THIS has got to be one of THE BEST, if not _the best_ PF:KM series availiable. The way you explain everything is incredible. Not too deep, no nonsense rambling. A tomb of knowlege given articulatly and efficiently with real world table top experience to throw in and contrast with. I'm only a few eps in and i already know i'm subbing and going to watch the whole series and whatever else you have in this space. This channel is HIGHLY under rated. Thank you very much for this!
Thank you very much. It’s been a while since I’ve made content but I’ve been getting tempted to do something. Over the pandemic my friends and I had a twitch channel called TT2KB aka tabletop2keyboard. We had live table top games, an art show, a music show, and a long form podcast with guests. Actually was lucky enough to talk to Larry Elmore and Luke Gygax to name a few.
Enjoying your approach, your voice is suited for CZcams - I also enjoy your character voice work. You've inspired me to try out turn based and slow down my gameplay. Great content, subbed.
The amount of info packed into a short 40 minute video was spectacular! Hours and hours of time watching other "Guides" that in multiple hours didn't explain as directly and informatively as you did. Thank you! Earned a sub and a like!
Oh thank you very much. I’m glad it helped. It’s really interesting because this video wasn’t intended to be a guide, it was just part of a let’s play.
really annoying is that during the last stages of the game enemies are neutral instead of evil - which I can understand for beasts but in my view some of the so-called chaotic neutrals at the end are de facto MUCH more evil than bandits or even undead, especially the end boss - supposedly chaotic neutral - is the most evil thing there could ever be
I know this comment is a year old, but I don't even care if my reply isn't read. This bothers the eff out of me, both in Kingmaker and in TTRPG in general. In my experience, TTRPG players with evil characters play a long game and tend to just part ways with the party once their purposes are served. Every problem player in the world chooses CN so they can say "lol, not evil bro" and "I have no moral compunctions of any kind" in the same breath. At least when a character is labeled evil, there is an honesty to it. Players who play chaotic stupid and do the truly evil shit without having the decency to admit their immorality really grinds my gears.
Amen. I think with Evil you have an Immoral character. While with a Chaotic Neutral character it could mean different things. It could be an Amoral agent that lacks the ability to make moral decisions, or as it’s usually played it’s a (cart man voice) “I do what I want!” Character. We had some pretty in depth discussions about the Alignment systems in D&D on my podcast “The Wisdom Check”. If you are interested you can find it on CZcams or on any podcasting service. The CZcams channel is Tabletop2keyboard
Can't wait to watch this. I watched another guys playing this game, and he was making all these mistakes and clearly didn't know what he was doing, and he chose to play hard, and couldn't do anything and just kept dying. So I can't wait to see how you do.
Hopefully I won't disappoint. After I finished the tutorial I watched another guys video. He was playing a Sorcerer and sounds like it might have been your guy. Pretty painful....though I have to say Hard mode is exactly that...HARD
Some of it was that he didn’t know Pathfinder but some of it is the group makeup at the start favors a durable frontliner and punishes a ranged character
Actually paladins origins are from charlemagne's palace guards they were called paladins, yep original. Shadiversity explains it better go watch on his Channel
@@ReignSurvives No problem. Im doing a pure Paladin run and Im wondering if you could share me your feat list as I have the same start up character as you. Its been a long time since I played DND...
Thank you for describing the paladin categories in such detail, you depth of knowledge of the game is impressive, so I had to like and subscribe. I am a newbie to this type of gaming, so that leaves a big blank for creating the other character types. My solution to my problem is to purchasing a core gaming rule book. Which edition of the role playing game book do you recommend that would be closest to the computer game that would fill this tremendous knowledge gap? Thank you in advance.
I’m glad that helped. I’d be happy to explain other classes in depth for people at some point. Also thanks for the sub Also every Monday night at 10pm cst I do a TTRPG talk show called “The Wisdom Check” it’s on the channel TT2KB As for what edition you want: this game is built on the Pathfinder 1st edition ruleset. Most of what you will need is in the players hand book. However some of the classes are from other books such as the Advanced Players Guide. There is a brand new edition of Pathfinder that came out really recently. It’s rules will not be the same as what is represented in this game. So make sure you get first edition if your goal is to learn for this game.
