Is New Super Mario Bros. a Bad Franchise?

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  • čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
  • The New Super Mario Bros. series is one I grew up alongside, but years after their prime, are these games still good and is New Super Mario Bros. a bad franchise? Let's find out!
    0:00 Intro
    0:59 New Super Mario Bros. DS
    15:42 New Super Mario Bros. Wii
    30:53 New Super Mario Bros. 2
    47:37 New Super Mario Bros. U
    1:05:32 New Super Luigi U
    1:21:12 Outro
    This video is a compilation of all my New Super Mario Bros. retrospective videos, there is new stuff to help tie these all together and I even added a whole new section to NSMBDS' part!
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  • @thehammerbro5292
    @thehammerbro5292 Před rokem +3517

    The reason Daisy wasn't chosen to be kidnapped by Bowser in New Super Luigi U is because Daisy would've killed Bowser herself.

    • @DecaafTweakin
      @DecaafTweakin Před rokem

      fr girl would kick his ass

    • @EWOODJ
      @EWOODJ Před rokem +67

      Super Mario Run says hi.

    • @ConcavePgons
      @ConcavePgons Před rokem +165

      @@EWOODJ Didn't Daisy lock herself up in that one?

    • @IAmTheEg7
      @IAmTheEg7 Před rokem +33

      ​@Righteous 2k have you played Mario Party 3?

    • @adar1873
      @adar1873 Před rokem

      @@EWOODJ She wasn’t kidnapped, she just got lost in the pipe system.

  • @MiguelonJr
    @MiguelonJr Před rokem +218

    People forget to mention that the penguin suit also prevented you from sliding on ice which helped a ton in some levels

    • @WonkyWater-YT
      @WonkyWater-YT Před měsícem +1

      Same with blue shell increasing swim speed

  • @jakestar121
    @jakestar121 Před rokem +1620

    “It’s insanely ridiculous how easy this fight is”. *Proceeds to get hit by Bowser!*

  • @theleprechaun1403
    @theleprechaun1403 Před rokem +318

    In nsmb ds, when you complete the game, you can go into the pause menu and press these buttons in order to unlock a secret challenge mode. The buttons are L,R,L,R,XX,YY

    • @696Productions
      @696Productions Před rokem

      🧢

    • @TheRealRoronoa
      @TheRealRoronoa Před rokem +90

      @@696Productions It’s not cap bro, it’s genuinely real

    • @BriefDark
      @BriefDark Před rokem +60

      100% real. It makes it so you can’t move backwards in a stage. Like in SMB1

    • @majesticmo5048
      @majesticmo5048 Před rokem +4

      ​@@696Productions its real lol

    • @thechugg4372
      @thechugg4372 Před rokem +17

      Remember secret codes damn

  • @semario2606
    @semario2606 Před rokem +1070

    The NSMB series isn't fundamentally bad, the level design is cool and the games are all very fun at the end of the day. The mainly get a bad rep because of their lack of distinction between each other. Some level design and themes do feel too identical, but there still plenty of new ideas with each entry. To me these new ideas are enough to make a new entry not feel redundant, but that isn't the case with everyone. I wish we still got more new 2D Mario games. I would hope that we would get more games in the future, maybe with cool new mechanics, ideas, and themes to make the games more fresh, fixing the criticism many others have for the game.

    • @staringcorgi6475
      @staringcorgi6475 Před rokem +43

      I think the presentation is boring it feels like a mario game that was not made with passion kinda like an ea sports game

    • @semario2606
      @semario2606 Před rokem +64

      @@staringcorgi6475 That is definitely an issue. NSMB2 suffers the most from reused themes, tile sets and music. NSMBU is a little better with some new music, tile sets, and themes like Haunted Forest, Lava Peach's Castle, or even Snow at Night. But at the end of the day it's the same as NSMB and Wii, the changes are very small and shallow. I suppose Nintendo wanted to play it safe, but it didn't really help at the end of the day. They don't have to go all out with new worlds like Odyssey, just a little more effort can go a long way.

    • @fasttheplayer2535
      @fasttheplayer2535 Před rokem +7

      @@semario2606 I had some fun with NSMB2, awesome times with Wii, but when I got u deluxe on the switch, idk man, it felt like a cash grab. My brother and I couldn’t get around to finishing it. We are still on world 3 to this day. Felt like it had no passion, no originality, and wasn’t very fun. To this day I miss my Wii because I had NsMB Wii and it was awesome

    • @semario2606
      @semario2606 Před rokem +17

      @@fasttheplayer2535 Nintendo was leaning very hard into the casual player base during the Wii U era. Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and NSMBW all got sequels on the Wii U that were very similar to the original. I imagine Nintendo didn't make many changes and played it safe because that's what they thought people wanted. "People like Mario Wii, let's do that again." This obviously backfired, because in consumer's eyes, why get a new game when you can just play the Wii game instead. To me the game is appealing because of its similarities to Wii, but I am sure I am in the minority. If they made it like Tropical Freeze where it has similar mechanics but expanded the level design and themes it would probably feel more unique.

