Which reticle is most baller?
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
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Ben should see if someone can custom fit a red dot with one of those “zombie” biohazard symbol reticles to put on his staccato. Would go great with the punisher skull.
Just for shits and giggles.
i queue up vids into my watch later often, and whenever a ben vid comes up, the audio is always noticeably lower so i turn up the volume. then the next vid plays and it's blasting. glad to see the audio quality improving in recent vids so that minimal to no volume adjustment is needed. thanks ben
Audio never has, and probably never will, bother me. The content is great, and much appreciated. Ive learned a lot and improved a lot
I agree. Definitely prefer just a 2 moa red dot. Seems to work best for me.
Same. I don't understand the big MOA dots. They cover too much of the target at longer distance. And if I want a bigger dot, I just increase the brightness on the 2 MOA.
@@kenwickes24976 moa dots look cleaner to my astigmatism
In real bright conditions the 2moa dot starts to get kind of dim.
@@kenwickes2497 a 4-6 moa dot is a good balance i find. The problem with blooming a 2 to make it bigger is that now it's very distracting and makes it harder not to focus on the dot.
I use the 2 moa dot with the 8 moa circle surrounding it. It essentially looks like a bigger dot.
Same
Same here. At typical handgun competition distances, that combo seems to work the best for me. Seems to go well with Ben's "Color...smash" teaching. If I see the color in the A zone, smash the trigger. It's big enough to pick up quickly, but small enough to keep accurate shots in the A zone even out to 25 yards.
The battery also lasts longer on just the simple red dot reticule. And as someone with an astigmatism, I find the simple red dot to visually appear the cleanest/least fuzzy to my eye.
Ditto
Strange, my astigmatism makes it that the dots are a weird shape vs the 8moa circle being the most crisp
@@713KaiWin while the Holosun dot is still the cleanest + roundest dot compared to Aimpoints, Eotech’s and Trijicon’s, it’s still for me not a perfectly circular dot. But the other Holosun reticles (horseshoe, chevron and circle) are kinda fuzzy for me.
The 8 moa circle was a game changer for me coming from a 2 moa dot. Having an astigmatism made the dots have a big weird ass bloom whereas with the 8 moa i can lower the brightness and still have a crisp reticle and the second shot of double taps are quicker for me when im aiming with a marker streak vs a pencil streak of light. Further distances are nice because i just put whatever im shooting at in the center of the circle (most of the time the circle is a lot smaller than the small steel plates). It also helped i played a lot of videogames and most crosshairs have no dot in the center so aiming with open space surrounded by the reticle is kind of more intuitive for me
Thanks so much for your vids they are golden
Thanks for the info.
great video for sure 🤙
Good Audio Ben 🫡
Hey! You fixed it! The audio is at a normal volume! Sweet! Lovin the knowledge btw, keep it comin.
Just a 4MOA dot for me. I've use that for the past 20 years. Thanks. PS: And your audio is better.
It would be interesting to hear you expand of the topic of rifle optics.
Like most things shooting related. People get so caught up with the little stuff. I just switched to a red dot for uspsa and the first thing I realized is that a good index is 1000% more important than whatever my dot size is or preferred reticle is.
People chase gear when they really just need to get better at shooting.
Yes and no, some people have bad eyes and choosing the right optic is literally a matter of it being usable vs a blob of red speckles
well said!
Circle dot. Circle is helpful for holdovers on movers, offset at close distance, etc
Great video! Can you explain Green vs. Red pro cons? Thanks, love the brutal honesty!
