Slavery and Islam: A Blogging Theology book review.
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I review: Slavery and Islam by Jonathan A.C. Brown, Professor of Islamic Studies at Georgetown University oneworld-publications.com/sla...
There are 6 appendixes:
Appendix 1 - A Slave Saint of Basra
Appendix 2 - Enlightenment Thinkers on Slavery
Appendix 3 - Did the 1926 Muslim World Congress Condemn Slavery?
Appendix 4 - Was Māriya the Wife or Concubine of the Prophet?
Appendix 5 - Was Freedom a Human Right in the Shariah?
Appendix 6 - Enslavement of Apostate Muslims or Muslims Declared to be Unbelievers
The problem with slavery is that its too emotional of a subject and people tend to virtue signal alot when their arguments dont hold. Slavery is bad, correct, but not all slavery was American chattel slavery. That image of slavery dominates the understanding of how we see slavery. Most slavery were wet nurses, indentured servants, could buy their way out of slavery, had access to education, and even after being freed, can have healthy relationships with their masters even taking loans and/or being apprenticed by their former masters for a trade etc. We have to look at each form of slavery by itself and be honest in our approaches. Its a throne subject but an important one
Where is the punishment for kidnap and selling a person in the Quran?
@@homarcarrion1293 According Majmoo’ Al-Fataawa 89, on the authority of Sheikh Abdul Azeez ibn Baaz, kidnapping a free person who is not at hostility with you or Islam constitutes to assault or aggression against an innocent. Essentially, it falls into the category of "crimes of aggression" [Harabah]. There are varying punishments for such a crime in the Qur'an, the most severe of which are crucifixion and dismemberment of hands and feet from opposite sides as mentioned in Surah 5:33.
@@dk2.026 What that have to do with my questions? Quran 5:33. Means you or anyone that don’t believe in allah kill them. Islam is being doing this for the last 1400 years.
@@homarcarrion1293 Here's a more detailed response for you then: islamqa.info/en/answers/41682/the-ruling-on-one-who-steals-robs-or-rapes-at-knife-point-or-gun-point
As for your spin on Surah 5:33, do you not see the "penalty for *those who wage war* against God and his Messenger" part before the punishments part? Be sure to read the very next verse too. The entire chapter is about punishments for crimes of aggression.
@@dk2.026 One more time. Where is the punishment for rape in the Quran?
Where is the punishment for kidnap and selling a person in the Quran?
Umar ibn Al-Khattab (the second Khalifa) said: "When did you enslave the people when their mothers bore them free?"
He was addressing Amr ibn Al ‘Aas (Umar’s governor over Egypt) over a Coptic Egyptian who traveled to Medina and complained that Amr's son lost in horse race to the Egyptian but instead claimed he won and procedded to beat the Egyptian saying he was the son of nobles.
So Umar sent for Amr and his son Mohammed. When they arrived in Medina, he held a short trial to ensure the accusation was true. When it was confirmed, Umar then handed the Egyptian his staff and told him: Beat the son of nobles (Amr's son) and he did.
Then Umar addressed Amr ibn Al ‘Aas saying: "O Amr, when did you enslave the people when their mothers bore them free?"
The question at hand is does islam condone slavery? Prisoners of war are called slaves Islam.
@@sakariasheikh9739 Nope, because our conception of the eradication of slavery is to integrate existing slaves in the world into society and deal with them in accordance to the ways of the Prophet, and the ultimate goal of a Muslim who holds a slave is to emancipate him/her. We don't condone enslavement. We condone justice and emancipation.
Islam slavery idea is to treat the people that work or live under you like your extended family and encourage you to give them freedom somewhere down the line . Non islam slavery idea is to exploit them to the max . Treat them like an animal . You can beat them . Over work them . And kill them if you feel like it . No freedom unless there is huge finacial gain to get !!!
@@blitzbees890 there is nothing good about slavery that is why Allaah encourages to free even if you don't own another human. It also comes as a fine to free. Don't make to like good.
@@sakariasheikh9739 Allah doesnt forbid slavery either but He regulates slavery to be as humanely as possible thru His messanger teaching . Jahiliyah & Western style of slavery are never OK but Islam slavery is neccesary but it has to be done according the time we live in . Prophets saw had a few slaves during his life time you want to tell me hes wrong ? He never laid his hands on them . Never yell at them . Always eat together with them . And freed them in the end eventho they didnt mind to be his slaves forever due to the best treatment that the prophet gave them . But as of now we already move forward from slavery era which is a good thing . But dont ever lump together Jahiliyah / western slavery with Islam slavery .
