Use of the inside leg to change turn radius

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  • Driving the inside knee properly will lead to higher edge angle and a shorter turn radius.
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  • @ageofaqu
    @ageofaqu Před měsícem

    Adopting this technique has changed the way I ski. Thank you! 🙏🏽

  • @adherencefitsportswellness6377

    This woman recording is amazing!! she’s asking all the right questions and projecting his potential to greatness. She is the coach, the teacher, and she’s transforming him into a masterpiece

  • @jonathancannon6823
    @jonathancannon6823 Před 2 lety +172

    Wilson has the winning combo, listening/thinking, always learning, youth and a great coach in Deb's experience and wisdom!

    • @alexvolkov529
      @alexvolkov529 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah, it's so true! I don't know why I didn't have that ability to listen to and comprehense information given to me in my youth!

    • @cwgumby
      @cwgumby Před 2 lety

      Fr totally agree

  • @profpat70
    @profpat70 Před 2 lety +66

    Many teachers focus on outside leg EXTENSION, but, as demonstrated here, inside leg FLEXION is where the real magic starts to happen. Have to say it: Harald Harb (PMTS) was way ahead of the curve with this move.

    • @jackh577
      @jackh577 Před 2 lety +8

      Harb is fantastic!

    • @karlk9316
      @karlk9316 Před 2 lety +10

      Yes, Harald Harb observed how the greatest ski racers in the world were skiing as the design of alpine skis suddenly evolved, and designed his Primary Movements Teaching System (PMTS) to be effective and accessible to all skiers including beginners. Harb's learning and teaching materials are outstanding.

    • @anatoli28
      @anatoli28 Před 4 měsíci

      Harb,s phantom move is diferent

    • @evanfinch4987
      @evanfinch4987 Před 3 měsíci

      just ski down the damn hill

  • @mrsmartypants_1
    @mrsmartypants_1 Před 2 lety +48

    Ha ha ha. I love Wilson’s honesty and openness admitting that he thought Deb “was crazy and I probably shouldn’t listen to you” and then discovers Deb’s advice was spot on. Great teacher and a very smart and articulate 12-yr-old. Kudos.

  • @rickmccarren6061
    @rickmccarren6061 Před 2 lety +20

    A ski instructor friend watched this last night and brought the drill with him this morning when we met up. We both instantly felt the skis "attack" the radius as we brought the knee up. What we got really excited about is in teaching this to help our students increase angles without a lot of words about the inclination or angulation. The student will feel this as soon as he/she brings that inside knee higher. We had great fun playing with this all morning. Thanks for the video.

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 2 lety +2

      Love it!!!!! Thank you for the post

    • @tominatorix
      @tominatorix Před rokem

      What's the drill?

    • @rickmccarren6061
      @rickmccarren6061 Před rokem +4

      @@tominatorix What we did was to start on harder green to easy blue runs with big C shaped turns and then have the student work into shorter and shorter turns with getting the knee up higher with each turn directing more pressure to the outside as the turns got tighter. For some students, telling them to "open the door with the inside knee and drive the outside ski through the open door" seemed to help get the idea across.

  • @MrCougarmania
    @MrCougarmania Před 2 lety +6

    Thanks Deb and Wilson, I learned so much from this post , ps I am a late starter at skiing, 64 yrs young and never too old to learn

  • @riccapatrol
    @riccapatrol Před 2 lety +5

    One of the best upload Alpine Ski analysis videos of 2021/22 season! Bravo 👏👏👏💯

  • @paulmorin2582
    @paulmorin2582 Před 2 lety +164

    Wow, you are a truly gifted instructor, Deb.... on the technical aspects, of course, but also in how you communicate with your students. Using the Socratic method is great, but it's especially great with kids, as sometimes they shock you in how well and articulately they describe the key points of what you're teaching them. It's also clear that Wilson is a willing and very capable student, which is awesome. I really enjoy watching your instructional videos and I learn something from every one of them.

  • @sarahdockery3665
    @sarahdockery3665 Před rokem +1

    My 8 yr old watched this & it made so much more sense to him! He loved that there was a kid demonstrating! Excellent video!

