My favorite line "If you've learned anything in Theory 1, it's that musicians are lazy and hate writing things out and will do whatever they can to try to shorthand it." LOL, this has BLESSED ME!
Interesting to revisit this after 30 + years out of school. I struggled with this then, and still can't say I completely understand now. It's like algebra for music majors.
Decided to revisit this and brush up after having been 20 years removed from my 18th cent. counterpoint class. Clear, concise and much appreciated. Thanks for helping to jog my memory.
thanks my ap music theory exam is tomorrow and my teacher quit halfway thru the year so im attempting to learn half the course in one night this was very helpful
The key thing to getting figured bass is the shorthand *of* the shorthand angle. I do wonder though, while this system covers the inversions of linear/four-way close voicings, does it have anything for non-linear voicings ... drop-2's, drop-3's, drop 2/4, etc...? I'm a relative tourist with this particular system. Does it cover those types of voicings? Or does they fall more under the improv part of continuo playing?
Sir, Thank you very much for you answer. I will definitely look up this resource. As I understand it is the textbook you use with your college students.
The vii is 7, the o (suppose to be in the air like this *) means diminished (1 b3 b5) and he put a 6 because it's got a 6 in the figures, not because it's an actual 6 chord (like C6 CEGA)
I believe you made a mistake. In the first example on that F#, you say that the F# is the root, when the 6 underneath says it's an inversion, thus making the F# the 3rd of the chord, not the root.
I am trying to understand figured bass but something is eluding me. I understanding the whole rational of the no number, accidentals with or without number, etc. But my brain is confused when I try to understand how to tell what position the bass note is in the chord. I hear you say if the bass note is the third or fifth of the chord. I am lost there.
Great video! I hope that you gave someone permission to use your material on skillshare, because there's definitely an instructor using this video on there...
Thanks! I didn't, but it is here for free on CZcams, and folks are certainly free to link to it. If you are paying someone else for this material, I hope you're getting something else out of that bargain...
The numbers explain the intervals above the bass-ie where the other notes in the chord are located- how many half steps above the bass, sort of summation notation.
I can't reconcile the D sharp in the B seventh chord that you mentioned. Wouldn't D sharp be the third of the chord? You said that when there is. Number with the accodental, the accidental is applied to that number above the baseline. If this is so as you say, shouldn't the sharp be on the A above the bass note of B? Confused.
Hi - the accidental is below the number, doing its own thing (implying the third). If the accidental were right next to the 7, it would indeed apply to the A. Thanks!
Chord 2 on the F# - you say 7th diminished 6th chord. So I get that 7th degree (of E minor) is d# because of the chromatic alteration in the figured bass - #6 (D gets raised to D#) but you refer to the Roman numeral nonemclature when you call it 7th chord right? 'vii diminished 6th chord. But if the notes are d# F# and A what does the dimished 6th refer to? D# - A is a diminished 5th. Can you clarify please thanks?
I think I've got it. 6 in the Roman symbol 'vii dimished 6th chord' 3:58 refers to 1st inversion? I was expecting a letter b to indicate 1st inversion as you're using roman numerals. I would have preferred it if you had said vii dimished chord in a first inversion - indicated by a 6. Or the letter b for first inversion which is what I'm used to. Obviously I get the figured bass 6 and 6 4 conventions.
Hi Tony! I'm not sure where you saw this notation - it is a little bit unusual. Usually if 5 is written, 3 is as well! I would expect it means a root position triad, but I suppose there is a small chance that the notation would refer to an open fifth (no third).
Thank you. I'm looking at the British Grade 8 ABRSM theory paper 2015. A 5 occurs on its own six times. For example, on one bar there's a 6/5 then a 5 on its own, then a 6
Ok! The 5 is replacing the 6 from earlier in the bar; they do not re-write the implied 3 from 6/5/3, which sort of "carries over." So here, the 5 is indeed indicating a root position triad.