I have this book but have yet to go past the intro. Your review might motivate me to finish it inshaAllah .
Please do!
Why don't you ask your future self?
Imam Murrah!!!
السلام علیکم
Another great vlog Paul!
Allah is close to the oppressed so always fear the dua of the oppressed. Do not mistreat ANYBODY!
I can listen to this Paul of Uk all day!!
The way Islam dealt with slavery is, in my opinion, a sound evidence of the divinity of this religion. Islam came in a time where slavery was so deeply rooted in the social and economic construct of that world that any abrupt prohibition of that phenomenon would literally demolish those constructs. In a world where nearly half the population was enslaved, a mass freeing of slaves would have created a massive crisis as hundreds of thousands of individuals who relied on their masters for food and shelter will suddenly find themselves having to start from scratch with no one to support them. Islam made sure to encourage the gradual draining of sources feeding slavery by means you have already mentioned in your video. There’s also the psychological aspect of being born into slavery and how some slaves would literally rather spend their lives enslaved if given the choice. So Islam made sure to free the minds before the bodies, in a way. A comparison between the Islamic experience and the American one in freeing slaves carried by Mohamed Qutb in his book "Suspicions About Islam" may be quite interesting in relation to the matter.
paganism wasn’t in trenches in that society too but allah gave a direct order to stop it
thief was also striving in that society same infidelity , diet of not eating pork and si on and so on
Allah fear the slave masters?
@@rahel5622 Way to turn a positive into negative just because you can't understand the wisdom behind it.
You make no sense at all because if Islam is a divine Religion why didn’t it come before slavery was all over the world? Why didn’t it come to prevent slavery in the first place?
Religion has many of you so indoctrinated and trained that you’ll rationalize ANYTHING in order that it fits your belief system in what you consider a positive way.
Allah said help the poor and the needy, why couldn’t he say same about slaves?
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Because Religion was created from the minds of men and not from a Divine Being. It was easy for them to say something like help the poor and needy but giving up free labor is something else. Slaves did a helluva lot of work for them so giving that up wasn’t something they could bring themselves to see. A Divine Being on the other hand (that supposedly cares about all of humanity) would’ve made Slavery Haram/Illegal/Sinful. What kind of sense does it make that eating Pork is Haram but enslaving another Human being is okay? Only in the twisted mind of a Ancient Human being does that make
good sense🤦♂️.
Profound and unambiguous insights on the subject. Another veil removed, well, I'm on it. Many thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
@@tonydimera282
No !
If the female slave is married , any sexual relationship with her master is ZINA (adulatory) .. If he had sex with her while she is married with another man, she became legally a wife and her children are his ..
What Islam says is not always what muslims do !!
@@tonydimera282
If she wasn't married, she's his slave , and he would take care of some points ; i. if she was a slave of his father before him , ii. If she or her mother milked him or his wife, iii. Or she had requested a MUKATABAH to him or his father .. otherwise, she's his own !!
That's the answer without diplomacy ..
I am Muslim and I like to preach to my religion!.. but not with hiding something that is not going with values of today ..
I give Islam as it is and I know that Islam is the only accepted religion to Allah Almighty !
Thank you for asking !
Please excuse me!
I have used a word between brackets (that was a suggestion from my phone keyboard) and what I meant is (commit adultery) and not (adulatory) ..
I beg your pardons
@@tonydimera282 no. You can't. Because, You can never make a free man your slave. Prisoners of war women (those who are helpless, those who have no guardians, those who have no one to support them) and men. You can make them slaves. Moreover, slavery is not merely a means to satisfy one's sexual needs. The one who keeps the slave, has to take all the other responsibilities of the slave.
Thank you for this. Being a muslim the idea of slavery in islam and particularly women slaves who can be used sexually always sat uneasily with me and I never found a real explanation that allayed my doubts fully. After listening to you I feel that for the first time I have understood this topic. Your balanced talk made me realise my doubts were due to my own emotional sentiments which were fuelled by images of American black slaves and oppression of humans generally as depicted in recent history. I now understand this topic so much better. Thank you.
No, your doubts are totally legitimate. Slavery is depriving a human of the most basic right: freedom. Leaving the slave helpless in front of his master. And a god that allows it should be questioned. These video is justifying slavery which is disgusting. If islam discouraged slavery why did the prophet had slaves? Why did the muslims enslave millions of people in their conquests? Their african slave trade has been proven to be as big or even bigger to that of the europeans. Islam never prohibited it. In many ways it is still practiced today in some muslim places. The logical explanation is that the holy books, as any other holy book, were writen by people, just people, thus explaining why they allowed slavery, had misoginistic views, referred to killing and conquering... The illogical answer and the one that is the hardest to fit in is the one that says it is a loving gods word. How could that god allow men to be deprived of all freedom and subjected to other men?
