2 Knife Myths DEBUNKED: is Magnacut = Magic Steel? Is Hogue Deka Handle Weak? Torture test

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  • čas přidán 2. 07. 2023
  • I used Hogue Deka Magnacut for 60 days in every EDC task imaginable. Great quality knife, but it is not my best. The blade geometry is great for opening boxes and envelopes, piercing and cutting off leather. It dulls rather quickly and needs constant stropping. The mechanism is not better than Benchmade Axis lock, and ergonomics is nearly identical to the Bugout. That said, due to reasonable price and overall good design, it is a good Every Day Carry tool.
    #edc #benchmade #hogue #knife #torturetest
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Komentáře • 126

  • @MoxTactical
    @MoxTactical Před 6 měsíci +18

    This is the one channel on CZcams that divides my soul in half the most. On one hand, I completely appreciate this man and all the tests he does, as well as his extremely candid takes on a lot of issues today. But on the other hand, watching him, do these videos I feel like nothing is ever going to be good enough. You are intentionally destroying well-made knives just to complain about them when they break. He wasn’t going to stop until it broke. What do you expect?

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 6 měsíci +7

      Actually I’m limiting the number of strikes to 25. Cheap Chinese blades usually break between 6 and 12 strikes and poorly designed US blades between 16 and 20. THERE ARE SOME cheap Chinese blades that make it (Eetrified Fish, Effengrow) and some expensive American ones that don’t (CRK Umnamzaan MagnaCut). I love your comment though and am going to pin it because it really reflects the essence of my channel:

    • @MoxTactical
      @MoxTactical Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@CuttingBoardRx I wasn’t aware you actually count the strikes and controlled the test. The tip retention test for that Deka looked like you were just intentionally overworking it just to see it break. I will say it is CRAZY to think that some of the cheap brands stand up to the testing while more expensive blades are made so cheaply and can fail so easily (And you are one of the only channels revealing this information). I have learned a lot of sad truths, and had a lot of revelations about the knife industry while watching your videos, and I appreciate your insights very much. Feel free to pin any of my comments. I am a big fan of your channel. I would love to have as many subscribers as you someday 😂
      Keep up the amazing work brother!

    • @michaelcarney2975
      @michaelcarney2975 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@CuttingBoardRx Steel from the same brand but on different knives can’t be lumped together. Minor changes in the process can change the strength and sharpness of steel. Also your tests aren’t controlled. No way to tell if you’re putting each knife through precisely the same stress. Trees vary in hardness. Different handles give you different leverages creating much more force and much less in certain cases. You need control groups and a precise way to know the stress each blade is receiving. I’ve had knives break fast or last long from the same manufacturer in the past

    • @michaelcarney2975
      @michaelcarney2975 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Also I don’t buy knives to torture like that my knives are used for utility purposes. If I wanted a survival knife I’d buy a fixed blade thick knife not a pocket knife

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@michaelcarney2975my friend, I think my tests are just fine for CZcams. If you don’t find my content interesting, feel free to watch @metal_complex, he’s a knife expert, I’m just an amateur.

  • @49giants3
    @49giants3 Před 10 měsíci +75

    With a tip that thin, the steel doesn’t matter. With enough torque, it’ll snap

    • @adamimberti6948
      @adamimberti6948 Před 9 měsíci +5

      If you repeatedly stab the tip of a thin edc folder into a tree and torque it until it breaks it will break.... who would have thunk it?
      Also, people don't think the frn will break.... they just don't like how flimsy it feels.

    • @adamimberti6948
      @adamimberti6948 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@CuttingBoardRx How is what you just said any different from what I said?
      A thin tip will snap off in a tree regardless of blade steel. You destroyed a perfectly good edc knife to prove something we all already know.
      And I'm not watching your take on blade geometry vs steel.... you proved you don't know what you're talking about in this video. You don't have any credibility.

    • @adamimberti6948
      @adamimberti6948 Před 8 měsíci

      @@CuttingBoardRx Dude, you have to be pushing 60 years old. You should try taking criticism like a grown man.... because right now you're embarrassing yourself.

