Russia’s Proposal for a Tunnel to Japan

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  • čas přidán 2. 03. 2021
  • Russia is considering constructing a $76 billion dollar tunnel project across the Soya Strait, connecting Japan to Russia. The Soya Strait is a 43 kilometer wide passage of water separating the island of Sakhalin in Russia and the island of Hokkaido in Japan. If a tunnel was built across it, it would have many benefits. It would boost the local economies and provide the first physical link between Japan and the rest of Asia. However, it would also have some issues. The region is a seismic zone, there are no large population centers near it, and the tunnel would be incredibly expensive. In addition, Japan currently has no interest in the project. However, if Russia’s infrastructure improves and Japan gains interest, a Sakhalin-Hokkaido tunnel could likely be built in the future.
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  • @krish4134
    @krish4134 Před 3 lety +368

    Unlikely because:
    1. Kuril Islands dispute
    2. USA

    • @krish4134
      @krish4134 Před 3 lety +60

      @ً Japan relies on US for protection against North Korea and China so the US has a lot of leverage over Japan and also Joe Biden is the president right now who is hostile towards Russia.

    • @trezapoioiuy
      @trezapoioiuy Před 3 lety +13

      The Kuril Islands dispute is at least ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as China's claims on historical bases on about everything it claims. Japan tried to conquer the whole SEA and lost, of course there are consequences.
      And with China acting as it is acting, improving relationships with a powerful country that is also neighbouring China would be at least a good idea.

    • @bttnat439
      @bttnat439 Před 3 lety +13

      @@trezapoioiuy Dude, there was no hostile between the USSR and the Japan until USSR declared war on Japan on August 8, 1945 and invaded the Kuril Islands with the help from Americans

    • @trezapoioiuy
      @trezapoioiuy Před 3 lety +22

      @@bttnat439 that’s what happens when you jump in a world war and lose

    • @Annu1tco3pt1s
      @Annu1tco3pt1s Před 3 lety +4

      Disagree, Russia is looking for an opportunity to deescalate because it's not working for their economy. Japan and Russian relations have been neutral. But the Kuril Islands dispute can be solved, Russia does not need those islands, except for natural resources. So far Kuril Islands were largely been used as a nature preserve. I can see Japan and Russia cutting a sweet deal for each other over it, that would benefit both sides.

  • @inakisoetelopez8397
    @inakisoetelopez8397 Před 3 lety +264

    this always happens when they have plans but it never happens, i would love to see some videos that talk about projects that are already happening

    • @aarondewindt
      @aarondewindt Před 3 lety +24

      I don't know, there are quite a lot of channels which cover already in progress or finished projects. I see this channel more for these type of possible future projects that may happen someday, but won't for the foreseeable future because of lack of political willpower or funding, and not because they require some non-existing scifi technology like a trans-atlantic submerged hyperloop tunnel made out of carbon nanotubes. The projects here are interesting in part because I can see some of these happening within my lifetime, while still showing the limits and potential of what is possible with current technology.

    • @FuturologyChannel
      @FuturologyChannel  Před 3 lety +59

      Thanks for the comment! I will consider this when deciding future video topics. :)

    • @GabrielKitignaTessouat
      @GabrielKitignaTessouat Před 3 lety +4

      Then I recommend futurologys video about the Turkish bridge near Çanakkale!
      Also B1M is an interesting channel

    • @GabrielKitignaTessouat
      @GabrielKitignaTessouat Před 3 lety

      @@aarondewindt well said

    • @inakisoetelopez8397
      @inakisoetelopez8397 Před 3 lety

      @@GabrielKitignaTessouat yeah thanks

  • @Sebastian-sd1om
    @Sebastian-sd1om Před 3 lety +235

    It's one of those "all talk no action" project proposals.

    • @pierresihite8854
      @pierresihite8854 Před 3 lety +13

      Reminds me of the US with infrastructure

    • @paulghencea9037
      @paulghencea9037 Před 3 lety +11

      I mean it is a proposal

    • @jons5044
      @jons5044 Před 3 lety

      It will be implemented rather closer to the middle of the century.

    • @1997saltydog
      @1997saltydog Před 3 lety +2

      Reminds me of that one project to connect Alaska to Siberia through a bridge/tunnel.

    • @steviejohnson378
      @steviejohnson378 Před 3 lety +1

      Because Japan has nothing to gain from this project

  • @ThePotatoHandler
    @ThePotatoHandler Před 3 lety +215

    Unless Russia and Japan form better relations, I don’t think Japan will be connected to the mainland. The Japan - Korea tunnel wouldn’t work as North Korea would block access to the rest of Asia

    • @ignisilluminati
      @ignisilluminati Před 3 lety +4

      There's an interesting proposal which mentions a tunnel between China and South Korea as well.

    • @wahrebeobachter
      @wahrebeobachter Před 3 lety +5

      @@ignisilluminati Whuattt? With which shortest distance?

    • @branilavvasic9727
      @branilavvasic9727 Před 3 lety +13

      @@ignisilluminati That would be imposible. Distance is just huge.

    • @ignisilluminati
      @ignisilluminati Před 3 lety +4

      @@wahrebeobachter Between Weihai in the Shandong peninsula to Incheon or Pyeongtaek of South Korea.

    • @ignisilluminati
      @ignisilluminati Před 3 lety +4

      @@branilavvasic9727
      It's a paper plan by now due to many uncertainties in the region. But I'm sure that technology won't be a big problem if there are political agreements between responsible counterparts.
      The expected cost is only ~1.2x higher than the tunnel between Japan and South Korea, which is expensive but not completely unaffordable.