  • @crazyrock6896
    @crazyrock6896 Před rokem +4

    53 and just getting back into skiing. I grew bored in my twenties, didn't think I could get better. Just 'discovered' carving January '23, and I'm obsessed. Love your videos too Deb.. Thanks! PS, Wilson is heading for the Olympics.

  • @thomastheys6681
    @thomastheys6681 Před rokem +1

    Hey Coach! Log this comment in your diary. I cannot wait to see this kid in four more years. Hopefully the focus and the excitement will make it through the teen years and then watch out world cup.! Thomyt

  • @barrygoldkind99
    @barrygoldkind99 Před 2 lety +12

    His technical descriptions and knowledge are full cert level. Awesome.

  • @ziggymatuszewski2803
    @ziggymatuszewski2803 Před 2 lety +18

    and this is just 12 year old kid.... look at him skiing and how mature his understanding of skiing is, wow, this kid will make it to the podium.
    Thanks Deb, another great educational video !!!!
    Thank you :))

  • @BabTheBabs
    @BabTheBabs Před 3 měsíci

    That IS the technical detail I've been trying to understand all year so that I can apply it. Thank you, now I know what to do!!!

  • @joshcourt6744
    @joshcourt6744 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Came back to rewatch this and the first statement Wilson made hit me. I have always noticed my inside ski comes forward when im carving well, but struggled to reproduce the good carving by thinking inside ski forward. The real cue was shorten the inside leg! Ski comes forward because the knee comes forward, not because the hip does!

  • @patrickburns4607
    @patrickburns4607 Před 2 měsíci

    This is so cool to watch. You are training this kid to be elite and possibly be a champion someday.

  • @user-jt5fd6qg8m
    @user-jt5fd6qg8m Před 10 měsíci

    This is the only CZcams video that tells you how to make shorter carved turns.
    All the rest say to shorten you inside ski but dont tell you how to do it.
    Thanks Deb 😄
    ps I'm 85 still skiing and teaching

  • @patcassara7115
    @patcassara7115 Před 3 měsíci

    Love how simple Wilson explains things. Keep it simple.

  • @mbal4052
    @mbal4052 Před 2 lety +2

    Hi Debs, I’m just home from a weeks skiing and I had to come back to this video to thank you. While carving i drove that inside leg hard and it was amazing!

  • @CoreQ
    @CoreQ Před 2 lety +1

    This instructor is the best I have seen so far.

  • @lutze.schlange8693
    @lutze.schlange8693 Před 2 lety +6

    "Working the inside leg" translates into narrower stance: gradually shifting inside leg backward (and outside leg forward) while sensing pressure on your shin and (big) toe (in German we call this "achsenneutrale Fussstellung") -- Great stuff! 👌

  • @choski76
    @choski76 Před rokem +4

    These kids are blessed to have your coaching Deb! That fellow is well on his way. Beautiful carving

  • @ronaldvanengen1887
    @ronaldvanengen1887 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Wilson is phenomenal
    The next American Alberto Tomba!!
    ❤😊
    Great student
    Great instructor ❤

  • @hayleypbop6997
    @hayleypbop6997 Před 2 lety +6

    Lots of useful info on what shortening the inside leg will do for edge angle and these videos always make me smile; finally accepting Deb’s wisdom 😆

  • @chriskvikstad4980
    @chriskvikstad4980 Před 2 lety +24

    This is just fantastic. I love this video. As a child of the 1970s and 1980s, learning to ski and then race back then was so different from how it is today. It seemed like a lot of emphasis was placed on the use of weighting and maintaining pressure on the inside edge of the outside ski, and we were taught to really focus on that edge angle. The inside leg wasn't really addressed in the same way it is today with the new ski technologies. It really contributed to a lot of the A-frame stances you see with so many of us who grew up and learned to ski and race during the '70s and '80s. You can pick us out of a group in no time. It's a hard habit to break because it was so ingrained into all of us for so many years. One of my favorite videos is when Deb, Christin Cooper, and Cindy Nelson spend the day just tearing up the mountain together and having fun. Each are incredibly gifted and talented Olympians in their own right and the best ambassadors to the sport that you could ever imagine. At times you can see that A-frame make an appearance even with the best of the best. They are so graceful that it doesn't matter, though. The key is to have fun and enjoy the mountain.

