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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2020
- With the UK in lockdown, we're doing the responsible thing and working from home as much as possible. But Mark's spare room sounds AWFUL!! So what can be done? It's amazing what a vast improvement you can make to even the worst sounding spaces with a little imagination, and a few things you'll have around the house!
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Ah, so my room is not messy, it's just acoustically treated!
🤣Same here!
yeah i’m suddenly realizing why i never worried about this as a teenager in a bedroom surrounded by a total mess. as an adult with a clean apartment this became a problem. great advice sir, thank you.
A great excuse not to tidy up! I didn’t actually think of it like that, but you’re right!
There is a hell of a lot of crap on CZcams regarding acoustics and room design. This is an exception. Although I have been involved with several builds/designs of studios and venues, I seem to pick up something new from every PresentDayProduction video I watch.
This is genuinely the best channel on CZcams for practical information and honest advice on building a good control room. Thank you.
Mark - what advice would you give for open plan room design?
My late mother was a singer so I used her old towels and duvet wrapped in white Draylon (synthetic crushed velvet) in my vocal booth and it works beautifully! I'm glad, its a nice tribute to mum :o)
I recorded the ticking of a metronome and looked at the wave to see the reverb tail in my untreated room.
I was shocked to see the amount of Reverberation on the wave of the tick.
I remembered that my wife chose some curtains for a patio door that she did not end up using them, so I made a false curtain on the entire back wall and that alone made a huge difference
Instead of making wooed frames with all the trouble and work with saws guns sanders screws brackets and glue etc., I went to my local DIY store and bought 6 flatpack cardboard packing boxes. Once home all that is needed is to cut of the top and bottom flaps off with a stanley knife Then i drew a line all the way round the four sides then cut round this line giving me two boxes 6ins thick.I then filled them with a wool like insulation and simply tied them together with a thin cord. Job done. Cover them if you like i didnt and just stacked then around my room, never sounded better.
I have a feeling that we'll all be grateful that the pandemic happened because it brought us this quality channel, which actually helps probably 80% of musicians making their music at home and in project studios. Great stuff!
On top of having great content, this channel has a truly unique type of wackiness. Fascinating stuff.
Dear Mark, what camera did you such an injustice with the sun behind you? Love your channel. Brutally honest, and with a few exceptions I agree with your conclusions. Comment applies not just to this video but to many other videos also, . The towel idea is brilliant., it shocked me cos I've been using a similar idea, without the wood panels, using only towels, but never dared to mention this to anyone, for fear of them thinking I was stupid. But it worked for me - been using this for about 4 years, and what a relief to hear the effectiveness in your own spare bedroom. Brilliant - one of the best videos on audio I have ever watched. Fantastic - real world - no BS advice. Well done.
Thanks for the comment! iPhone camera for that one I think... we’re using a Black Magic 6K for everything after the Pultec video 👍
I love your helper, the cat. I can tell he's fascinated by work--he can watch it all day long!
I use heavy moving blankets that I can get for $10 a piece at a local hardware store on the walls of my live room and it does great for cutting down reflections.
The creativity and simplicity is genius. And just plain fun!! It’s given SO MANY cool ideas for what I can do with my room and genuinely excited for the first time about room treatment (or room improvement rather!)
Wow, I know from experience what a challenge a small cube room is to treat. I can't believe how much better that sounds. Towels instead of rockwool? Just wow.
Extremely well done...unbelievable difference!
You're killing me with the handsaw . Carpenter for 38 years . I think I would have used 1x4 pine or 31/2 strips of decent stable plywood . 2x4s have a mind of their own especially after a period of time . And heavy. But room sounds great now.
Love the cat watching you build frames, so entertained by your work.
Awesome vid, picked up some tricks on going cheap which is always really nice.
Thanks PDP! I have been meaning to do something about my square bedroom studio for ages...and never got around to it. This has given me the inspiration I needed. I hated the thought of spending money on accoustic treatment but you have shown me that it's possible to achieve freat result for minimum outlay. Fantastic!
pillowcases stuffed with rockwool then sealed with duck tape can be put in various places
Heck yeah, I have lots of rock wool just laying arround on my loft 😁💪💪
@@DIFY Where do I find bulk rock wool?
3:23 made my day :) "I've found some wood, I've got a saw and I have a massively overexposed head, but who cares..." Thank you for the video !