    • @thechugdude
      @thechugdude Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@adamimberti6948bro, relax

    • @NeevesKnives
      @NeevesKnives Před 6 měsíci +4

      Exactly, toughness comes from geometry first then steel composition etc

  • @rando27enco
    @rando27enco Před 11 měsíci +20

    Blade steel does magically make a thin knife designed for cutting able to stand up to something people only really do with outdoor knives, especially when it’s at a higher HRC. This is the equivalent of me getting a thick fixed blade in maxament, putting a 35 degree angle on it and complaining when it doesn’t put could a kitchen knife in m390.

    • @adamimberti6948
      @adamimberti6948 Před 9 měsíci

      This guy is a mongoloid. He has no concept of what makes a good knife.... ignore him.

    • @user-xf4es7eh9y
      @user-xf4es7eh9y Před 6 měsíci

      nobody makes kitchen knives in m390. custom knives and other low volume stuff that barely exists doesn't count. it's not a thing that actually exist. just like maxamet knives in general. Okay one gimmicky company whose entire gimmick is steel selection makes a few knives in maxamet. Beyond that it's not a thing that actually exists in the world. Knife bros are delusional weirdos.

  • @Mr1121628
    @Mr1121628 Před rokem +13

    Hurts to watch but glad someone is testing it!

  • @bluegrasssurvival9423
    @bluegrasssurvival9423 Před 9 měsíci +30

    Give me that knife in CPM 3V and it would still snap at the tip. The steel was so thin! Not sure what you expected here.

  • @spencew.g.
    @spencew.g. Před 6 měsíci +5

    Hmm....I have used my Deka with no problems at all. Haven't broke my blade. But I use mine as a knife. Not a pry bar or an axe.

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Well, I enjoyed filming the miserable failure of the blade, then regrinding a new, better, stronger tip on it, and then retesting it with no failure. It’s my knife and I do what I wanna!

  • @toma1460
    @toma1460 Před rokem +1

    I watched your series on the narrows, i will never own one because of the outrageous price but I'm glad to see someone actually test and put knives to work for a change. They are tools after all. Thanks for doing what you do.

  • @joesample1716
    @joesample1716 Před rokem +9

    Isn’t that more about the geometry of the knife rather than the steel?

    • @richardsalinetrojr1957
      @richardsalinetrojr1957 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@CuttingBoardReviews kinda doubtful that Chinese made knives have shitty heat treats. I won't buy Chinese made knives anymore (I'm not supporting Communists pieces of s**ts who hates the United States), but I've had Chinese blades with CPM-20CV (mind you that 20CV is a "super steel") snap tips off well before anything made with D2 (which is not a "super steel). Them breaking imo had nothing to do with the heat treat. they broke because the wrong tool (knife) was used for the wrong tasks. D2 structurally is not a tough steel which is why blade edges chip and why tips usually break off when using a folder in ways it wasn't designed for. almost any knife made with a semi of fully stainless steel with ultra thin tips will break if you're using it the way you are. Also, let me see you baton a piece of wood with that Hogue Deka and than tell me the action is still factory fresh. I guarantee that Hogue lock will either weaken (to the point of having serious lock rock) or it'll flat out break the lock especially since it's a crossbar lock that's held in place by a simple omega springs. granted there are some bushcraft knives made with stainless steels but I personally wouldn't use anything for bushcraft other than carbon steels such as 1095 or something like CPM 3V. Carbon steels are much better suited for prying, drilling holes or batoning wood. Sry, but this test tells me nothing especially since it's only one steel being tested with no comparison test with other blade steels.

    • @bluegrasssurvival9423
      @bluegrasssurvival9423 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@CuttingBoardRx It has toughness sure, but it's not the strongest steel. The beauty of Magnacut is it has no weaknesses in corrosion resistance, toughess, hardness, and edge holding. Any knife with that thin of a tip would break doing what you were doing. I think that you had unrealistic expectations.

    • @bluegrasssurvival9423
      @bluegrasssurvival9423 Před 9 měsíci

      @@CuttingBoardRx The talking heads never meant that it would be the likes of adamantium. What they meant was it would hold up better to edge rolling and stuff. Stick a thin tip into a tree and torque it and that mofo will snap like a dried twig. Now if they made a Gerber Strongarm from Magnacut and did the same test theres no doubt in my mind that it would be fine, as the blade geometry of the tip, and the blade grind on the Strongarm are made for hard use due to it being a Soldier's Knife. Now I appreciate you trying to call out the BS in the community and to say " Hey, cheaper steels still have a place" And I agree with you, I buy cheaper knives all the time, I love them in fact. Who in the hell wants to go out there and snap a 500 dollar Busse in half? Not me. While I own many, many outrageous expensive knives, I still love me some 420HC, and some AUS 8, 14c28n, ect. Hell the other day I went out and got that Gerber Ultimate Fixed Blade in 7cr17mov. Plan on taking it camping sometime next month before it gets cold.