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 2 lety +3

      Love this

    • @PhilbyFavourites
      @PhilbyFavourites Před 2 lety +2

      Oh god you’ve just summarised my 40 years of skiing, learning in Spain, France and Austria. Bend zee knees, pressure on the edge, a banana shape to hold the edge.
      At 63 I just get faster and faster and control disappears at the same rate……

    • @jmedaugh
      @jmedaugh Před 2 lety +1

      That was my experience also but modern skis are significantly different (and better) than those 203s we all skied on. These kids today :)

    • @PhilbyFavourites
      @PhilbyFavourites Před 2 lety

      @@jmedaugh Dynamic (or was it Dynastar?) 205’s with red Nordica Air Trident boots and a bright red C&A ski suit. Damn I looked good.
      Fast too… I just couldn’t turn!!

    • @jmedaugh
      @jmedaugh Před 2 lety +1

      @@PhilbyFavourites I was on Dynamic VR 17s myself back then, I wasn't nearly as cool as you though! We did that stemming and unweighting/pole plant move so we could float down the hill like Ingemar Stenmark. It did not work in my case :)

  • @Osnosis
    @Osnosis Před 2 lety +6

    Wilson! Wilson! I knew you when you were just a little volleyball, and now look at you. As for Deb, spot on as usual. Two things to note here: “don’t just park & ride” is a brilliant distinction on the one edge set versus the addition of the inside edge set (see Harald Harb), and I would say ‘leveling’ is also a pinch in the waist (outside edge side), which is why he’s feeling the core using this technique.

  • @stevedoe1630
    @stevedoe1630 Před 2 lety +5

    This exchange was fun to watch. Awesome example of coaching… the athlete knew all the content, and the coach knew how to steer the athlete. _(both in discussion and in motion)_

  • @MisterHughes
    @MisterHughes Před 2 lety +4

    Loving Wilson's awareness. Love seeing when kids get the feel of that scissor turn-inititiation and start working their legs independently with a solid level core. Kids understand this stuff much more readily than they get credit for, which is why I never talk down to kids I train.

  • @jean-pierremeloche4540
    @jean-pierremeloche4540 Před rokem +2

    Deb you're a blessing to this sport and have a very high IQ not only about skiing but also on how to teach it to others. Keep posting it's amazing and I'm for one am a better skier because of it. Thanks

  • @christieb.837
    @christieb.837 Před 4 měsíci

    This was fun to watch. Exceptional coaching, great kid!

  • @cdawg9149
    @cdawg9149 Před 2 lety +48

    Started using the inside ski the last ten years of my skiing. It allows you to take your ski game to a whole new level. Hard snow, powder, especially bumps / steeps, and hi speed turns. Not to mention the racing turn where it is mandatory. Love the fact that you train young skiers to do it. It also may eliminate a lot of injuries with much better control in all conditions and speed.

  • @roblipton9121
    @roblipton9121 Před 2 lety +25

    this is a really effective video in so many ways, the skiing, the instruction, the socratic interaction. Core strength and angulation are the goals here, and the idea of the "inside leg" is a good approach towards getting there. You are still treating the skis independently and dynamically, which is super important for all sorts of conditions, particular hard surfaces.

  • @mikemelina7395
    @mikemelina7395 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow! Debbie Armstrong is as good an instructor as she was a ski racer. Brava.

  • @PMAINTX1
    @PMAINTX1 Před 3 měsíci

    Wilson’s lucky to have a dedicated coach like Deb & he’s teachable. Great combination! ⛷️

  • @anthonygianacopoulos9918
    @anthonygianacopoulos9918 Před 2 lety +1

    With a ski acumen like that and a sophisticated understanding of the mechanics that he shows at his age I will not be surprised if we see this kid on the World Cup tour before he’s 18 y/o. My U14 daughter is watching this right now. Kids learn so much better from their peers than from their coaches or any other adults.

  • @anthonyb.9336
    @anthonyb.9336 Před 2 lety +14

    Watching the end of the video I am very impressed with Wilson's control of the transition from usinf his hip flexors to initiate the turn and then gently leaning into it and increasing the edge angle. His movement has great fluidity. Being able to execute that on every turn flawlessly shows how strong of a skier he is.