This guy seems very intelligent and has read a lot. But these videos are clearly reafirming islamic beliefs. I recommend you check some atheist channels, and see what they say, the most healthy way of learning is checking confronting ideas.
@@jonoc3729 Lmao!!!! Atheist channel?! How can they even EXPLAIN morality?! How convenient of you to speak your nonsense without 0 reflection on history and 0 insight just comfortable in your warm house, farting and typing your eyes out.
@@jonoc3729 “freedom” 😭
@@nycnow811 You are more comfortable I think. Instead of thinking for yourself you follow a book that says whats right or wrong, with no basic principle other than "god says it". And yes, I dont believe in objective morality. I dont critize anciente people for having slaves. But I do critize people that doubt that it is wrong.
Concerning Slavery with Islam I believe it get's distorted in translation! What was practiced in Islam should not be called slavery.
I have his “Misquoting Muhammad” book and already it’s very interesting. I will be checking the “slavery and Islam” book because slavery is always a touchy subject haha
POWs were the slaves in the time of early days of Islam.. Islam banned slaving POWs. Surah Muhammad verse 4.
Lighting and sound improved tremendously.Even look presentable compared with the previous blog.Always look forward watching all your coming blog.
Once in the midst of the noise, liquor, music and frivolity, Imam Musa al-Kadhim (may Allah be pleased with him) happened to pass by his house in Baghdad. Meanwhile, al-Kadhim saw a slave girl coming out of his house carrying some sweepings. He turned to the slave and asked her: "Is the owner of this house free or a servant?"
"He is free," she replied.
"You are right," retorted Musa al-Kadhim, "if he was a servant, he would fear his Lord."
The slave girl came into the house while Bishr was at the wine table, so he asked her: "What delayed you?" She gave him an account of what took place between her and the Imam. It is said that Bishr quickly jumped to his feet and headed to the door barefooted but the pious man had already left. He left in pursuit of the man and when he finally caught up with him asked him to repeat his words and he obliged. Bishr was so taken aback by his words that he fell to the ground and began to cry. "No I am a slave, I am a slave." From then onwards he would walk without shoes and people began calling him Bishr al-Haafi (The bare footed one). When asked why he did not wear shoes, he would reply "My master Allah guided me when I was barefooted and I will remain in this condition till death".
Beautiful story. BarakAllah feek
Thank you very much for your participation in clarifying this issue in particular. May Allah bless you and guide you 🤲🏻
Thank you for this informative session. I am addicted to your discussions. I love how eloquently you state each argument and offer insightful analysis of each subject matter. I learn so much from you and cant wait to add these amazing books to my collection and expand my knowledge base about my religion - which I never had the fortune to study in depth before.
It's a shame that so many of the comments come from angry haters that don't have the courage and/or attention span to watch the video in full before commenting. They go straight to the comments and attack, bully and insult those they disagree with. Of course their comments are ignorant and foolish but they think they are telling truth and are wisely-guided. May God enlighten them... BarakAllahou feek for another great video Mr Williams
Surprisingly, in Egypt slaves were the rulers of the country from the fall of the Ayubid dynasty, till the Ottoman conquest in 1517 by Selim I, a span of about 260 years. They were called the Memlukes (Mamaleek) and they were either Turkic or Georgian in origin.
Those slaves weren't really slaves then, only in name I guess. I consider low income labourers, that don't have any rights and limited freedom to be proper slaves. By definition.
Bilal bin rabah.. He become king
@@halaldunya918
The memlukes were slaves. They were bought by the state and trained to be soldiers in the Sultan's army.
There is a famous fatwa by the scholar Ezz Ibn Abdelsalam who forbade the rule of Memlukes before they were resold in public and set free.