Great little vid Mark. There will be a few critics but they are not seeing the great point you are making which is you can have basic and almost free acoustic treatment done to your space without the need for forking out a shed load of money! Will be great for home DJ's and Producers who haven't got the money to spend. New subscriber on board. Will check out your mastering service too. Cheers
Wooden pallets and stacked, plastic milk crates, stuffed with clothing and linens (salvaged from the waste stream of thrift stores and donation centers) ... GOOD books, for free, from the waste stream of half-priced book re-sellers.
Very nice advice and proves that it is possible to improvise a solution for free. Cheers
Wow Mark, it sounds like a completely different room! I’m about to move into a rectangular room (apartment) with concrete walls/ceiling, carpet on floor and big loft style window behind my desk. Hoping I can treat it with your tips!
Hey Ryan, yeah it sounds generally great now - a few issues in the low end, but that’s to be expected in a square room, and bumps are mainly in the corners and dips are in the middle, so behind the listening position. Try and get your speakers firing down the long end of the room when you move, and try to get your listening position about a third or two thirds down. Avoid the middle. Let us know how you get on!
Great video. Loved the scene where the cat was supervising as well!
Best Rockwool cutter? An electric carving knife, from any thrift shop, or any charity shop. Soft up front with your speakers, middle of the side walls, not of soft, and the wall behind you, acoustic wooden dispensers.
Still very relevant over a year later. Thanks.
wow, what a great thumbnail.. so original!
That's the channel I've been seeking for a long long time! Great job, guy! Thanks ❤
I'm currently stripping all the heavy stuffing out from a futon mattress i'v had laying about for years.
Extremely dense fibers,
and you can find them second hand on FB marketplace/Gumtree etc usually for £10 or so. If you're lucky, free to collect.
I plan to use the material in acoustic panels.
The thumbnail is so goddamn hilarious 😂
Great video! People spend too much time doing reviews of gear (nothing against it, I watch quite some of them) but not enough of "How to" and DIY videos of acoustics! Most people, me included, have a crappy room that they have to work with sometimes, this is great content for all of us. Cheers!
Thanks for this fantastic video! I’m just setting up my home studio mix room properly and purchased a prime acoustics room panel kit and it’s been sitting in the box for two weeks. I’ve been going down rabbit holes and getting totally confused with where to start and place things. This video was very helpful at identifying the critical areas and cheap and effective ways to treat the room.
Can you believe that my absorbers filled with towels and foam from an old couch sounded better, than now with rockwool?? I was a quitw dissapointed of the result. I couldn't messure it, but the treated area was subjectively very dry an well balanced (nearly no thump while talk, like the air was thinner in thaz spot) compared to the rest of the room. It was magical. 😃 rockwool does his job, but this complete dry effect is gone.. 😔 is this possible, or do my ears trick me ?
Btw, your video inspired me to built my first absorbers .. it was a game changer!! Thanks a lot 💚
i used towels a couple of years ago in my studio, i didn't even bother with frame, i just put up a couple of towel racks and draped about five towels over each of the racks, plus i got an air gap behind the towels.
That's so cool!!!
How well did it work???
@@zachary963 I put the towel racks at the reflection points of the room, I also made a couple of rockwool corner panels, but ran out of rockwool, so I used the towels, I think they work quite well, better than nothing . Thanks for great content.
Thanks for this great video! For my studio space, when recording, I plan to move my mattress onto the back wall, put some jumpers and clothes in the corners and hang up a thick duvet on the last untreated wall. My question for you is: What is the best way to temporarily hang a duvet up on the wall? I have two mic stands, one large and one about half size, and permanently installing hooks or something to the wall is out of the question as we're putting our home on the market very soon (my new home will have a treated dedicated studio hopefully!).
Additional: I mix on headphones almost exclusively as I cannot afford monitors at this stage, so it's only when recording that I need treatment! Although now I think about it, I will probably use my iMac speakers for reference points.
Man that's a different room to my ears! Great work!
7:50 nice variation on the classic “CZcams background iMac flex”; the disused Mac as prop for stuff.
yes, if you randomly have 9 good 2 x 4's, 4 sheets and 15 old towels plus, a stud finder, drill, saw, tape measure, free as a MF.
I love the production of the video. Liked and subscribed. I don't think my wife would be very pleased, however, if I were to stack bags of compost in the back bedroom and put a mattress up against the wall.