  • @simonwalmsley7670
    @simonwalmsley7670 Před 2 lety +9

    Awesome job Wilson, great insight, so helpful and well explained.

  • @kallen68
    @kallen68 Před rokem

    This is my favorite and best information yet. I can understand this delivery with both of them communicating about it. Thank you

  • @gowithgid3274
    @gowithgid3274 Před 2 lety +3

    In the "old days" we used to call it riding the uphill ski. We worked on moving our pressure to the uphill ski just before the turn. This was really necessary when you were skiing 203c skis. You could get hung on the downhill ski is you rode it too long. My guess is this young many will be a very good racer as he ages.

  • @dianeboross6978
    @dianeboross6978 Před 4 měsíci

    Watched and applied last year - big game changer. Revisiting today, great refresher. Thank you, Deb!

  • @otisregatoni617
    @otisregatoni617 Před 2 lety

    An open mind, black & white instruction ...... good combo. Young gentleman to watch.

  • @terrybarbour9760
    @terrybarbour9760 Před 2 lety +3

    This is awesome. This component of good skiing will add dynamics to everyone's skiing! Love how Deb's questions draw out beautifully simple explanations from Wilson. To feel and explain what a movement does to your skiing is the key to "owning" it! Absolutely love this video!

  • @tonyg3091
    @tonyg3091 Před 2 lety +2

    Deb, your vids are getting better and better.

  • @2beCuil
    @2beCuil Před 2 lety +6

    Wow that’s amazing to see. So nice that you teach all those kids and how great that Wilson knows exactly where he’s improving.

  • @tabphilip669
    @tabphilip669 Před 2 lety +1

    As someone with a 12 year old grand-daughter who races, this is gold dust…. Many thanks.

  • @cliang001
    @cliang001 Před 2 lety

    i can see the tears from your eyes when he answered your question so beautifully. Well done deb.

  • @thomasmedeiros5722
    @thomasmedeiros5722 Před 2 lety +3

    This is a nice drill we can all do to build our skills as we ski early season runs on low angle terrain or cross over to another lift. Best example of why ski racers make great free skiers. Lots of respect for a Olympic Gold Medal winner teaching kids and giving back to the sport.

  • @stephenweiss6001
    @stephenweiss6001 Před 2 lety +3

    Deb is such a great teacher and just an awesome person! I'm an old dog (51years old) with bad habits. Every video helps me see how much I'm getting wrong. Haha. One thing this video helps me to see I need to change is the involvement of my inside ski/knee. I mean, I grew up skiing with different technique (albeit poor), e.g., when you turned left, you sorta lifted your left (inside) ski and put all the pressure on your outside right ski. What I notice nowadays is that when, say, you're turning left, the tip of your left, inside ski is actually a bit in front of the tip of the outside right ski (if you were to look at them side by side when making a turn). I try so hard to get it right, but without actual lessons, it's really hard to be self-taught to the point you get everything right. These videos help. I've been doing much wrong. Just this one change regarding my inside ski is significantly helping me in turns and in dealing with my biggest problem: speed control on steeper runs. Anyways, thanks Deb! I seriously will send you a gift card for all I've learned from your videos if I learn how.

  • @RK-ig5hy
    @RK-ig5hy Před rokem

    Never thought I'd learn so much from a 12 year old!

  • @larrynjr
    @larrynjr Před rokem +1

    I did this today, possibly for the 1st time, it took some getting used to but this has changed my skiing for the better! tight smooth rail turns. no more chattering skis. Thanks very much!

  • @Cameron-ue7lu
    @Cameron-ue7lu Před 5 měsíci

    Awesome, great way to describe importance of the uphill ski in the hunt for the sharpest carve! Good luck with your career.

  • @kumbahutt1514
    @kumbahutt1514 Před 2 lety

    Bloody brilliant! Thanks, Wilson and instructor!

  • @MacPE6
    @MacPE6 Před 2 lety +16

    This is one of my goals for this ski season. I'm not working to race just carve harder and have more fun. For me driving the inside leg is a work in progress and as he put it "stacking" allows for increased edge angle creating more confidence while ripping down the hills. Thanks for sharing all that you do.

