More dishonest COPE to protect Rings of Power by attacking Jackson trilogy

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Komentáře • 818

  • @saltzkruber732
    @saltzkruber732 Před 2 měsíci +366

    Those people need to keep their forked tongue behind their teeth

    • @kevinmorrice
      @kevinmorrice Před 2 měsíci +13

      "cutting out the tongue does not stop idiots from thinking there right" - my nan

    • @chuckchan4127
      @chuckchan4127 Před 2 měsíci +18

      I'd rather just bankrupt them.
      And before someone says "but muh innocents at the company".
      No. If you work for a woke company, you are complicit.

    • @jenjenhocho3188
      @jenjenhocho3188 Před 2 měsíci +14

      They should "Go back to the shadow."

    • @lordzedd343
      @lordzedd343 Před 2 měsíci

      These people need to fall into the nothingness that awaits them and their master.

  • @oldmangreywolf6892
    @oldmangreywolf6892 Před 2 měsíci +211

    Don't forget, you are racist if you bring up THEIR discrimination.

    • @fercho.7776
      @fercho.7776 Před 2 měsíci

      THIS!! all these pseudoactivists are playing both hands here. being r@cist and the preemptively accusing anyone who questions their sayings.

    • @Relkond
      @Relkond Před 2 měsíci +10

      "You keep using that word. I'm not sure it means what you think it means."

    • @pheunithpsychic-watertype9881
      @pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@Relkond just saw that yesterday with Carry Elwes doing a q/a.

    • @DeathsjesterKMNP
      @DeathsjesterKMNP Před 2 měsíci +7

      Those people also don't understand "diversity" or "tolerance" even though they throw them around constantly.

    • @Marinealver
      @Marinealver Před 2 měsíci +3

      That is the entire point of "Anti-Racisim".

  • @haleyschreiter9746
    @haleyschreiter9746 Před 2 měsíci +117

    It's ironic that, when mentioning the "lack of diversity," the article shows a picture of the Fellowship - literally the most diverse assembly of characters within world. The theme of interracial cooperation is already there loud and strong!

    • @jessehamm3573
      @jessehamm3573 Před 2 měsíci +29

      Indeed. But we shouldn't expect much insight from the dilweeds who wrote that article, as their interpretation of "diversity" is so painfully superficial.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 Před 2 měsíci +30

      Yeah, but skin-tone, gender and sexuality are the only kind of diversity that matters to a particularly group of people who have way too much influence over the modern world.

    • @Cyrrex91
      @Cyrrex91 Před 2 měsíci +36

      @@fattiger6957 gosh, this annoys me so much, 3 people can grow up in the same neighbourhood and get indoctrinated at the same college, but they are "diverse" because one is a girl, one is brown/black and one is gay.
      Yet 3 white guys from different parts of the world (Europe, Australia, South Africa) are seen as not diverse because people are racist. SMH.

    • @kaczok1985
      @kaczok1985 Před 2 měsíci +5

      You don't understand. Three Somalis are more diverse than a Swede, a Pole, and a Greek.

    • @icarusjumped2719
      @icarusjumped2719 Před 2 měsíci +7

      ​@@Cyrrex91I think thats what annoy people most about this ideology. It is quite literally skin deep.

  • @thedmdidit9842
    @thedmdidit9842 Před 2 měsíci +78

    Merry and Pippin were the first to follow Aragorn in the charge at the black gate. Merry and Pippin helped Treebeared see that the ents needed to fight. Pippin saved Faramir's life. Merry saved Eowyn's life/made it possible for her to kill the witch-king. Merry and Pippin had the least obligation in going on the adventure to begin with and CHOSE to go. They were kidnapped and dragged along by orcs because they chose to be a distraction to help frodo escape, then split up and pippin was dragged by gandalf to gondor, because pippin chose to mess with the palantier. Every time they got dragged along, it was a consequence of their choice.

    • @luckyrockmore2796
      @luckyrockmore2796 Před 2 měsíci +8

      In the books they were also buried years later alongside Aragon in Minis Tirith if I'm not mistaken. That right there is an awesome honor imo.

  • @anom5389
    @anom5389 Před 2 měsíci +227

    I don’t even have to read that article of “why lotr has aged badly” to know this was just an article to complain about diversity, or lack thereof.

    • @Raximus3000
      @Raximus3000 Před 2 měsíci +21

      Which mean "too many white straight men."

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 Před 2 měsíci +31

      I've seen many Hong Kong, Korean, and Japanese movies in my life. I've never had a problem that there were only Chinese, Korean and Japanese people in them. Any normal person wouldn't, even with fantasy movies. Why do people have an issue with a fantasy movie set in a mythical ancient Britain?

    • @Grim-Fate
      @Grim-Fate Před 2 měsíci

      @@Raximus3000 How DARE they have so many caucasian straight men in an medieval western Europe setting, where are the wheelchair cripple, blind, half deaf half African Latino Elves? Damn them and their authentic depiction of people in such a world.

    • @AteshSeruhn
      @AteshSeruhn Před 2 měsíci +4

      You must be psychic😂

    • @anom5389
      @anom5389 Před 2 měsíci +23

      @@fattiger6957 me either, it’s the double standard. “Medieval Europe was always diverse” is the lie they say. Because one or two examples found every other 100 years or so justifies calling Medieval Europe diverse 😂.

  • @InkyMuste
    @InkyMuste Před 2 měsíci +42

    "The story takes a while to get started" -wait until the writer of this article actually reads the book and realizes that in it like 17 years passes before Frodo even leaves the Shire after inheriting the ring. The movie is actually speeding along in the beginning but is still very well paced.

  • @draxrdax7321
    @draxrdax7321 Před 2 měsíci +145

    Are they delusional or are they doing this to spite the giant LotR movie fanbase? 3 movies that are considered being the greatest trilogy ever made, and some lunatic at CBR thinks it "aged poorly". Even the 25 year old visual effects are better than the garbage from Rings of Power. Are they ok?