With a mixer like that, nothing can go wrong 😁
Sounds great quite an improvement!
When redoing my home "studio" I got exactly that same IKEA desk! But in black :-)
BRILLIANT! I'm about to do something similar myself. Thanks!
Thanks so much for all smart advices 😀
Thanks for the great simple tips.
You forgot the Yeti, imagine what difference this would have made as well.
Nice video! 😁
Very inspiring. I really enjoyed this video. Thank you for sharing. Time to go get some wood, fabric and the densest towels I can find 🍻
Really appreciate this.
Just came across a couple of your videos and quite enjoying your content. Cheers from a fellow music maker.
All your Videos are just awesome! Keep it up please :)
great work men! have a great day! I used paint frames with stuff inside and a big curtain and a sofa, that worked out for the moment :)
Love these guys. Keep doing what you’re doing I’ll share some videos for you.
Thank you very much Nate!
The room I do my dayjob in used to actually sound pretty good. I just had bookshelves and stuff up. Then I moved a lot of that stuff out, and now it sounds like crap...
Very usable information on this channel.
Thanks Marin!
I got my box room to treat. Thanks for your tip.
It sounds like you switched to a lav mic for the "after" portion of the video.
Here's a funny little suggestion for creating your own control room with reasonable acoustics. For really no cash outlay. It's very funny and simple.
You merely have to contact school systems and municipal libraries. They are always throwing out dozens and dozens of damaged books. Along with changing out from time to time. Their old floor to 8 foot high, freestanding bookshelves. And you collect yourself a shit load of books. And at least 7 or so freestanding bookshelves.
Now you don't push those bookshelves flat against your walls. Only one end goes flat against the wall. The other end goes a couple of inches out from the wall. Where it will meet up with the other one. That will end up back against the wall at its other end. And behind you. Perhaps one in front of you. And you call your studio The Library Studio. They will think you're really smart. And when they've asked you if you have read all of those books? You tell them you have. You read the covers of all of them. And you could judge where to place them for best acoustic value. And so you get not only diffusion. You get mass. You get the mass of a log cabin. Inside your room. A room within your room. Made from logs. No thicker than a piece of paper. And some book bindings. Made of cloth and such materials.
And what does that cost? Gas beer food pot. And that's about it. Maybe some nice LED rope lights for 50 bucks? Make it look really pretty. Make it seem like you are almost intelligent. Your control room is inside your library. How intellectual of you. I only read the best of Dick and Jane, novels. But sometimes I go MAD. What? Me worry? Not with spy versus spy. I mean what the hell was Harry Olson thinking about? What? You want to put your wall on a hinge? Madness! That's madness I tell you! Sheer madness! What a great idea! Put your bookshelves on hinges! Available at a farm supply store near you. They make them for barn doors don't they? Wouldn't that be great? Hey check it out. I could move this entire wall of books! Oh wow! You're so strong. And handsome. Well maybe just strong? Especially if you could move your wall of books with your ass. And you could! Everybody's going to want that! And they will look and say oh you have such large hinges Mark. And they will get all hot and bothered. Some will even get jealous of the size of your hinges. How did you get those so big? Well it was a big black Smith that did it. Ouch!
And that's how you design your control room and studio with no cash. You get smart. You use books and shelves. You can get those for free. You don't have to build anything! And they will have a great patina about them all. It'll even smell like a library! And who wouldn't want that?
The smell of musty knowledge.
RemyRAD
Brilliant, I’m just about to try and tame my square room too!
Great video and nice to see the subs growing on this great channel 😀😀😀
Nice work. What’s your desk there?
I'm in a rental house, I like this idea, though I would probably have to just lean the panels, because I would not be able to drill holes or any thing, though I have acoustic foam and used belcro and command strips. they hold a little but I need some thing better because they tend to fall off at times.
Immediate thumbs up for the dedication to social distancing. Nice DIY skills too!
Fantastic video! Well done and fun to watch and listen too! Thanks
Really nice results!
Thank you 🙏
Thanks Mark. Great content.
Great Video! What type console/mixer is that ? Is it audio AND video? Thanks!
that's interesting, I thought the first point to attack is all the corners in the room, to putt absorbent there and me the corners angled
How did you hold the towels inside? And did you put a backing on the panels?