@@inongbalee3092 King of what? I doubt that is true.
the Memluks were more common by Abbasid Kalifat,they bought them mainly from central asia mainly turk to fight for their masters,african to serve as servants at harem where many were have to loose there private parts so the honre of their masters stay safe from revealing their harem to other males even if they were salves alower grade than a free human,
the Memluks were mainly fighters,they serve the master who can pay them,they changing loyalty to the one who paid them more,the only thing they do all their life is to fight,kill,win or to be killed,like Mercenaries,since they were brought to the master as very young childrens so he feed,train and teach them islam too which teach them to obey him so allah will bless them,
yet they rebeled against their masters and took over Egypt and Hijaz for their own sake,they never mix with the local as they lived in their own forts castle and camps,during their time the Egyptian especially faced the true horror with over taxing, recruting farmers to fight for them so they manage to beat the Mongols,when the ottomons opened Egypt again they found aprehistoric country ruled be terror,so the ottomon contuned the great work islam brought to this country and ruled for another 400 years or so,to bring it to the ground
the memluks were muslims as the abbasid Ummaed ottomon,as the gulf countries nowaday Mr Paul where slavery in all its type took place,slave market were everywhere even in the first years of Muslims invasion toward north of arabia,The great sahabah were buying and seeling slaves normally after they having sex with them,however slavery everywhere the mankind always like to enslave(taking use/advantage)of one another
it will be agreat search if you search of the slave trade in north africa,the captive who been moved from their home land in the west toward Baghdad,Damasqus to be sold their
what about the labours who built saudi arabia over past 40 years under Kafeel system?
The slavery sound bad today because of how west treated their slaves.
Agreed 👍
Unbelievable!
Slavery is not allowed in Islam
the Arab Slave trade doesn’t sound like Summer camp lol
First 😎
Why?.. lol
🌟 Dr. (Craig Considine), an Irish-American researcher, and a faculty member in the Department of Sociology at Rice University:
"The Messenger Muhammad (ﷺ) is the first anti-racism recorded in history."
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That’s not fair
Why?
My understanding of the slavery in Islam was the since it was prevalent in Arabia pre Islam, it had to be eliminated steadily and the verses of the Quran lay out the many different ways in which it was to be eliminated tied to good deeds.
You can imagine if a verse came down that said it is prohibited completely right there and then. Islam being new to the people, it would have been hard for people to give up something they were so accustomed to as also other gradual prohibitions such as alcohol were done in the same manner.
That isn't correct. You may want to her the words of the scholars of islam instead of following your personal convictions
@@karimtemri1664 a weird sentiment
Slavery is the natural relationship between God and creation. The difference lies in to the master. Allah is perfectly just and merciful, to the degree that his servants see no chains, yet can't escape his justice and mercy. Slavery is discouraged in the Qur'an because humans are incapable of this justice and inclined to treat slaves unjustly, but it is not outlawed because therein we recognize our own place in relation to Allah and see that had it been for anyone but Allah, injustice would prevail
Perfect view.
Your god is a deranged slave master
The vast collection of books you have is self-evident to your genuineness and the sincerity of your intention.
May Allah the Almighty bless you and have mercy on you, Ameen!
your every video is a Gem professor keep the good work
Tomorrow isn't granted. May Allah forgive us and grants us His mercy ❤️
Your god allah didn’t granted Mohammed the ability to read, when he was squeezed 3 times.
What kind of god is allah?
@@homarcarrion1293 qaali ĺ9
@@abdisamedmohamudyusuf2484 Who’s WE in the Quran?
Can you prove allah is the one true living God?
@@homarcarrion1293 if you don’t know who the we is then u need to step aside little boy.
@@newbiblecomingsoon8861 Tell me who is WE, I want to learn?
Greetings from South Africa 🇿🇦 I have all the books 📚 besides slavery ... his a super academic and a hadith history specialist.
I remember a line in a Malay song translated, “ even if we were born slave, but we are FREE and LIVING HAPPILY”.
What song was it?
What an intellectual mind. May Allah bless you always.
Thank you Paul for your blog.
Thank you kindly
Asalamualikum brother, Slavery had become bless by the treatment of Islam. best Human Rights are taught by Quran and Hadith. Nice presentation. may Allah SWT rewards you for your hard works.
thanks
Tabari 9:1754 - "Treat women well, for they are [like] domestic animals with you and do not possess anything for themselves." From Muhammad's 'Farewell Sermon'. (Bye Bye) 😆
🌟 Dr. (Craig Considine), an Irish-American researcher, and a faculty member in the Department of Sociology at Rice University:
"The Messenger Muhammad (ﷺ) is the first anti-racism recorded in history."
czcams.com/video/hTwft2KX9xE/video.html
👍
@@cervezaway7049 you're such a disgusting hypocrite and you're even bad at it. It's so evident from the text that you've taken it out of context. Him saying that the evil looks like a person who has the attribute of being black does not mean he's referring to all black people or referring to that because he's black. You disgusting hypocrite. So even if prophet Mohammad peace be upon him said that, that's no evidence and you're pathetic. That being said, I have never heard that prophet Mohammad peace and blessings be upon him ever said that nor have you provided any proof that he did so until you do bring proof, you're just a liar.