I have the 507 Comp, and depending on what I am shooting that day, I change it up. If closer targets, I like the middle circle and dot in it for dot on paper, pull the trigger. More distance, or steel challenge, I usually have just the dot. Dot on white, pull the trigger and keep moving.
great audio imo
Thanks ben yousaved me $700 and a 1 year wait on RMR HD. maybe ill look for other options now :)
I prefer the complicated Holosun reticle for many reasons, most of which I won't articulate here. The one worth mentioning only occurred to me while watching another Ben Stoeger video the other day about obscuring your objective lens. Stoeger said something like 'nobody gets so good at shooting they just stop practicing target focus with a dot,' comparing it to trigger control, further explaining that you can't just master it permanently, "check out" of paying attention to it and move on to other parts of the shooting skill set. I drill trigger control daily, but couldn't remember the last time I spent any concerted effort practicing focusing on the target as opposed to the dot. I've tried obscuring my lens a few times, and got very little from it. I then realized that, for me anyway, the busy Holosun reticle is self-obscuring. When I focus on the objective plane instead of the target, I can't see around that thing to what I'm shooting at. What I started using as a crutch to help me find the dot in the early days of red dot use has become a great tool to keep me target focused, as I have to work to look through the rings at the target beyond them.
@benstoeger I like a simple red dot, but using the 2moa with 8moa circle around it, when I start focusing on the red dot, I see both, when I'm target focused, it's just one dot. It's helped me be more target focused as a training aid
I don’t prefer any of those dots but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
I use a star of David reticle
Based
Based af
I wish they offered a 1 moa, 2.5 moa, 5 moa dot selection on the selection settings, and maybe even a big ring to add to that for people that like eotech style reticle.
I like the ACCS chevron.
on my p365 with a holosun 507K, i like the circle. not the circle with the dot in the middle, just the circle. don't know why, just feels right
Same setup for me. I am the opposite however. I kinda wish I would have just bought the 407k and saved some scratch and just had a dot.
I use the primary arms red dot with the acss reticle on my rifles, and that makes sense to me because I pair it with a magnifier and can utilize the bdc. I however do not see the point of fancy reticles on pistols.
I have a 6 MOA dot DPP on my competition gun. It's simple. It's clean. I like it. I do hate the single button controls, though.
I wish it just had a 6MOA dot like the Sig Romeo3Max. The 2 dot and 8 MOA halo is close and what I’m using now.
I use the dot with the 8 moa circle as well.
I have astigmatism I found I see a more round DOT with 6 MOA the smaller dots burst more for me.
Same here. Larger dots look much more crisp for my astigmatism
Same here. Larger dots look much more crisp for my astigmatism
On my 507 comp I was comparing the 8 MOA circle in dry fire to the 2 MOA dot, and I was surprised to find the 2 MOA dot allowed me be much sharper on transitions, especially wide ones.
For me red dots are on a bell curve of what works best. Too small of a dot I’m over aiming and trying to stabilize or too larger like the holosun offerings and it’s too busy causing me to over aim. A 5 to 8 moa seems to be the ticket as far as dot size for me
I've come to like using just the dot. In my mind having more stuff in my sight picture means more of a chance to trick my vision to focusing on it. Biggest dot I would ever consider is 3.25 moa. The smaller the better in my opinion.
6 moa is the bees knees
I have an older 407CO that just has an 8 MOA open circle. It is harder to shoot at 20-30+ yards than a 2moa dot, but I like it better for everything until that point. I have other dots that just have the 2 MOA and they work great too, I wish they would combine the two and just come out with a 6ish MOA dot.
I also have a 507C that I seem to switch back and forth between the 2 moa and the 2 moa with the 32 moa circle almost every time I shoot. I feel like the 32 moa helps bracket targets, but then I realize I'm just aiming with the dot anyway, so I turn it off until I forget how little the bracket actually helps
407k and EPS have 6moa options
I wish the holosun 507 comp haf 4 reticles 1moa, 3moa, 6moa & 8moa dots. Don't need all those circle dots. I only use the 2 moa dot or 2moa with small circle which is close to 8 or 10 moa dot. Holosun K.I.S.S
I think i might be going to CO division sometime in the future. I have seen a lot of shooters say that a larger MOA dot such as a 6 moa is their preference, and i think it has something to do with 'seeing' the dot faster or better. Interesting that Ben prefers a smaller dot and so does a friend of mine. Could it be just a matter of preference with regards to the dot size? Or maybe one can simply adjust the brightness to make the dot look bigger? Truly interesting.
With my astigmatism, a simple dot works best. There's less stuff to star burst.👍
Can do you do a video on reticles for rifles?