    • @eugenekrabs141
      @eugenekrabs141 Před rokem +14

      i feel like nsmb is a franchise that heavily depends on if you like platformers or not, i like platformers a lot and because of that i like nsmb, but if your kind of in the middle or dont like platformers you will feel like it gets repetitive

  • @TeknoThom
    @TeknoThom Před rokem +213

    Honestly love the NSMBU final boss the most due to the fact that Mario commits both grand theft auto and vehicular manslaughter to defeat Bowser

    • @That_gaming_Piplup
      @That_gaming_Piplup Před 9 měsíci +3

      I also love that games final bowser fight as well

    • @CuteRedPanda64
      @CuteRedPanda64 Před 4 dny

      And that's the only mainline Mario game where you can play as your Miis.

  • @StoneColdStare
    @StoneColdStare Před rokem +71

    10:34 Fun fact! Goomboss is one of the few original characters from Paper Mario which made it to a non-RPG game.

    • @haronka
      @haronka Před 11 měsíci +3

      Toadette!

    • @SameSeam
      @SameSeam Před 6 měsíci +1

      This isn't Goomboss, it's just a giant goomba, Goomboss made his first non rpg appearance in Super Mario 64 DS

    • @rainbowsuplex6057
      @rainbowsuplex6057 Před měsícem

      @@SameSeam He didn't say that the Giant Goomba was Goomboss, just that Goomboss is a Paper Mario character that appeared in a separate franchise.

  • @galaxyt.hedgehog8667
    @galaxyt.hedgehog8667 Před rokem +105

    I loved when super mario bros Wii had differant coloured yoshis depending on how many players there are instead of having only green

    • @ultraextraorca7644
      @ultraextraorca7644 Před rokem +16

      That made me so mad when they changed it back to just green in U. Like why???

    • @galaxyt.hedgehog8667
      @galaxyt.hedgehog8667 Před rokem +4

      @@ultraextraorca7644 ikr it's so sad

    • @MineCrapSteve
      @MineCrapSteve Před 11 měsíci +7

      And you got the next colour in singleplayer if you lost your green yoshi and found another.
      Speaking of yoshis, I'm looking forward to actually getting to play as them in a 2D Mario soon :D

  • @voiranas8161
    @voiranas8161 Před rokem +64

    Fun fact, in NSMB DS Bowser Jr. has a unique falling animation if you manage to press the switch without defeating him in the final fight

    • @quintonheimann
      @quintonheimann Před 8 měsíci +3

      Not really it's just his running animation sped up

  • @OrdinaryMarioBrosOfficial
    @OrdinaryMarioBrosOfficial Před rokem +627

    I think it’s very satisfying how they make 3d things look 2d. For example a swinging platforms from the first castle level in nsmb U

    • @autismandgaming4532
      @autismandgaming4532 Před rokem +18

      That’s vice versa

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 Před rokem +3

      It's pretty cool

    • @Kdkjdjewerdnxa
      @Kdkjdjewerdnxa Před rokem +14

      A lot of it is actually 2D. They use sprites pretty heavily especially in the earlier ones.

    • @StevenVillman
      @StevenVillman Před rokem +13

      @@Kdkjdjewerdnxa I'm not going to lie, here - the use of sprites instead of 3D character/object/background models makes the graphics look inferior, cheap-looking, ugly and outdated there. This is why I like the _New Super Mario Bros. U_ and _New Super Luigi U_ the best out of all 5 video games from the New Super Mario Bros. video game sub-series, even though I have yet to play them (I've seen extensive video game gameplay videos on CZcams for these 2 New Super Mario Bros. video games, so I know here what I'm talking about here). I strongly prefer either 100% 2D sprites (for 1980's/1990's retro video games) or 100% 3D character/object/background models (for modern video games); I don't like a mix of the two as they would then clash there.

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 Před rokem +1

      @@Kdkjdjewerdnxa nice and cool

  • @Manobaru
    @Manobaru Před rokem +67

    You forgot to mention that Star Coins in the first NSMB were also used to save the game, as before you beat the game you could only save the game after a boss OR after buying an alternate route through Star Coins. On my recent playthrough I actually saved bunch of these closed roads for later, just to be able to save the game

  • @MCastleberry1980
    @MCastleberry1980 Před rokem +159

    The games are fun, but my problem is how samey everyone looks. With the classic NES trilogy, I can identify each game just off a screen shot. Each game had its own art style and personality. If you throw up a screen shot of NSMB wii and NSMB WiiU, aside from very distinct areas, I'd have a hard time saying which is which at a glance

    • @rayanthepretentiousnerd
      @rayanthepretentiousnerd Před rokem +24

      I agree that the 2 games should’ve had distinct art styles. That one level that looked like a Van Gough painting made me think about if the whole game had a painterly art style. It’d look cool.

    • @user-bf6gz8ej4o
      @user-bf6gz8ej4o Před rokem +4

      @@rayanthepretentiousnerd Yoshi's Island has that style

    • @rayanthepretentiousnerd
      @rayanthepretentiousnerd Před rokem

      @@user-bf6gz8ej4o But I think a paint atmosphere would’ve been a really cool concept with how it alters the level design with splashes or different types of creatures or, you know what I mean.