@@cervezaway7049 Search & Read about "Umar ibn Rabah" May Allah grant you Hidayah.
He's obviously never read the Quran or the Hadith's
Great review as usual. Thankyou!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you, once again for an excellent overview. Please do speak to how you approach reading a new book. The frequency with which you make videos on new books suggests you’ve either read a lot of these in an earlier time, or you read quite quickly, or both. What advice do you have for those of us who seek to devour books as efficiently and effectively as you do? Dare I ask for a dedicated video on this! God bless
May God bless you for your efforts.
Would anybody give viewpoint on a Shakespeares Novel never once having read it from cover to cover?
But everybody has viewpoint on Islam never once having read Holy Quran from cover to cover.😂
Well said.
It a weird subject if you ask me?
Slavery in any form is a terrible thing. We can rationalize it as long we are not the actual victims. Wen should entourage others to comment on different aspects of Islam. If it is true religion it will withstand any test. as far as slavery goes, Islam forbade it in Surah Muhammad (47:4). Prisoners of war were slaved in those days. Islam forbids buying another human being. Islam did abolish slavery. Also it gave a code of war prisoners. Recently nations signed a treaty to regarding POWs. If you read 47:4 in Quran, it dictates the same rules. Only this rule was declared 1500 years ago.
Brown's books are really good. Thank you for your reviews
Alhamdulillah. I always gain knowledge by watching your video, brother. May Allah bless you abundantly
Just amazing presentation!
Glad you liked it!
I love your vids. Jazakallah Khair.
You have a very talented approach .
May Allah bless you and make you a pioneer in exposing the hidden truth which most are trying to hide .
Danke. Allah segne Sie, Bruder Paul.
Excellent work Paul really enjoy the way you explain and the pace you read your notes. Keep up the good work. I just subscribed to your channel.
Thank you! Welcome aboard.
And Thats why Allah said to Him ( Muhammad) S.A.W : Verily, we sent you not but A mercy for All Mankind..
Great lecture Mr Paul.
God Bless you 🙏 ❤
I like JB.
He seems like a kid, honest and cheerful.
a kid??
@@BloggingTheology
It's a compliment.
@@BloggingTheology I guess he means your unbiased take in which you speak what you read and heard without filtering it to fit a biased agenda
Your top fan is first ❤️
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Thanks for sharing. Just subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to more information.
Thanks for the sub!
Throughout history of mankind, slavery has been a social reality and a socioeconomoic system until recent times. The Quran doesn't abolish slavery; however, it encourages and supports the idea of abolishment as it recognizes slavery as a source of injustice, due to the fact that it places the freeing of slaves on the same level as feeding the poor and helping out the ones in need.
The Essenes were the first organized group in history to reject slavery "all together". If they were connected in any way to the Ebionites, there could be a chance the Ebionites also rejected to either buy or sell slaves, like it is done in the Hadiths. It looks like to me that Essenes and Ebionites possible are by virtue the most by ideal form of religion ever, being the first ones to condemn slavery, even before the 18/19th century.
Please make the sound louder.. You do great work ❤️
Noted!
Paul thanks again for tackling yet another issue many are reluctant talk about. It might be difficult to get all the books you have recommended in the short time I have joined your blog and you are always 10 steps ahead. Does the book address the burning Question of reconciling slavery and the reluctance or soft handling as it were of religion regarding slavery?
May ALLAH bless & protect you Brother.
I just saw this book online and it now you made a video about it, what a coincidence 😁
Thanks for your interesting topic. I would like to add that Slaves ruled Egypt and most of the Islamic nations for around three hundred years. They managed to defeat the Mongolian army of Genghis Khan's descendants and save the whole world from their cruelty. Another important point to mention is that once a slave woman gives birth to a baby, she is free, and the baby is recognized as his son/ daughter, which never happened in recent America.
You deserve 50k followers :)
Maybe one day!
No he deserves jannah
@@BloggingTheology inshallah
Only??
@@BloggingTheology like how you humbled yourself. 👍🏽
This is a very visceral subject. Once you establish the existence of a Creator in your heart, you will easily digest anything He sanctions. He is the Creator of Morality. Most of us barely understand the philosophy of morality yet we argue so much about it, not knowing that we ourselves have also been influenced by our society just like the people 1400 years ago.
Great work.... Thanks sir
Most welcome
excellent as usual !
Thank you! Cheers!
Slavery was usually a way of dealing with war captives after the fighting was over, partly to prevent them rising up against you and partly to secure a larger army for future battles. Females were rarely sent to battle so they became more useful for acting as a support for combatants should the need arise.