I’ve tried a bunch, I like the 3 mos dot the best. Even though I’m currently running a 507Comp 😂
I'm buying the gideon judge, i wanted their RMR one but it has the brackets and shit. I just want a dot lol.
I wish Holosun would follow CMORE model with RTS2. Just a solid red dot with different MOA sizes. 2-12 if I remember correctly.
That’s an interesting idea for sure
@@BenStoeger187 @RV7695 Having 24 different SKUs for one product line = "why are these never in stock?"
You ever check out the Vulcan reticle? And do you think it would help beginners get the concept of using a red dot quicker?
Just use whatever works well for you. Everyone is different.
Do you find that too much brightness pulls your focus off the target and onto the dot?
Idk I feel something like 6moa is better, i don't need to turn it up as much as the smaller ones.
Turning up the brightness too much on a small one creates a halo that I really dont like, it's not the same shape as a bigger dot.
I do not understand, why someone is always yackin about the audio. It is totally fine🤷🏻♂️
Curious to know how you feel about the rear backup iron sight behind or in front of the optic.
Now that you've had more time with the 507 Comps, do you still think they're the better option, for the price, compared to the SRO?
I am able to hear the clack clack of the slide and your voice.
I've heard some people claim the Steiner dot is big enough that people with astigmatism dont really have any real problems shooting it without glasses. Is 3.3 moa pushing it for practicality?
I use the 507c for competition use
Could you address the theory that blooming a small dot to make it larger is bad practice? The idea is that blooming it makes it harder to target focus because your eye attracts to it.
Has Holosun made any mention of creating a 407comp with dot only?
Does anyone use the regular non comp 507c? I have been using it since I started USPSA. I want the comp eventually, but it is not in the budget right now.
Hi Ben, I wanted to offer an opinion on dot selection from the perspective of someone who has astigmatism, as it affects about 1/3 of the population.
Most of us that have astigmatism have a problem using small 2MOA dots as they end up looking like a starburst, and the more the power is cranked up, the larger the flaring. The flaring can get so bad that it could reach the borders of the A zone at 10yards and beyond.
Personally, I’ve found much more success with a 5 moa or 6 moa dot size. For some reason, dots at this size simply don’t flare for me, and the worst my astigmatism does on a bad day is make the dot look like the shape small egg, or at times, like the planet Saturn with its rings.
Thus, while I did give the 507comp a go, I chose to stick with a 5 MOA Trijicon SRO and 6 MOA Holosun EPS instead, as both were clearer than the 2moa dot + 8moa circle on the 507 Comp.
I hope that, with future content, you’ll address this issue further, as I’ve met many people with similar cases such as my own.
you can't say all people with an astigmatism will have better results its person depeendnt. I have had guys say green is better for them some say red. one said neither so see them in person b4 you buy.
I don’t know Ben; I think we need to bring Emergency Response Tactical into the chat to het his take on this subject.
Why Holosun did not just make the 507comp 1MOA, 2MOA, 3MOA ETC. Would have been epic. I too have just gone back to the dot...
Any reason you like red over green on the holosun?
For me, shooting outside can have a green background. Red shows up as unique in almost every situation. When reactive shooting, my brain sees that red contrast better.
This might be a niche concern, but I have a hard time seeing blue light, especially at night (it looks blurry while all other colors look fine). I’ve never met an eye doctor who is familiar with this.
I go with a red dot because it’s just red. Not close to blue, not mixed with blue, just red. To be fair, I’ve never tried green, but I’m happy with what I’ve got. It works for me.
I dont shoot with a dot, but I switched the fiber in my front iron sight from red to green, because its what I had available when the red broke. Turns out, for me at least, the green works better. Doesn't seem to draw my eye to it as much and I can stay target focused. Never had an issue with it against a green background, which is what I was concerned about. I find it's easier on the eye, less harsh, if that makes any sense
I don't want my red dot to be "baller," could care less. That being said, on my pistols, I run Holoson 509Ts, using the 32/2 moa combo
Yeah, but it doesn’t really matter if your thumbs aren’t contacting the pistol when you shoot. Duh 😂
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