    • @aeroprime3322
      @aeroprime3322 Před 2 měsíci +10

      Whether they are OK or not they are still taking their own credibility and setting it on fire.

    • @innocentbystander3317
      @innocentbystander3317 Před 2 měsíci +13

      ​@@aeroprime3322
      They had cred? Where did they get it from and how did they earn it? I think I'm going to press X to doubt..

    • @ViolentMessiah666
      @ViolentMessiah666 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@innocentbystander3317 to be fair they did have cred back in the day when they were just a comic news site. But that was a decade ago, before they went full woke access media shill

    • @bradmiles1984
      @bradmiles1984 Před 2 měsíci

      @@innocentbystander3317 They have no cred, CBR is slowly becoming the new buzzfeed along with Screenrant and all those other sites that do these lists which honestly are all probably written by AI

    • @christophergillette7167
      @christophergillette7167 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Honestly, your use of the word “lunatic” feels perfect. It’s painful to see a deluded writer exposing their terrible taste to the world.

  • @Avarn388
    @Avarn388 Před 2 měsíci +181

    Article: 15 ways LOTRs has aged poorly.
    Me: That’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off.
    There’s reason why 25 years later it’s still beloved. Timeless masterpieces.

    • @MannyNamiro
      @MannyNamiro Před 2 měsíci +16

      Their goal is to gather clicks, not write a factually correct article. So, yes, the strategy is paying off in that regard.

    • @innocentbystander3317
      @innocentbystander3317 Před 2 měsíci +7

      ​@@MannyNamiro
      Blatantly lying hasn't really paid off as a long-term strategy by very powerful and rich established media conglomerates, but I'm sure you're right and it will be (D)ifferent for these small disposable media outlets... 😂

    • @hardlife3844
      @hardlife3844 Před 2 měsíci +7

      It's a bold stategy. BOLD not bolt

    • @marcz2903
      @marcz2903 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@hardlife3844perfidious autocorrect strikes again! 😂

    • @daz2742
      @daz2742 Před 2 měsíci

      It's a bold strategy, there's fewer endings in the movie than the book.

  • @fenris5932
    @fenris5932 Před 2 měsíci +55

    The funny part about their point on the Orcs is that the orcs are literally described in the Silmarillion iirc as potentially the greatest victims of Sauron and Morgoth. They were abducted and twisted into a mockery of life, a creature that only feels joy from violence and cruelty and can form no meaningful attachments. Most things that make life worth living can't be enjoyed by Orcs, which is a horrific thing to do to essentially an entire new species. But no, they're just evil because they're black lmao.

    • @TheSeth256
      @TheSeth256 Před 2 měsíci

      I disagree with the statement that orcs can be even characterised as black. Their features don't particularly resemble any race and many resemble typical evil white men far more.

  • @cp1cupcake
    @cp1cupcake Před 2 měsíci +93

    I find it very ironic that the two first issues mentioned are inherently contradictory. They are complaining that the movie had a bunch of ending and then about the changes made during the adaptation.
    Hint hint, the ending in the books drags on a lot more than in the films.

    • @frankvandorp9732
      @frankvandorp9732 Před 2 měsíci +15

      That's what makes these articles so grating, they don't make sense, but the writers literally don't care to have it make sense. They just wrote it for the clicks, because they have the job to bring traffic to whatever rag they're writing for.

    • @Greshgore
      @Greshgore Před 2 měsíci +3

      Exactly, heck I was disappointed that we DIDN'T get to see the battle for the Shire etc. Would have been much more satisfying than just having Grima shank Saruman.

    • @Nammjahtan
      @Nammjahtan Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@Greshgore That is the one thing I really missed as well. The Scouring of the Shire was such an important event for Sam, Merry and Pippin as it finished their character arcs. For Merry and Pippin it showed just how much they had grown as individuals and how they were no longer children but men. And it's thanks to Sam's painstaking gardening that the Shire was able to recover as well and as quick as it did. The story even shows just how much the burden of the Ring effected Frodo. But the Scouring was also important for all of Hobbiton as it showed them that they NEEDED to concern themselves with the outside world as the outside world could and likely would affect them.

    • @WJS774
      @WJS774 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@Nammjahtan They're not Men, they're Hobbits. 😛

    • @Nammjahtan
      @Nammjahtan Před 2 měsíci

      @@WJS774 haha you know what I meant :)

  • @ViperChief117
    @ViperChief117 Před 2 měsíci +100

    There’s no defending this nonsense. When it was a pile of trash from the start. I didn’t bother watching Rings of Power and I could’ve.

    • @azariasthelast
      @azariasthelast Před 2 měsíci +5

      Politically correct does not equal quality and I don’t know why these people continue to act like it does.

    • @IMRavnos
      @IMRavnos Před 2 měsíci

      What part of it did you dislike, aside from minorities in it? I have yet to see a constructive criticism. Just manbabies parroting each other and thinking that if you yell “woke” enough it proves something.
      I watched it just to see what all the crying was about and while I found it to be a very mixed bag and overall kind of meh, I sure as hell did not see all of the weird takes you hear about from deranged chuds.
      GRANTED
      Trying to prop up the inferior show by attacking the Trilogy is pretty fucking sus.

    • @jayne775
      @jayne775 Před 2 měsíci

      I don't know if you're interested in the facts, but the article makes no defence of Rings of Power. Rings of Power was several years off when this was written, so it makes no qualitative comments; it simply says other adaptations are inevitable (which they are). Shad has inserted Rings of Power into this discussion of a very old article (reformatted, not rewritten in March 2024) because he knows doing so will get views.