That's reminded me of a story It was narrated that Uthmaan ibn Affaan tweaked the ear of a slave of his when he did something wrong, then he said to him after that: Come and tweak my ear in retaliation. The slave refused but he insisted, so he started to tweak it slightly, and he said to him: Do it strongly, for I cannot bear the punishment on the Day of Resurrection. The slave said: Like that, O my master? The Day that you fear I fear also.
That's pretty cool
Thank you I learned
Sir, Appreciate if the list of publications of the author given in description box.
Listening to your blog I understood that Dr Brown realizes (and acknowledges) the conflict between the nowadays widely accepted view that slavery is immoral and (his) religion. But besides some soothing details you mention I still fail to see/read that (or how) the basic conflict between the teachings of Islam/Quran considered as timeless and our modern view can be reconciled.
Impossible, see the mental gymnastics of shabir ally in defense of the quran written in the desert of the 7th century by the slave holder muhammad: YT video “Dissecting apologetics | islamic sex slavery (concubinage). Really pathetic. Islam will not survive in an open society.
Do you not get bored of reading books I wish I had reading skills like you
Hi Paul.Thank you again for a splendid video. Could you cover some of the works by Muhammad Asad - The Message of the Qur'an, Islam and at the Crossroads, and his famous autobiography 'The Road to Mecca'.
Love your explanations. Can you please get a mic, audio is very low. Please
اسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته. Great points,
Sahih Al-Bukhari 2227 [In Islam you cannot enslave a free person]
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah says, 'I will be against three persons on the Day of Resurrection: -1. One who makes a covenant in My Name, but he proves treacherous. -2. One who sells a free person (as a slave) and eats the price, -3. And one who employs a laborer and gets the full work done by him but does not pay him his wages.”
Also read Sahih al-Bukhari 6050
Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
“History, Stephen said, is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake.”-Ulysses by James Joyce
I put this book on my reading list
I see a beautiful wisdom in how Islam treated the issue of slavery which was widely practiced before its time. If Islam would condemn slavery and all the slaves would have been freed at once during the prophet time, there would have been a large number of jobless; hungry and probably violent young men around, a situation that can explode at any time. Freeing a slave to forgive a master's sin is a gradual way of getting those young men to the working force of a comunity and avoiding the unwanted repercussions of suddenly freeing all the slaves. Thank you for the beautiful video and for bringing those books to our attention.
What nonsense. Slavery is allowed because of the economy!. Where is your moral compass. See the appalling mental gymnastics of shabir ally in defense of the quran written in the desert of the 7th century by the slave holder muhammad: YT video “Dissecting apologetics | islamic sex slavery (concubinage). Really pathetic. Islam will not survive in an open society.
The great work being done by Sheikh Paul Williams even we Muslims have not done so far.
Actually, we Muslims should have done this type of great work. Allah The Almighty must forgive us!
Upon looking at the vast collection of books our Sheikh has is unimaginable.
SUBAHAANALLAAH!!!
At the time of revelation, in a tribal antiquity, POW's of aggressor tribe became slaves. Quran stopped that before the first war; forcing Muslims to free POW's for free or for ransom. Gradually Quran unshackled slavery over a period of six to eight years. Javed Ahmed Ghamidi explains this process.
The problem with slavery is that it is mostly emotional, not judicial.
I think when people imagine a "slave", they imagine a black man or a black woman, and imagine the owner to be a white man.
This poses a great problem, that triggers emotions, before rational thinking.
You see
Slavery existed in the past and still exist until today in some african countries, so why isn't that problematic ?
It is because when africans enslave africans, or when arabs enslave arabs, or when whites enslave whites, it is not a big of deal, because the inter-race/ethnicity slavery is based on , wealth, power, ..., So it is based on something temporary, something that everyone regardless of race, religion, age, can be in, or get out of.
The problem on the other hand of american slavery, which single handedly refined what slavery is, is this :
1. It is based on race.
2. The enslaved race is not enslaved because it is poor, or weak, it is because it is not human.
3. There was only one race enslaved.
These three reasons are what made slavery an emotional more than a judicial problem.
If we take the emotions out, and ask ourselves, who defines what is moral and what isn't, slavery can be solved like any other problem.
e.g.
Is it moral to jail people for using drugs ?
Since one can abort a child, can they also sell their organs, to better one's life and probably other's too ?