  • @austinhughes6852
    @austinhughes6852 Před 3 lety +523

    It sounds like a good idea.If Russia and Japan would settle the island dispute.Then you could drive from England all the way to Japan!

    • @ambientcalm3125
      @ambientcalm3125 Před 3 lety +75

      You could drive from south africa to england to Japan

    • @kurssmalla6182
      @kurssmalla6182 Před 3 lety +29

      Russia has introduced an amendment to the constitution that does not allow the alienation of territory. Economic interest is almost negligible for Russia, and that tunnel is much more in Japan's interest. Russia does not want to lose its security and territory for the sake of somewhat greater economic cooperation with Japan.

    • @elmersbalm5219
      @elmersbalm5219 Před 3 lety +39

      @@kurssmalla6182 Russia needs the economic stimulus to grow the eastern regions. It will never give up islands to a Japan that is effectively occupied by the US. Giving up Crimea a long time ago became a point of vulnerability.

    • @KAMiKAZOW
      @KAMiKAZOW Před 3 lety +37

      Japan needs to finally realize that they were the pacific WW2 aggressor and have jack to demand from nations they attacked and who had and still have legitimate standing to keep land as reparations. If they do, the dispute is over right away.

    • @honyasenyou
      @honyasenyou Před 3 lety +7

      >Then you could drive from England all the way to Japan!
      Just take a KLM or Lufthansa flight. It's more affordable.

  • @Dept246
    @Dept246 Před 3 lety +42

    Isn’t the relationship between Russia and Japan rather cold? Like that uncle you haven’t talked to in 40 years.

    • @mx191000
      @mx191000 Před 3 lety +7

      They're technically still at war..

  • @20_percent
    @20_percent Před 3 lety +73

    I want to build a tunnel connecting Earth and Mars

  • @artpastorette4547
    @artpastorette4547 Před 3 lety +49

    I would like to see Russia and Japan improve relations in order for this project to actually happen. It would be so cool to travel from Russia to japan from train!

    • @pagb6813
      @pagb6813 Před rokem +7

      残念ながら、私たち日本人はロシアに行きたくありません。

    • @artpastorette4547
      @artpastorette4547 Před rokem +2

      @@pagb6813 I don’t blame the Japanese!

    • @user-tb3qk9vk8u
      @user-tb3qk9vk8u Před měsícem

      @@pagb6813 и слава богу

  • @ravinchowdhury5215
    @ravinchowdhury5215 Před 3 lety +64

    Great idea! Now the 5 people who live there can visit Japan

    • @night-sky_
      @night-sky_ Před 3 lety +7

      you mean like 180,000

    • @switzerlandch4986
      @switzerlandch4986 Před 3 lety +22

      500,000 people inhabit the island of Sakhalin, 5.3 Million people inhabit the island of Hokkaido. The potential for tourism may not be enough to pay for the bridge construction, but you need to remember it would greatly boost commerce between the two regions and the two nations, and it's a land access for Japan's rail and road cargo to asia, this would make it cheaper to export products.

    • @gc3k
      @gc3k Před 3 lety +3

      There's already shared community between eastern Russia and northern Japan, you can find expats from both countries living in both regions

    • @ravinchowdhury5215
      @ravinchowdhury5215 Před 3 lety +5

      Haha I was just joking, I know more than 5 people live there. Anyway I think it's probably not worth it unless the Japanese and Russians have some big trade/ manufacturing deals. Only the rails sound useful, road not really and for goods ships are still better.

    • @SuperHeroINTJ
      @SuperHeroINTJ Před 3 lety

      Cargo...

  • @Dave_Sisson
    @Dave_Sisson Před 3 lety +18

    Umm... the bridge at 7:21 is in Hobart, Tasmania, a very very long way from either Japan or Russia.

    • @NedNew
      @NedNew Před 3 lety +5

      Well they can't exactly show a bridge that hasn't been built.

  • @SportZFan4L1fe
    @SportZFan4L1fe Před 3 lety +11

    No need for tunnel. All trade from Asia to Europe will utilize Arctic Trade Route.

    • @NedNew
      @NedNew Před 3 lety +1

      Trade is simply a miscreant pseudonym for dialectic transformative paradigms.

  • @GeorgeSemel
    @GeorgeSemel Před 3 lety +40

    It really makes a lot of sense, outside of the construction costs. There are a lot of issues that would have to be overcome. Resolution of Post World War II disputes is the big one, built all the support infrastructure. Dealing with different rail gauges. At this point in time, Russia's economy can't support such an effort. So start with shipping Japanese goods to Vladivostok for shipment by rail to Europe, work out all those problems so that it very cost-effective. They can do that now, and if it all works out to the satisfaction of the parties involved, then you can look at taking further steps. This would be a 40 to 60-year project to get all the things built that you would need. It will all come down to trust and put to bed old hard feelings, It would also require that tunnel across the Bering Straits. So it would be a huge if not the biggest construction project in history. In the end, I doubt such a project will ever get off the ground, let alone completed. At least not as things stand right now.

    • @beringstraitrailway
      @beringstraitrailway Před 3 lety

      I believe that building an all electrified railway from China to the United States would play a large part in helping the world meet the goal of zero carbon emissions by replacing a large percentage of the containers shipping that is currently being done by the mega sized container ships. The ship blocking the Suez Canal this year also shows that we need an alternative to cargo ships for shipping freight.