I do not understand how “6” indicated a first inversion triad. A first inversion triad has a 3rd and a 5th above the bass note. Where does the 6 come from?????? If I’m playing c major triad first inversion, a sixth above the root is A, which is not one of the notes in the chord at all????????
Hi! The numbers refer to interval above the bass note, not the root. For your example of C major, if E is in the bass, then C is a 6th above. Hope this helps!
Hate it how this guys says that musicians are lazy and will avoid writing it out when it's the COMPOSERS who write the music.... -_- We musicians are the ones who do the work of deciphering it.
My favorite line "If you've learned anything in Theory 1, it's that musicians are lazy and hate writing things out and will do whatever they can to try to shorthand it." LOL, this has BLESSED ME!
Not musicians, composers! They're the ones who write the music.
You have explained this so much better than my theory teacher. Thanks much, I don't feel like crying anymore.
mission accomplished!
Interesting to revisit this after 30 + years out of school. I struggled with this then, and still can't say I completely understand now. It's like algebra for music majors.
Excellent sir. I am a drummer in theory 3 and still struggle time to time with figured bass notation. This was very helpful.
Decided to revisit this and brush up after having been 20 years removed from my 18th cent. counterpoint class. Clear, concise and much appreciated. Thanks for helping to jog my memory.
Welcome back!
thanks my ap music theory exam is tomorrow and my teacher quit halfway thru the year so im attempting to learn half the course in one night this was very helpful
This was so helpful! You know it’s a good video if you learn alot within a short time period.
Thank you! You made things way more clear than my 1 hr theory class. It’s still so confusing
Really helpful for preparing for my grade 8 theory thank you!
It has been helpful someone but, i needed more examples to help me to create a mental logic from it. Thanks. I would love more for my students.
Excellent video sir.
Thanks!! This is really helpful in this corona times
thanks. stay safe!
I bought a Udemy course on music theory and he used your video for one of the lessons. He’s making money off of it.. just thought you should know
Yeah thats right. Im from that course and just wanna come here to thank you, Mr Farrel
Fantastic lesson. Thank you.
This was really useful, thanks! :D
lol I had to watch this 5 times to get it because my brain cells are really stupid;-;
And thank you very much for this
5th time's a charm. You're welcome!
Relatable
Useful, thanks! Do you have a similar video when it starts adding 9ths, 11ths, and 13ths?
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@8:38 gotta remember this- NOTE TO SELF.
The key thing to getting figured bass is the shorthand *of* the shorthand angle. I do wonder though, while this system covers the inversions of linear/four-way close voicings, does it have anything for non-linear voicings ... drop-2's, drop-3's, drop 2/4, etc...? I'm a relative tourist with this particular system. Does it cover those types of voicings? Or does they fall more under the improv part of continuo playing?
Solid and clearly presented content. Excellent work.
What is the textbook you refer to in some videos?
Hi! Tonal Harmony, Kostka & Payne is the text I refer to in these videos.
Sir, Thank you very much for you answer. I will definitely look up this resource. As I understand it is the textbook you use with your college students.
How is F# bass note with #6 notation a viio6? (D# leading tone) in the key of em?
The vii is 7, the o (suppose to be in the air like this *) means diminished (1 b3 b5) and he put a 6 because it's got a 6 in the figures, not because it's an actual 6 chord (like C6 CEGA)
3:30 - you have an f# as the root (shoud be "as the bass"), then it's some sort of D - chord
I believe you made a mistake. In the first example on that F#, you say that the F# is the root, when the 6 underneath says it's an inversion, thus making the F# the 3rd of the chord, not the root.
I got confused as well.
@@JayJay-ty2rf yeah. He needs to fix it so nobody else will be confused.
Merci.
I am trying to understand figured bass but something is eluding me. I understanding the whole rational of the no number, accidentals with or without number, etc. But my brain is confused when I try to understand how to tell what position the bass note is in the chord. I hear you say if the bass note is the third or fifth of the chord. I am lost there.
