be overloaded by the end of it. I'm here for it though 😂
He's not using it commercially so gvwr isn't really ever going to effect him, not like he has to stop at weight stations or anything
I was wondering this since the start. Steel is way too heavy. Should have done this out of aluminum. You’re out of weight and have a lot more weight to go. Don’t forget additional passengers and luggage, food, water, fuel, spare tire.
I'd advice a color change, otherwise with hot days, it could become a mobile sauna. As retractable windows, which would work as safety exits.
As they live in a kinda cold region, they should be fine as far as don't take that shit down south
I was just about to say that. Thats how you get hot water, a black container on top of your vehicle...
He mentioned a couple episodes ago that they’ll probably paint the roof white.
Or maybe some sort of wrap or foil to deflect the UV rays
@@lillexus5589wrapping bed liner 🤣
The ac unit will be struggling. That intake duct is only capable of 100cfm and the back side of that ac unit uses almost 300 or so CFM. Those chrome vents are more meant for passive to minimal cooling of a small heat load, the style of vent and size of louvres cause a very large air restriction. It’s too low, your feet are gonna be cold and it will struggle to cool the standing / sleeping area. cool air falls and hot air rises. Finally, there’s no way for condensation to be expelled without collecting and causing mold. If you keep it how it is, it will just be a frustration and waste of energy to use. Google is your best friend in cases where you don’t know what you’re doing, I find it best too take a min, purposefully ask it questions related to the topic at hand, in the most obscure way possible (a way you wouldn’t normally ask a question) and you will find almost all the answers your looking for.
Ac condensate line? Dont want that water just sitting
I was wondering what their plan was for all the moisture that's going to drip out of the rear side of the AC unit..
Just needs a drain hole out the bottom.
On hot humid nights in the summer my window AC unit just pours water out the back onto my porch roof. They need a drain for sure. I'm also a little concerned about the angle of the unit and the duct tape they installed on the inside of the unit. I believe they are supposed to be angled slightly toward the back of the unit so condensation runs outside, i worry its perfectly level and the tape may be blocking some drainage holes.
@@curtisjmurphy Dont worry about it, just another opportunity for them to learn some more LOL
Condensate is only a problem for split units - compact units splash the condensate on the hot side of the heat exchanger, evaporating it - and then exhausting it with the hot air. This also improves efficiency.
Hats off on the out-of-the-box thinking, but I'm afraid that (even if it doesn't overheat) the A/C unit is going to short-cycle - meaning that it's going to pull the cold air back through the thermostat too quickly and fool it into thinking the space is cool enough. It's mounted too low, and cold air sinks. There's a reason RV air conditioning units are roof-mount. Love the channel, love the builds!
Yeah it should never have been placed that low, plus if it's running, no one's going to want to sit right there on that bench with their legs blocking it.
It’ll run non stop anyway let’s be real here
You're right the ac is mounted way too low .
That's what I was thinking. Cold air falls, so it seems to me the cold air falling from a higher point would fill the cabin better and more efficiently than cold air mounted low and staying low. In a perfect world, I always figured you'd want separate systems. Hot air mounted lower and cold air mounted higher.
But these home units are usually mounted low
The aircon drain is going to be very important, put it in now and save yourself hugh issues down the track.
Excellent build! The maximum load bearing Gross Vehicular Weight of a 2008 Dodge Ram 3500 with dual rear wheel is 11,000 lb for the 4x4 and 11,500 for the 4x2. You're possibly confusing trailable weight with max payload weight - two different things. Exceeding structural limits on axles, tyres would be an interesting liability situation.
Exactly. The brand new trucks are only 14,000. So this one is much less. I knew from the beginning all that steel was going to put it way over.
heat rises and cold falls. this is why you find furnace vents in the floor and ac vents in the celing.. your going to have a nice cold floor. but everything above waist height will be sweatting... have fun.
On the venting that exits for ac . If u didn't already put a screen behind the vents . So bugs and other things don't get inside ur unit
“Bees! …Your forearms are useless against them!”
You can have a bench and a desk. You need to look into Tiny House building. Things need to do double and triple duty in a small space.
Yeah put a desktop on a swing arm
Knowing how Chris runs his channel, he will probably look to these comments for direction on the build. Crowdsourcing in an area where you have little experience is the smart move anyway
IMO - bite the bullet now and replace all those steel exterior panels with aluminum panels & rivet them on to the existing skeletal structure (you could probably even make templates from the pieces you cut off). It'll pay dividends in the future and you'll be thankful you did. weight, rust, thermal properties, etc. It'll only get harder from here to do.
So, maybe I'm missing something. But doesn't the backside of the AC unit typically on the outside to discharge water? I think it brings in the air, cools it, dehumidifies it, and sends it out. I think that humidity needs to go somewhere.
On the hot side of the heat exchanger, evaporating it - then out with the hot exhaust air.
Love a good fist drive! 👊🏼
That’s what she said! 😅
that's odd, I find them a pain in the ass....
