How to Saw Correctly - tips and tricks with a Japanese Pull saw
Vložit
- čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
- Get the Katz-Moses Magnetic Dovetail Jig and Stop Block here: lddy.no/stih
In this weeks woodworking skill builder we talk about how to cut correctly with a Dozuki (dovetail saw) and a Ryoba (double sided). I walk you through technique and tons of tips and tricks on how to get great results with a Japanese saw. Let me know what you’d like to see next. Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
Read the blog on this video: kmtools.com/blogs/news/japane...
----
My Favorite Dozuki Saw: lddy.no/stit
My Favorite Ryoba Saw: lddy.no/stiv
New Flush Trim Saw: lddy.no/stix
----
Buy the Katz-Moses Magnetic Dovetail Jig: lddy.no/stiz
The Katz-Moses Woodworking Apron: lddy.no/stir
I have Walnut Slabs for sale: lddy.no/stj0
Buy the Katz-Moses Stop Block: lddy.no/stiz
BitsBits is the BEST place to buy router bits: bit.ly/BitsBits USE CODE JKATZMOSES15 for 15% off
Total Boat Epoxy: bit.ly/2I3Q8m4 10% Discount code JKATZMO
----
Essential Woodworking Skills Playlist: • Essential Woodworking ...
----
Woodworking Joint of the Week Playlist: • Woodworking Joint of t...
----
Tool Tune Up Thursday Playlist: • Tool Tune Up Thursday
----
Check me out on social media:
jkatzmoses
www.Facebook.com/katzmoseswoodworking
patreon.com/katzmoseswoodworking
/ katzmoseswoodworkingshop
----
Tools I love:
The Katz-Moses Woodworking Apron: lddy.no/stir
My Favorite Dozuki Saw: lddy.no/stit
My Favorite Ryoba Saw: lddy.no/stiv
New Flush Trim Saw: lddy.no/stix
Razor Saw: amzn.to/2nm0FzG
Marking Gauge: amzn.to/2nlXLuQ
Marking Knife: amzn.to/2nm39Ok
Stanley Sweetheart Chisels: amzn.to/2mVMTkF
Knew Concepts Fret Saw: amzn.to/2FUDbYZ
Dewalt Planer Package: amzn.to/2thEf6O
Forrest 10” Combo Blade: amzn.to/2Fdaee3
Festool Tape Measure: amzn.to/2oS3cjD
Starrett 6” Combination Square: amzn.to/2oP3dVw
Woodstock 3 in 1 Shoulder Plane: amzn.to/2FgAS1A
Stanley Low Angle Jack Plane: amzn.to/2oV4I4O
Dewaxed Shellac Flakes: amzn.to/2FeqqYh
Abalone Inlay :amzn.to/2rjMTxe
Abalone Inlay Alternate: goo.gl/DHonFy
5 Minute Epoxy: amzn.to/2FijsSa
Triton 3 ¼ hp Router (with built in lift and edge guide incl): amzn.to/2LBw3Go
Kreg Router Plate: amzn.to/2A7oVNC
Triton Bushing Set: amzn.to/2A7pSpa
Bosch 1 HP Colt Router Set With Fixed and Plunge Base: amzn.to/2mHP1wY
Bosch Edge Guide: amzn.to/2uRRKs2
Bosch Bushings Set: amzn.to/2JUNRYb
Centering Cone: amzn.to/2OjgOAf
MY CNC MACHINES (I highly recommend both)
Bescutter Laser’s Website: bit.ly/bescutter
Avid CNCs of all shapes and sizes: bit.ly/3cdKdqA
----
Camera Gear:
Lumix GH5-s and main lens: amzn.to/2J49F7m
30mm Macro Lens: amzn.to/2GJXtTT
15mm Lens: amzn.to/2NafUox
50mm Lens I use for product shots: amzn.to/2mehs5y
Microphone: amzn.to/2IGjKIa
Lav Microphone: amzn.to/2Nb8SzY
Gimbal: amzn.to/2s9ZV0F
2nd CAMERA Canon 70d: amzn.to/2FiCEDq
Tripod: amzn.to/2HasNvK
Slider: amzn.to/2oNucSd
24MM Wide Angle/Macro Lens: amzn.to/2oSzzjh
50MM f/1.8 for those tight shots: amzn.to/2tpAoVm
10-18mm Lens for the wide shots: amzn.to/2FZrhNM - Jak na to + styl
My favorite Dozuki Dovetail saw - amzn.to/319nwis
My favorite Ryoba saw - amzn.to/2UIgajK
Inexpensive Dozuki Dovetail saw - amzn.to/2A2K0Wo
Inexpensive Ryoba Saw - amzn.to/318sCLK
New Flush Trim Saw - amzn.to/2ZRSGJO
I do my woodworking the old fashioned way measure once and cut twice.