    • @user-bf6gz8ej4o
      @user-bf6gz8ej4o Před rokem +1

      @@rayanthepretentiousnerd yeah, just wanted to tell you in case you didn't know cause it might have sparked some interest :)

    • @ewetwentythree
      @ewetwentythree Před rokem +5

      Idk, it's probably because I'm so familiar with these games. But I think they're decently distinct, just that instead of major graphical differences there are just dozens of little small things that separate them

  • @gabrielesallemi787
    @gabrielesallemi787 Před 11 měsíci +8

    And now there's Super Mario Bros Wonder

  • @DragonLord0319
    @DragonLord0319 Před 7 měsíci +6

    The blue baby yoshi was probably the inspiration for the bubble flower power in Mario Wonder.

  • @thebiscuitguy646
    @thebiscuitguy646 Před rokem +41

    31:50 He once again fails to ask the ever-important question: "How did Mario go from Super Mario to Small Mario in between the cutscene and gameplay"

  • @HorizonGaming-720
    @HorizonGaming-720 Před rokem +39

    We need the blue shell and giant mushroom power up again

    • @SilentBlossom850
      @SilentBlossom850 Před rokem +5

      Also baby tiny blue mushroom like in super Mario ds. Having to bet a boss being 1 hit and anti gravity and then be able to go through bonus pipe was challenging but amazing

  • @gboogie3257
    @gboogie3257 Před rokem +313

    New Super Mario bros Wii was my first Mario game ever and I instantly fell in love and have grown into the Mario fan I am now,and playing ever single New game in the series has never let me down at all it’s such a fun creative series that I just can’t stay mad at or hate I know we haven’t gotten a New Mario Game in a long time but for me,I can wait because I just replay all of these and still enjoy it Thank You Nintendo for giving me the best childhood ever

    • @hihello3372
      @hihello3372 Před rokem +9

      100 percent relate and agree with you!

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 Před rokem +5

      Yes thank you Nintendo and these games are pretty good

    • @novustalks7525
      @novustalks7525 Před rokem +4

      Me but with DS

    • @XXXXX8
      @XXXXX8 Před rokem +4

      I started out playing Super Mario World and All Stars. New Super Mario Bros. Wii felt like such a regression. The power ups sucked and the levels were so bland.

    • @gboogie3257
      @gboogie3257 Před rokem +5

      @@XXXXX8 cool but when did I ask?

  • @lukeshioshio
    @lukeshioshio Před rokem +17

    The mini shroom also lets you run on water and jump extremely high to access other areas. It's pretty useful

  • @kiyokoji
    @kiyokoji Před rokem +20

    fun fact: in new super luigi u, levels are actually not 100 seconds long, as they had to slow down the timer a little because the levels would have been too hard otherwise. I think NSMBU seconds do equal one second but in Luigi U they are definitely longer (not sure about the exact ratio, feels like 1.5)

    • @Jekuma
      @Jekuma Před 11 měsíci +7

      It's the opposite. A second in vanilla U is less than a real second, but a second in Luigi U is 1-to-1 with a real second.

    • @garyjones2561
      @garyjones2561 Před 24 dny

      Vanilla how?​@Jekuma

  • @thomasvandenberghe7069
    @thomasvandenberghe7069 Před rokem +12

    the Mario bros Wii release is a memory that is absolutely engrained into my being. I remember wanting it so bad and my big brother driving me to the most deserted Walmart as everywhere else was sold out. What a memory. The flip side of that is 8 year old me literally crying over and over again because bowser and his stupid lava waves would constantly kill me. Beating that game felt like I had achieved everything. That game wins it all in my eyes lol. Love the video my man.

  • @PantheraRex
    @PantheraRex Před rokem +35

    The wii version was my very first game ever, and it was so much fun. I spent hours playing it along with my brothers, and still remember how great it felt when we finally defeated Bowser. And yeah, its music is just awesome. The music in the last level is just wow. I haven't played the other games, but if Nintendo ever releases another one, I would try to play it

  • @pr0ggram3d4
    @pr0ggram3d4 Před rokem +29

    I always love coming back to the mario bros games and completing them in release date order its so fun and and nostalgic

    • @detectivemonk8575
      @detectivemonk8575 Před rokem +6

      Based black ops enjoyer

    • @Us3r739
      @Us3r739 Před 3 měsíci

      Still have my DS and play every now and then haha. I take pictures like once a year on the device.

  • @compromisedreality8827
    @compromisedreality8827 Před rokem +8

    omg the nostalgia from NSMB DS is unreal, mostly the music and level layouts.

  • @rafaelvieri2161
    @rafaelvieri2161 Před rokem +15

    Had all those games had their own different aesthetics and music, keeping their respective level designs... would they be as good as Mario 3 and world? I think so. I don't have a problem with the games. The art direction, however...