    • @alfrredd
      @alfrredd Před 3 lety

      I think it would make more sense if it connected to South Korea or even China better than with Russia 🤷‍♂️

    • @command_unit7792
      @command_unit7792 Před 2 lety +1

      Russia's economy is much better then the Japanese
      Russia's Debt to GDP ratio is below 20% while Japans is above 200%...
      Russia has large cash and gold reserves and a balanced budget and a large trade surplus.

    • @GI876758
      @GI876758 Před 2 lety +1

      @@command_unit7792 Russia's economy is not even comparable to those of Canada let alone Japan lol. GDP per capita Japan is higher than Russia. Debt to GDP ratio is high yet Hokkaido is developed more than Sakhalin with Hokkaido and mainland Japan is connected through tunnel already while Sakhalin tunnel connecting to Russia still incomplete.

    • @command_unit7792
      @command_unit7792 Před 2 lety

      @@GI876758 Russia's GDP(PPP) is the size of germany.
      And the sakhalin tunnel is not worth the cost when the Japanese refuse to built a tunnel between Sakhalin and Hokkido..

  • @ThatSamuel24
    @ThatSamuel24 Před 3 lety +76

    It won't happen japan and russia have complex relations.

    • @curious5887
      @curious5887 Před 3 lety +12

      It will happened if they stop see their history, make their own future for both of them

    • @dazza2350
      @dazza2350 Před 3 lety +1

      Yikes you haven't even watched it

    • @ThatSamuel24
      @ThatSamuel24 Před 3 lety +7

      @@curious5887 Still it's unlikely and I doubt Russia would hand over the islands for the project.

    • @boycottnok1466
      @boycottnok1466 Před 3 lety +24

      @@curious5887 First Russia needs to return islands or else nothing will happen.

    • @curious5887
      @curious5887 Před 3 lety

      @@boycottnok1466 that what i think will happen in the future, i hope all country make their own together than use the past as their guide

  • @theprimest
    @theprimest Před 3 lety +28

    Who's here before futurology hits 1 million subscribers?

  • @alexw8867
    @alexw8867 Před 3 lety +1

    I love learning about infrastructure projects that I never heard of before from around the world thx :)

  • @otanakugaming3357
    @otanakugaming3357 Před 3 lety +8

    Fun fact: I have seen similar concepts in some fictional mapping communities in Japan

  • @rsuriyop
    @rsuriyop Před 3 lety +9

    Honestly, I feel that burrowing a tunnel connecting the two countries would take FOREVER. The highway that I frequently use to go to work every day is _still_ under construction, even though they've begun the project over a full year-and-a-half ago now. So imagine how long it would take to construct a 43 kilometer long tunnel - _under water._ Possibly over a hundred years.

    • @sodinc
      @sodinc Před 3 lety +5

      Why so long?
      they`ve build more then 60 km of railway tunnels in Moscow in last 5 years

  • @Narrowgaugefilms
    @Narrowgaugefilms Před 3 lety +10

    The part of Sakhalin that the tunnel would land on used to be part of Japan too. In the last days of WWII the USSR conquered the island and forced the Japanese out. Until recently the track gauge on Sakhalin and in Japan was the same because the Japanese governed the island and built the railroads there.

    • @lo-fihub6509
      @lo-fihub6509 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Сахалин принадлежал Российской Империи, а в 1904 году Япония окупировала южную часть Сахалина, Корею, и часть Китая. В 1945 СССР не захватил, а вернул свои территории. Союзники признали эти территории, так как это было одним из условий что бы СССР помог союзникам победить Японию.

  • @HighPeakMapping
    @HighPeakMapping Před 3 lety

    Wow I’m early! Great video as always man!

  • @darkmatter5424
    @darkmatter5424 Před 3 lety +11

    Forget Japan connection, Russia MUST prioritize linking Sakhalin to the mainland as soon as it can as a matter of national interest. If it can build a bridge to Crimea in less than 5 years (planning to completion), I'm sure it will be a lot easier to connect Sakhalin.

  • @user-zt9ts6vq4m
    @user-zt9ts6vq4m Před 3 lety +31

    For a good tunnel hire Dutch engineers as they are the best in building tunnels

    • @CC-st9ht
      @CC-st9ht Před 3 lety +9

      Japanese has that type of skill too. If the time will come, when Japan wants to make straight tunnels, they do themselves. Tsugaru and Moji straights has tunnels which were made to bear earthquake.

    • @tigeriontigerion9112
      @tigeriontigerion9112 Před 3 lety +5

      Japan helped the construction of English channel tunnel.

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw Před 3 lety +3

      *G E K O L O N I S E E R D*

  • @user-fp1jv7je7i
    @user-fp1jv7je7i Před 3 lety +11

    Dang, I'm early! Great editing, voiceover and research, keep up with the great job and the amazing content!

    • @user-fp1jv7je7i
      @user-fp1jv7je7i Před 3 lety +2

      @@Cjnw And you just had to post this comment here because? I have nothing to do with my government, stop goddamn saying this to every single person you see online that is Jewish/Israeli.

  • @felineboy1586
    @felineboy1586 Před 3 lety

    Damg man I was just thinking about it today and you made a video on it side get out of my head😆😆😆💕💕💕

  • @christianenevoldsen6124
    @christianenevoldsen6124 Před 3 lety +14

    I Think that the tunnel could be possible but I don’t think that Russia will give the islands back to Japan

    • @kurssmalla6182
      @kurssmalla6182 Před 3 lety +6

      Russia has introduced an amendment to the constitution that does not allow the alienation of territory. Economic interest is almost negligible for Russia, and that tunnel is much more in Japan's interest. Russia does not want to lose its security and territory for the sake of somewhat greater economic cooperation with Japan.