    • @MrPablosek
      @MrPablosek Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@jayne775 Doesn't matter a single bit. Half of the points the article brings up are invalid anyway and have zero relation to "aging poorly".
      Plus they put rings of power under their point about "remakes and reboots" while everyone knew it was gonna be dogcrap from the first trailer they revealed. AND right under that a link to an article called "Everything we know about rings of power season 2" which DOES fit into the "Amazon Is Already Working on New Lord Of The Rings Projects" line.
      Edit: Not to mention that the article's date is not mentioned anywhere, all it has is "UPDATED MAR 27, 2024" and that very same date also shows when you google the article, so it's easy to confuse it for a new article (which is backed up by the fact that Shad mentions in the video itself that he sees this article as a way to defend rings of power, he simply thought it was fresh)
      1.5 years ago the article also had only "10 ways" instead of "15" (because reddit posts mention this article with 10 in the title instead of 15) meaning they added more BS as the time went on, so no, the "update" was not just a "reformat"

    • @IMRavnos
      @IMRavnos Před 2 měsíci

      @@jayne775 grifters gonna grift. You do not need facts to anger chuds.

  • @BetaRayBill32
    @BetaRayBill32 Před 2 měsíci +53

    I was not expecting a LotR video to turn into a sneaky Twilight video.

  • @ririhoshino
    @ririhoshino Před 2 měsíci +36

    The really funny thing is that CBR wrote a similar article last year called "10 ways lord of the rings aged poorly". guess they need to reboot their own articles too;)

    • @RoseBaggins
      @RoseBaggins Před 2 měsíci +3

      Yeah, I was wondering about that as I recall reading that one and saw their coverage of it. I was starting to think this was a reupload.

    • @ririhoshino
      @ririhoshino Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@RoseBaggins they added 5 more reasons;P

    • @kimhusby7810
      @kimhusby7810 Před 2 měsíci

      Agreed. I guess they'll reupload this article with some minor changes every year. That way they can try and influence the younger generations - those who have not seen it yet - into disliking the trilogy more. These woke commies are sick and evil!

    • @jayne775
      @jayne775 Před 2 měsíci

      The article was last updated several years ago, and reformatted in March 2024. Shad has indeed covered it before. It makes no judgement on Rings of Power - Rings of Power hadn't been released yet. It simply says Rings of Power will exist. Maybe Shad should reboot his content - or maybe he's putting out the most flimsy, no-effort content because he knows pretending someone has defended Rings of Power by attacking Jackson will spark anger and garner views.

  • @paddopadderson9688
    @paddopadderson9688 Před 2 měsíci +35

    Literally 76 mins into the two towers extended edition in my movie marathon as we speak.
    How dare they

    • @engineerdeluxe
      @engineerdeluxe Před 2 měsíci +1

      I'm at 3h11. I have to admit gimli aragorn and legolas have plot armor in the helms deep battle and the movie starts a bit slow. But I still love it because of everything else 😊

  • @johnjay370
    @johnjay370 Před 2 měsíci +32

    The article says LotR had bad VFXs but then shows a picture of a cross dissolve.

  • @Ninja_Tude
    @Ninja_Tude Před 2 měsíci +21

    A quote, from the fellowship via saruman, do you know how the Orcs first came to be..... they were elves once, taken by the dark Powers tortured mutated ruined

  • @Knight_Astolfo
    @Knight_Astolfo Před 2 měsíci +28

    No one knew the Necromancer was Sauron until Gandalf infiltrated Dol Guldur and found Thorin's father (one of the seven Dwarf Lords who was given a ring) just before he died. People really do reduce Tolkien to LotR, and forget that there's a whole universe - Sauron isn't even the big bad. The Necromancer could have been another wraith, like the Witch-King, or it could have been simply an unrelated evil being. All such perceived "low int" on the part of the White Council is due to the adaptation, not the actual implications of the story. The adaptation implies they don't know when they launch the attack on Dol Guldur, but the lore implies they knew and timed the attack to keep Sauron from aiding Smaug.
    Also, the adaptation of the Hobbit is still 1000% more watchable than RoP.

    • @Grandwigg
      @Grandwigg Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@EcardEcardian*Solar prominence unfiltered with magnification for the same duration

  • @richardsanchez5444
    @richardsanchez5444 Před 2 měsíci +34

    20:33 the fkk they talking about?? Theres men, dwarves, elves, hobbits, orcs, uruks. Everyone's included.

    • @smarmar400
      @smarmar400 Před 2 měsíci

      I think their gripe is that all the races are played by white actors. If the critics were actually fans of LotR they would realize that multiple races are represented in the story. smh

  • @richardsanchez5444
    @richardsanchez5444 Před 2 měsíci +21

    26:33 Tolkien's world had some badass women. Aragorns mom, gilrain, eowyn, arwen, luthien, galadriel, they all do something super important.

  • @lukeblundell5610
    @lukeblundell5610 Před 2 měsíci +12

    A Dúnedain, elf, dwarf, man, several Hobbits, a pony and a Maiar obviously isn't enough of a diverse group for some.

  • @theshawnmccown
    @theshawnmccown Před 2 měsíci +14

    You nailed it. These companies don't do honest journalism anymore. Everything is a smoke screen for their agendas.

  • @Jakegothicsnake
    @Jakegothicsnake Před 2 měsíci +85

    Since his initial departure, Oz has been making up BIG time for his quota!

    • @KoaCharvel
      @KoaCharvel Před 2 měsíci

      Over the years, he has been proven right about the amount of marxist/communist push in media and more.

  • @M0butu
    @M0butu Před 2 měsíci +10

    Lord of the Rings: aged like a Michelangelo
    Rings of Power: aged like a Mussolini

  • @RBL13
    @RBL13 Před 2 měsíci +10

    They say the ending drags on, but then say changes from the book are bad. The 'multiple endings' are how it is in the book. Can't have it both ways.

  • @xxxlonewolf49
    @xxxlonewolf49 Před 2 měsíci +41

    Dredd 'reboot' the Karl Urban movie was AMAZING compared to the Stalone version.