    • @georgehernandez1502
      @georgehernandez1502 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@bluegrasssurvival9423you said it best, and I can’t think of a scenario where I would be cranking on my knife like that.

  • @slyfox4564
    @slyfox4564 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This knife is made for slicing. Its not made to be buried into a sump half an inch. The blade is strong given how thin it is. Since its a stronger steel they're able to provide the same strength as a thicker knife with cheaper steel

  • @eracli0
    @eracli0 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I think we all know not to use pocket knives as pry bars so that part is a little silly but other than that.. yeah!

  • @HunterL95
    @HunterL95 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Some of these test are out there man I can’t think of a situation we’re you would do that to your knife

  • @ElonaldTrusk
    @ElonaldTrusk Před 7 měsíci +2

    As thin as these blades are ground at the tip, this is very impressive. The deka has stolen my pocket from the spyderco lil native(cruwear/smooth g10) and i cant imagine going back. Its lighter, slicier, longer, better erg's, carries better.... But most of all, that lil native is a pain to operate one handed! There just isnt enough handle after the compression lock.

  • @realbaconproductions
    @realbaconproductions Před 8 měsíci +2

    Nahhhh this guy is ragebaiting the knife community for views tf outa here 😂

  • @kevola5739
    @kevola5739 Před 8 měsíci +16

    Super steel refers to the ability to hold an edge.

  • @R2KNIVES
    @R2KNIVES Před 4 měsíci +2

    I don’t own a Deka, or anything in Magnacut (YET- I would like to get a wharnclife Deka in Magnacut)… but using a knife as a prybar and snapping the tip proves nothing? This is the same concept of running over a Benchmade Bugout with a truck and saying it’s garbage cuz the Benchmade 940 held up better. I’ve never stuck a knife in a tree and twisted it like that, and I’ve never used a prybar to cut anything. 🙄

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 4 měsíci

      I used a pry bar to extract alcohol out of aftershave a couple of times. So you never know what weird use you might find for any tool.

    • @R2KNIVES
      @R2KNIVES Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@CuttingBoardRxI haven’t a clue what that is supposed to mean. My point however is you may as well have taken a high carbon tool steel, left it out in the elements unprotected for weeks and then claimed it was junk steel when it formed rust. I think the Deka is currently the best USA made folder available for under $200. Can you think of an option with better value/materials at the same price point?

  • @rustytygart405
    @rustytygart405 Před 11 měsíci +2

    First I think a person should understand what they are buying if your buying a thin blade with thin geometry and high hrc yes it’s going to cut like a beast and for a long time but it’s not going to take any lateral abuse knives come in a wide variety of shapes and sizes for a wide variety of uses

  • @Sleepy_spartan717
    @Sleepy_spartan717 Před rokem +12

    This testing is ridiculous. In what works is somebody going to put their deka through this? If you’re going to do this kind of testing, use a fixed blade in magnacut. And as for the handle flex, a set of original goat aluminum or ti scales fixes that immediately. An absolutely pointless video in general.

    • @bluegrasssurvival9423
      @bluegrasssurvival9423 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@CuttingBoardRx I own several knives in Magnacut, and I don't feel preyed on at all. The steel isn't a gimmick or a meme, you just used it for an unrealistic purpose, which is why you used a thin folder for something a fixed blade is meant for. You had an agenda from the start. You speak of your vast experience, but you didn't know that carbon blades were recommended by survival experts because it can strike a flint rock, and thought they meant a fero rod. If you really think that 440C is as tough as Magnacut, or will hold it's edge as long, then you are delusional. You are entitled to your opinions, even though you are wrong. And before you make a comment about me taking that much time out of my day to correct you, it's no problem. When someone makes false claims to the knife community and speaks of your vast experience, I will step in every time to nip it in the bud. I don't claim to be a pro, but I know for a fact that you're not.