As far as i remember, slavery is forbidden in Islam. Usually slaves are called "servants" and they have a lot of rights such as suing their owner in case of harming them. These servants are taken in only one condition, which is war between 2 nations "not groups" (other than that it's completely forbidden). The reason why it was allowed in wars, because in the past soldiers's families used to go to battlefield with the army, and so that they won't be left to die with no food or shelter after losing the battle, they were taken by the commanders of the winning army. According to some scholars it was another way to introduce them to Islam, because most of the servants through the Islamic history have converted to Islam willingly, while the rest continued practicing their own religions, and some of them became army leaders, scholars, queens and even leader of an entire kingdom...etc
I just found ur site and I love your videos Can you do a video on the word Muslim used in early religions like Judaism I think the word they used was Meshullam and i think it represents someone who submits himself...but can u go in more detail into it please
After posting my comment, I read a few other comments as well. I think everyone should have a voice. We may or may not agree everything they say. But their voice matters even if it is utterly against our understanding of a subject. It opens up a dialogue and dialogues pave ways to understanding. I do not believe that one needs to be an expert to voice their opinion based their present level of information and understanding of it. We need to open more platforms where people can share their views without being disrespectful to each other. We may end up learning something new.
0:20 I own that book too...
But never read it..well yet...
There is a case to be made that the earliest Muslim community were close to having freed if not all, very nearly all of their slaves. And that it was the absorption by conquest of Persia and the Byzantine Levant, as well as Egypt, where the subject people who entered Islam as existing slave owners posed the dilemma of what to do with their slaves to the religious authorities (Ulema). History records the scholars of law devised an entire corpus dedicated to normalising the practice (including the extension of the one half rule to every type of punishment concerning errant slaves and even, bizarrely, divorce (which requires 3 utterances for non-slaves, but 1.5 utterances in the case of slaves(!) I kid you not). However, as per the precedence established in the Qur'an and Hadith, abolishing the practice should have been the intent of the law, rather than its perpetuation.
Hi Paul could you do a vlog on Refuting ISIS by al Yaqoobi whom you mention
good idea!
In his last sermon on mount Arafat, and before he died, prophet Muhammad gathered all the Muslims, at that time and asked Muslims to treat every human being equally.
He said: “All mankind is from Adam and Eve. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also, a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.
Prophet Muhammad’s sermon was the final ultimate word on the topic and identified that ALL MANKIND are equal and that inequality is morally wrong.
We are slave to something or someone the problem is either we aware or ignorance about it. Sometimes we stuck to debt that we work like a slave to pay it. Sometimes we tied to the company law that ignore our rights and etc. Modern slavery is not a new thing. That why al quran and hadith still relevant to this day for this kind of issues.
There are plenty of slave kings in Egypt, Syria and Hijaz (including Mekka and Medina) with an entire dynasty ruling for 400 years. There are sporadic example of Slaves kings in Egypt and Islamic India. It would also be interesting to note that Slavery was path to education and leadership during the Ayubid dynasty, where Slaves were leaders of the army.
The texts of Islam took a strong stance against slavery . It says in a hadeeth qudsi: “Allaah, may He be exalted, said: ‘There are three whose opponent I will be on the Day of Resurrection, and whomever I oppose, I will defeat … A man who sold a free man and consumed his price.’” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (2227).
Islam changed the way in which slavery was dealt with; it created many new ways of liberating slaves, blocked many ways of enslaving people, and established guidelines which blocked these means.
Capture of prisoners during war was the most common way of acquiring slaves. Prisoners would inevitably be captured during any war, and the prevalent custom at that time was that prisoners had no protection or rights; they would either be killed or enslaved. But Islam brought two more options: unconditional release or ransom. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Thereafter (is the time) eit This is a brief summary of some of the principles of dealing with slaves in a just and kind manner:
1 - Guaranteeing them food and clothing like that of their masters.
It was narrated that Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “They are your brothers whom Allaah has put under your authority, so if Allaah has put a person’s brother under his authority, let him feed him from what he eats and clothe him from what he wears, and let him not overburden him with work, and if he does overburden him with work, then let him help him.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6050).
2 - Preserving their dignity
It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard Abu’l-Qaasim (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whoever accuses his slave when he is innocent of what he says will be flogged on the Day of Resurrection, unless he is as he said.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6858).
Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) manumitted a slave of his, then he picked up a stick or something from the ground and said: There is no more reward in it than the equivalent of this, but I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whoever slaps his slave or beats him, his expiation is to manumit him.” Narrated by Muslim (1657).