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 Před 7 měsíci

      Art anf musics are big parts. Imagine if U had the wangogh style. Instead of only one level. Also bowswr Jr drawing should be the story. Also also why not give enemies rhemes like pirates vikings ninjas etc like DKC-games

  • @oreogod1985
    @oreogod1985 Před rokem +33

    Even though I’ve seen all the parts of this video on their own, I’ve watched this video twice now. Very rewatchable content you’ve made here that I really love! Amazing job on this series!

  • @noahrichard5091
    @noahrichard5091 Před rokem +17

    New super Mario bros franchise is like a cupcake. It's a perfectly delicious dessert but if you kept getting fed the same cupcake over and over again your gonna get sick of eating it.

    • @vacuumblink2300
      @vacuumblink2300 Před rokem

      Terrible food analogy

    • @fasttheplayer2535
      @fasttheplayer2535 Před rokem +5

      @@vacuumblink2300 Maybe you didn’t understand it but it’s a pretty good one bro. Learn some reading comprehension skills

  • @TinyGuy97
    @TinyGuy97 Před rokem +28

    I used to be one of those that think the nsmb series is "all rehash and generic" but this video has made me realize just how fun some of these games can get. It especially brought back memories of me playing ds and wii as I forgot how much fun I had with them when I was younger. I should 100% them sometime.

  • @__Viviart__
    @__Viviart__ Před rokem +20

    I love these retrospectives so much, especially the ending part were it shows a montage of different parts of the game. Makes me feel so nostalgic and happy 💕

  • @atavious2491
    @atavious2491 Před rokem +5

    Why are people all of a sudden hating on games they grew up playing and liking? I just don't get it

    • @20000dino
      @20000dino Před rokem +1

      Because it's called growing up and being critical of things they once enjoyed or still enjoy ? Maybe you should try it, sometime.

    • @atavious2491
      @atavious2491 Před rokem +3

      @@20000dino Oh I can be critical but still enjoy the things I love. Heck, I don't criticize, because I'm able to look pass them and enjoy things the way they are

    • @etwasauswissenschaft4900
      @etwasauswissenschaft4900 Před 4 měsíci +1

      you are wrong@@20000dino

  • @picklelord2048
    @picklelord2048 Před rokem +2

    That little montage u did at the end just gave me a whole wave of nostalgia 😢

  • @markhunt9643
    @markhunt9643 Před rokem +7

    Honestly the games themselves are fine, if each had a different artstyle + Soundtrack to distinguish themselves from each other I don't think anybody would have an issue with them.

  • @Grapey123
    @Grapey123 Před rokem +20

    Out of curiosity, what would you rate every game in this series out of 10 (NSMB2 I know you gave a 7/10)?

  • @WindowsDrawer
    @WindowsDrawer Před 11 měsíci +10

    Who here after SMBW trailer

  • @SupaCLUCK
    @SupaCLUCK Před rokem +15

    I think these games are very good and more people would appreciate them if they were marketed better because they’re way more unique than they seem at face value.

  • @josuevillca3437
    @josuevillca3437 Před rokem +3

    I don't know what I did to have your channel pop up in my recommendations one day, but I am glad it happened! Your videos are so relaxing and entertaining that I sometimes listen to your videos while driving. Keep it up man, I'm a fan!

  • @namelessone5022
    @namelessone5022 Před rokem +8

    I discover your channel (3rd video I've seen) and I'm happy YT recommended your videos. Hope you can grow, you deserve it. Very informative and entertaining at the same time.

  • @lukecrypto1189
    @lukecrypto1189 Před rokem +5

    Thank you so much for keeping making us videos. We love you!

  • @Salvo_0019
    @Salvo_0019 Před rokem +2

    Very good quality, you deserve 30x your sub count.

  • @NoKuraiShin
    @NoKuraiShin Před rokem +2

    So glad I was able to grow up with this series, from when I was first able to process what a game is and how to use a game with NSMB, to grinding 100% on Luigi U. Its been a fun 15 years and I can't wait for any future releases.

  • @M_Z_2007
    @M_Z_2007 Před 8 měsíci +5

    No it isn't

  • @calebdonaldson8770
    @calebdonaldson8770 Před rokem +14

    In hindsight, it certainly could've been better, but at the same time, there is a lot to praise. NSMB was a strong start, implementing many of the fundamental mechanics we'd expect from modern 2D Mario, however, the game can be difficult for some to return to, and in many aspects, such as level design, was surpassed by NSMBWii. NSMBWii is a modern classic. A game that set standards. A game that checked off boxes you didn't even know you needed, but now cannot play Mario without. It is top-notch in nearly every regard, and still remains the best-executed 2D Mario game in the series. NSMBU stands on equal footing when it comes to level design, but drops the ball with everything else, from bosses to music to world maps to enemy rings to power-ups to the finale. NSMBU at times feels creative and well-inspired, and at other times feels like a shameless, whole hog rip-off. It desperately needed more development time to seal in the cracks, as well as introduce at least one new gameplay mechanic, which it sorely lacks. NSMB2 no doubt stole much of that development time, and accomplished jack squat with it. It is a forgettable, reprehensible game that rode off the tails of everything else. Nuff said. So, in short, the NSMB games started strong and peaked early. They rode the wave of success and innovation until later titles failed to uphold those standards. That laziness ensured the NSMB games would never be revered in the same way as the classics. Honestly, had the series managed to improve past NSMBWii, upping the anty in several regards and consistently subverting the audience's expectations, it could've been incredible. It could've been the best. As of now though, it's pretty good all things considered.