    • @CagedSUPERMAN
      @CagedSUPERMAN Před 4 měsíci

      @@bluegrasssurvival9423magnacut doesn’t hold up toughness wise to some carbon steels. I’ve seen the edge on magnacut roll pretty good compared to carbon

    • @williammurphy6104
      @williammurphy6104 Před 3 měsíci

      This guy in the video is silly
      don’t think a Tanto shaped like that is the best thing for MagnaCut. That’s the nice thing about Tantos like that. If they are the right kind of steel they can do that kind of stuff. My Benchmade Emerson CQC7 can be used as a pry bar with no worry of damaging the blade. But I have to sharpen it every time I use it.
      Meanwhile I’d never try prying anything with any of my S90V, S110V, Maxamet, Sandrin, etc knives.
      I leave the crazy prying to the Kizer Sheepdog, Emerson, and a few other knives I feel comfortable doing that too.

  • @almost1real1vids
    @almost1real1vids Před 4 měsíci

    That was awesome tip retention

  • @HarryBallsonya-zb3oj
    @HarryBallsonya-zb3oj Před 6 měsíci +3

    Maybe you should try using the knife for the purpose it's meant to be used. Right tool for the job... You are the people that make knife owners look bad cause you don't know how to use a knife

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Or maybe the industry should make knives that don’t break so easily?

    • @HarryBallsonya-zb3oj
      @HarryBallsonya-zb3oj Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@CuttingBoardRx Knives are used to cut. Not to pry against the blade and pivot. You are still making the community look bad.

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@HarryBallsonya-zb3oj look up Benchmade channel official videos or Blade hq tests from 11-12 years back and see what a good knife supposed to withstand. The current generation of reviewers are just trying to sell y’all more junk and the “community” is gobbling it all up.

  • @jacobgay4032
    @jacobgay4032 Před 2 měsíci

    No pocket knife should be used as a pry bar.

  • @svenvanderzwaag1012
    @svenvanderzwaag1012 Před rokem +8

    Bruh you should do some more research and look at actual statistics (for example knifesteelnerds) instead of whatever this kind of testing is. Magnacut is not the toughest steel out there. For example 14c28n has almost double the toughness of magnacut. The edge retention/toughness ratio however is incredibly high while also being one of the most corrosion resistant steels out there. For a steel to have decent toughness doesnt mean you can totally abuse it and do things it was not designed for. Especially with a blade as thin as hogue deka.

    • @svenvanderzwaag1012
      @svenvanderzwaag1012 Před rokem +4

      @@CuttingBoardRx it is the most balanced steel out there lol. It is already used by lots of knifemakers and very highly regarded in the community (from experience, not just stats). Just because it is a very tough steel for the amount of edge retention doesnt mean you can be an absolute idiot with an extremely thin knife like the hogue deka. I dont care about whatever bladehq says (bladehq is dumb) and i also dont agree with the statement you can make the knife thinner. A 3/16 d2 will probably still be tougher compared to 1/8 s35vn. If you want to test these type of steels you need to do controlled testing. That means same blade shape and thickness, same testing setup. Not mess around, poke and pry with a thin knife (which everybody in the knife community knows is a dumb idea) and then when it breaks say it's shit. Btw if you are not convinced on the edge retention you should watch cedric ada's (who actually does some goob objective testing) videos on magnacut.

    • @bluegrasssurvival9423
      @bluegrasssurvival9423 Před 9 měsíci

      @@svenvanderzwaag1012 I agree 100% with the controlled testing. Same blade design, same grind, different steels, ect. Then run them through the same testing. I don't know of a knife steel that can be shoved in to a tree and torqued like that and survive with such a thin tip. It will snap like a dry biscuit no matter if it's 52100, CPM 3V, 420HC, or 14c28n. Magnacut is a very balance steel. It has a great level of toughness, edge holding, hardness, corrosion resistance, ect, but people trying to pretend that it's Adamantium makes me laugh. Any steel can break. Also folks forget that Magnacut is a newer steel and people are still experimenting with the heat treat to produce the best results. Hell someone thought it was a good idea to put a 61 Rockwell Hardness on a fricken folder made of Magnacut, A FOLDER!! I wouldn't even go that soft for a fixed blade!