Haha, well I’ll happily accept a sponsorship. Also if you like tabletop RPGs check out my other channel and my groups twitch account. We go by “Tabletop2KeyBoard” or TT2KB if you are hip. Monday nights at 10pm ct we do a talk show. I’ve got Satine Phoenix coming on the show on August 12th!
What a joy to hear someone experienced in PnP. Thank you very much for this guide, my first time playing Pathfinder. Always been a Paladin in previous games, i can connect with the Holy Warrior, smiting evil helping the weak. Should be an interesting adventure.
That’s a fun one. I’ve been beginning to wonder if I should have been a cleric in my let’s play. I’m holding out hope for a good support character in addition to Lenzi
@@ReignSurvives I am not going to spoil anything but you need to be very smart to get a pal. to work right its not point and click this game gets crazy your friends are wrong.
what do you guys think? as the melee paladin / ranger / cleric I am tempted to dump DEX to 8 as in the mid to late game items bring it to 12 and beyond - wearing full plate these points would become wasted
I actually have a different video where I use a respec mod and rebuild Valerie into a better pen & paper tabletop tank build I make her a standard fighter, then build her for two-weapon fighting. Her main weapon ends up being a longsword and her off-hand weapon is a light shield. Normally in pen&paper Pathfinder games “tanking” doesn’t work. There isn’t an Aggro mechanic so cranking up armor class and hit points would just leave a character ignored on the battle field. So typically you would need a way to force enemies to stay near you such as trip builds But in this video game it seems that bad guys just go to the closest character and stick to them meaning stacking armor class is a viable method of tanking. The monk fighting styles offer some interesting ways to improve tankiness. Check out the Crane style feats. Basically they improve fighting defensively. Look at missile shield if you are dealing with ranged attacks. Toughness is good for more health and dodge is usually an easy one to qualify for which grants even more AC. Be mindful of the different kinds of defenses on a character if you are trying to build a tank. You need to make sure to boost your saving throws or your tank will be easily defeated with spells and spell like effects such as fear. Also, note that touch armor class is pretty important. Certain attacks will ignore your armor and will instead only count your other forms of AC. So keep your touch AC high of possible. I wasn’t sure if the rest of your question was a typo meaning “general fighter build” or if you meant a more streamlined fighter build but let me know and I’ll try to answer.
Good video but for the love of God every Paladin build I see picks Assimar... everybody uses that race as a crutch when it comes to the ability score. What about human or dwarf?
@@ReignSurvives Yes, humans are great... but I can't reach the same stats as you can so the build you showed. I built my Hospitaler like so: 19(to get that 20 as soon as possible), 10, 16, 7, 7, 16... and I don't know if it's ok... I never dump stats... but I felt I had to with Paladin. (I usually play fighter) What do you think?
Hard to say it really depends on how the game distributes it’s saving throw targets. Some enemies might be able to drain attributes which would be brutal. That said there isn’t much use for intelligence on a typical paladin. Dex isn’t super important either. Paladins get ‘Divine Grace’ that adds charisma to saves so maybe you can dump and not suffer
Sad true is that paladin is one of most useless class in pathfinder. As melee you can do some dmg but you are fixed to evil enemy and you are realy glasscannon. In most fights somethink kill you before you do some dmg. I found 2 playable pure paladin builds. Classic paladin with longbow as pure dmg + bufer and Hospitaliter with longbow as healer/suportdmg. Longbow is the way how to eliminate your lack of survivability. Never trust in heavy armor. Heavy armor is not synomyme for defence. If you want melee twohand destroyer go dragonknight, better dmg, better caster, better defence. Better all. Another way for paladin is multiclassing 2 levels from any paladin to CHA based builds. For example scale fist monk. You will get +CHA bonus to saves. +8 to all saves? Its living hell.