    • @ziggystardust4455
      @ziggystardust4455 Před rokem

      You really need to work on your spelling and grammar.

    • @nunyabiddeness6544
      @nunyabiddeness6544 Před rokem +3

      Wii is okay at best, tight level design being trashed to make giant levels that accommodate multiplayer hurts the gamefeel for singleplayer campaigns. DS has significantly better level design

  • @sandroxfg
    @sandroxfg Před rokem +2

    In what way is New Super Mario Bros for the DS „underrated“? Its literally one of the top most sold DS games. Commercials were everywhere and people always remember it for playing the local multiplayer together along with the good minigames. Its a Treasure till this Day.

  • @theAstarrr
    @theAstarrr Před rokem +2

    21:15 forgot the World 8 one - it has you lanching a giant spiked ball towards him.

  • @MysticNinTorres
    @MysticNinTorres Před rokem +3

    Having growing up playing the ‘New’ franchise since the beginning, it will always admire me every time I come back and replay them (even if games like NSMB2 didn’t live up to everyone’s expectations).

  • @Loguana
    @Loguana Před rokem +9

    Thank you for the compilation! This is really entertaining to watch, and have background noise

  • @sussyeel
    @sussyeel Před rokem +2

    new super mario bros wii was my childhood

  • @Prakooponzius164
    @Prakooponzius164 Před rokem +4

    Before NSMBWii the last 2D Mario game where Koopalings appeared was Super Mario World, the last Mario game where they appeared was Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga on GBA

  • @lucasoleite
    @lucasoleite Před rokem +3

    Wow! That's one of the most complete and elaborate reviews I've seen recently. Surely deserves more subscribers. Great video!

  • @thepredman9lol266
    @thepredman9lol266 Před rokem +3

    Loved the video! You made me appreciate these games even more than I already did. A lot of the stuff you said reminded me of my childhood as well haha.
    Very well editing and the audio is really nice!

  • @Temujin.Thinketh.
    @Temujin.Thinketh. Před rokem +1

    I really appreciated the extra editing effort at the end of this video. lots of nostalgia and the perfect ending to your commentary.

  • @Sypitz
    @Sypitz Před rokem +2

    Won’t forget how they gave away NSMB2 for free digitally when it launched, got it for free lol. Rip eshop

  • @_CPP_
    @_CPP_ Před rokem +5

    NSMB for the DS is probably my favorite Mario game of all time. Such great nostalgia, and great level designs, just great all around. Even though, I have to admit that the Wii version had the better boss fights

  • @drnightmare2903
    @drnightmare2903 Před rokem +5

    The original new super mario for the ds definitely isn't bad so many good memories

  • @retroid69
    @retroid69 Před rokem +1

    the Koopalings did make an reappearance in the Mario franchise before NSMBW via Mario and Luigi: SuperStar Saga in 2003.

  • @Neat_meat
    @Neat_meat Před rokem +1

    55:23 i love the footage you showed when talking about the script.
    Thanks so much for creating new nightmares to me!

  • @luckydawg257
    @luckydawg257 Před rokem +9

    If I’m being honest, if they combine nsmb wii’s levels with nsmb u’s world map, it would be the best game ever

  • @SuperAquaKnight
    @SuperAquaKnight Před rokem +19

    Your videos are always so entertaining and relaxing to watch!

  • @cerulean_1415
    @cerulean_1415 Před rokem +1

    New Super Mario Bros Wii was the game that I grew up on with my older brother. We got the Wii when I was 6 or 7, and all we had was Wii Sports, MarioKart, and the Wii version. I didn’t become a diehard Mario fan, but I bout cried when I heard that title screen music again. I remember being so terrified of giant Bowser that I had to go to my room while my brother beat him. Maybe I’ll go back and play it sometime.

  • @sirbabybee6267
    @sirbabybee6267 Před rokem +1

    Phenomenal video, the pacing, humor, and delivery was perfect. I especially loved the coin part. Subscribed!

  • @dapper-alcremie460
    @dapper-alcremie460 Před rokem +4

    NSMB will always have a special place in my heart regardless, especially the first game. It just gets me so nostalgiac and excited for reasons I don’t understand.

  • @kiiber9468
    @kiiber9468 Před rokem +4

    its icredible how much effort you put in to this video! great work.

  • @user-bf6gz8ej4o
    @user-bf6gz8ej4o Před rokem +1

    20:05 That's not true, the Koopalings had their last appearence in Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga!
    Also die shifting of Worlds/Combininf two world styles into one wasn't initially done in SMB2 but Super Mario Bros. Wii.