    • @user-tz8gx7mx3h
      @user-tz8gx7mx3h Před 2 měsíci +14

      I don't even consider the Stallone version to be a Judge Dred movie. He took his damn helmet off...
      To bad the Karl Urban version hasn't gotten more love or another movie... damn shame.

    • @egillskallagrimson5879
      @egillskallagrimson5879 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Urban's Dredd is awesome BUT... it's a rip off from Garet Evans' The Raid movie which is also a very cool Oriental martial arts movie with Iko Uwais as the lead actor, it is why the guy has become somehow known in hollywood.

    • @bradmiles1984
      @bradmiles1984 Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@egillskallagrimson5879 You think Garet was the first to have a building with enemies to get thru each floor? Also there were very similar storylines in the comics which predate the Raid by decades.

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I think you're right about it being a great film but didn't successfully 'reboot' the franchise- the most successful thing I can think of is maybe Dr. Who.
      I think Joker was very good and a real 'reboot' so to speak.
      I think a reboot is distinguishable from a 'remake' such as titanic for example.
      Readaptations I think maybe also should be considered as slightly different, too.
      I'd consider the new terminator and prometheus films reboots even if they aren't remakes.

    • @bradmiles1984
      @bradmiles1984 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@mandowarrior123 Dr Who fell off a cliff and Joker wasn't a reboot. It's just an elseworlds universe not connected to either the Batman Universe or main DC universe. So what is it rebooting?

  • @thedmdidit9842
    @thedmdidit9842 Před 2 měsíci +19

    None of the visual effects feel OUT OF PLACE in LOTR. It all feels like it fits. This is why the original star wars effects work as well. They may be aged, but they did not age poorly.

  • @sarahgould5435
    @sarahgould5435 Před 2 měsíci +26

    Remaking LOTR is like remaking El Cid: it might be enjoyable, but only one version will still be shared and sought-after 50 years later.

  • @AscendantStoic
    @AscendantStoic Před 2 měsíci +16

    Sounds like an article written by Wormtongue, despicable 😠

  • @Bruttos94
    @Bruttos94 Před 2 měsíci +35

    My local cinema in Greece released a LOTR extended edition marathon and the room was full. So CBR can suck it.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Před 2 měsíci +9

      WB still hates money and has not re-released LOTR, they would completely dominate anything this year

  • @AmorVim
    @AmorVim Před 2 měsíci +42

    Tom Bombadil's removal is perfectly understandable IMO

    • @funkydiscogod
      @funkydiscogod Před 2 měsíci +3

      It was a silly character to even include in the books.

    • @Taiko206
      @Taiko206 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Fact is that even Christopher Lee himself said it was sad, but very understandable why Bombadil was left out.

    • @John-fk2ky
      @John-fk2ky Před 2 měsíci +6

      @tmdelacrush why it’s there is pretty simple. It’s a breather after all the “yikes” stuff that the Hobbits just went through and establishes that there are some things in the world that are just plain weird. However, it’s also pretty easy to cut out if you also cut out the barrow-wight scene.

    • @alexmashkin863
      @alexmashkin863 Před 2 měsíci

      Understandable, yes, also inexcusable if you treat the movies as adaptation. I think of them as a fanfiction so I can enjoy the movies without thinking how they butchered a lot of what the books were about

    • @BetaRayBill32
      @BetaRayBill32 Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@@alexmashkin863 You seem to be having trouble with the word "adaptation". It doesn't mean every word of the book is on the screen as that's an insanely high standard.

  • @HarryBrownhole
    @HarryBrownhole Před 2 měsíci +16

    'Countless Reasons Rangs of Poower Isn't LOTR And Won't Age At All'.😝
    And this article aged badly as soon as it was published.🤡👹💩🔥

  • @Mare_Man
    @Mare_Man Před 2 měsíci +5

    I knew people were gonna start jumping at the opportunity to tarnish Tolkien's work the moment Christopher died.

  • @Xearrik
    @Xearrik Před 2 měsíci +10

    Speaking of power fantasy, I think it's interesting that the modern female power fantasy is proving how powerful they are so that they can prove to the world that they don't need men.
    Where as the male power fantasy has always remained the same. Being strong enough to protect the ones you care about and earning the respect of them and others. This is the "toxic" fantasy that they have tried to purge from entertainment to be replaced with the selfish "i need no man" fantasy...

  • @frankvandorp9732
    @frankvandorp9732 Před 2 měsíci +40

    I think LOTR got better with age.
    When it just came out, I was a teenager who already read the books and although I loved the movies, I was still critical of a lot of choices Jackson made.
    But 25 years later, we compare those movies with the trash Hollywood puts out now. And that REALLY drives home how bad movies can get, and how great the LOTR trilogy really was.

    • @thecornerkid402
      @thecornerkid402 Před 2 měsíci +8

      My wife and I showed it to our two oldest this past December and after fellowship we looked at each other and said, “they don’t make movies like that anymore.”

    • @Tallorian
      @Tallorian Před měsícem +1

      I'm still critical of some choices by PJ (e.g. don't tell me Faramir didn't get character assassinated in the movie) because things like that are based on logical analysis of facts and comparison to the source material rather than time that has passed. And those choices might have foreshadowed that lore travesty and clown sh!tshow we got in The Hobbit.
      But all its flaws aside, one would be extremely dishonest to claim that LotR wasn't an epic and captivating trilogy of a quality unimaginable from Hollywood these days, or that it didn't do justice to Tolkien. It was the best movie trilogy ever made when it came out, and it still is.

  • @AnnaMarianne
    @AnnaMarianne Před 2 měsíci +12

    The different races of Middle-earth symbolise the different aspects of the human species, and how we see ourselves. We often imagine the best that we could be, what we could become without our limitations. That's the Elves. They're the peak performance of humanity. The Orcs are the opposite, the lowest depth humanity can sink. Which is why Tolkien said of his time in WW1 to that "we were all Orcs there". And the Hobbits famously stand for the common, ordinary people of humanity - the "little people" who do great things, because we humans have great strenght hidden within us.