Useless?? At level 11 you get Mark of Justice wich grants your charisma bonus to attack rolls and to the AC of all your allies, that's a +10 to attack rolls and AC to every party member in late game. Yeah it's only against evil aligned mobs but, most bosses are evil so It's not a useless class at all, specially in unfair difficulty.
@@jakubkonecny7369I agree that the Divine Hunter is not that good, the Paladin however in my opinion is a must on any party in unfair, maybe not in the early game but in mid and late game it's just so damn good to have in your party.
@@rayromcas Yeah DH is pointlest. I am actualy play Hosp as healer/bufer/subdmg, because clasic pala cant have extra channels. But maybe ill try it. In dungeon i neednt so much channels.
@@rayromcas really annoying is that during the last stages of the game enemies are neutral instead of evil - which I can understand for beasts but in my view some of the so-called chaotic neutrals at the end are de facto MUCH more evil than bandits or even undead, especially the end boss - supposedly chaotic neutral - is the most evil thing there could ever be
THIS has got to be one of THE BEST, if not _the best_ PF:KM series availiable. The way you explain everything is incredible. Not too deep, no nonsense rambling. A tomb of knowlege given articulatly and efficiently with real world table top experience to throw in and contrast with. I'm only a few eps in and i already know i'm subbing and going to watch the whole series and whatever else you have in this space. This channel is HIGHLY under rated. Thank you very much for this!
Thank you very much. It’s been a while since I’ve made content but I’ve been getting tempted to do something.
Over the pandemic my friends and I had a twitch channel called TT2KB aka tabletop2keyboard. We had live table top games, an art show, a music show, and a long form podcast with guests. Actually was lucky enough to talk to Larry Elmore and Luke Gygax to name a few.
Enjoying your approach, your voice is suited for CZcams - I also enjoy your character voice work. You've inspired me to try out turn based and slow down my gameplay. Great content, subbed.
Much appreciated. I am doing a lot more with TTRPGs on my Twitch account these days
The amount of info packed into a short 40 minute video was spectacular! Hours and hours of time watching other "Guides" that in multiple hours didn't explain as directly and informatively as you did. Thank you! Earned a sub and a like!
Oh thank you very much. I’m glad it helped. It’s really interesting because this video wasn’t intended to be a guide, it was just part of a let’s play.
Happy Birthday! Thanks for the video.
Oh thank you. I’m getting old. In three hours it happens lol
Great video! You've convinced me to purchase this game.
Nice! I’ll be interested to hear what you think of the game.
really annoying is that during the last stages of the game enemies are neutral instead of evil - which I can understand for beasts but in my view some of the so-called chaotic neutrals at the end are de facto MUCH more evil than bandits or even undead, especially the end boss - supposedly chaotic neutral - is the most evil thing there could ever be
I know this comment is a year old, but I don't even care if my reply isn't read. This bothers the eff out of me, both in Kingmaker and in TTRPG in general. In my experience, TTRPG players with evil characters play a long game and tend to just part ways with the party once their purposes are served. Every problem player in the world chooses CN so they can say "lol, not evil bro" and "I have no moral compunctions of any kind" in the same breath. At least when a character is labeled evil, there is an honesty to it. Players who play chaotic stupid and do the truly evil shit without having the decency to admit their immorality really grinds my gears.
Amen. I think with Evil you have an Immoral character. While with a Chaotic Neutral character it could mean different things. It could be an Amoral agent that lacks the ability to make moral decisions, or as it’s usually played it’s a (cart man voice) “I do what I want!” Character.
We had some pretty in depth discussions about the Alignment systems in D&D on my podcast “The Wisdom Check”. If you are interested you can find it on CZcams or on any podcasting service. The CZcams channel is Tabletop2keyboard
Can't wait to watch this. I watched another guys playing this game, and he was making all these mistakes and clearly didn't know what he was doing, and he chose to play hard, and couldn't do anything and just kept dying. So I can't wait to see how you do.
Hopefully I won't disappoint. After I finished the tutorial I watched another guys video. He was playing a Sorcerer and sounds like it might have been your guy. Pretty painful....though I have to say Hard mode is exactly that...HARD
Reign Survives pretty sure that is the guy. He was playing a sorcerer.