  • @MrMZaccone
    @MrMZaccone Před 2 měsíci

    Magnacut, not unlike a lot of steels, is all about the heat treat. When heat treated properly, it's very good in all three of the categories you look for, edge retention, toughness, and corrosion resistance. When not heat treated correctly? Well, that should be obvious and is left as an exercise for the reader.

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 2 měsíci

      Every CZcams “expert” keeps repeating this stuff except for the Dr. Larrin Thomas, the inventor of Magnacut, who stated, in at least 4 videos, in no uncertain terms, that the blade geometry is by far more important for the toughness and edge retention than the steel.

    • @MrMZaccone
      @MrMZaccone Před 2 měsíci

      @@CuttingBoardRx Well, DUH! But right behind it is the heat treat and the good doctor will tell you that too. I'm watching him say it on a video as I type this.

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 2 měsíci

      @@MrMZaccone magnate is extremely sensitive to heat treat as I discovered reviewing Bel Air, which bent during the tree of doom test. Did you see that one?

    • @MrMZaccone
      @MrMZaccone Před 2 měsíci

      @@CuttingBoardRx Not yet. Just discovered your channel. I'll take a look.

  • @YouWishYouWereMe
    @YouWishYouWereMe Před 6 měsíci +6

    So your offspring bought a budget knife and wasn't smart enough to use it right and broke it. Then came complaining to you. So now you try to make videos justifying you and your D.A. spawn for not using a knife correctly. Gotcha

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Did you know that every time you make a comment on CZcams, the algorithm feeds that video to hundreds of individuals with watching profiles similar to yours, genius? So!
      Thanks for promoting my video to the mom’s basement-dwelling 25-year old leaches! At least my kid is a college grad with job, living on his own and definitely not writing idiotic troll-posts on some 5-month old Short. Enjoy 😊

    • @YouWishYouWereMe
      @YouWishYouWereMe Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@CuttingBoardRx Oh yeah... Your channel screams popularity with all those negative views. Lmao

    • @YouWishYouWereMe
      @YouWishYouWereMe Před 6 měsíci +3

      @CuttingBoardReviews And why would yout kid write anything about it? He went and cried to you about. Lol

    • @YouWishYouWereMe
      @YouWishYouWereMe Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@CuttingBoardRx There is also an option that I can click on that says "Do not recommend this channel". Lmao

    • @Zoroasterisk
      @Zoroasterisk Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@CuttingBoardRxIt was legitimate criticism. Just pointing out that engagement helps you doesn't detract from that. Any steel would've snapped if tortured in the way you did here, assuming similar blade geometry

  • @shaunweiss9484
    @shaunweiss9484 Před 6 měsíci

    What point are you making? It snapped or it's strong?

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 6 měsíci

      Tanto - snapped. Other one - strong. Handle - strong.

  • @SHTFdan
    @SHTFdan Před 24 dny

    Magnacut is upgraded s35vn. Also, what knife steel with a .094 inch thick blade will not snap when prying into a tree until it snaps? Lmao

  • @charlieethankingman9252
    @charlieethankingman9252 Před 3 měsíci +1

    He is treating this knife in a manner in which it was not designed. It's a pocket folder for everyday use. If you want to pry open a tree, I suggest getting a larger fixed blade. Duh.

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 3 měsíci

      It’s a knife test channel. I test knives. To see if they fail. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t. Duh

    • @charlieethankingman9252
      @charlieethankingman9252 Před 3 měsíci

      I understand. But perhaps instead, test them in manners for which they were designed/intended. In fairness, your tests do have a certain value.

  • @bitcheslikme
    @bitcheslikme Před 11 měsíci +2

    We have to buy knives according to how we would use it. I wouldn’t buy a Deka to take bushcrafting, but I would carry a Deka around town for urban uses. Maybe you should do a Deka test of carrying it everyday for opening packages, slicing cardboard, and small food tasks. I bet it would be stellar in those situations!

  • @TerminalM193
    @TerminalM193 Před 4 měsíci

    Why would the tip break on this but not other magnacut you've tested?