I see you're a man of culture as well
I call guys like you, because I measure three times and still screw it up. Now metal I measure once cut short and use a shrinker/stretcher to get my 16th back
@@realityhurts8697 q*
Wait...you measure?
Can you please explain what measure once and cut twice means? Thanks in advance
That phrase should definitely be framed - "woodworking is about fixing your mistakes not, not making them". Great video.
Such a useful and well produced video, thanks so much! Also really strong narration style.
That reflection trick is awesome. Thank you. Keep stroking and blowing. Your doing a great job.
Got my Suizan Ryoba for the KM store thinking it might be handy. Holy crap, it's AMAZING! It's so much easier to keep plumb than a traditional Western push saw. Thanks, JKM. I can now stroke and blow like a pro. (Mind out of the gutter!)
so much gold in here, 'wood working is about fixing your mistakes, not about not making them' also a new mantra - stroke and blow
Woodworking is about fixing your mistakes.... thank you, that has helped my kiddos get over their fear of making mistakes.
With a pull saw, it's actually better to start the cut at the far end of the board, instead of the closest point. Part of the benefit of a pull saw, is it straightens the blade as you cut, but that only happens between the handle and where the blade is actually cutting the wood. So if you start the cut on the closest side of the board and extend it away from you, the tip of the blade is more prone to wobbling side to side, and can negatively affect your cut. Also, if you are going to cut all the way through a board, it's better to draw/scribe a square line all the way around the board, and then start the cut (maybe 1/4" deep) and then deepen the cut on all 4 sides until you cut through. The benefit here, is that you have the 1/4" kerf as the blade enters and leaves the cut, which helps to guide the blade as you cut. The video below explains this pretty well. Using this method with almost no hand saw experience, I was able to cut off a 4x4 (that I dimensioned square) almost perfectly, so I'm sure you could do even better. You might need to sign up for a free account on the site, but it's worth it. The guy is from Japan and trained under a Japanese master woodworker, so he really knows his stuff.
diyjapanesejoinery.com/video/how-to-improve-your-cross-cutting-technique/
Stroke then blow. Got it. 😂😂 I died when you said that. Makes you seem more personable. Easily my fav CZcams channel
After watching this I feel I have a shot at making square cuts, thanks!
I really liked the tip to keep the reflection of the board straight - thanks
11:23 that was a really good shot of keeping the saw square to the board.
Jonathan,
As a first time Japanese saw user, you kept me away from "Mr. Know-it-All"...they would be me. This an excellent, easily understood instructional. Thanks for setting me on the correct path. Best of health to you, Mr. Moses!
Cork
That reflection technique to keep it square is brilliant. Always learn something here.
When I started wood working I bought a western panel saw, a tenon saw and a dovetail saw. I also bought a set of Gyokucho Japanese saws. I used them equally and expected/hoped to prefer the Japanese saws. While the quality of the cut is always cleaner and needs less finishing with a Japanese saw, I find I cut more accurately with a western saw. I get by with the little dovetail and crosscut saw at my bench but it doesn’t satisfy me like using a western tenon or dovetail saw. I don’t get on with the ryoba at all, it’s been relegated to sheet material only, anything else seems to give a beautifully clean but seldom square cut. When they wear out, I won’t be replacing them.