Some of it was that he didn’t know Pathfinder but some of it is the group makeup at the start favors a durable frontliner and punishes a ranged character
Actually paladins origins are from charlemagne's palace guards they were called paladins, yep original.
Shadiversity explains it better go watch on his Channel
Very cool. I thought I remembered it being named after a Count Palatine or something along those lines.
Again, thank you for such a detailed reply . See you Monday night
You are very welcome. See you then.
Also look for all the past episodes on the tabletop2keyboard CZcams channel.
Thanks for the great explanation!
You are quite welcome
You have a radio voice. Thanks for the upload.
I get that a lot. Thanks for the view!
@@ReignSurvives No problem. Im doing a pure Paladin run and Im wondering if you could share me your feat list as I have the same start up character as you. Its been a long time since I played DND...
this helped me build my paladin
I’m really happy to hear that. Let me know how your play through goes
Thank you for describing the paladin categories in such detail, you depth of knowledge of the game is impressive, so I had to like and subscribe. I am a newbie to this type of gaming, so that leaves a big blank for creating the other character types. My solution to my problem is to purchasing a core gaming rule book. Which edition of the role playing game book do you recommend that would be closest to the computer game that would fill this tremendous knowledge gap? Thank you in advance.
I’m glad that helped. I’d be happy to explain other classes in depth for people at some point. Also thanks for the sub
Also every Monday night at 10pm cst I do a TTRPG talk show called “The Wisdom Check” it’s on the channel TT2KB
As for what edition you want: this game is built on the Pathfinder 1st edition ruleset. Most of what you will need is in the players hand book. However some of the classes are from other books such as the Advanced Players Guide.
There is a brand new edition of Pathfinder that came out really recently. It’s rules will not be the same as what is represented in this game. So make sure you get first edition if your goal is to learn for this game.
Dude, I hope they paid you for this because I'm buying this game
Haha, well I’ll happily accept a sponsorship. Also if you like tabletop RPGs check out my other channel and my groups twitch account. We go by “Tabletop2KeyBoard” or TT2KB if you are hip.
Monday nights at 10pm ct we do a talk show. I’ve got Satine Phoenix coming on the show on August 12th!
Great seat
I’m assuming that was great Feat? If so then yes Power Attack is exceptional
"Guy looks like a douche"......
*foreshadowing*
What can I say...got good instincts lol
What a joy to hear someone experienced in PnP. Thank you very much for this guide, my first time playing Pathfinder. Always been a Paladin in previous games, i can connect with the Holy Warrior, smiting evil helping the weak. Should be an interesting adventure.
I’m glad it was helpful. I had a decent time with it. I just wish I could get into the real time party management.
Hey we made the exact same character except mine was a pitborn teifling
8 wiz in a wiz character gr8 job!
there are many ways to build a Pal. I like the crusader Cleric route (STR) domain 2 handed spec
That’s a fun one. I’ve been beginning to wonder if I should have been a cleric in my let’s play. I’m holding out hope for a good support character in addition to Lenzi
@@ReignSurvives I am not going to spoil anything but you need to be very smart to get a pal. to work right its not point and click this game gets crazy your friends are wrong.
Are you suggesting the alignment will be a challenge to deal with?
what do you guys think? as the melee paladin / ranger / cleric I am tempted to dump DEX to 8 as in the mid to late game items bring it to 12 and beyond - wearing full plate these points would become wasted
Really depends on how much of your play experience occurs before that gear appears, and how well you can manage the lower AC in the meantime
It's an old comment but thought I should mention mitral full plate allows for a +3 dex bonus
@@theultimateduck401 Good point. Mithral is great for reducing skill penalties, weight, and increasing max dex bonus
you sold me the game wp :D
It’s pretty good. Just gotta figure out what difficulty you will enjoy
Since you play fighter type can you make a tank and a general tighter build?
I actually have a different video where I use a respec mod and rebuild Valerie into a better pen & paper tabletop tank build
I make her a standard fighter, then build her for two-weapon fighting. Her main weapon ends up being a longsword and her off-hand weapon is a light shield.