    • @DredZach
      @DredZach Před 2 měsíci +2

      And don't forget the Dwarfs representing the industrious side of humanity, manufacturing (forging), harvesting earth's resources (mining), building up infrastructure (the dwarven halls) and pursuing wealth for its own sake (hoarding gold and gems).

  • @Gladerunner2113
    @Gladerunner2113 Před 2 měsíci +13

    I'm always reminded that one of Peter Jacksons' cut scenes for Fellowship was Arwen showing up at both Lothlorien, and the Battle of Helmsdeep. Apparently, the Tolkien forums caught wind of it and immediately derided it as a bad idea, and thankfully PJ listened and pivoted well away from it.
    And yet if the dark forces of DEI were to remake Lord of the Rings, you just know they would make Arwen a part of the fellowship and an obligatory girlboss.

    • @richardsanchez5444
      @richardsanchez5444 Před 2 měsíci +5

      They did it with rings of crap. How dare they even associate it with LoTR. Galadriel never wielded a sword.

  • @michaelsorensen7567
    @michaelsorensen7567 Před 2 měsíci +27

    You're forgetting Shad, these are the people that say Cheddar Man was black

  • @christophergillette7167
    @christophergillette7167 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Artist: Make something fake seem real
    Activist pretending to be an artist: Make real things feel fake
    When you cram people, things, and ideas into situations where they don’t fit, you undermine your own message and just annoy everyone

  • @nima266
    @nima266 Před 2 měsíci +25

    Rings of power 🤮

  • @Senior-Donjusticia
    @Senior-Donjusticia Před 2 měsíci +17

    17:40
    Are you TRYING to sabotage your own argument with this visual?!?!
    Merry and Pippin, who yes, get captured by the Orks and a prisoners for a time, then manage to escape and get rescued by Treebeard. Then, over a long process, they manage to convince Treebeard to travel south to see the devastation Sarumon has committed, thereby leading to the Ent’s attack on Isengard!

    • @KalousTheGuy
      @KalousTheGuy Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@tmdelacrush
      Ngl, I was surprised to see someone correct that lmao

    • @AnnaMarianne
      @AnnaMarianne Před 2 měsíci +4

      Don't forget Merry insisting to get to help in the war & ending up saving Éowyn, and Pippin offering to serve Denethor to show gratefulness for Boromir's sacrifice & ending up saving Faramir. Who end up together, strenghtening the alliance between Gondor & Rohan.

  • @swordrush
    @swordrush Před 2 měsíci +6

    This weekend my wife and I began rewatching LOTR. If anything, I want to see people make *more* movies like these.

  • @user-ie2mr7gg5o
    @user-ie2mr7gg5o Před 2 měsíci +2

    I like it how Oz just casually mentions that's he's waiting for the End of Times to come.

  • @dxmxrxsbxxckthxwxxdxlf3931
    @dxmxrxsbxxckthxwxxdxlf3931 Před 2 měsíci +1

    They forgot to mention that half the time, Orlando didn't know that the cameras were rolling and made strange faces 😅😅😅

  • @Madmax45247
    @Madmax45247 Před 2 měsíci +2

    That number 15 upsets me to my core. Those "many endings" are the most emotionally resonant part of the entire trilogy and I literally cry every time I see them.

  • @robertedgar7497
    @robertedgar7497 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Man they dont have a clue what they are saying in that article its like they never watched the Movies, 23 years later and the movies still are perfect and i rewatch them every year. Who ever tries to remake the trilogy is destined to fail

  • @brandonsheffield9873
    @brandonsheffield9873 Před 2 měsíci +17

    The Orcs were the whitest ad most british characters. I never thought they were black, hispanic. Lol.

  • @spyrofrost9158
    @spyrofrost9158 Před 2 měsíci +4

    "Orcs were typecast!"
    Probably won't say anything about the orcs intentionally being made super white in RoP

  • @MerlosTheMad
    @MerlosTheMad Před 2 měsíci +12

    04:00 uggh dont talk about wheel of time. I try so hard to forget they adapted it and wasted everyone's time and money

  • @brendanmorgan109
    @brendanmorgan109 Před 2 měsíci +2

    While Boromir was the only member of the fellowship to permanently die, don't forget King Theoden's death as well. That's another hero that perished.

  • @quailstudios
    @quailstudios Před 2 měsíci +3

    The scouring of the shire would have been a good addition to the LOTR movies. That would have given these people more to complain about. 😊 They don't understand the books/story that Tolkien wrote. I just ignore ROP. Haven't watched even one minute of it.

  • @fattiger6957
    @fattiger6957 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Whenever someone creates something indefensibly bad, its fans always try to defend it by tearing down what came before. And it never works.

  • @aetherial87
    @aetherial87 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I remember that feeling as a kid back when LOTR came out.
    "Wow, movies can do that?"
    Yes, once.

  • @jaydenriemer3970
    @jaydenriemer3970 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Funny how the writers of this article mention the hobbit but don't mention the orcs wearing helmets extremely similar to the Thracian helmet, use pikes similar to the sarissa, and helmets similar to the Roman centurions, with metal instead of feathered plumes. But no the orcs are black.

  • @DarkSide_Gaming21338
    @DarkSide_Gaming21338 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Even though the movies may not be perfect you can feel the love and attention given to them. You can tell that they wanted to respect the themes, teachings and lessons of the material they were adapting.

  • @JonathanRossRogers
    @JonathanRossRogers Před 2 měsíci +2

    BTW, Tolkien struggled with question of whether orcs could be redeemed.

  • @howardhavardramberg7160
    @howardhavardramberg7160 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Lord of the Rings don’t even age like wine, wine will eventually sour. Lord of the Rings are timeless. Timeless.
    Rings of Power? Aged like milk from the beginning.