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 4 měsíci

      Different blade shape - drop point blade is designed to take more stress at the tip compared to sheep’s foot or tanto

    • @TerminalM193
      @TerminalM193 Před 4 měsíci

      @@CuttingBoardRx Here it is I thought tanto was known for its tip strength due to the blade design..... I'm still very new in the knife world. Collected firearms for years and kinda got bored so knives have been very exciting!

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 4 měsíci

      @@TerminalM193 this is a reverse tanto or, as some say, a modified sheep’s foot. A traditional tanto would bring the edge upwards to the point, which would actually strengthen the tip.

    • @MrMZaccone
      @MrMZaccone Před 2 měsíci

      Heat treat is the most likely answer.

  • @projectblitz7290
    @projectblitz7290 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I think your irritation is a bit unwarranted and coming from a place of ignorance. I think the public are just taking some traits of the steel this at face value without doing due diligence while having no idea about design and usage. A knife that thin no matter the material will fail if put to the levels of abuse you've shown. The man who invented magnacut, Dr. Larrin Thomas, a literal metallurgist with a Doctorates in engineering said himself on multiple occasions that the most important factors in the strength AND sharpness of a knife is determined by geometry, heat treat, and steel in that order. Yes, magnacut will be tougher at a thinner level than another steel but Geometry will still matter more. He says so in the books he's written, and many of the interviews he's given including with Blade HQ and Knife Center. Magnacut just happens to be the best balance of edge retention, hardness, and corrosion resistance but not the best in any of those traits, like at all (as it was intended according to Dr. Thomas).
    Folks at Knife Center and Blade HQ are not wrong, it's just people expect the world without actually understanding how a knife works and I don't think it's fair to expect companies whose jobs are to sell you things to do anything but sell you things so long as they aren't lying to you and their place of business does not cause you bodily harm. And it's not like they haven't put the correct info out there. They've done those interviews with Dr. Thomas and I've seen videos where they repeat Dr. Thomas's notes on geometry, heat treat, and steel being important in that order. It's just people want to buy the new hot without listening. I mean it doesn't look like you saw those videos either and that's not a knock on you, it just means you were ignorant to the fact they were out there. So relax friend, it's nothing to be irritated about, we just have to be willing to pay attention and do our due diligence to educate ourselves on what we are purchasing especially when the info is provided by the sellers. We have also should understand that there's a difference between marketing and purposeful with holding of information/misleading and I think this is a case of the former and not the later.

    • @projectblitz7290
      @projectblitz7290 Před 10 měsíci

      @@CuttingBoardRx @CuttingBoardReviews I think I said my piece. And yeah it's probably not good to judge people from a one minute video but just from the perspective of the video it seem you were irritated or upset at storefronts for pushing magnacut under the assumption that they're kind of misleading people. I just kind of disagree with that because of their interviews with the designer of magnacut Dr Thomas who has gone on record multiple times saying that his purpose for making magacut was to make a really good all-round steel but in no way replace steels that are better in other aspects and that his steel isn't the best. That information is out there and it's provided by storefronts. When I said your opinion on this came from a place of ignorance that wasn't intended as an insult I'm using the traditional definition of ignorance as in you may not have known that place is like blade HQ and Knife center have done interviews with Dr Thomas and have stated in their main channels on CZcams that magnacut is not the end all be all. I apologize if I interpreted the wrong source of your irritation. I do think magnacut is currently the new hype but I also think they're still a very large driving force for other steels. There's a reason why like the micarta cru wear paramilitary 2 sells so well and is now a mainstay production knife for Spyderco. Same deal with all benchmade's recent push to add more s90v carbon handled models. I feel like magnacut being the new hot has still been relatively slow to be adopted compared to 20cv/m390/204p back when that was the new hot and again I think people are actually trying more to educate themselves before a purchase and realizing you know magnacut maybe really tough for a stainless steel but compared to like all steels in knives it's not at the very top like some people would assume it is. Maybe you have more insight on the idea that companies are purposefully pushing magnacut because of its cost you would have more insight on that then I would since it sounds like your background is in the industry or affects the industry.
      I'm curious to see if you can reach out to Dr Thomas and talk about that because from his testing, and again you know his testing might be a little biased and it might not be all inclusive to include all hardnesses, grind angles, thickness and whatnot, but his charts seem to show that generally magnacut is tougher and more corrosion resistant than s45vn but has lower edge retention. From my limited time seeing him talking on interviews and stuff he seems like a very down-to-earth guy but of course you can never judge from just videos. But I'm sure if another person in the field like yourself were to reach out and dispute some of his claims or cross-examine some of his testing in a professional and respectful manner I don't think he could or would take issue with it. Again I said my piece, I just made the wrong assumption that you were mad at dealers for pushing magnacut and that's ignorance on my end. But yeah I'm definitely curious to see if you woul want to talk with Dr Thomas. He runs a channel and his website were you compiles all his steel comparisons, knifsteelnerds I'm sure will have his contact information. I don't want to make this seem like I'm pushing you towards disputing with Dr Thomas or anything, just curious. You know I have a bachelor's in mechanical engineering (definitely not qualified enough to have any deep discussions on steel) so from that standpoint I'm just of the mindset that having two people examine his data is better than just one guy who may have also his own bias cuz he made magnacut.