    • @victordansereau8444
      @victordansereau8444 Před 3 lety +4

      These are russian island thé people of these en island speak russian its thé japanese empire who invade thèse island

    • @robertabella1806
      @robertabella1806 Před 3 lety +11

      @@victordansereau8444 no the island were definitely japanese but the Soviet Union occupied them during WW2 and just never gave them back

    • @manfreds.6384
      @manfreds.6384 Před 3 lety +6

      The original people were japanese the soviets force them out after WW2.

    • @tigeriontigerion9112
      @tigeriontigerion9112 Před 3 lety +5

      @@robertabella1806
      Hokkaido, Sakhalin and Kurio islands were originated to neither Japanese nor Russian.
      The native there are killed off or assimilated from both sides, then a colonist lost against another colonist, so the former lost some colonies.

  • @128Seconds
    @128Seconds Před 3 lety +3

    Very interesting, wonder if it will happen. Great job!

  • @benweaver5042
    @benweaver5042 Před 3 lety +1

    I've been waiting for this! So glad you covered it!

  • @pierrekilgoretrout3143
    @pierrekilgoretrout3143 Před 3 lety +7

    Exchanging Kurile islands means losing a good fishing place, and probably also part of the strategic control of Okhost sea?

    • @lorenzolim7754
      @lorenzolim7754 Před 3 lety +1

      Well its not theirs to begin with

    • @belkYT
      @belkYT Před 2 lety

      @@lorenzolim7754 and....? Russia declared war on japan and had every right to annex the islands. Plus they deserved it

  • @user-hk4ws4ud6o
    @user-hk4ws4ud6o Před 2 lety +6

    First, the Japan-Russia tunnel will not be built unless Japan and Russia conclude a peace treaty. And the Japanese side does not need the Japan-Russia tunnel itself because it is unlikely that it will have much economic effect even if it is connected to Russia by a tunnel.

  • @jagdpanther2224
    @jagdpanther2224 Před 3 lety +5

    The two nations were still living in a status of war!

  • @priatalat
    @priatalat Před 3 lety +49

    Japan is an island nation with the ocean as their natural defense. With their history, I highly doubt they'd be eager to build a land tunnel into their homeland.

    • @branilavvasic9727
      @branilavvasic9727 Před 3 lety +30

      I guess that you can say the same thing about UK. But more importantly in an event of a war they can always blow up the tunnel.

    • @priatalat
      @priatalat Před 3 lety +3

      @@branilavvasic9727 Britain fought alongside France in both world wars and continue to have good relations, unfortunately Japan and Russia historically has always been enemies so they might not be as friendly lol

    • @constantinethecataphract5949
      @constantinethecataphract5949 Před 3 lety +24

      Do you know how easy it is to block tunnels like these in the event of war ?

    • @user-no9eg5ho5c
      @user-no9eg5ho5c Před 3 lety +16

      Your thinking is at the level of a 5-year-old child. The Russians have a hundred safer ways to get their troops into Japan than by sending men and equipment in an underwater tunnel. =)

    • @priatalat
      @priatalat Před 3 lety +5

      @@constantinethecataphract5949 Who said anything about war? You can influence another country without going to war these days, that's why China is spending billions building bridges and tunnels in other countries. There's a new way the take over the world now, and it's not with guns.

  • @PurpleMonkeyBalls
    @PurpleMonkeyBalls Před 3 lety +107

    seems like russia really wants to build a tunnel

    • @donjohn5542
      @donjohn5542 Před 3 lety +3

      Seems Russia lies and fibs to be relevant.

    • @funghi2606
      @funghi2606 Před 3 lety +35

      It’s because Russia want a develop East, due to growing Chinese influence over the region

    • @donjohn5542
      @donjohn5542 Před 3 lety +4

      @@funghi2606 Russians are Chinese. Real brothers.

    • @adriangaming4853
      @adriangaming4853 Před 3 lety +19

      @@donjohn5542 *Sino Soviet conflict intensifies*

    • @donjohn5542
      @donjohn5542 Před 3 lety +2

      @@adriangaming4853 good good

  • @thetechnician832
    @thetechnician832 Před 3 lety +1

    It's a lot of money, not sure if the gains outweigh the benefits. I come from NZ. We are two islands, I wonder if a plan for tunnel under Cook Strait has ever been proposed.
    Enjoying your channel

  • @zembalu
    @zembalu Před 2 lety +8

    The problem is not the Kurile Islands only: Japan and the US are allies, and the US has almost succeeded in baffling the Northstream pipeline to Europe. And, as I recently heard, many Japanese think, that Russia nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki,, not the US.

    • @wederMaxim
      @wederMaxim Před rokem +1

      😅

    • @DonCorleon31
      @DonCorleon31 Před rokem

      They did succeed in blowing it up though 🤣

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV Před rokem

      LMAO, nobody in Japan believes that. There's plenty of problems with Japan teaching students a...skewed version of WW2 history, but that's all in the area of hiding Japan's war crimes.