  • @minnie7453
    @minnie7453 Před 9 měsíci

    that Wanted minigame unlocked such a deep memory for me. great video

  • @mwermuthland
    @mwermuthland Před rokem +21

    "Their collection of games that, despite being so similar, are also so different from each other"... I feel like that applies more to Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, and Super Mario World more than The New Super Mario Bros. games.

    • @jamesknapp64
      @jamesknapp64 Před rokem +4

      I agree, but its also true for this series.

    • @cypress2647
      @cypress2647 Před 8 měsíci +1

      super mario bros 3 was extremely different from the original and super mario world, what are you on about lol. The original didnt even have an overworld and smb3 had an actual inventory for powerups, meanwhile super mario world was one big world with way more secrets instead of separate worlds, but it removed the inventory for powerups. Not to mention all 3 games had extremely different art styles, meanwhile all new super mario bros games look nearly identical, with the same overworld.
      This really sounds like the opinion of someone who never played through all those games.

    • @mwermuthland
      @mwermuthland Před 8 měsíci

      I was saying that about those games. Maybe I worded it wrong. It's harder to describe differences between The New Super Mario Bros. games than those three classics.@@cypress2647

  • @kryzethx
    @kryzethx Před rokem +15

    3:58 Secret exits were handled MUCH better in SMW, since they were telegraphed on the world map (red dots and most ghost houses have secret exits) and were generally obvious when playing through the level (key or keyhole just sitting around). These ALSO let you skip huge portions of the game, even more than any other 2D Mario game, since you can basically get to the final boss from the beginning of World 2, after going through the Star World, and I would say that method is also a lot of fun to speedrun.
    All of the secret exits from NSMB and onwards are so obtuse and impossible to find; they make no sense. It's also boring that they almost always just lead to a world pipe, or just skip a portion of the same world. The secret exits in SMW were more like branching paths.. although now that I think about it, I guess that's not too different. But it FEELS different, when the world map is not separated into distinct loading zones; it feels more like an actual cohesive world.

    • @BrendonCap
      @BrendonCap Před rokem +2

      Disagree. NSMB secret exits are a thrill to find. Many times youre left spending almost all the time to find it, and when you do, its so satisfying. They arent supposed to be obvious exits

    • @kryzethx
      @kryzethx Před rokem

      @@BrendonCap I 100% disagree with that; a player could go through the entire game without finding a single secret exit in NSMB and onwards, leaving them with an entire chunk of the game unplayed.
      That means for anybody who wants to actually experience the entire game, they'd either have to waste all their time looking through literally every stage of the game, because there's nothing obvious about any of them, or just look it up. Which is lame.
      SMW clearly shows you in what levels the secret exits are, leaving it up to the player to find out exactly where. Some of them aren't that easy to find, like using the cape feather to fly under the regular exit, or flying up to the roof of a ghost house.
      But the major difference is that they leave the player with enough knowledge on how to locate most of them, without requiring any outside knowledge.

    • @BrendonCap
      @BrendonCap Před rokem +2

      @@kryzethx just different taste man. You like free handouts, i like to work for it. All jokes aside, I simply think its more rewarding and satisfying to find them in NSMB

    • @superk9letsplays419
      @superk9letsplays419 Před rokem

      ​@@BrendonCap on the wii version, it clearly shows that there is a cannon you can use

    • @BrendonCap
      @BrendonCap Před rokem

      @@superk9letsplays419 no shit? Really? I didnt realize! Guys its Sherlock!!

  • @jesus-re3xg
    @jesus-re3xg Před rokem +2

    15:55 that brings back happy memories, I am currently 17 and when i was younger and had my ds I loved mario. And since we used to play with no tutorials I had to find every small detail by myself. And at some point during bowser’s castle I was really confused on how to pass the level. I was surprised when my mom helped me and turned out to be great at the game, really connected me a lot more to my mom. After I was I able to buy my first console by myself (Nintendo switch) Im just looking forward to play these games with my parents. Mario has done so much for us Its just crazy ;p

  • @sledgen.
    @sledgen. Před rokem +1

    awesome long video, I love watching stuff like this over a long time. Reminds me of the silokhawk video

  • @realamericannegro977
    @realamericannegro977 Před rokem +5

    I will say the new super mario ds seemed like had alot of excitement behind the scenes and to my knowledge had the most instresting bosses

  • @sheep6937
    @sheep6937 Před rokem +5

    They're not bad games, but they're not incredibly remarkable or memorable either. And in a series as widely acclaimed as Super Mario, that's fairly damning to say the least.

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 Před rokem +4

      Thank you! I’m tired of people acting like the people that make negative/mixed-at-best reviews are immature as if they should be more positive towards this series. I can definitely respect positive (and I don’t just mean as games on their own, but as a series in general) opinions on this series just as long as they respect the opinions of those that find that the series is lacking (even if they find these games to be far from the worst games, even by Mario standards. Honestly, I think that’s why people defend NSMB. Because they don’t want to hear bad things about Mario/Nintendo. But to highlight the times they made retro (and sometimes modern) fun and the times they played it too safe would be more nuanced than acting like Modern Mario is misunderstood when that was exactly when the Mario franchise went from hell yeah to the 1990s-2000s to a hit-or-miss) I would take (most of) the other Super Mario games (mainly Mario 3, Super Mario All-Stars, the Super Mario World series and Super Mario Galaxy) any day.