  • @TungstenGOAT
    @TungstenGOAT Před 5 měsíci

    Love that Magnacut

  • @barkingspider2007
    @barkingspider2007 Před 7 měsíci

    Never done this with a knife.
    Yikes...

  • @gblades5618
    @gblades5618 Před 5 měsíci

    Light duty knife for sure

  • @potroast1797
    @potroast1797 Před rokem

    Not sure why they changed from the 20cv to the magnacut
    Seems like a step backwards to me

    • @potroast1797
      @potroast1797 Před rokem

      @@CuttingBoardRx
      I have only one knife with magnacut
      To me it’s real similar to cpm154

  • @CDS.2693
    @CDS.2693 Před 4 měsíci

    This makes me want to buy a deka. 😂

  • @tuddle7174
    @tuddle7174 Před 10 měsíci

    But why the weinersnitzel coupons?

  • @LonnieHutchinson90
    @LonnieHutchinson90 Před 7 měsíci

    Who would do that with a knife and what purpose that serve?

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 7 měsíci

      Whatever do you mean? I pry stuff with my knives all the time!

    • @SHTFdan
      @SHTFdan Před 24 dny

      But you wouldn’t pry a whole tree

  • @quickdrawz05
    @quickdrawz05 Před 4 měsíci +1

    How many dislikes does this video have?

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 4 měsíci

      14.5% or 51 dislikes according to my analytics app. That’s above the channel average but I’m ok with that. Clearly this is a great video!

  • @danieldeanda5816
    @danieldeanda5816 Před 4 měsíci

    Wow a knife droke while you were misusing it??? 😮🤯
    Get out of here. Magnacut is (usually) treated to a very high HRC, which is the reason it's slightly more brittle. It's praised so highly by the knife world today because it's an extremely well balanced blade steel in every way.
    Don't misuse your knife like this and it won't break. Simple as.

    • @CuttingBoardRx
      @CuttingBoardRx  Před 4 měsíci

      Ya know, I can always tell when a commenter has already bought the failed knife. So that you know, I tested Hogue Deka MagnaCut clip point knife on the same very tree and I’d didn’t break, there’s a video on my channel about that. I recommend researching a knife before buying from independent channels that are not trying to sell you the knife.

    • @MrMZaccone
      @MrMZaccone Před 2 měsíci

      @@CuttingBoardRx He's right about one thing though. When Magnacut is heat treated properly, it's extremely well balanced. It's not made to be the best steel in any of the three categories you'd want, just remarkably good across the board. I suspect it failed due to poor heat treat, and of course, rough testing. Nice job showing us the limits. Much appreciated.

  • @edsaban572
    @edsaban572 Před 8 měsíci

    I wouldn't buy an AXIS lock whether its Benchmade or Hogue if it was 50% off. The omega springs will snap. It just doesn't work. If you open and close the knife sparingly, meaning only if you use the knife when needed, the springs will last for a long time. But if you fidget with the knife every single day, flick it open, and close it 50 times a day, it will snap in about 3 months based on my experience. Not the smartest locking mechanism.

    • @edsaban572
      @edsaban572 Před 8 měsíci

      @@CuttingBoardRx If DLT sells knock offs then I could possibly have a knock off. Omega springs snap absolutely 100% whether it’s benchmade or hogue. I have both and both snapped, one side usually snaps. But as I said, you have to fidget with it brutally like I do. They are not for fidgeting if you want the springs to last you so you can use the knife.