Great video! I hope that you gave someone permission to use your material on skillshare, because there's definitely an instructor using this video on there...
Thanks! I didn't, but it is here for free on CZcams, and folks are certainly free to link to it. If you are paying someone else for this material, I hope you're getting something else out of that bargain...
cool!
I learned that 2 was third inversion 7th chord, instead of 4/2 (8:56). What does the 4 in 4/2 refer to?
Hi! Great question. I go into details on all the numbers in this video: czcams.com/video/598vbeG_pk8/video.html
The numbers explain the intervals above the bass-ie where the other notes in the chord are located- how many half steps above the bass, sort of summation notation.
I can't reconcile the D sharp in the B seventh chord that you mentioned. Wouldn't D sharp be the third of the chord? You said that when there is. Number with the accodental, the accidental is applied to that number above the baseline. If this is so as you say, shouldn't the sharp be on the A above the bass note of B? Confused.
Hi - the accidental is below the number, doing its own thing (implying the third). If the accidental were right next to the 7, it would indeed apply to the A. Thanks!
Chord 2 on the F# - you say 7th diminished 6th chord. So I get that 7th degree (of E minor) is d# because of the chromatic alteration in the figured bass - #6 (D gets raised to D#) but you refer to the Roman numeral nonemclature when you call it 7th chord right? 'vii diminished 6th chord. But if the notes are d# F# and A what does the dimished 6th refer to? D# - A is a diminished 5th. Can you clarify please thanks?
I think I've got it. 6 in the Roman symbol 'vii dimished 6th chord' 3:58 refers to 1st inversion? I was expecting a letter b to indicate 1st inversion as you're using roman numerals. I would have preferred it if you had said vii dimished chord in a first inversion - indicated by a 6. Or the letter b for first inversion which is what I'm used to. Obviously I get the figured bass 6 and 6 4 conventions.
Please could you say what a 5 on its own means. Is it another way of indicating root position?
Hi Tony! I'm not sure where you saw this notation - it is a little bit unusual. Usually if 5 is written, 3 is as well! I would expect it means a root position triad, but I suppose there is a small chance that the notation would refer to an open fifth (no third).
Thank you. I'm looking at the British Grade 8 ABRSM theory paper 2015. A 5 occurs on its own six times. For example, on one bar there's a 6/5 then a 5 on its own, then a 6
Ok! The 5 is replacing the 6 from earlier in the bar; they do not re-write the implied 3 from 6/5/3, which sort of "carries over." So here, the 5 is indeed indicating a root position triad.
Thank you! I understand it now.
I’m just not completely understanding the bass. Is the bass going to be the root or the third?🤔
Hi! The bass can play any chord member. The figures clue you in to which it will be.
why is the 5th note (F#) assumed for the #7 chord but not for the others with the 6 symbol?
No real reason for this; just different abbreviations. Some chords have a 5th above the bass note; some don't.
I do not understand how “6” indicated a first inversion triad. A first inversion triad has a 3rd and a 5th above the bass note. Where does the 6 come from?????? If I’m playing c major triad first inversion, a sixth above the root is A, which is not one of the notes in the chord at all????????
Hi! The numbers refer to interval above the bass note, not the root. For your example of C major, if E is in the bass, then C is a 6th above. Hope this helps!
Shouldn't the fourth chord be an "ii" and not an "iv" since A is the second degree in G major?
Hi! This music is in e minor, not G major.
For the 7th chord in root position, why is the D sharpened and not the A, seeing the A is the 7th above the root B?
Bc the sharp sign wasn't next to the 7 but under it without a number next to it
Sir you teach online students ?
I want to learn ..sir
Cosco and Paine textbook, what school?
Tonal Harmony textbook
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Hate it how this guys says that musicians are lazy and will avoid writing it out when it's the COMPOSERS who write the music.... -_- We musicians are the ones who do the work of deciphering it.
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