I think I just prefer the push action, plate thickness and weight of western saws,
That's a very honest reply. You're not Japanese, and nothing obliges you to adopt these tools. One must always use the tools that one is most comfortable with. England and America made some fabulous hand tools, with excellent quality steel. There are some very good antique tool sites, where you can but some gems at a fairly reasonable price.
Happy woodworking.
To each his own! The Japanese handsaw and Western handsaw are two different solutions to the same problem, each one requiring a different technique. As well, if you are better accustomed to Western saws, then use those. I think that for cutting large pieces of wood quickly Western rip saws are more efficient.
Ooh love the boxes on the top shelf
Such a great video. I have 3 if these Saws. Can't wait to implement some of those techniques you shared in the video. One thing I love about these saws is you can cut wood while the neighbors are asleep and not wake them 😅
Total noob here. Trying to learn the basics in an effort to do a lot of my own work restoring the woodwork for the interior of my sailboat. I thought your video was very informative and concise. Thank you very much! Got my new saw and putting it to use!
Great job. I have found it easier with a Japanese pull saw to start my cut with a forward motion. Much easier and way less tearout for the start. As far as starting the cut with the cross cut side, absolutely! Again, nicely done! david
"Stroke and Blow " I'm remember that forever... lol
Cool, "We all want to be perfect. but that woodworking is all about fixing your mistakes."
Another great video. I love Japanese saws. I only have a couple Western saws, but I rarely use them. What you said about the sound of the cut is really important. That's why I never listen to music while I'm working because listening to the wood makes a lot of difference. I have both of your dovetail cutting jigs. Now that I'm older and my hands are a little more shaky, they are a fantastic help.
Love this, I always forget about the chiselling to get it started. I always cut with my Japanese saw one handed but I think I need to try two handed at some point. Thanks
Loved this video. Solved my dilemma on whether or not I needed a western style back saw vs one of these Japanese style pull saws. Thanks for all your awesome content!
Thanks for the tips. I love the shop dog clip too!
Thank you for putting your videos out there for us to watch. I can't thank you enough for everything I've learned
Damn, makes me want to saw something. Nicely done, good overview.
I have been struggling with this for months and out of the 20 or 30 videos I have watched I feel like this was the best. You really explained what you were doing and talked about positioning of the arms and body and it just actually made sense. So many other people making videos about this just say what they are thinking as they do it but don't explain why or any specifics. I feel like this video is really going to help. Thanks
I learned so much watching this presentation. A true Jedi Master.
Great video and instructions. Love the reflection tip. Mahalo for sharing! : )
Your channel is awesome. I’m always so thankful people like you are willing to share information like this.
Great video! After years of debating whether I would start woodwork again I decided last month to give it a go. Bought my first Japanese saw last week and been practicing enter since. These tips really help to get my cut even more accurate. Thanks
You improved my woodworking and pool game at the same time, great video and really well produced.
I know this is an older video, but again, thank you for the great advice on using the Japanese pull saws. I appreciate the tips on keeping the cuts straight. That is definitely my biggest challenge with hand sawing!
What an incredible video! I'm definitely getting one of those saws!
Just got a Suizan dovetail saw for Father's day. Did a couple of test cuts and was amazed. Then I watched this video so I probably won't mess up to badly when I do some real cuts soon. Thanks for posting, understanding the fundamentals is crucial.
Love your stuff! I bought two stop blocks from your store and they rock. Funny thing, not that I need instructions, but you shipped the dovetail instructions! And I have already bought your dovetail jig. Also like the shirt. Keep it up!