  • @presto569
    @presto569 Před 3 lety +2

    Lol the “landslide” is a glitch from transport fever

  • @nicosmind3
    @nicosmind3 Před 3 lety

    Is it cool to put forward video ideas? I wad thinking a video on the Channel Tunnel (UK to France) the lessons learnt, and how its done better today. It could talk about machines used, etc etc vs tech out now and coming out in the future. You could probably find out a lot of information from the companies that make those types of machines

  • @alparslankorkmaz2964
    @alparslankorkmaz2964 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice video.

  • @pierresihite8854
    @pierresihite8854 Před 3 lety

    Could you do a video on the US North Atlantic Rail project? Its a highspeed railway+new connections for New England. Its expected to cost over 100b if it happens

  • @jotsingh8917
    @jotsingh8917 Před 3 lety +17

    Another big reason: It will give both countries an alternative towards China.

    • @branilavvasic9727
      @branilavvasic9727 Před 3 lety +6

      India is a good alternative too.

    • @realtalk6195
      @realtalk6195 Před 3 lety

      @@branilavvasic9727 What does that even mean, India is on the other side of the continent. Japan benefits from the Russian tunnel and rail link because it gives it an alternative and cheaper means of shipping goods throughout Eurasia. Russia benefits from the same reason, due to transit fees and economic activity in the Russian Far East.
      Both countries already have political and trade relations with India on their own, but India isn't really relevant to this particular subject matter since manufacturing isn't the issue here.

  • @Zigblat
    @Zigblat Před 2 lety +2

    Sakhalin is an island. It does have ferry service to Russia, including a train ferry. However the average trip is 11-12 hours. The current ferries can carry up to 28 train wagons. Also, considerable work has to be done to accommodate train cars. The Sakhalin railway has a different gauge than the national one. Russia started to build a tunnel to Sakhalin in the 1950s but abandoned it.

    • @Lea_Kaderova
      @Lea_Kaderova Před 2 lety +2

      Sakhalin railways were this year fully switched to russian railway gauge 1520 mm. Also currently is undergoing huge reconstruction and adding of another track on BAM (Baikal-Amur magistral). It will be fully completed in 2024 and after that is planned to solve connection to Sakhalin by railway/cars bridge over Nevelskogo strait, so around 2030-33 should be Sakhalin connected to mainland Russia.

  • @edwxx20001
    @edwxx20001 Před 3 lety +4

    CZcams has brought me to a few of your video's today, and I have to say im impressed with wildly the proposals underestimate the cost of massive projects like this one. It just seems everyone making the proposals are just hoping to get things started before people look at the actual costs and benefits of the projects, and the sunk cost of having started will keep people making them. Japan only imports 13.6B and exports 19.6B from and to russia each year. While a singular rail link between the two may increase this number, the cost will never be justified.
    Also Sakhalin is also disputed Japanese territory so its highly unlikely they will be willing to spend any money linking to the island, while its still owned by Russia.

    • @user-ly8vw3ej3v
      @user-ly8vw3ej3v Před měsícem

      Он и будет принадлежать России, нам японцы на острове не нужны. Мы их зря вышвыривали в войну что ли? Надо будет-повторим

  • @gc3k
    @gc3k Před 3 lety +4

    Seems like a win-win for north Japan and east Russia which are really damn close. I see it happening one day

  • @linusfotograf
    @linusfotograf Před 3 lety +26

    It would be cool if they exchanged the islands for Japan's co-operation and funding.

    • @MrPeterPan
      @MrPeterPan Před 3 lety +7

      Won’t ever happen

    • @jenshusted641
      @jenshusted641 Před 3 lety +3

      Russia is big enough already

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson Před 3 lety +1

      As if the expansionist Putin would give up even a metre of Russian territory. That will never happen while he's in charge.

    • @adriangaming4853
      @adriangaming4853 Před 3 lety +4

      @B D But didn't USSR and Japan signed some non aggression pact before WW2 and USSR invaded Japan anyway ? Don't lambast me. Japan and Russia are great countries. I like them both.

    • @kumorishumi2536
      @kumorishumi2536 Před 3 lety +3

      @@adriangaming4853 The problem is Russia doesn't give a fuck, just as Japan respecting the Geneva convention

  • @basichistory
    @basichistory Před 3 lety

    Fascinating stuff

  • @Ayratzay
    @Ayratzay Před 3 lety +5

    There would be 5 passengers anually passing thru the tunnel and 0 ton of goods. I don't find this project any feasible at all

  • @egyptianmachimoi2112
    @egyptianmachimoi2112 Před 3 lety

    Hello Futurology! can you please talk about Egypt's El Dabaa Nuclear Power Plant?

  • @unregulatedcapitalism4002

    Similar to train and shipping companies lobbying against oil pipelines, undersea tunnels and bridges are problematic for shipping and airline companies and would introduce additional competition for them.

  • @antonallen8972
    @antonallen8972 Před 3 lety +14

    The solution with the handing over of Kuril’s won’t work, because that sets a dangerous precedent, where China could suddenly decide to take land form Russia and other Asian countries. China’s historical entity, the Qin Dynasty used to have territorial sovereignty over a lot of Russia’s eastern lands 200-400 years ago. Then because of Nevelskoy, after whom the bridge is named, China handed over the lands to the Russian empire, and it’s been Russian since. That’s how me, a Russian, was born on Sakhalin.

    • @hollywoodj500
      @hollywoodj500 Před 3 lety +4

      I am agree with you. I am not Russian but Haïtiens. It will be a grave mistake for Russia to hand over those Islands to Japan. It was a mistake selling Alaska to America and will so to Japan. Japan will allow US to build bases on those Islands. Now Japan is saying no we will not let US put bases on those Islands. But as soon as Russia hand over those Islands to Japan US will pressure Japan to do so. So please Russia don't give up anything to any other countries keep all your land.