@@myopinion69420😵
Just to let you guys know on the AC unit on the bottom will be a hole or two of them that's for condensation? You may want to pipe it for the condensation😊
Thanks to you for being so honest with how your wiring was and the fix for it!! Also, Oscar explaining the wiring and how it can "shock. you" was HILARIOUS!! My wife and I were laughing so much!! We really do appreciate all the extra work you do to.take us along on your journey!!! We KNOW it takes at least twice as long (probably even more) to do a project when you have to capture it all via camera. Take care and may God overwhelm you with blessings!!!
Hopefully the condemnation (condensation) from the A/C will drain out of the truck and not fill the back camper with water.
*Edited but too funny to remove error*
Condemnation????😂😂😂😂😂
@@1ronco really sucks to not proofread before hitting send. 🤣
@@Sammyadams432 That's the B is for Build way though eh? :D
C is for Condemnation 😅😅😅
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Going to be a completely different story driving in the rain at 65 mph, that water is going to force its way into any and all voids in your "waterproofing". Hope you test that before you call it "done"
Nothing beats getting that fist ride!
I gotta say i admire ya'll resolve. Note, drain for AC. It won't be efficient being on the ground (cold air falls. Hence why AC vents are in roof. Allows the cold air to fall on u in a matter of speaking). Hopefully it is sized to cool the space. Nice truck
that ac is gonna make a lot of condensation.... hows it gonna drain the water bro?
I had mentioned before, this catching a strong cross wind going down the highway is going to be iffy.
It’s 11,000lbs, wind won’t affect it like a regular trailer, they should consider rear airbags though (or did they have that already hence the compressor hoses lol)
Should have watched Riley on Ambition Strikes build his out of aluminum
Not sure if you have looked into it or not, but I'd strongly recommend installing an exhaust brake. It will help lessen the strain on your brakes with all that weight, and at least for me, it would be some peace of mind that it would be safer. It definitely helps with mountain driving/towing, too! The newer cummins trucks (any 6.7, so 2007.5 and newer) have a built-in exhaust brake with the vgt turbo they have equipped. I liked it so much on my 2017 cummins that i had to have one when I bought my 2006. I'll reach out to you with some more info that you can check out if interested.
Love seeing the progress! Don't forget exterior scene lights
Only halfway through the episode so not sure if you do it, but 100% run electric to where a roof mount ac unit would go, cap it off on both ends. This way if something goes wrong with the home made one you don't need to fish wire or remove panels to get a wire in there.
For the ac, i would consider a puller fan. I work in the av world and use acinifinty for attic venting just a ln idea but awsome build!!!!
Did you ever see the Pic of the ram with the giant bed camper that bent the frame
They’re gonna see it in real life. 😅
Outstanding and awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
Remember to have to extra vents (now that you're making it air tight),
if the cabin is in positive pressure, you wont get any of that cold air from the AC unit in there, it will just throw it out again.
Quote of the day: 'Don't break your breaker with a wrong breaker' By B is for Build
You need a catch tray and drain for that AC. Typically that would be hanging out a home window and free to just drip from the entire bottom. Also the vent is going to be covered in condensation so the tray needs to catch all that too. A roof rv Ac just seems like a much safer cleaner option.
Don’t forget an AC Drain. Also consider a filter for the fresh air inlet and the exhaust. Critters and debris will find their way in. Be careful running it going down the road because of CO.
CO2 won't be an issue; the air being taken from outside goes back outside. There is a partition inside the unit.
For the AC. The “outside” air should actually come from inside the cabin. So you aren’t trying to cool outside air constantly. You will cool off the air you already conditioned.
That’s how it works in your window at home.
FYI. The framing in a top mount unit is 15”x15” most of you max air fans are the same size. I would recommend you install a max air unit. It will help suck out all the hot air. And if you want to put in a top air unit. The framing is already there. Hope this helps. The camper tuck looks amazing
May want to add 4 or 5 fire extinguishers. You know, when the wiring goes bad.
Oscar wasn't interrupted while talking!
Great progress guys
Roof top AC is the way to go. I have a van conversion and space is always a problem. In my opinion there’s a lot of space lost by this setup. I like all the thought that went into it. I learned while building my van, there is just some things you just have to buy. I love watching the build
Are you going to do any kind of design on it? Right now it's got a SWAT vehicle look going on. An A-Team stripe would be just enough, I think😉
I don't know why, But its looks like a garbage truck from behind😕,he really need to change the colour
I’ve done this before in an enclosed trailer and it works very well. It will collect water though. Just drain it somehow.
For your additional seating you could make it able to convert to a desk from a seat when you need it.
This is looking so good, I like the chrome accents and can't wait to see the interior
ram 3500 GVWR is 12,200. the 4500 has a higher gvwr (~17K) with a stronger frame. yes it's too heavy lol
It's legal
@@jerrywilcox9890 they still have a lot of weight to add with the interior
@@AnIdiotwithaSubaru it doesn't matter they will still be legal.
@@AnIdiotwithaSubaru that crap isn't going to weigh that much.my gooseneck with 5 cars on it weighs way more than that thing on the back.