    • @kanrakucheese
      @kanrakucheese Před 2 měsíci +2

      Sour cream and cheese can be great though. RoP ages like used plastic: Garbage now, garbage in thousands of years.

  • @DrunkGandalf
    @DrunkGandalf Před 2 měsíci +2

    Lets get theses gents to 200k+ ASAP!!!

  • @thedmdidit9842
    @thedmdidit9842 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Oz, I get the joke that Legolas is the only name he doesn't say when waking up after Mount Doom. But, Legolas is the only character that doesn't say a single word to him in the films(and visa versa) out of the fellowship characters. He genuinely may not have remembered Legolas's name. 🤣🤣

    • @TooneySA
      @TooneySA Před 2 měsíci

      He says And you have my bow, in the fellowship forming scene

    • @thedmdidit9842
      @thedmdidit9842 Před 2 měsíci

      @@TooneySA I guess that counts as speaking to him haha. Fair point. They didn't really get to know each other at all was what I meant.

  • @cinhh
    @cinhh Před 2 měsíci +3

    "My son!"
    Oz is back! I'm so happy.

  • @officerbucktuddrussel394
    @officerbucktuddrussel394 Před 2 měsíci +5

    20:35 Confirmed. We could meet Insectoid Aliens from millions of lightyears away tommorow and CBR wouldn't call them diverse simply for the face that their chitin is the same colour as white humans skin.

  • @MiroslavBaldzhiev
    @MiroslavBaldzhiev Před 2 měsíci +10

    A single time a reboot has been better: Dredd 2012

    • @presleybaldwin3756
      @presleybaldwin3756 Před 2 měsíci +1

      One of my favorite movies.

    • @trfinley7076
      @trfinley7076 Před 2 měsíci +4

      What about the 1982 version of The Thing vs the 1950s version?

    • @presleybaldwin3756
      @presleybaldwin3756 Před 2 měsíci

      @@trfinley7076 My gosh, I don't remember a 1950's version. I'm going to have to see that ASAP. But you can never go wrong with the Kurt Russell version, he's awesome and so is the movie.

    • @ryananderson4614
      @ryananderson4614 Před 2 měsíci

      The reboot of 13 ghosts is not a great movie, but it blows the previous one away simply by being able to realize the ghosts with technology.

    • @funtourhawk
      @funtourhawk Před 2 měsíci

      uh Dune anyone?

  • @TibiConstantine
    @TibiConstantine Před 2 měsíci +6

    People who defend Rings of Power must have some awesome echo chambers.🤣or should I say coping chambers.

  • @Riftrender
    @Riftrender Před 2 měsíci +142

    Joe McCarthy was right.

    • @ArrakisHeir88
      @ArrakisHeir88 Před 2 měsíci +8

      So was Rockwell

    • @Raximus3000
      @Raximus3000 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Elaborate, i do not know about him and i do not want to spend several minutes looking it up.(no negative feelings i just want to know seriously)

    • @Serahpin
      @Serahpin Před 2 měsíci

      @@Raximus3000 czcams.com/video/ZOtinTlx7yo/video.html

    • @ArrakisHeir88
      @ArrakisHeir88 Před 2 měsíci +33

      @@Raximus3000 he was a guy who was saying our institutions were being overrun by socialist people and the solution was to use the government to remove these people from their positions before it got this bad

    • @Sensorium19
      @Sensorium19 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Raximus3000 Joe McCarthy, a US politician in the 1950s, warned of communist infiltration in Hollywood, media and other areas of American life. He's popularly seen now as a symbol of making a political witch hunt, but people on the rightwing side of politics now increasingly recognize that he was correct in his assertions.

  • @YtheTie
    @YtheTie Před 2 měsíci +1

    I actually LOVED the Ending with the fellowship and Frodo in the bed.
    I was constantly back and forth with these characters that I almost forgot how long they havent seen each other. Also the slow motion gave me as the viewer time to rhink about what happened to them while they where appart (Boromirs Death, Gandalfs rebirth, Merry becoming a night, Frodo getting stabbed by the spider and many more).

    • @WJS774
      @WJS774 Před 2 měsíci

      You have to remember how stupid and lacking in reflection these "journos" are. They need everything to be spoon-fed to them. Hate them not, for they are to be pitied.

  • @evilmandrake
    @evilmandrake Před 2 měsíci +3

    There are a lot of movies from the 80's & 90's that are reboots or remakes that people don't realize aren't originals, though off the top if my head I can't think of any.

  • @Eudaimonist
    @Eudaimonist Před 2 měsíci +3

    The survival of characters doesn't make them invincible. The characters in LOTR don't _act_ like they are invincible. While anyone who has read the novel knows who survives and who doesn't, there is dramatic tension in the movies. The characters don't know that they will survive. Aragorn and others don't know that they will survive the diversion at the Black Gate. Frodo literally expects to die in Mordor. Invincible characters never anticipate death.

  • @officerbucktuddrussel394
    @officerbucktuddrussel394 Před 2 měsíci +8

    16:20 So they've either got to be main characters who push the story forward or just faceless background characters? Main characters just blink in and out of existence?

  • @Kconv1
    @Kconv1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The Thing, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, The Mummy, there are a few very few cases of remakes being equal or better than original, but its super rare.

  • @beowulfsrevenge4369
    @beowulfsrevenge4369 Před 2 měsíci +5

    The Jackson LOTR trilogy is almost a perfect movie trilogy. It's something they couldn't do a few years later when they made the Hobbit movies.

    • @bradmiles1984
      @bradmiles1984 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Hobbit movies were a mess because of studio interference and because they brought Jackson in last minute when the original director bailed. I think if they would of gave Jackson more control he could of done them much better with more filler taken out. Watch the fan cut of the triology it's actually pretty good. It cuts out the needless filler that goes on way too long.

