Unsatisfyingly sweet: Josquin's Mille Regretz
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- Score analysis #4 - Mille Regretz / Josquin des Prez
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For the full performance by Profeti della Quinta: • Josquin des Prez / Mil...
For Emma-Lisa Roux’s performance: • Josquin - Mille Regret...
Excerpt from Morales's Mass: • Cantoría - Kyrie I, Mi...
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Created by Elam Rotem, September 2021.
Performance: Profeti della Quinta - Giovanna Baviera, Doron Schleifer, Jacob Lawrence & Elam Rotem.
Audio: Karel Valter.
Lute examples: Ryosuke Sakamoto.
Excerpt from Morales's Mass: Cantoría (dir. Jorge Losana)
Special thanks to Iason Marmaras, Emma-Lisa Roux and Anne Smith.
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Not a single regret for starting my day with this video. Ironic how something so sad can lift the spirits...
My Norton Anthology started rocking the bookshelf with joy when it heard this classic.
OMG throwback Tuesday
"Unsatisfyingly sweet" might be the best description for this piece, although I never would have come up with these words myself. Beautiful in a hurtful way.
I'm a french physio, playing lute and harpsichord in a little orchestra since 2001
I would like to thank you for all your work, i never had the chance to understand the complexity of what i was playing in all those years.
Regardless of who wrote this amazingly enduring work of art, it has touched the heart of centuries of listeners. If Josquin didn't write this, it's a shame never to know what else this composer might have written.
A very nice thought. What i love about renaissance is the value the work itself has, not being required listeners consume to find itself completed, thus being just as beautiful at the present, without needing time for it's greatness to be acknowledged. There is no genius in traditional renaissance, and as the composers share an unimaginative respect for the art, they place the art before themselves; the composer of this work is a true master, and at least we can understand he knew without doubt that he accomplished exactly his purpose and goal
Such a beautiful video! Well done Elam and the Early Music Sources team!
Collab?
@@hannahjohnson4582 That would be fantastic, although a mere comment from another musicians isn't an indication of anything beside what's in the comment.
I see you also appreciate Brosquin.
I didn't know Final Fantasy characters have CZcams channels
@@hannahjohnson4582 please
Fantastic performance!!! I really love those diminutions - they sound great _and_ they go well with the points about ficta!
Yes 💓 I'm in love with y'all singing 💘 and I sure am definitely not alone..... 💗
Beautiful video, Elam! I admire not only your information but the talent of the singers as well. Emma-Lisa's solo performance is stunning.
You reached new heights with this video! I would love to watch your take on 1) Gesualdo's final books and 2} the compositional methods of Tudor composers such as Fayrfax and Ludford. This channel is awesome ! I also haven't heard Mille Regretz so beautifully sung before! Thanks
Ah, yes. No better treat for the middle of a week of hard work than an EMS upload. Thank you for the wonderful work, as per usual, Elam & co.
I thought your sentence would end like "no better treat for the middle of a week of hard work than a sweet heartbreak" 😂💔
Given your username, I take it you have seen the Lamento dello Wookiee? czcams.com/video/bXEAwV4UdY8/video.html
Thank you! As ever, the singing is exquisite-never an overtone or vowel formant out of place! This was an aural remedy for the headache I woke up with.
I've sung the Morales as Cantus 2 with De Profundis. It's wonderful. I love the darkness, power and fervour that McCreesh and the Gabrielis bring to it in their performance.
Why are the sad pieces always the most beautiful? Thank you for this great episode! It is a shame that Nymphes des Bois is too long for this kind of video, that is even more bittersweet.
But maybe this could be an intetrsting topic on its own, the chain of commemorative motets: Ockegem's "Mort tu as navré" on the death of Binchois, Josquins "Nymphes" on Ockeghem, Richafort's Requiem on Josquin... All so beautiful compositions...
❤️ I cannot thank you enough for this video and for your work as a whole. As long as there are videos with this beauty, accuracy and generosity, the internet will be a marvelous invention. And thank you for bringing Josquin closer to many - he really is one of the most irresistible and ingenious composers of all time
One of my faves to play on guitar. Very moody. I can always visualize a process of heart break, waking up the next day and realizing it is not a bad dream and finally accepting the cold reality of situation and pushing forward with life with a heavy heart. No wonder the emperor liked it.
Oh my gosh! I was just learning about the piece in my music history class today and you released this at the same. I love this channel.
Well, Elam, besides all the other complimentary things commenters have said about this video --
-- I have never before heard "Mille regretz" sung as beautifully as it is here. Wow.