3 - Being fair towards slaves and treating them kindly
It was narrated that ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan tweaked the ear of a slave of his when he did something wrong, then he said to him after that: Come and tweak my ear in retaliation. The slave refused but he insisted, so he started to tweak it slightly, and he said to him: Do it strongly, for I cannot bear the punishment on the Day of Resurrection. The slave said: Like that, O my master? The Day that you fear I fear also.
When ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn ‘Awf (may Allaah be pleased with him) walked among his slaves, no one could tell him apart from them, because he did not walk ahead of them, and he did not wear anything different from what they wore.
and he said to him: Do it strongly, for I cannot bear the punishment on the Day of Resurrection. The slave said: Like that, O my master? The Day that you fear I fear also.
When ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn ‘Awf (may Allaah be pleased with him) walked among his slaves, no one could tell him apart from them, because he did not walk ahead of them, and he did not wear anything different from what they wore.
If you noticed how they should eat same food , wear Same clothes clothes like their masters.
Thus you can notice that slaves in Islam 1400 years back were treated better than house maids now a days.
A slave under Islamic laws could actually have much more fulfilling life than many people part of the working class in modern capitalist countries. So even from a secular utilitarian perspective, Islam’s views of slavery are NOT evil by any means since they do not inherently cause suffering.
You aren't correct bro
Imagine justifying slavery saying: it says to treat your slaves well. Islam permited slavery and it was widespread in the islamic world, millions were enslaved under muslims. And waht you say has no point, before islam many cultures had done similar regulations regarding slavery, stating the treatment of slaves and who could become one, nothing new. Prisoners of war were fed long ago, mostly if they were important people. And also officers were ransomed long before islam. In yihad killing and enslaving was permited. Stop justifying slavery. I mean just look to what extent you can go to justify your faith, if you can justify slavery im sure you could justify killing, truly dangerousm
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In Islam slavery is allowed only in case of wars were Muslims were attacked.
Now can you tell me what’s wrong with that ? Which part you think is bad and why ?
@@tamimi8085 Slaves were made even when muslims were the agressors. And if god is good he wouldnt allow men to enslave.
It's isn't the slavery that we first assume of what it is when we first hear it.
barakallah feek
The prisoners in Islam are to be treated fairly, given same food as the imprisoners, clothed the same way or even better than the imprisoners. They are also allowed to walk along side by side with the imprisoners and share their knowledge.
السلام علیکم
Ma sha'a Allah
Paul when will you make your own book
If you want more info, u can find it in dr. haitham talaat channel (he’s Egyptian), but i think there are caption
Slavery is not a necessary a good thing but before modern time it is not a necessary bad thing either because desperate person choose slavery as a survival instinct. Homeless people, war prisoner etc.it was part of medieval socioeconomic.
Muhammad did try to do something against slavery. He did this by example of his conduct. First, he took Said ibn Harits, a slave in his and Khadija's house, to be his son. Said ibn Harits was renamed as Said ibn Muhammad. But this was revoked when Zainab bint Jash's incident happened. Said divorced Zainab. Muhammad got a lot of critiques for marrying his own son's ex wife. A revelation was given by Allah that it is halal, because Said is not tied to Muhammad by blood. Since then, adoption becomes haram in Islam. Another conduct is regarding Bilal ibn Rabbah. After being tortured by his master, Muhammad made him a free man, even raising him higher into the reader of Adzan. The Arabs mocked this, saying, "There, the crow caws again."
Perfect sir!
I’ve got the book only started it though. Definitely not for social justice warriors and virtue signallers ! Or maybe they need to read it most of all
That’s right!
Sir, slavery developed in parallel with the rise of war and organized religion, circa 10000 BCE, when sedentism and population increase created hierarchical social structures.
@ 11:05 Bilal was freed by Abu Bakr not Muhammad (PBUH)
Bilal said
"If you have freed me for the sake of Allah, let me go so that I will work in the way of Allah. If you have done this favor to make me your servant, show me where I will work so that I will work."
The prophet (pbuh) had concubines? Is this correct or a western understanding of the situation back then. Can anyone expand on this? Did he marry the two women mentioned?
All the book that you review do ever read it all ? I'm just curious
yes I have read the whole book
@@BloggingTheology that's phenomenal, can you give me tips on how to read as fast as you
Being Muslim is a great blessing from Allah
Very nice
We all should read "Islam - The Misunderstood Religion" by Dr. Muhammad Qutb.
Wonderful
Slavery was necessary. Yet human are no animals. If armageddon hit, slavery might prove useful yet again. Although, i believe that we need to revise and improve this system so that it benefits all and do less harm on human rights.
Our respected Sheikh Paul Williams is Ibn Taimyyah of this time!!!
Zindabadh!