In the untreated room you are using a distanced mic, in the "treated" room a lavalier mic, which is close to your mouth. A fair comparison had been to use the same mic source as in the untreated room. Your untreated room had been sounding much drier as well with the lavalier mic, as this is intended not to capture the environment. Good "wow" effect to surprise viewers ;-)
Thank you so much I really appreciate this video I am new to your channel I have all of my equipment I need for a home studio now I just need to properly treat my room I’m eventually going to get better monitors studio monitors
Bath towels are good. If you layer them then they could be better than some stuff sold as acoustic treatment. If the walks are brick then no use trying to change the shape but if the walls are wooden studs covered with the usual plaster sheets then you could make the walls to be grooved/rippled/wavy. Flat walls are NOT ideal
Great stuff
Can I ask what Speaker stands they are in this video? Can you vary the hight on them ?
Quality video really useful for bedroom producers.
You’re a good chap, sir. Great video.
My main room is just 8FT deep, my triangle would but put the centre triangle seat somewhere near halfway out. With the wall in front being the life end, and the wall behind being the dead end, would I need lots of material than can absorb sounds, as surely they'll all bounce back after only travelling 8 feet, that won't be ideal.
So been into hardcore n house music scene in uk n security of many events always wanted a set up like to learn practise create mix n produce my music what would cos me to set up having no prior experience in setting up a bedroom studio n selection of cheap budget equipment to start this journey am creating tia cheers elsikka tv
Psychologist:Get your sh*t together! The clutter symbolizes the state of your mind.
Acoustic Specialist: Nice Acoustic. no Standing waves, no room modes. You don't mind if i step on things, do you?
Got any decent ways to do DIY testing on any more serious attempts at sound treatment one might build (without access to an anechoic chamber)? I do have a UMIK-1 and REW.
Great video 👍👍
Thank you for this I’ve been struggling for so long
*TOWELS!* .. towels .. *TOWELS!* .. towels ..
reference the start of the vid with the end ....wow ...huge diff !!
Two different mics.
Would doing a massive poo in the middle of the floor help with acoustic treatment? Or would you not recommend? Let me know ASAP. Pls
Awesome tips! That unmask a bit a room treatment, from headache to nice solutions :) BTW what are those white speakers there? Thanks
They’re LD Systems Dave 8 XS
@@PresentDayProduction Thanks a lot for the reference, looks nice, wonder how they sound.
The secret is the plant in the corner 😊
Very inspiring, thank you
Hi Mark. Noticing the blinds on the window behind your desk, I was wondering what effect blinds would have? Like ceiling to floor vertical blinds, especially fabric ones. Just curious ?
great vision for improving a room!
half year later this video still remains very relevant :D
I wonder, how would you recommend to treat walls without drilling holes in them? what standalone absorber would make sense?
Yeah stand-alone absorbers are great - and you get a nice gap in between them and the wall which makes them far more effective
@@PresentDayProduction any idea for easier DIY way? I saw some folks at CZcams using cheapest IKEA shelves as complete self-standing frames, what do you think about that?
Whatever works really - in this room I leaned a bed up against the wall! A bookcase stuffed with pillows makes a great absorber too. Just experiment with whatever you have already in the house. Some acoustic treatment is nearly always better than none at all
@@PresentDayProduction thanks for heads up!
I started with proper placement few months back, it's funny to see picked practically same layout, facing window :D
I figured out 2 big wardrobes placed symetrically (on sides behind my seat) filled with hanging clothes work really well as sort of basstrap/resonators
Cool video, but kind of lost me on the first reflections bit. If your friend is walking along the side wall away from the speakers (behind you if you’re facing the speakers), how do you see when the speakers are in the mirror? Or should you turn to follow them/the mirror? Sorry if this is a really dumb question 😄
Ah, never mind. Google was my friend. I guess the first reflection point is actually in front of you on the side wall not behind you like I was picturing in my head.
What’s the best shaped room then?
Nice to see Wonkie helping out!....
By ‘helping out’ you mean sitting there watching, until my face is within swiping distance?!
What is that brand ur monitors have in them, n why is ur computer the same name…who makes them??
Can you talk about the board and monitor you are using what DAW thanks great job
Very inventive, cool! Subscribed :)
Out of interest, how did you get on with using the DAVE 8XS for monitoring? On paper, the system response curve is smiley, and the subwoofer could go a bit lower, but the mids seemed quite detailed when I tried it.
love this guy. mad beast. great writer