    • @kurssmalla6182
      @kurssmalla6182 Před 3 lety

      Russia has introduced an amendment to the constitution that does not allow the alienation of territory. Economic interest is almost negligible for Russia, and that tunnel is much more in Japan's interest. Russia does not want to lose its security and territory for the sake of somewhat greater economic cooperation with Japan.

    • @tigeriontigerion9112
      @tigeriontigerion9112 Před 3 lety

      @@kurssmalla6182
      Your saying is not wrong so much, but you commented the same thing over and over, so you seem a bot.

    • @kurssmalla6182
      @kurssmalla6182 Před 3 lety

      @@tigeriontigerion9112 I'm not a bot, I'm defending the truth. This video is quite based and anti-Russian as if it was made by the CIA. He talks about Russia's interest in Japan trading with Europe and the United States through Russian territory, what is Russia's interest here. He talks about how Russia should finance the project and how Russia should give the culinary islands to Japan. So I'm aksing you again, what is Russia's interest here? Japan was an aggressor in the war, lost the war and cannot have pretensions to Russian territory.

    • @tigeriontigerion9112
      @tigeriontigerion9112 Před 3 lety

      @@kurssmalla6182
      You misunderstand this channel; this channel is not CIA propagandist. Simply, this channel is so obsessed with making videos about any possible plans of tunnel constructions in order to get views. You can find too many kinds of "a nation's proposal for a tunnel to another nation" videos on this channel.

  • @Silver_Prussian
    @Silver_Prussian Před 3 lety +8

    Where is Konstantin Rodzaevsky, if it was him we would have this bridge done in no time.
    TNO REFERENCE

    • @Silver_Prussian
      @Silver_Prussian Před 3 lety

      @@user-om6wi9gg1l but because of him we got Russian anime, man where is authoritarianism when you need it, tell comrade Batov

    • @Silver_Prussian
      @Silver_Prussian Před 3 lety +2

      @@user-om6wi9gg1l ohh come on comrade Yazov just wants to put a few million germans in camps and besides he can win without nuclear war.

    • @Silver_Prussian
      @Silver_Prussian Před 3 lety +1

      @@Cjnw Tno my russian friend

    • @droneoperator2.061
      @droneoperator2.061 Před 3 lety

      oh yeah

  • @TommyTheWalker
    @TommyTheWalker Před 9 měsíci

    As you know Seattle is an earthquake prone area. Two Seattle engineers stated that a tunnel would be safe

  • @andriyandreyko8177
    @andriyandreyko8177 Před 3 lety +2

    And don't worry about rail road width: in Sakhalin railroad has Japanese width, because it was Japanese who started to build railroad system of Sakhalin after 1905.

    • @Lost-In-Blank
      @Lost-In-Blank Před 3 lety

      Yes, back when Sakhalin was part of Japan, after being part of China and Mongolia. Before Russia invaded it and most of the habitants fled to Japan.

  • @itgamingke
    @itgamingke Před 3 lety +1

    Congratulations for reaching 100k subs💯💯💯🎉🎉

  • @remember25october
    @remember25october Před rokem

    If the place is seismic, use the steel in cast iron for tunnel shell.

  • @HalifaxHercules
    @HalifaxHercules Před 3 lety +3

    That may never happen until the Kuril Islands, a chain of barrier islands located between Hokkaido Island and the Kamchatka Peninsula, and Sakhalin are returned to the Japanese.

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV Před rokem +1

      South Sakhalin, at any rate. Japan agreed way back in 1855 to let Russia have the northern half of the island. They'd probably be okay with keeping it that way the parts that Russia seized by force were returned. Especially since the southern half is the better part of Sakhalin anyway (winters are harsher to the north). Unfortunately that means it's also where most of the Russian residents of the island already live. And since Japan is a civilized 21st century nation, they're not in the ethnic cleansing business.

  • @timeflysintheshop
    @timeflysintheshop Před 3 lety +4

    Maybe not in our lifetimes, but eventually, yes I believe this tunnel will be built.

    • @adriangaming4853
      @adriangaming4853 Před 3 lety

      You seem to be very old guy by your comment.

    • @timeflysintheshop
      @timeflysintheshop Před 3 lety

      @@adriangaming4853 Thanks Adrian. I am felling pretty old already. Check out a couple of the videos on my channel and then see if you can guess my age :-)

  • @jeffreymancini409
    @jeffreymancini409 Před rokem +4

    Russia can't even construct a tunnel from their mainland to Sakhalin a six mile long endeavor. What makes one think that the Russians are capable of constructing a tunnel to Hokkaido. Besides the Kuril's takeover is something Russia refuses to resolve.