  • @darrenanderson4921
    @darrenanderson4921 Před rokem +1

    Way to go Wilson! Great skiing and great ability to express what you are learning and doing on your skis! Good luck this year!!

  • @christianmalm8838
    @christianmalm8838 Před 2 lety

    Exellent discussion, analysis and demostation. Thank you Deb, thank you Wilson

  • @jmswng77
    @jmswng77 Před rokem

    Love ur teaching style and enthusiasm, Deb!

  • @craigzolan1508
    @craigzolan1508 Před 2 lety +2

    Love the content and explanations from you (and Wilson). Keep up the great work!

  • @SeanMcDonald-xo2oc
    @SeanMcDonald-xo2oc Před 2 lety +1

    Great stuff Deb and Wilson! Nice skiing!

  • @alejandrogutierrez6923

    Kid knows his stuff! Love this channel and love this fundamentals reminder!

  • @Capo51
    @Capo51 Před 5 měsíci

    This young guy is skiing well, and what is even more astonishing is, how he analyses the things involved. 👍. Grear teaching too! And not bad shooting either✌️.

  • @chriscowan6630
    @chriscowan6630 Před 2 lety +1

    Nothing like another excellent ski tip from Deb days before you leave for a Lake Louise ski trip! Thanks for the content Deb….!

  • @ghassanhannouche5790
    @ghassanhannouche5790 Před 2 lety

    Thank you Deb, you’re amazing. This video changed my skiing forever. Wilson is awesome

  • @mailitedd185
    @mailitedd185 Před 2 lety +7

    Wilson, thank you so much for this video and for the one you did talking about driving the inside hip. Today was my first day back on snow and I spent my whole time thinking about and working on what you explained. It rocked my world!! Keep inspiring me buddy!!

  • @bartekkulach1114
    @bartekkulach1114 Před rokem

    Deb, I have listened a lot of trainers and read many books over the years when i was racing, but you are the best! The way you talk things is so different and so amazing, I use a lot from your movies while i’m coaching young racers in ski club. Thank’s!

  • @julierosenberg5020
    @julierosenberg5020 Před rokem

    Deb has become my Idol, Mentor! concise-specific info making learning and reinforcement easy!!

  • @Rocstoneau
    @Rocstoneau Před 2 lety

    I’m so impressed with Wilson’s skiing all thanks to you Deb. You’re a fantastic coach.

  • @kenanvanvranken7817
    @kenanvanvranken7817 Před 2 lety

    becoming a graceful and powerful skier! thanks, deb, the importance of the inside knee

  • @Harrylymon
    @Harrylymon Před 2 lety

    This is great! He is so responsive to the instruction and has such insightful answers.

  • @the4thwall728
    @the4thwall728 Před 2 lety

    Such a satisfying video. Great coaching.

  • @cameronwhite2312
    @cameronwhite2312 Před rokem

    Deb, I can't thank you enough for making these videos. I started skiing 3 years ago after snowboarding for 20+ years, and practicing the techniques that you go over has taken my skiing to the next level. It's April, and I'm already looking forward to next season to put these skills to work. Thank you!!!

  • @jameszeng2666
    @jameszeng2666 Před 2 lety +1

    I learned so much in this 7 min video I think tomorrow when I am finally back on snow, I will be much better ... Thanks Deb!

  • @nancyschindler4844
    @nancyschindler4844 Před 2 lety

    Deb, Thanks so much for allowing us to see you and your students share in the making of the magic of advanced skiing !

  • @jimmartinson4280
    @jimmartinson4280 Před 2 lety

    Great video. Looking forward to using the inside ski. Thanks.

  • @ardenpowers7730
    @ardenpowers7730 Před 2 lety +1

    Great to see some one at this age able to understand and put everything together with confidence !
    I know a lot of skiers much older than Wilson that don't get it !!

  • @nickv3085
    @nickv3085 Před 2 lety

    I learn from every video like this deb, thanks a lot for sharing.

  • @ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524

    This really clicked for me when I thought about it more like a power turn in hockey. After that you can carve one footed on the outside edge of the inside ski. Such a blast!! Wilson's a great teacher!!!