    • @mikeboyce21
      @mikeboyce21 Před 8 měsíci

      I have multiple benchmades. And i fidget with them like crazy. And not a single one has had the omega spring break. They do however loosen the pivot up when fidgeting a lot. So i have to tighten it fairly often. The way i see it is some springs are just lemons and break within a couple months. But if they last passed the few months they will likely last the life of the knife.

    • @edsaban572
      @edsaban572 Před 8 měsíci

      @@mikeboyce21 the fact that you multiple benchmades tells me that you don’t constantly fidget with just one. That’s why they haven’t snapped yet.

    • @mikeboyce21
      @mikeboyce21 Před 8 měsíci

      @edsaban572 what are you on about, ive been collecting knives for a long time. 35+ years and you can somehow tell me i do or dont do something. Cool story 👍

    • @edsaban572
      @edsaban572 Před 8 měsíci

      @@CuttingBoardRx You sure you are taking about dlt? They have the least amount of popular Chinese brands. They don’t sell WE, Kizer. Most of the time it’s going to be collabs with knife designers from US manufactured by Chinese companies.

  • @cruzergg
    @cruzergg Před 8 měsíci

    A disgusting bad take and way to test how good a blade steel is. Nobody should be stabbing wood like that with a folder.

    • @cruzergg
      @cruzergg Před 8 měsíci

      @@CuttingBoardRx 😂😂😂 I didn’t know this comment would affect you so much, this short doesn’t have any likes so I guess you’d already be on the defensive side!

  • @HarryBallsonya-zb3oj
    @HarryBallsonya-zb3oj Před 5 měsíci

    Lol. So many well reputable knife channels show how ridiculous this channel is.

  • @EDCandLace
    @EDCandLace Před rokem +1

    Absolutely been saying for a year and a half now. Magnacut is absolutely hype. It's a good steel but it is NOT any thing that is game changing. Even at its peak of edge retention hardness of hrc 64-65 the edge retention isn't that much better then s30v, it's toughness from my finding isn't noticeably different then 14c28n and as far as stainlessness I live in Florida and s30v is plenty stain resistant for me. Magnacut is a good steel but that's all it is.. a good steel and not nearly the "game changer" that the knife companies and all the youtubers that "review" knives that they have just opened lol say it is... the way the knife world is being advertised now is kinda silly... we literally have "reviewers" out there that are doing full reviews on knives that they literally just opened on video... kinda hard to review something and speak on steels when you just opened it... you sir I greatly appreciate because you are reviewing knives and actually testing the hell out of them and speaking the truth on the knife. You should absolutely blow up as a youtube knife reviewer because YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE DOING ACTUAL REVIEWS!

    • @conner12893
      @conner12893 Před 11 měsíci +1

      But is is though......it combines toughness and edge retention while darn near being rustproof. Multiple knifetubers have proven this such as triple B and cedric and ada.

    • @bluegrasssurvival9423
      @bluegrasssurvival9423 Před 9 měsíci

      He's not the only one doing reviews, and like him you are missing the selling point of Magnacut. The steel is very balanced in all areas without having any real weaknesses. Also, you are wrong about 14c28n, as Knife Nerds says that the steel is stronger then Magnacut. CPM 4V and Magnacut have the same strength, but neither of them are as strong as 3V or 52100, however both of those steels rust, and 52100 will dull long before Magnacut does at 63-64 Rockwell Hardness. If people are buying Magnacut thinking that it's indestructible and never dulls or rust, then they are hyping it themselves. The numbers are out there on the steel for people that look at that kind of stuff. As far as toughness I watched The Dutch Bushcraft Boys shoot their Survive Knives 5.1 made in Magnacut with a high powered pellet gun several times and it didn't break. They abused the hell out of it and the steel held up fine. Then again they broke one from Bark River due to aggressive jimping on the spine and the blade being thin. It is a new steel, so it will take awhile till they work out the heat treatment to get the most out of it.

    • @FadedJoker
      @FadedJoker Před 4 měsíci

      Your face is absolute hype, turn off your cap lock you aren't making any groundbreaking news ya dork 😆

  • @boopieboi439
    @boopieboi439 Před 2 měsíci

    Im actually impressed with that knife. I own it and know how thin that tip is.