Ranking ALL 6 British Focus Trees in Hearts of Iron 4
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2023
- Today in the United Kingdom we are going to be ranking all six of the paths in their focus tree, from A Change in Course to Steady as She Goes and everything inbetween we will being exploring every part of every path.
Along the way we shall go other what's good about each tree, what it allows you to do that another does not. But also making sure we cover what's not so good, all to find which out of all of these is the best.
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The Communist path: Wanna lag the game to a snails paste and blow up the empire for some minor industry bonuses?
Mosleys path: Wanna take over the WORLD
Mate even as France it does the same thing
It wouldn't really make sense for a communist Britain to keep its colonies though.
@@internethardcase Paradox paths dont make sense in a nutshell
Edward’s path: Want to take over (most of) the world… in style?
@@enderjed2523 want to play as the good guys? Is basically that focus tree
I hate ai england dragging +40 minors in a war while doing decolonization. Not only worst path for player but ai too.
But also AI UK and France early game guarantee every country Neville chamberlain and the French are on nope Germany don't attack yugoslavia however if you where Germany and invade Italy UK and France don't care
Whenever I see the news popup that either the UK is revisiting colonial policy or conceding to the trade unions, I make it my primary mission to do everything I can to erase the very notion of British independence just so I don't have to deal with that idiotic lag spike
@@ertrick3693 thing is the decolonization tree should start after WW2 not in 1936 instead of all at once the independence triggers one at a time UK getting malayan emergency, gradual decolonization events meaning you loose all the big areas in the world. You won't loose any brutish overseas territorys, Barbados, Falklands, British virgin islands, cook islands, ascension island ect. Major events include malayan emergency, indochina war, Suez crisis ect
@@declangaming24 Very few people plays after ww2, late games are painful
@@tech_red4277 true but it would add some historical accuracy instead of the allies fighting Soviets all the time
taureor: let's see how many bodies i can throw at the enemies before i win.
isp: does it seem wacky enough yet?
bitt3rsteel: rising levels of complaining until he comes avgn and wins.
feeeeeedback, GAming: here's a trick which i'm not going to reveal right away.
sejozwak: those other guys? they know nothing. this is how the numbers work.
mountain general: am i going to win? or am i going to lose? either way it's spectacular.
you: watch how methodically i play.
With the Blackshirts tree, I’ve managed to do the Imperial Federation with USA cores (Dominion of NA) and then form EU by April 1938. I am sure experienced speedrunners can do better.
thats how i did the one empire achievement, i garrisoned the dominions by spamming divs and didnt go ina civil war so i immediately got the us and then crushed france and germany
Just curious, how did you do that? Every time I try to release Canada as a puppet, it declares independence, even if I change it to fascist. Will it still work if Canada has a collaboration government?
@@colBohyou need to do the secure the dominions focus, then take the decision it unlocks
@@colBoh @m3an published a strategy to do exactly the same thing. I haven't watch that video but since he beats my record I assume he has better strategy.
I did that too except it was much later in the game and I had the minor problem of the game going non historical after it realized what I was doing
You forgot to mention, that you can form the EU with Mosley.
Home defense will get the tiniest buff in the new dlc
cause in ahistorical Scandinavia might go facist so you can get war goals
The communist path decolonizing is a good impulse, but it needs to not just hurt you and lag the game. Changing it to focuses like “Recall Colonial Governers”, “Hold Elections in the Colonies”, and “Promises of Independence” that give you extra non-core manpower, factories and resources WITH THE CATCH that if you do not finally decolonize by a certain point and/or when certain conditions are met, there will be the civil war and/or massive uprisings in the colonies
throw in a referendum at the end after you've balkanised the commonwealth with a chance to core the colonies like how France can with French Union
" Local man destroys democracy to get married " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 good one
Fascist is op but I really like the monarchist patch because I like to retake the colonies
Discovered your channel a few weeks ago and have loved catching up on the old videos. You have a unique style that really stands out from the rest of the HOI4 youtubers. Love these rankings would like to see more.
Wake up bubbles zest just drop another fire focus tree ranking 🔥🔥
I got that reference ;)
We're on home soil for this one but it doesn't mean I'm going to be gracious to any parts of this tree, gotta hold them to the same standards.
Story time, just like No Further Appeasement I have no footage of the historical path prepared so I had to make some for this video, funnily enough this also includes me using marines which I don't often do. You should though since Britain via Special Air Service gets an advisor allowing for 20+ attack and defence on special forces.