I love using my Japanese saw. Thanks for giving me some tips on how to use it better. I have a cheap Harbor Freight pull saw (please don't kill me) that I use for out-of-the-shop projects. With these tips, I'll get even better results now! Thank you!
Thank you, very helpful - I just bought my first inexpensive Japanese saw and now feel confident about trying it out.
Great video, I love my Suizan Ryoba saw.
I've never used a Japanese pull saw. I honestly had never even heard of that. And yet I deeply enjoyed this video. Thank you for the great work!
Your the man, Jonathan. I learn a lot from your videos. And I was glad to find out that i own that, Suizan ryoba. I just need to pick up one of the Suizan dovetail saws. Thanks for the great info.
Just purchased my first pull saw, thanks for helping to initiate me!
I love your videos, and your dovetail guide! Congratulations on the partnership with Suizan, they make really good saws. I hope they bless you with lots of tools and money, you’re definitely worth it!
I’ve purchased two Suizan saws because of your recommendations, I am very pleased with both and I will be purchasing more in the future. I really enjoy your videos, your instructions and tips are very valuable to a novice woodworker. Thank you for the tips.
man the chisel trick is sick
Wow. Making my first real project right now in my home workshop (read: bedroom) and this knife cut trick is going to change my life. Thank you!!!
Great video! Very informative. I love the Japanese hand saws so much, super easy intuitive and amazing results
Awesome, just picked up a Riyoba so locking myself up in the good ol' man-cave :) Thanks for a very helpful video!
Great video with the great Japanese handsaw tips.
Fantastic video - best I've seen! I pretty much use only Japanese saws now and had to learn most of this by doing, but worth re-watching as reminder of technique. Thanks!
Enjoyed the demo 👌
Thanks for the info Jonathan! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
Awesome video! I live in Japan so these are the tools I have the most access to. So it’s great to have a very approachable guide to some best practices with these tools
Congrats on the new partnership Jonathan and great video!
Really liked the mirror straightness trick! Thanks!
Love the knife wall technique!
Thanks for this video. A lot of useful knowledge for saw cutting here!!
What a great video! I find these saws soooo sharp I have to hold it back at the start to make it easier to use. Less effort when held back!
Fantastic man. Just bought a bunch of Japanese tools while in Japan. Can’t wait to use them
Ordered my 1:6 and 1:8 dovetail jigs 👌🏾
This was a huge help to me. It's funny how something that seems as basic as "how to saw" turned out to have so many tips and tricks. The reflection tip alone was well worth the watch. I went home after watching this and cut a bunch of perfect lines with my Japanese saw. I didn't even know the difference between the rip side and the cross-cut side previously! Many thanks for posting this, and I'm a subscriber now.
Jon, i just picked up the new ryoba, big fan, came across your channel recently, outstanding woodworking. You are awesome man. I look forward to being able to pull off some joinery like you!!
I love how my 2 favorite youtubers reference each other frequently. You and Paul have not only taught me a great deal you both motivate me to try new things. Thanks for sharing with us!
Thanks bud! When did Paul mention me? I'm such a fan boy that I would be honored to see that.
@@katzmosestools I have heard him mention you a few times actually. I believe one of the times was in a video about sharpening chisels? I rewatch alot of his videos so next time I catch it I will let ya know!
Congrats! Are we gonna have to call you Mr. Ambassador now?
Thanks! I got a perfectly straight cut! I used a bunch of things you mentioned.
Thanks, man! This is really helpful!
I love your square holster on your apron, pure badass.
I just bought two pull saw from lowes I'm glad I saw your video thanks bubba
AWESOME! Thanks for the tips!
Wow great demo. Very good tips thanks.
Loved all the tips, they will definitely help!
Awesome news, I’ll be purchasing those saws. And Jay has to much time on his hands to practice pool. 😁❤️👍
Just used my new Japanese hand saw for the first time to cut a dowel, and thanks to your tips, the cut looks better than the cut made by the hardware store supplier!
This is such an awesome video! This look like a technique I really want to get into. Thanks for this.