  • @jordanhamann9123
    @jordanhamann9123 Před 3 lety +13

    Most of these "proposal" projects seem to follow a very similar thread

  • @gremlinonthewing..5477
    @gremlinonthewing..5477 Před 3 lety +1

    What about a video on Malta to Gozo Tunnel 🇲🇹🇲🇹

  • @mildlydispleased3221
    @mildlydispleased3221 Před 2 lety +1

    I've always wanted to take a train from London to Tokyo

  • @deinemudda1049
    @deinemudda1049 Před 2 lety +3

    They should definitely build it, because if it means developing Siberia, it's better protected against Chinese expansion

  • @duckmug1490
    @duckmug1490 Před 3 lety

    Well I can see Russia giving japan the islands for a cost of the rail way and a positive thought on the tunnel but the earthquake part can be a big issue

  • @thatcrazybritishlad6328
    @thatcrazybritishlad6328 Před 3 lety +7

    Futurology in 3 weeks, *Elon Musk is considering a tunnel to mars*

  • @command_unit7792
    @command_unit7792 Před 3 lety +5

    Sakhalin actually uses the same train gauge as japan

  • @haydenb2406
    @haydenb2406 Před 3 lety +1

    if they did this and then a berring strait tunnel, the entire world (save oceania and south america because of the darien gap) would be connected by land

  • @danielweigandberg2917
    @danielweigandberg2917 Před 3 lety

    Great video as always

  • @RedXlV
    @RedXlV Před rokem +2

    Potential Japanese counter-offer: "We'll build a Sakhalin-Hokkaido tunnel, if you give South Sakhalin back to us." Remember, the Kurils aren't the only islands that the USSR took away from Japan.

    • @dedidi3347
      @dedidi3347 Před 6 měsíci

      Japanese empire didnt exist anymore

  • @TheSwedishHistorian
    @TheSwedishHistorian Před 3 lety +8

    At this point any economically viable bridges and tunnels have been buily already.
    Linking Hokkaido with an obscure russian province cost billions and makes Japan less defensible.

    • @user-fz3ud8jm8r
      @user-fz3ud8jm8r Před 3 lety

      Not to mention exorbitant price.

    • @trezapoioiuy
      @trezapoioiuy Před 3 lety +1

      Blowing up an undersea channel is quite easy, if necesary

    • @donjohn5542
      @donjohn5542 Před 3 lety

      Japan may as well build a tunnel to North Korea if they're building on to Russia. Same shit.

  • @redboatwengchunserbia6448

    Thats good lets goo work

  • @rosalim4761
    @rosalim4761 Před 3 lety

    Sounds great.

  • @BlueFox098
    @BlueFox098 Před 3 lety

    Awesome video!

  • @arthur2305
    @arthur2305 Před 3 lety

    4:28 Transport Fever LOOOOLL

  • @FlagAnthem
    @FlagAnthem Před 3 lety +2

    Simple: bring back the Karafuto prefecture

    • @listerstormablecartoonandt1103
      @listerstormablecartoonandt1103 Před 3 lety

      Purtroppo i Russi non vogliono cedere nemmeno un millimetro della loro terra, anche quelle quattro isole sperdute.
      L'unica soluzione è l'acquisto in ambito monetario da parte del Giappone

  • @aa2339
    @aa2339 Před 2 lety +3

    And yet they chose to invest in war instead.

  • @riverradioclub8478
    @riverradioclub8478 Před 3 lety

    There is Already maritime service from Japan to Vladivostok, with Rail service from there. If you want to Increase Capacity, a few more freighters, or work on the ports would be Much More cost effective. Of course, if the Artic Routes for Container Ships open up...

    • @gc3k
      @gc3k Před 3 lety

      At the same time, east Russia and north Japan are so close together, they can probably find another way to improve the maritime routes without physically connecting the two countries

    • @Lost-In-Blank
      @Lost-In-Blank Před 3 lety

      Rail transport is far faster than ships and far cheaper than air freight. It is the speed that makes rail attractive over ships.

  • @Katharsis540
    @Katharsis540 Před 3 lety

    Also ET3 Technology would mean from the UK to Japan in 1 hour.

  • @thelastdefenderofcamelot5623
    @thelastdefenderofcamelot5623 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Obviously, Russia recently named Japan as one of their targets and now we know why. They want Hokkaido. Their justification was that the Ainu people are being fairly mistreated when we barely have any left.

  • @jonaslibak1608
    @jonaslibak1608 Před 3 lety

    cool video. could you make one on the new island they are building in the sea right out of copenhagen it is called lynetteholmen 🇩🇰🏝

  • @funghi2606
    @funghi2606 Před 3 lety +32

    Russia want a develop East due to growing Chinese influence in the region

    • @hererov
      @hererov Před 3 lety

      Really? I live in russian far east. There is no chinese influence here.

    • @Lyenati
      @Lyenati Před 3 lety +3

      @@hererov he meant east Asia in general

    • @tigeriontigerion9112
      @tigeriontigerion9112 Před 3 lety

      @@hererov
      It sounds really odd though.

    • @funghi2606
      @funghi2606 Před 3 lety +4

      @Fatal Error Chinese have claim over Russian Far East ( which the Chinese do not shy about it). Meanwhile Russia and Chinese are today allies it’s a thing out of convenience against the American influence rather than a genuine one. The Russian and the Chinese have already had friction in the past ( Sino-Chinese split in the 50’, over Mongolia) if the Americans are not going to be as influential as today in the future, the Russian better be careful over their neighbour with a billion people next to a region with around 20 millions

    • @hererov
      @hererov Před 3 lety

      @@funghi2606 we are always ready to protect our land. Better worry about yourself.

  • @hsoepangkat2007
    @hsoepangkat2007 Před 3 lety +2

    This project will have to wait for another 200 years.

  • @hollywoodj500
    @hollywoodj500 Před 3 lety +20

    Russia should not give up those Islands to Japan. It will be a great mistake. Then US will put their bases to circle Russia. Japan will tell Russia that would never happen as soon as Russia gives them up Japan would let US put bases on those Islands. But remember what US told Russia about NATO would not move one inch eastward towards Russia. Now look NATO all over Russia's borders. Don't make that mistake a third time Russia.