Stirling is truly a legend
portugal can get the same output as communist britian in 3 military focuses
Could you make ranking of all Polish paths because I think it will be very interesting to see cause they have even more paths than Mexico or Spain I think.
This video helped me understand why I didn't get the cores on USA
Can you do a video like this but for Italy, ranking every italian paths in their focus tree?
You know it’s bad when bubbles zest curses and starts shouting at the path
I think I found my new fav hoi4 youtuber!
I wish there was Jacobite/Stuartist path in Britain...
depends on if they restored the bavarian imposter Albrecht, or the "legitimate" claimant Arthur Stuart (I know I'd much rather have a King Arthur than be under german occupation)
I've never played the UK except for their achievements, but I think I should play them more because most of these paths seem really fun
You forgot to mention another benefit of the blackshirts path: Not only can you form the imperial federation, not only can you core the USA by doing so, you can even form the EU and core most of western europe.
At 1#, The Italy has at least larger navy than Germany, which might help securing naval dominance and raiding convoys.
It's odd how no one seemed to logically think about the Mosley strat before (or so it seems). Maybe that's good railroading on PX's part or maybe there's some kind of subconscious block about calling in people you don't have to since it's usually not beneficial.
Because it didn't exist until BBA released, it's a by-product of the peacedeal rework.
Hello I am here wanted for help. I want to know de difference between the different war goals in the game, for example you can get an annexation war goal or a conquer war goal. What is the difference? how does it affect me?? Thank for your answers and excuse my English
Having a civil war for not decolonizing isnt too bad when you consider how much other trees require civil wars to flip
Perhaps, but just because other paths have that doesn't make up for the communist tree's other obvious downsides.
I think the communist tree should have an extremely violent revolution (i mean you can literally slaughter the royal family) detailed very heavily and for the other side of the civil war the empire fleeing to other parts of the world kaiserreich style.
I didn't realize it before, but in every non-Historical game I had, communist UK will always stay inactive compare to democratic who will guarantee countries that are threaten by other majors, or to fascist (or even the democratic) who will declare wars. Also they always decolonize before they flip, which if they didn't, would leave a threat of them joining together if one of them is under attack, but instead you can just starting recolonizing them instead, maybe if at-least UK guaranteed after releasing them would be something.
Communist Britain is unique in that it is unplayablely bad; not in a Meta sense in that it is not optimal. No no no. It makes the game just not work because it sets your damn PC on fire
''defense'' is not the wrong spelling, it's just the American spelling. But, since it's the British focus tree, you could actually argue that it's wrong, I guess.
He got there in the end and that's all that matters.
the american spelling is WRONG
Can you make something like this for Bulgaria
8. Join allies democratic
7. Historical
6. Communist Balkan Federation
5. Historical
4. Ferdinand
3. Fascist
2. Stalinist
1. Democratic Balkan federation
Cool vid, are you planning on doing hoi4 challenges again soon
Don't have any challenges to do friendo, if any of you have any let me know and we'll see.
what is the ranking though? fun? quality? strength?
At 11:00 you mention you can only justify on countries that have raised world tension. Could you start a coup in their country to force them to raise world tension when they annex the rebellion that breaks out?
All Mexican paths ranked next?
What is the naval treatyes trick you talk about? I never heard ov it 💀
The London Naval Treaty is based upon how many capital ships the U.K. has, so if you decommission all of them, you can get war goals on pretty much every country in the world that has at least one heavy cruiser.
Haven’t done concessions to trade Union, could you win the civil war and keep the empire as a viable strategy?
If civil war erupts, the dominions join the democratic side. You can do federation THAN do the civil war to become communist and have control over the dominions after the war.
Yes.
Actually, in my experience, it's only way that the Britain communist path can be actually interesting. Sure, it's very painful and full of tears and shootings in the legs, however it adds that sense of accomplishment when you create the Imperial Federation, makes it feel earned as beat the half of your own Empire, crush the dreams of decolonization and basically put 75% of your own communist party, generals etc. to death just to paint the world red with your cores.
I never saw anyone do that except feedback gaming
Can you get US cores as the blackshirts or only the monarchists?
Both. The Fascist and Monarchist paths are pretty much identical, and both of them lead to the "Unite the Anglosphere" focus, which is how you get cores on the US (or, more accurately, how you give US cores to Canada).
All Polish paths please :)
sanation left S tier, everything else F
The finally straw with the communist tree was funny lmao "ALL THIS SHIT FOR THIS"
Tbh i was so upset doing the tree, I thought maybe it would be fun but you just arent great
I also had a crisis realizing I spell defence the UK way, for some odd reason, lmao
What’s this Naval Treaties trick?