    • @TheRealNintendoKid
      @TheRealNintendoKid Před rokem

      I disagree. How you describe new super mario is exactly how I feel about the 3D ones.

  • @sherwinaw3808
    @sherwinaw3808 Před rokem +2

    Did yall know in nsmbw toad houses, you can ground pound onto ur friend's head and steal their turn

  • @vijithshankar8883
    @vijithshankar8883 Před rokem

    Found this channel less than a week ago , but I've watched almost all your videos till now , keep it up bro👍👍

  • @novustalks7525
    @novustalks7525 Před rokem +3

    They're all good games. The only thing wrong is that they've all been the same since wii.
    DS and wii are the only unique ones

    • @JustinBrown-tk7ku
      @JustinBrown-tk7ku Před 4 měsíci

      If those two were the only game, think the series would be more well received

  • @cristianhernandez4006
    @cristianhernandez4006 Před rokem +3

    Dang… watching this vid was kinda useless bc they are just copy paste from his vids before

  • @youreyesarebleeding1368
    @youreyesarebleeding1368 Před rokem +1

    It hurt my soul when you didn't grab that star coin at 27:40

  • @disasterdykeallie7922
    @disasterdykeallie7922 Před rokem +2

    I think “bad” is a misnomer. More like disappointing. I kinda think of the first one for the ds as a Super Mario Land situation: a basic game that introduced us to Mario but unlike the Land series, we never got a Mario Land 2: Golden Coins after, instead we got more of Mario Land 1 (if that makes sense).
    Considering how innovative or just flat out creative Mario was originally as a 2d platformer, dependable, C+ to B+ quality games don’t really cut it

  • @kaingussky7596
    @kaingussky7596 Před rokem +2

    This is suspiciously similar to Silok Hawks video on this idea of, a retrospective of the entire New super Mario series. I don’t just mean the idea, but yeah it is the same idea. I am talking about how similar all the reviews of each game are.
    The main differences that set the reviews apart are literally just this guy adding subjective points that are extremely dumb once you look into them for more than a second. The main one being him saying that NSMB for the DS was an underrated game, even though it was one of the best selling games on the DS, which the DS was also a really well selling console.
    I am not saying this guy 100% ripped off Silok Hawks video, I am just saying that it is suspicious how all of the reviews in a 1 hour and 20 minute video are all structed very similarly to his video.

  • @HgordoX
    @HgordoX Před rokem +5

    New Super mario bros 2 is underated

    • @TheRmaster86
      @TheRmaster86 Před rokem

      Its fu**ing overratet, the maps are so damn uncreativ. Compare it with donkey kong tropical breeze for example. It looks so ugly if you compare it.

    • @HgordoX
      @HgordoX Před rokem +1

      @@TheRmaster86 wasnt comparing it to anything lol

  • @Flare8295
    @Flare8295 Před 4 měsíci

    Fun Fact:During the Bowser & Dry Bowser Boss Fights in New Super Mario Bros 2 the claw swiping attacks actually don't hurt you that just destroy the platforms

  • @GametimeUKyo
    @GametimeUKyo Před rokem +1

    You sound so incredibly happy at the beginning of your sentences, but so sad on the closing words of your sentences. Great video, I love these games.

  • @tinfoilslacks3750
    @tinfoilslacks3750 Před rokem +6

    I think that NSMB is a great way to illustrate that "form is a function all its own". The first was fantastic on all fronts. The second added the gimmick of multiplayer but the single player experience was fundamentally the same, and the biggest thing that drew the most interest pre release was the return of the koopalings. More than a decade later, the other two have added two power ups, both specific to their games and retreads of existing power ups, and are otherwise the same. You could hypothetically transpose s NSMBU level into NSMBDS, and aside from graphic/processing limitations things would be exactly the same.
    We put gameplay on a pedestal because it's the unique element only this medium has, but the other elements are relevant. It doesn't matter than NSMB as a series has tight fun gameplay, the games need distinct identities that make them engaging.

  • @Finngrinder
    @Finngrinder Před rokem +5

    My biggest issue with NSMB is what I call the Yoshi syndrome. Crafted World and Story can be 200/10 games otherwise, but it speaks volumes that Crafted World becomes a billion times better as soon as you underlay Yoshis Island music. For NSMB, Bah Baaaaaah is no soundtrack in my world, no matter how good or bad the music might be, it just annoys me to death

  • @reacts
    @reacts Před 8 měsíci +2

    NSMB DS also had the boo houses which were very cool levels

  • @butcherkevin
    @butcherkevin Před rokem +1

    this is a great video. Something i found funny though, is that line about nsmb ds being an underrated game, but then right after that in the nsmbwii segment its said that nsmbds was the 2nd best selling 2d mario game, i think it's odd to say its an underrated game when it seems like it was quite popular. I guess you could argue selling well doesn't mean the game wont be underrated or something.

