The Self-Immolation of Aaron Bushnell
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Content Warning: Frank and nonjudgmental discussion of extreme protest involving self-harm.
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|| Kevin Carrico’s paper on Tibetan Self-Immolation: case.edu/artsc...
|| Self-Immolation of woman in Atlanta, December 2023: www.fox5atlant...
|| Self-Immolation of Aaron Bushnell, February 2024: en.wikipedia.o...
|| Veterans in solidarity with Bushnell: www.military.c...
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|| Self-Immolation of Max Azzarello, April 2024: en.wikipedia.o...
|| The Ponzi Papers - by Max Azzarello: theponzipapers...
|| Death of Samson - Judges 16, Bible www.biblegatew...
|| 9-11 Attacks on the US: en.wikipedia.o...
|| Student Press Conference / Divestment Protestors and assault footage: • UCLA Student Press Con...
|| Professor Tamari brutalized by police for filming events at Washington University / assault footage: • Cops Nearly KILL Profe...
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A brilliant podcast, no stone left unturned. I really appreciate the depth you covered in these stories. Their sacrifice can’t be allowed to be covered up or hidden in the dark.
I mean, I'm actually just doing what anyone with a computer could do from their desk. But I think a lot of people either don't notice these things, or don't take the time to really go looking for what's out there about it. A few things I have kept on my radar that are just "fading" from public view, are the results of the Epstein child-r*pe island (So far only the two curators have seen justice, and that is very odd, since it's been years now, and he was supposedly video taking and recording a lot of these interactions in order to black mail people. So why haven't we seen a single r*pist convicted? And this crosses both Liberal and Conservative lines for people involved. The other issue is the "Audrey Hale manifesto"--that should be public record, but is being withheld due to a law suite, but a law suit that most folks aren't following... so it is just sort of disappearing from public memory. I want to know what was in those writings. I may be disappointed, but I wonder if it doesn't include information about SA, that was known to be happening at the school at the time Hale was attending. The school was covering it up, and it was a scandal for a while. Things like that bother me--because the state or power institutions rely on things falling off the news-radar, to get away with so much.
Excellent episode and research, especially considering how challenging it is to find info with all the erasure methods taking place
Thanks for letting me know you enjoyed it. I started out just wanting to focus on extreme protest and the responses to Bushnell. I didn't expect or intend to find what I did (or didn't, I guess) about the protestor in December. It wasn't until I went looking that I realized how fishy the reporting was. It's like the Audrey Hale manifesto, or the Osama Bin Laden "Letter to America", or how Jeffrey Epstein ran a sex trafficking island for years with super high profile clients--but there hasn't been a single arrest yet of any of the guests who set foot on that island. Epstein's been dead since 2019, and it was notorious that he kept books and video, but zero arrests or charges. It's amazing how many things just fade from public memory and people never stop and think "But what ever happened with that, though?"
So, so, so Happy I've found this Channel! Finally I have something besides "Democracy Now" to listen 👂 to on CZcams.
Aw. Thank you. I hope you enjoy the rest of the content!
From the Wikipedia article about the event:
"Others argued that Bushnell’s [s**cide] should not be praised or viewed as a legitimate form of political protest"
How can anybody view something like that and their reaction is "No! That's not *_legitimate!"?_*
I think this is similar to the response from the police/state, when they try to shoot these protestors as they're burning and dying. It doesn't actually make sense. It's a visceral thing for some people. I mean, hopefully it's visceral for all of us. But for some people I think it's so horrific, that they can't even imagine someone of sound mind could be doing it. It's almost how some people cannot own that a mass shooter is sane. They want to use mental illness to distance these acts from "normal" or "healthy" people. Very few mass shooters have any indication of mental illness or a diagnosis. And even fewer have a diagnosis that can be tied to their violence. So, in spite of good evidence mass shooters are simply violent, not mentally ill--some people can't overcome that gut-level response that a person who could do that has to be mentally ill. All this really does is equate mental illness with violent and harmful behavior. And people struggling with mental illness don't need that additional stigma.
It reminds me a little of dehumanization. We often label people who act in violent ways we can't understand as "monsters" or "animals". I push back on this when it's done in my spaces. Not because I need people to be compassionate, but because I think it's extremely important that we stay mindful that human beings are fully capable of these actions.
It's a bit of a round about way to get to my point. But I think it's the same visceral "I cannot understand how a person can do this" response that leads to all of these reactions of wishing to delegitimize the behavior. If we can make this person "not normal" or "sick" in some way, then we don't have to think anymore around it--we can just pretend that was a defective human, and the rest of us are totally incapable of that behavior. I tend to think that most of us are capable of these behaviors, and all we need are the right circumstances or the right impetus.
I think we could all be su-cide bombers--like that Ukranian at that bridge that Kinzinger praised. Tomorrow if it's a person doing it for a cause he doesn't support, it will be an "animal" or a "monster". And a person who hasn't been sufficiently desperate may believe they could never do such a thing. But I think if they were tested, they might find otherwise. However, I admit I could be wrong.
Comment coming from audio podcast. Another fascinating podcast - I'll follow up some of your show notes to learn more.
I'm always psyched when people check the further reading. When people contact me to say a link isn't working, I get excited. LOL
powerful stuff.
It really is, I think. And it's so interesting how differently it hits different people.
@@athomeinmyhead Aaron's sacrifice really affected me when I first heard the news, and this video served not only as a stark reminder of how little I've heard of it in the time since, but also as a reminder of how easy it is for us (or me, at least) to forget history when it isn't in our faces for a few weeks. It really is suppressed for a reason.
Agreed. It really is such an act of defiance, and also one that is so hard for the state to react to. For folks who think it's a useless or ineffective form of protest, I would suggest they consider how hard the state is working to silence it, down play it, vilify it, dismiss it. If it really weren't a threat to the state, the state would let the chips fall where they may, and not care or react to it. The fact is, it's a PR nightmare for them. And they know how horrendous it would be if they had a wave of these protests they were unable to stop.
Agreed
it seems like every time i hear someone talk about the war in gaza, i think about the AHiMH podcast when you talked about the lobsters in the pot. you're doing an awesome job
Yes, the idea that if I oppress a population, they will do whatever it takes, even attack each other, to get out of that pot. And if I am the one turning up the heat or pushing down the lid, I do not get to judge whatever they do to escape that pot. I think that analogy for me, as well, was a great way to frame oppression.
Tracie! Jesus, you were my favorite person on TAE and I just now learned about this channel of yours. I am excited at the possibility of hearing your thoughts again. Although I have no idea what this channel is about :). I hope you are doing well!
It's very different content here. If you liked GB 2.0, you will probably find this content interesting. If you thought GB 2.0 was weak, you probably will hate the content here. :)
@@athomeinmyhead haha gotcha. I assume GB is godless biznatches? (sorry I made a personal pledge to stop swearing when I was 10 years old and have kept it up) You know I never really checked out the shows the sprung out of TAE, so I can't say I have an opinion on them. But for now I'll just say thanks for having an awesome mind. I have always appreciated what you have had to say.