    • @kurssmalla6182
      @kurssmalla6182 Před 3 lety +6

      Russia has introduced an amendment to the constitution that does not allow the alienation of territory. Economic interest is almost negligible for Russia, and that tunnel is much more in Japan's interest. Russia does not want to lose its security and territory for the sake of somewhat greater economic cooperation with Japan.

    • @lion_king8841
      @lion_king8841 Před 3 lety

      Land is sacred to russia

    • @GI876758
      @GI876758 Před 2 lety

      Then Russia can forget about the proposal since they are the one that proposed to Japan of this expensive circus project

  • @FirasTeinz
    @FirasTeinz Před 2 lety +2

    wow didnt know that! imagine being able to drive to Japan 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

    • @GRA11413
      @GRA11413 Před rokem

      you cant just tresspass japan, you would need a passport and stuff, plus the earthquakes it would be unlikely

  • @thebasketballhistorian3291

    100,000 = population of nearby areas of proposed Japan-Russia tunnel
    10,000,000 = population of nearby areas of proposed Japan-Korea tunnel that has been talked about for +100 years but never been built

  • @Katharsis540
    @Katharsis540 Před 3 lety +2

    Surprise that South Korea never considered the tunnel.

    • @nebelung1
      @nebelung1 Před 2 lety +1

      The relation between South Korea and Japan is also complicated, not as much as Russia-Japan but still

  • @IKEMENOsakaman
    @IKEMENOsakaman Před 3 lety +15

    Impossible unless US military leaves Japan.

  • @lubomirkotik8870
    @lubomirkotik8870 Před 3 lety

    Funny how you show building drawings on the table and talking about "tunnel proposal". :-))))))) You should put thinks together.

  • @Strohkopfs
    @Strohkopfs Před 3 lety +1

    50 billions for this? totally unfeasable. Just ship the goods.

  • @davidschultz1562
    @davidschultz1562 Před 3 lety

    Fun fact, the southern half of Sakhalin used to be part of Japan.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karafuto_Prefecture

    • @electro6202
      @electro6202 Před 3 lety

      I always wondered why we didn't just take all of it instead of just the southern part

    • @veleslav3996
      @veleslav3996 Před 3 lety

      @@electro6202 probably cuz u lack balls down there :)

  • @nanoguy-ob2tb
    @nanoguy-ob2tb Před 3 lety

    it can be strictly used for trade from tokyo all the way to china and Moscow but it would have been nice if it was populated tho it is a seismic zone

    • @sodinc
      @sodinc Před 3 lety

      central part of Japan is even more seismicly active

  • @aeasus
    @aeasus Před 3 lety

    Wow, Imagine driving from Japan to Panama o.0

  • @412StepUp
    @412StepUp Před 3 lety +1

    It seems that everyone wants to build all these tunnels, but nobody is actually building them.

  • @susumusumoto6221
    @susumusumoto6221 Před 3 lety

    Seria sensacional um túnel ligando Japão com a Rússia.

  • @bonniebrown4186
    @bonniebrown4186 Před 3 lety

    I think it would be a feat worth doing and the revenue and the profit and jobs building it as well as working at it after it is mostly a win win as well as a cash cow for all .

  • @demef758
    @demef758 Před 3 lety

    Large chasms that are plagued by innumerable fault lines are never a problem for jet airliners. That's why it's dumb to consider spending about $100B for a treacherous ground-based tunnel like this. It's like thinking a road designed for horse and carriage would be better than a superhighway for motorized vehicles.

  • @joon3900
    @joon3900 Před 3 lety +2

    Big fan of the channel! Been here since 20k!

  • @federationmusic
    @federationmusic Před 3 lety

    Ain't the proposal is the bridge, instead of a tunnel?

  • @anneeq008
    @anneeq008 Před 3 lety +1

    Not sure which is more bonkers..... The Russia to Japan tunnel or the proposed canal linking the black sea to Austria 🤔

    • @georgobergfell
      @georgobergfell Před 3 lety

      Austria is connected to the black sea by the river Danube

  • @blacked2987
    @blacked2987 Před rokem +1

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  • @fauzirahman3285
    @fauzirahman3285 Před 3 lety +5

    Exchanging the disputed islands for Japan's expertise in the tunnel seems to be a win-win for all and will see the tunnel being built.

  • @c10zane
    @c10zane Před 3 lety

    Don't see why not, it's a little more than 26 miles

  • @ahoraya1047
    @ahoraya1047 Před 3 lety

    It is not possible for Russia to give the Kuryl island as it would leave the Mainland without defense. But an agreement can be made for the two small islands in the Southern Kuryl which were already proposed decades ago.

    • @kurssmalla6182
      @kurssmalla6182 Před 3 lety

      Russia has introduced an amendment to the constitution that does not allow the alienation of territory. Economic interest is almost negligible for Russia, and that tunnel is much more in Japan's interest. Russia does not want to lose its security and territory for the sake of somewhat greater economic cooperation with Japan.

  • @london7369
    @london7369 Před 3 lety

    Is it a standard gauge railway?

    • @Lost-In-Blank
      @Lost-In-Blank Před 3 lety

      There is no world-wide standard gauge. Japan itself has 2 gauges and Russia has 3 gauges. But I think for rail-mounted 20- and 40-foot containers it would be a matter of aligning the loaded and unloaded trains on parallel tracks and having a series of small specialist cranes (spreaders) to lift the containers from the flat cars of one train to the other.