The GVRW on that 3500 is 14k
You should have called Tavarish and asked for Gold Tape for your duct work😂
In addition to the heat load from the environment, please note that the inverter puts out a fair amount of heat into the cabin. If you are running the ac you will be drawing a significant amount from the inverter.
So, 2 things on the A/C,
1- as many many people have mentioned you need homeplace for the condensation to run or youll both flood the A/C and you'll rust out the metal around it.
2nd thing, heat rises. Im all for taking the air from the bottom so its cool air, but "gravity" doesn't apply to hot air, dont cut the side. My suggestion, do what they do with residential gas furnaces and put a vent through the roof with an RV rated roof vent, the inside can be normal HVAC or PVC piping as it shouldn't get hot enough to melt it or youve got more pressing issues 😅
Where is the water from the AC going to get out?
On the hot side of the heat exchanger, improving its efficiency - then: exhaust it out with the warm air.
Truck exhaust under the truck. AC intake under the truck. I know it is ducted, but is it possible gonna be bringing carbon monoxide inside?
It might suck in some exhaust, but the exhaust-filled air will only be used to cool the AC coils, then expelled outside. None of it will be circulated into the cabin. The carbon might eventually clog the heat exchanger, but there’s not a health risk.
It's not ac intake it's thermally exchanged air it's not what's circulating in cabin it's what goes through the heat exchanger
Chrome vents look great. Keep them.
Actually love the look of this thing
Test driving a fist is crazy twinnnn
On the A/C you should be pulling the cool air from the cabin so it’s recirculating the air and not always pulling in hot air from outside
It is bruh, its doing both
@@Gizmetti no that ducting is pulling air from outside not from the cabin
@@adamtitus8670 It's doing both... do you not see the big ass filter on the front of the AC?
It already is. There are 2 separate air systems on an AC. The inside air that sucks in the front filter then out the front vent, and a separate system that circulates outside air through the condenser then back outside.
@@Jasta315 no air is brought in from the front of the unit the air comes in from the sides and top and the hot air goes out the back and the cold air goes out the front
love this thing! great progress!
such a sick build
Hopefully the AC doesn't suck in any vehicle fumes..
The cold (insde) and hot (outside) parts of a window AC unit are are mostly sealed and seperated besides a few drain holes. Contrary to what most people think the do not move any air into or out of the building. As long as thier ducting is sealed well CO shouldn't be an issue as any fumes that are sucked in will pass through the hot side of the AC unit and be harmlessly vented back outside. I hope they isntall a CO detector either way.
Fist? Is this the wrong channel? Lmao
Chrome looks good!
This entire build has so many learning opportunities in it…😂 love the dedication, creativity and resilience during the process!
✊ fist
@8:54 "It's gonna be a good time" just so i remember he said this for later.
The campertruck looks really good on the road!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Awesome looks good on the outside
Fist 👊
Rip on the first campsite road tree branch
What are you talking about my camper is taller that that thing si I highly doubt it's hitting anything.
It looks excellent
I like the chrome!
Fist!
Fist test
Nothing like a Fist test drive. 👊
6:36 that ac idea seems cool. Good luck
I agree! Not bad at all! Pretty,... pretty,... pretty...pretty good! I subscribe to many similar channels as BIFB, but this channel does a great job of making something different from what it was intended to be. I love that approach. When BIFB begins that boat project in the future, you know that's going to off the hook! Very impressed with the camper project. The yacht recovery is high on my "impressed" scale, too!
The reason RV AC systems are on the roof is so if you have an exhaust leak, you don’t immediately die. You should reroute the intake to at least next to the exit on the side.
A/C units recycle inside air. The outside air is only used to remove the energy displaced by the process. You made an invalid point about something you know nothing about.
Gonna have to get rid of the water too. Camper roof ac drips outside the unit. That's gonna drip from the bottom
I just drove through Portland and was thinking about you. Stay healthy and happy.
What is a fist test? Isn’t that specifically designed for marriage?
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If your pulling air from under the truck, better make sure you don't get an exhaust leak.
I would think that the fresh air is meant to assist with the cooling of the coil and exhausting and not going into the interior. It's on the side of the unit that is normally outside.
Very true, thank you for the correction
Lean into the chrome accents! Hell yeah.
Gotta admire the way these guys decide to just go ahead and create these vehicles. The exit vent looks fine in chrome
Pretty sure I left a comment saying this was going to be WAAAAY too heavy. There's a reason they use wood and fiberglass in campers, an aluminum in trailers.
Fist comment 😅
Did you guys make a drip trsy for that AC, they produce a lot of condensation and water and it has to go somewhere
You need a drain in the A/C outlet duct because water will come in those louvres whenever you drive in the rain.
Fist.
That thing is sweet, love the look.
Great job!
Fist
That looks badass
Looks sick I want one !
Fist lol 😆
That build should be titled: how to not build a camper. No offense but it will be problems after problems, pretty sure you'll make 1 trip with it and toss it at the scrapyard.
Looks like an Airport Shuttle 😎✈
I think is fantastic! Kudos
B is for build crap
Don't forget about a drain for the condensation!