    • @beowulfsrevenge4369
      @beowulfsrevenge4369 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@bradmiles1984 Yup, if they'd hired Jackson from the start I would expect the Hobbit movies to be better.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@bradmiles1984 And that must have burnt out Jackson so much since he stopped making movies afterwards (other than documentaries)

    • @bradmiles1984
      @bradmiles1984 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@fattiger6957 Yeah I think all the meddling like forcing it to be 3 movies over 2 really took a toll on him. I genuinely think he tried his best but just got pushed into things. There are very well done parts in the movies it's the filler and forced comedy that ruins it.

  • @DubaiShortsChannel
    @DubaiShortsChannel Před 2 měsíci +1

    21:18 there's literally all races of the Middle Earth in the Fellowship - elves, humans, dwarves and hobbits.

  • @upschutt4842
    @upschutt4842 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I especially love they built these models to film on, and tried to use as little CGI as possible.

  • @kevingray4980
    @kevingray4980 Před 2 měsíci

    They forgot reason 16:
    "Do you know why a rock sinks and a boat floats?"
    Not that it was in the film, but now any time I see Tolkien's world, such logs bob to the surface.

  • @JonathanRossRogers
    @JonathanRossRogers Před 2 měsíci +1

    The Return of the King didn't have enough endings. Specifically, it left out the Scouring of the Shire.

  • @Damalon01
    @Damalon01 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I remember having so much hope after seeing LOTR: The Fellowship of The Ring for the first time! It was so awesome!! I thought to myself "Maybe they'll make more like this! MAYBE THEY'LL MAKE 'DRAGONS OF AUTUMN TWILIGHT' LIKE THIS!! OR MAYBE 'NINE PRINCES IN AMBER'!!!!"
    They cheated me! They cheated us!!

    • @gazabob
      @gazabob Před 2 měsíci +1

      I would love to see the Amber series But I get a real sinking feeling when I think of the stories being in the hands of the modern day 'entertainers'.

    • @janeenschultz8502
      @janeenschultz8502 Před 2 měsíci

      There is an older animated version of Dragons of Autumn Twilight. I still haven't watched it, but it's on my list.

  • @DrNiradino
    @DrNiradino Před 2 měsíci +4

    So, they didn't like that some minor characters that didn't affect the story much were cut, but also the others where left in? Right.

  • @masterswordsmen
    @masterswordsmen Před 2 měsíci +3

    Gandalf fighting the witch king of angmar was not in the hobbit books.....BUT...... it was mentioned in the Lord of the Rings books. Not in detail but it is there. They put it in the hobbit movies to tie them in to the lotr.

  • @gamerkingdom1442
    @gamerkingdom1442 Před 2 měsíci +3

    ……attacking the single most popular modern movie trilogy. Yeah, that’ll work well, as in THERE BLOODY NITWITS!!!
    Really, I’m not a LOTR FAN, but I utterly loved this movie trilogy. I put up there with OG STAR WARS TRILOGY, and INDIANA JONES.

  • @MemeGene6969
    @MemeGene6969 Před 2 měsíci +1

    everyday that tokien quote about the dark lord not being able to create but to just twist and corrupt proves ever timeless wisdom.

  • @Devin_Stromgren
    @Devin_Stromgren Před 2 měsíci +1

    On the note of the "too many endings", this was a complaint even when RotK was in theaters. It's a problem solely for people who have ONLY seen the films and never read the books. It's the polar opposite of the people complaining about how Tom Bombadil was left out.

  • @lastunicorn846
    @lastunicorn846 Před 2 měsíci +1

    "Was there ever a reboot that improved on the original?" What about Netflix's She-Re and the Princesses of Power?

  • @Hadesof3
    @Hadesof3 Před 2 měsíci +13

    Is Oz back? I hope so he's hilarious 😂

    • @bradmiles1984
      @bradmiles1984 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I saw him back in his costume and I was like did they repload an old video? I would like to see Oz back.

    • @presleybaldwin3756
      @presleybaldwin3756 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Team Oz for the win!

    • @g.t.werber4476
      @g.t.werber4476 Před 2 měsíci

      It's an old video I think. I'n not sure though

    • @AlanGresov
      @AlanGresov Před 2 měsíci +4

      I think Oz is kind of half here, half not.
      I believe he's something akin to a recurring guest

    • @bradmiles1984
      @bradmiles1984 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@g.t.werber4476 I don't think so I looked back and now he's been in most of the videos for the last month. Seems like he's back full time. Seems like Tyrenth is sticking more to the build and testing & they brought Oz back to do the stuff at the table for media/culture stuff. Ty always seemed like he never enjoyed doing that stuff. He was always much more high energy and excited doing the physical stuff.

  • @Peak_Aussieman
    @Peak_Aussieman Před 2 měsíci +8

    I skim-watched the first two episodes of season one then bailed. I ain't watching this nutty fudge.
    Same went for Halo.

    • @janeenschultz8502
      @janeenschultz8502 Před 2 měsíci

      Random Film Talk has a good video series about ROP if you want sarcasm and dry humor galore.

  • @genebaker511
    @genebaker511 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I bet CBR will have an article about how Wheels of Time show adaptation is better than the books

  • @Son-of-Gondor
    @Son-of-Gondor Před 2 měsíci +1

    “ThErE wErEn’T eNoUgH wOmEn!!”
    (Also)
    “Glorfindel wasn’t there!”
    Guys, if Glorfindel was there, one of the key women in the movie would be significantly less important.

  • @samurai90x
    @samurai90x Před 2 měsíci +1

    when they talk about random cameos they are specifically talking abotu the books, because they bring up glorfindel an elf from the silmarilion who defeated a balrog by himself, in the book it was his horse not arwen who rode frodo to rivendel after he was stabbed, he stayed behind and just was such a bad ass that the nazgul didn't want anything to do with him, but he wouldn't let htem pass.