  • @highc6866
    @highc6866 Před 2 lety

    Deb, I started watching your videos a few days ago because I’m going to keystone at the end of February. I haven’t skiied in 3 years. 😳 Your videos are the best I’ve found at getting me ready. Thanks.

  • @live4powderhound834
    @live4powderhound834 Před 2 lety

    Love seeing all these kids pushing themselves! One of the best Deb videos!! Not Dirty!!

  • @pabllo2004
    @pabllo2004 Před 2 lety

    I can watch good carving turns all day long , love it

  • @tclay2663
    @tclay2663 Před 2 lety

    Awesome teacher and awesome student! Thank you for sharing.

  • @christiaanwesterkamp1421

    This is such a great video! I’m going to practice this technique on the slopes this weekend!!

  • @hristobrachko6824
    @hristobrachko6824 Před rokem

    One of the best videos and best advice! Thank you!

  • @showze21
    @showze21 Před 2 lety +2

    wilson has a great turn for a u 14. i do a modified telemark turn on alpine skis sometimes to vary the turn radius. so, instead of edging the inside ski at the ball all the time, like a proper ski racer turn, sometimes i shift the edging of the inside ski back towards the tail, and use that as the pivot point for the rotation in the turn. at the same time i push the out side ski out a bit into wedge, and i can do what ever turn radius i want around the inside ski pivot. i call it a "surfer turn" because it feels sort of surfy. its not as fast nor good on ice as a proper ski racer turn, but its fun

  • @cinupinu
    @cinupinu Před rokem

    This is fantastic. Super clear. Thank you!

  • @jamesz5816
    @jamesz5816 Před 2 lety

    This is really helping!! Thanks Deb, thanks Wilson.

  • @peters6119
    @peters6119 Před 2 lety

    Intelligent athlete. He understands the technical aspect of his sport really well for such a young athlete. He explains it as well as any coach.

  • @emptysea1137
    @emptysea1137 Před 2 lety

    Powerful skier
    Gonna try and emphasize this the next time I get out . Looks v expert

  • @michelesmith4407
    @michelesmith4407 Před 2 lety

    I learn so much from your videos. Thank you. I’m going to Steamboat tomorrow and just learned you teach there!

  • @DougSandburg
    @DougSandburg Před 2 lety

    I love watching this kid ski! Mesmerizing.

  • @davidlaronde2909
    @davidlaronde2909 Před 2 lety

    Really nice job Wilson.

  • @msg36093
    @msg36093 Před 2 lety

    Subscribed. Thanks, Deb! Incredible tips!

  • @L0VSKY
    @L0VSKY Před 2 lety

    Great skiing! And great explaining. Thanks!

  • @justinrfogarty780
    @justinrfogarty780 Před 2 lety

    Dear Deb and Wilson. Super well done. It is interesting how this move shortens the inside leg and allows inclination by the active use of the inside leg and knee and leg as opposed to the much talked about and misunderstood softening and flopping or toppling espoused by the Aussies and New Zealanders .The real racers I am watching here right now where I am in Europe do not fall inside or flop or topple they use the inside leg.with a deliberate move. This is so good. There is so much misinformation out there and misunderstanding. Thanks for helping with clarity.

  • @zipperboy2008
    @zipperboy2008 Před 2 lety +1

    Beautiful skiing!

  • @tannerdillingham1798
    @tannerdillingham1798 Před 2 lety

    Definitely a really good technique, my race coach use to tell us to carve with 70% outside pressure and 30% inside, this would give us enough juice to push the inside leg forward and stay on top of the gate. I really liked the way Wilson explained this, he’s a great role model.

  • @TheRausing1
    @TheRausing1 Před rokem

    This is super inspiring, and man does that kid ski good! I’m 26, been skiing my whole life and I don’t ski as nice as him. I wish I had you as a coach lol !

  • @dmourati
    @dmourati Před 2 lety

    Really nice skiing and conversation.

  • @psmith6166
    @psmith6166 Před 2 lety +4

    I love the explanations and examples in this video. I also wonder why every slope always has people sitting in the middle of it. I get that you may need a break, I'm old enough I often do too, just move to the side.

  • @robp.8807
    @robp.8807 Před 2 lety +1

    This is great, easy to watch, hard to do. but will practice this tomorrow