Normally in pen&paper Pathfinder games “tanking” doesn’t work. There isn’t an Aggro mechanic so cranking up armor class and hit points would just leave a character ignored on the battle field. So typically you would need a way to force enemies to stay near you such as trip builds
But in this video game it seems that bad guys just go to the closest character and stick to them meaning stacking armor class is a viable method of tanking. The monk fighting styles offer some interesting ways to improve tankiness. Check out the Crane style feats. Basically they improve fighting defensively. Look at missile shield if you are dealing with ranged attacks. Toughness is good for more health and dodge is usually an easy one to qualify for which grants even more AC.
Be mindful of the different kinds of defenses on a character if you are trying to build a tank. You need to make sure to boost your saving throws or your tank will be easily defeated with spells and spell like effects such as fear. Also, note that touch armor class is pretty important. Certain attacks will ignore your armor and will instead only count your other forms of AC. So keep your touch AC high of possible.
I wasn’t sure if the rest of your question was a typo meaning “general fighter build” or if you meant a more streamlined fighter build but let me know and I’ll try to answer.
For a game in 2018, the character creation is actually lacking. They also force your "equipment appearance."
Yeah their weren’t a lot of cosmetic elements were there
Good video but for the love of God every Paladin build I see picks Assimar... everybody uses that race as a crutch when it comes to the ability score.
What about human or dwarf?
Human is almost always good in pathfinder dwarf would be tough due to charisma penalty
@@ReignSurvives Yes, humans are great... but I can't reach the same stats as you can so the build you showed.
I built my Hospitaler like so: 19(to get that 20 as soon as possible), 10, 16, 7, 7, 16... and I don't know if it's ok... I never dump stats... but I felt I had to with Paladin. (I usually play fighter)
What do you think?
Hard to say it really depends on how the game distributes it’s saving throw targets. Some enemies might be able to drain attributes which would be brutal. That said there isn’t much use for intelligence on a typical paladin. Dex isn’t super important either. Paladins get ‘Divine Grace’ that adds charisma to saves so maybe you can dump and not suffer
@@ReignSurvives I'm still at the trading outpost so I can redo him, but I don't know exactly what to tweak...
Lol vid not seat
Ahaha well thank you
Sad true is that paladin is one of most useless class in pathfinder. As melee you can do some dmg but you are fixed to evil enemy and you are realy glasscannon. In most fights somethink kill you before you do some dmg. I found 2 playable pure paladin builds. Classic paladin with longbow as pure dmg + bufer and Hospitaliter with longbow as healer/suportdmg. Longbow is the way how to eliminate your lack of survivability. Never trust in heavy armor. Heavy armor is not synomyme for defence. If you want melee twohand destroyer go dragonknight, better dmg, better caster, better defence. Better all. Another way for paladin is multiclassing 2 levels from any paladin to CHA based builds. For example scale fist monk. You will get +CHA bonus to saves. +8 to all saves? Its living hell.
Useless?? At level 11 you get Mark of Justice wich grants your charisma bonus to attack rolls and to the AC of all your allies, that's a +10 to attack rolls and AC to every party member in late game. Yeah it's only against evil aligned mobs but, most bosses are evil so It's not a useless class at all, specially in unfair difficulty.
@@rayromcas My point was most about if you want play paladin play it with long bow as archer. In melee you die instant.
@@jakubkonecny7369I agree that the Divine Hunter is not that good, the Paladin however in my opinion is a must on any party in unfair, maybe not in the early game but in mid and late game it's just so damn good to have in your party.
@@rayromcas Yeah DH is pointlest. I am actualy play Hosp as healer/bufer/subdmg, because clasic pala cant have extra channels. But maybe ill try it. In dungeon i neednt so much channels.
@@rayromcas really annoying is that during the last stages of the game enemies are neutral instead of evil - which I can understand for beasts but in my view some of the so-called chaotic neutrals at the end are de facto MUCH more evil than bandits or even undead, especially the end boss - supposedly chaotic neutral - is the most evil thing there could ever be