  • @plumaDshinigami
    @plumaDshinigami Před 2 měsíci +5

    Currently, people try to gaslight others into believing tons of people hated and keep hating Katara to say that's why Korra is hated. There's a demand for hatred that far surpasses the supply, and it's all because these people can't stand their trash not being accepted and idolized by everyone. All it boils down to is trying to paint criticism as bad and themselves as good.

    • @funkydiscogod
      @funkydiscogod Před 2 měsíci +4

      Ah yeah, Korra was definitely on the leading edge of the "put a chick in it and make it gay and lame" about a decade before it became cool to do.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@funkydiscogod I think Korra started off well, but then they made her suddenly decide to be a lesbian (when she showed no inclination that way and had a boyfriend in earlier seasons)

    • @plumaDshinigami
      @plumaDshinigami Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@fattiger6957 Telltale signs were there when you consider that it took a lot for Aang and others to learn their elements with Toph having to practice with the giant mole badgers, and Korra just learns and uses three masterfully well when she's even younger than them.

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver Před 2 měsíci +2

    The Knights Watch has a ton of content that will grab all the views.
    Shame Google told CZcams to hold the Ad Revenue.

  • @weareharbinger914
    @weareharbinger914 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Ages poorly, really?
    They really were reaching there. Of course they go with 'diversity'. I wonder if they'd say Hotel Rwanda aged poorly for its lack of diversity.

  • @officerbucktuddrussel394
    @officerbucktuddrussel394 Před 2 měsíci +6

    "Heroes seem invincible" Good faith I would go on a whole tangent about at some level you know certain characters are always going to survive due to the story goes on for 2 seasons passed what your watching now, and the skill it takes to obfuscate that fact.
    But seeing as this is CBR I would just have to point to things like Disney star wars and the M-she-U and say 'So these have aged poorly too then?'

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 Před 2 měsíci +1

      All kind of fiction, particularly adventure stories, give their heroes plot armor. It's a conceit as old as fiction.

    • @officerbucktuddrussel394
      @officerbucktuddrussel394 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@fattiger6957 Exactly.

    • @engineerdeluxe
      @engineerdeluxe Před 2 měsíci

      GoT was a crazy exemption regarding plot armor.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 Před 2 měsíci

      @@engineerdeluxe Yeah, but George RR Martin was going for a hard deconstruction of fantasy stories. Basically presenting a fantasy plot, but having the people within be as brutal and cruel as the really were in the timeframe it was inspired by.

  • @Theseus9-cl7ol
    @Theseus9-cl7ol Před 2 měsíci +1

    Aragon was the true badass warrior. He was hacking up Uruk-Hai when he was 80 years old.

  • @stevene6482
    @stevene6482 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Tom Bombadil was a cool character (I named a cat after him), but he wasn’t necessary to the plot. Cutting him from these movies was the right call due to their length.

    • @Mare_Man
      @Mare_Man Před 2 měsíci +1

      He literally gave the Hobbits the Daggers of Westernesse

    • @stevene6482
      @stevene6482 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Mare_Man they weren’t terribly important to the plot other than in the fight against the witch king and could easily be replaced by other weapons /sources without needing all that time. Could each movie be stretched out to 4+ hours, sure, but it likely would have taken away half of the audience of the films if it became that much of a time commitment. I still think this was an easily justified cut.

  • @benjamintworek
    @benjamintworek Před 2 měsíci +2

    The Lord of the Rings movie is a visual masterpiece. If you look back at the Star Wars prequels that came out at the same time, you can see why. The practical effects and limited use of cgi really helped it become timeless. The starwars prequels look like they were filmed on a Playstation 2. The lord of the rings is a masterclass in timeless effects.

  • @MrNitrox91
    @MrNitrox91 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Dean Cain was not only a great Superman back in the 90s. Today is based AF 😎

  • @teddyharvester
    @teddyharvester Před 2 měsíci +2

    They want to complain about awkward acting? They need to take a second look at pretty much any exchange in TRoP, especially when Guyladriel is involved. "I have a tempest in me!" will forever be one of the most out of nowhere badly delivered lines in TV history.
    Only thing that aged somewhat poorly in LOTR is some of the composite shots, only because the tech was what it was at the time, and wasn't made for ultra HD, so you can really only notice it now on your pristine monitor.

  • @mrsanity
    @mrsanity Před 2 měsíci +1

    If anything at all was a mirror of real peoples and events, the orcs were a representation of the Ottomans, with the mouth of Sauron representing the Sultan, and Sauron as Mohammad. The battle for the gates of Vienna would be the Battle of Pelennor Field - with the charge of the Polish forces of Sobieski represented as the charge of the Rohirrim.

  • @scottag3597
    @scottag3597 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I'll tell you exactly who Orcs are based on: English football hooligans. Listen to how they talk, it's exactly how the brutes at a football game sound, chugging beers and slapping their big beer bellies while they chant nonsensical songs.

  • @Treebohr
    @Treebohr Před 2 měsíci

    I love how the article loses its own thread. The point about Merry and Pippin lacking agency actually ends up praising Peter Jackson's trilogy. That whole section is describing how it went in the books, and it ends with them saying the movie changed some of that to give them more agency!

  • @stevencalandra9431
    @stevencalandra9431 Před 2 měsíci

    Lois and Clark was a great show!! My wife and I met because of The Lord of the Rings (we're both reverential lovers of Middle-earth books and the movies). We recently had a marathon of the Extended films. They're still enjoyed by us. Timeless treasures!

  • @dallinadams9422
    @dallinadams9422 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The weird part with the ents was this was supposedly unplanned, but as soon as Treebeard cries out all of the ents are just immediately there and ready for battle.

  • @Finis.Terrae
    @Finis.Terrae Před 2 měsíci

    People still remember LOTR movies,even 20 years later.
    Most people dont even remember Amazon's tv show 1 year later.