The London Naval Treaty is based upon how many capital ships the U.K. has, so if you decommission all of them, you can get war goals on pretty much every naval power in the world that has at least one heavy cruiser.
The only argument for decolonizing is that you can crash a multiplayer game if the pro’s PC isn’t strong enough to witness the 50 quadrillion African nations
Next do Poland or Bulgaria please
I think the communist path could be at least a little fun if they basically had it exile the old British government to a dominion and then you have to fight their influence or even fight them as in go to war. Basically kaiserreich but it would be cool.
Communist paths (yes, both of them) - Fills me with pure, unbridled rage just looking at this part of the tree, fuck this dumbass path, I prefer my foot to not be filled with lead
Home Defense - Good for historical or a passive-defense approach focusing on internal stability and reaction to global events
Global Defense - Churchill's Wild Ride, or the British World Police path; neat if you want to try to prevent World War 2 by snuffing out conflicts exceptionally early
King's Party - Mostly like it for flavor, but it's still fun; it's just that it's also incredibly hilarious, especially if you kill Edward the VIII and fill your political cabinet with corgis
British Path to Fascism - We live in a period... where world conquest is actually fun
I feel like Paradox tries to do too much roleplay stuff with Communist branches. From an rp standpoint, the British communist path makes some sort of sense, but from a gameplay standpoint, it's just garbage. People play Hoi4 to expand and map paint, but the British communist path does the complete opposite, and instead of expanding, you lose everything for little gain.
If i wanted to larp, I'd download one of the historically accurate mods.
ethiopia when
Petition for poland next
The fascist path also allows you to get the most possible cores of any nation by forming both the EU and the Imperial Federation
If Iraq and Iran went fascist on historical by themselves (as iraq did), and it was a british focus to joint invade iran with the soviets, home defence would be much better
Other than that, I just wished britain had some better focuses, too many 70 day focuses for too little. 70 days for 1 motorized 100% speed up? 70 days to EMBARGO japan? Get a life, the soviets get 10 military factories with a 70 day focus
Nice British accent.
Home Defense is actually spelled correctly, you're the one who spelled it wrong
Parodox make a good none historical communist path challenge: Impossible
Trotskyist Mexico
The other Communist paths for the Soviet Union, especially Bukharin
Bulgaria forming a united Balkans
There aren't many of them, but they do exist.
@Pete Sperandio I meant it more about communist path for nations that don't start out that way the Soviet althistory communist path are mostly good
The Communist USA path says hi.
- Only ONE focus actually requires flipping communist; the rest need either sufficient Communist Party popularity or having the Communist Revolutionary as an advisor (and you're not locked out of rehiring the Democratic Reformer)
- The Second American Civil War can be beaten in less than a month (much easier than the one to turn fascist), and being at war means you can ditch the Undisturbed Isolation debuff early
- Get rid of the Great Depression in less than 18 months, without having to wait for New Deal legislation to be drafted
- Reach out to the Ware Group gives you free advisors
- Full Desegregation raises America's already huge manpower pool by 20%, meaning you can field a massive army without needing to go to Extensive Conscription
- Can be cheesed to still let you access the Limited Intervention tree's spy bonuses and 6th Research Slot
- War goals on the U.K., Japan, the Netherlands, France, Italy, and Germany
- Join the Comintern, even while still Democratic, and since you're one of the few powers that can usurp the USSR in manpower and industry, you can take control and kick the Soviets out
- The Join the Unions decision, which lets you annex the entire Soviet Union, even if you weren't allowed into the Comintern
I feel like decolonisation and reinforce the empire should be reworked into decision and event trees.
Seems like its too rough to be doing it along side your communist focuses.
Lesson learned don't go communist stay democratic, facist or non aligned as the UK
I have no idea why many people hate on the communist path, I personally had so much fun while playing the Union of Britian in vanilla, while the other paths felt rather blank, except that monarchist USA thing, if anything, the communist path puts alot more challenges and that's cool
17:40 my stupid Polish ass: 🥺
Honestly I’m not a socialist but the communist British tree could be incredibly cool and flavorful with the amount of IRL workers rights history in the UK.
There would be a better representation. Commie uk is just a shitshow. Give up from your colonies for fucking nothing or civil war wtf
You should do this format on Road to 56 for every nation
No. Haven't played it and doing so would open up the can of worms for doing literally any other mod.
RT56 is overrated