Thank you for this useful information!
Great tips; this will help in my future woodworking journey
Thank you soooooo much, you give great lessons. Subscribing!!!
Well done presentation. Worth watching. Thank you.
Thanks for the great information. Also, Good DOG!
thank you ! you are so lovely to watch !
Good stuff embassador Moses!;) has a nice ring to it those are some really nice saws I particularly like the ryoba too 2 for 1 deal and the Dozuki is good too congrats on the distributor look fwd to checking it out.
First of all, I want to thank you for the carefully prepared instructional video. I have periodically at different times in my life had to make different things for the house, such as panelling for a balcony, or a wooden shelving unit, and I use mostly non-mechanized tools, amateur tools, but I have never used nokogiri and Japanese tool methods. I have a good quality European quality cross cutter that came with a replaceable blade, and it's probably over 25 years old and retains its cutting sharpness and accuracy, although I haven't used it every five years either. I'm not sure if I buy a tool now I will be able to use it in another twenty years, but let my grandson do it.
Sorry for the long preface to the question. It's just that I recently bought a noname angle gauge which, to my surprise, measured 91.3° instead of 90°, which probably proves once again that our earth is not flat, but still spherical. I bought noname blades made of steel that rusted pittingly after six months in a moderate continental climate in room storage, and I understand that modern things are not meant to last forever.because the new saw is next to the one I bought when I was a quarter of a century younger, and next to the one my grandfather gave me. I really hope that Japanese saws, as well as the tradition of carpentry techniques, have retained their attitude towards the tool.
My habit is to deal with blades not less than 0.8 mm thick, and I am somewhat confused by how flexible and thin Japanese saws can be, although it provides high accuracy of cut, but the question of how long they will serve and what kind of reserve should be made if you set the volume of projects, for example on the total cutting length, and by durability for years of storage.
What can I learn about durability and MTBF about these tools, where can I find their characteristics in this regard? Thank you.
Great demonstration Jonathon. While I’m mostly a power tool user I’m finding the need more and more to perfect hand tools too.
I just picked up the long wooden Suzan saw before I saw this video. This makes me feel even better about my purchase! 😁
Obrigado pela dica, Jonathan. Serrar parece algo simples, mas sei que na prática não é. Algo acredito que meus cortes ficarão melhores. Ganhou um fã brasileiro. (Brazil)
Always suspect of Tubers who hawk "new" product lines, who sponsor them but, always heartened to see a manufacturer step up to a loyal user of their product and make it a win/win. Integrity means a lot to me. Great video ! I'll be looking into those Suizan saws.
Yeah man. I don't hawk anything but instead support brands I love. My integrity means everything to me. Without that I'm just an advertiser instead of a guy living his dream life doing what he loves.
You, sir, deserve much more subscribers for your excellent channel!
Great video! Very helpful!!
Excelente video y explicación!!
Love these saws
justice for the golden!!!!
6:44 into the video: It is better to start at the far end of the cut along the top until you have scored a shallow line across the top, then make a nearly vertical, similarly scored line on the near side of the board to the end of the desired cut line, then make a diagonal cut to connect the far end with the near face bottom of the cut. The saw will follow the scored lines very easily. Now, flip the board around and make a vertical scored line along the new near face and make a perfect finish to the cut because the saw wants to follow the existing cut on the blind side and the scored line on the near side. With practice, you can do this quite quickly and with greater accuracy than your method. Just mark the cut on THREE sides, pick up the saw, score, score, cut, flip score, cut, straight as a laser. Always give the saw guidance on the blind side with a cut to follow. This is always more accurate than relying on your arm to make the cut straight.
That is a great method!
im a simple man,
i hear a J. Bates reference, i upvote!
@jaybates is one hell of a pool player
i love japanese saws,thats awesome apron and video
great job Jonathan
Great info mate. Thanks
Great review thank you
Thank you Katz 😊