  • @kompst_tu
    @kompst_tu Před rokem +3

    Really don't get why there's dislike for these games. Like yeah I can see lack of innovation but they all feel quite different to me when I play them, but based on the game style. This is personally my favorite franchise because it's what I started with, and the sounds and visuals are just great. Don't really know why we're having the debate that this franchise sucks when it really doesn't.

  • @DudeDonZeSam
    @DudeDonZeSam Před 9 měsíci +3

    2D mario rumors were right 😭

  • @SebastianGMSFB
    @SebastianGMSFB Před 8 měsíci +2

    This sub-franchise is vaguely the main reason as to why that meme of *My Dancers: Koopas, Goombas!* aka *Bah Bah* remotely even exists :)

  • @67tedward
    @67tedward Před rokem +1

    7:05 I honestly wonder if the minigames were supposed to be its own release but they just ended up adding them to mario 64/new super mario bros ds.

  • @Megaman.ExE7
    @Megaman.ExE7 Před rokem +3

    I'm tired of people talking bad on NSMB. These games definitely still hold up by today's standards. In addition to that, NSMB DS gets flack for being 'unoriginal' by today's standards when in actuality it literally brought back 2-D Mario to the modern era. Mario Bros Wii made multiplayer (wonky) fun and inventive and NSMB U had Luigi U which was one of the best level packs we've seen since NSMB 2 (Which I can admit feels like the most contrived game).
    NSMB is a great series and I think everyone needs to boot up an old copy and remind themselves why they love Mario in the first place

    • @TheRealNintendoKid
      @TheRealNintendoKid Před rokem

      Wait... Luigi U has different levels? I need to give them a try then.

    • @ZeroKitsune
      @ZeroKitsune Před rokem

      I've always though NSMB was bad, dude, you can't remind me why I love it in the first place when I never did. I bought the DS one on release and thought it was boring. Yes, even back then. For me, SMB3 was the pinnacle of 2D Mario that they never surpassed (World is still good though).

  • @kakiwav64
    @kakiwav64 Před 9 měsíci

    Never played it, but i love that in the intro cutscene to NSMBU Mario reacts first (of course) and Luigi comically reacts last

  • @jamesknapp64
    @jamesknapp64 Před rokem +2

    50:08 in defense of the change, this type of thing happens on Earth as well. For example: Go from Northern Arizona (say the town of Flagstaff) and you'll be in the Mountains and cold and snow; and go down I-17 towards Phoenix and all of sudden your in the Desert where its hot, dray and sunny. I'm sure places like that exist in Japan where you have Mountains.

  • @niyol8982
    @niyol8982 Před rokem +1

    NSMB DS 1 and 2 are some of my favorite games I've ever played, most ppl who hate the series never even played it

  • @NinetyLegos
    @NinetyLegos Před 11 měsíci +1

    Propeller Mushroom was absolutely broken

  • @benlee7565
    @benlee7565 Před 9 měsíci

    In the first NSMB, I brute forced through the mini boss.
    It already took enough brain power from me to figure out the loop puzzle, so I kept a mega mush on me to use to step on bowser. (Didn’t work that easily tho, he actually claws your back if you try to)

  • @loweinloisa4153
    @loweinloisa4153 Před rokem

    "The guy from the baseball game" hit me so hard
    I was big fan of that game and i remember petey piranha from there too

  • @QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4
    @QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 Před rokem +2

    I think the next game can have a 3D world like artstyle and have a twist on existing level theme. 9 tweaked worlds and 9 remixed world which have their original theme. A red desert and ice-covered snow world is a good example. The power up can be poison flower where you have to wait a while before defeating enemies and a cheese that turns mario into mouse mario which let mario walk on ceilings. They should have original bosses instead of boom boom in the tower levels like mega hammer Bros or king bob-omb. The castle having Koopalings is fine but they can have interesting attacking method once in a while. The world map can be more inspired by Mario world in certain worlds while keeping the format for the others. Would be nice to see more obscure and new emeries like shy guys and goloomba. There can be more moves to reward advanced players like roll and long jump. The score system should be hidden and the game should limit Mario to 25 lives. Coins also should reward you with power-ups when it reaches 100. I think that’s enough for a new 2D Mario.

  • @2shy2guy52
    @2shy2guy52 Před rokem +1

    I forgot that this year is what was supposedly going to be year of Luigi 2, I guess after that horrific failure they aren't taking more chances, I guess we can't blame them.

  • @linexi
    @linexi Před rokem +1

    I appreciate the effort you put into your videos, keep it up :)

  • @Thundervolt888
    @Thundervolt888 Před rokem

    I’ve seen all the previous videos does anyone know where the new content is exactly in this video time stamps please

  • @fantasyshroom9528
    @fantasyshroom9528 Před 7 měsíci

    Fun fact: in 5-Castle, there is a block that can net you a mini mushroom.

  • @theAstarrr
    @theAstarrr Před rokem +1

    4:12 it's the only block moving at a different speed too