(And it's good to hear Jacob and you casually put into practice the embellishment principles you've discussed in other videos.)
I don't think the final cadence is unsatisfying, it couldn't be anything else. Gorgeous.
Thank you Josquin! Thank you Early Music Sources! Bello!
Gosh, I can't remember how long it has been since I sang this last. Thanks for the deep dive into it!
Thanks for making these!
Amazing, as always!
Thank you so much for posting these videos.
Thank You Very Much 😃👍👍👍👍👍 despite i'm not musician and not in medieval music, you made me enjoy A LOT this masterpiece AND your clear explanations. I subscribed to your excellent channel because you have many other very well done and interesting videos.
Many Many Thanks for your efforts and instructive vids. 👍👍👍😊👍👍👍
Very nice to have the whole performance backed up by the presentation of the score below.
Thank you sooo much
Thanks guys! You are doing a great job 🙏🏻
What a lovely episode!! Thx so much, Elam. It´s delightful to watch your videos *
Beautiful, thank you so much
As usual, the content of your channel is both educational and entertaining. Thanks for your commitment.
Fantastic music and performances. Great episode. Thank you for everything.
Thank you so much for this. It brings back memories...
Fantastic video!
Now I love it more. Thank you!
muchas gracias, elam!
That's such a wonderful interpretation, thank you for your work
Thank you so much
Wonderful! Thank you
Great video and great performance of this Renaissance gem!! Thank you very much❗
Thank you 🙏
Fantastic work folks - thank your for these wonderful videos.
Thank you for this. You always read about this song in footnotes, it's nice to see it fully explained.
As always, the content and editing of the video is excellent. Thank you for your effort and for letting me continue learning with your knowledge.
A wonderful piece of music...thank you so much
This video is beautiful thank you sincerely.
You're videos are too good, man! Great explanations and performances.
Excellent video, I hope you make more Josquin videos in the future!
Excellent. Thank you for this wonderful video.
Thank you Elam and your team for bringing us such a beautiful analyse and charming chanson. Be blessed!
Loving this song from the first time I listened (so many years ago). Thanks for this super gorgeous show.
Great video, thank you again! And nice singing, too!
Such a beautiful episode, may this episode never be one of my thousand regrets!
Thank you. This was already one of my favourite chansons. This has further increased my appreciation.
Grazie mille! Amazing video, editing, explanation, performance... Wow!!
Many thanks for you beautiful video.
The four part one by Susato is a Pavan from his book of dances. It has all the parts move together and breaks the song into three equal sized sections that repeat, but still has most of the same affect as the song.
Beautiful and fascinating
we all love you.. such a great channel.... always scientific approach... thanks for being here
Oh, Elam! What a fantastic video! a peace of art in itself, what a way to deliver knowledge!
Thank you (and everyone involved) so much!
How utterly enjoyable. Thank you for such a thoughtful exposition and wonderful visual guides. I absolutely enjoyed every minute -- thank you!
Simply wonderful.
Wow that's a really beautiful piece.
What a wonderful video ! Greatly explained, perfectly documented, and to top it off your interpretation is one of the best I've ever heard ! Congrats and greetings from France !
Wonderful Performance!
Both informative, almost encyclopedic, and beautiful, artistic episode. Thank you very much.
Thank you for this video. I have loved Mille Regretz since I first heard it some 20 years ago. On the page it looks quite insubstantial but I suppose it was written at a time people didn't expect that great music was necessarily long and complicated. Thanks for some new insights into the song and for the lovely singing.
WE WERE SHOWN THIS PIECE IN MUSIC HISTORY LAST YEAR AND I LOVE IT SO MUCH THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!
Wonderful presentation, at every level. Bravo.
Thank you for this - I've known the Josquin chanson since my student days, but not the lute arrangements- and the Morales parody mass is exquisite!
What a superb analysis and appreciation of the des Prez. I was especially pleased that you began by considering the poetic text. Wonderful from start to end--both scholarly and engaging.
a huge merci from France, this piece haunts me for years now...I didn't know about Morales's Mass
Thank you for this video Elam! This piece brings me to tears...and the recording Profeti della Quinta with Giovanna is heavenly beautiful...
Eloquent, elegant, enlightening and sweetly satisfying presentation of this lovely song, Elam. Mille Mercis.
I really love this video
Just stunningly beautiful!❤
Thank you for yet another wonderful episode! This is such a magical piece and your performance is just outstanding!
Wonderful, Eilam! I like sharing these videos with my students. Keep up the good work! Uri
fantastico, grazie!
Thank you so much! What a wonderful, entertaining contribution! Not to forget your outstanding, deeply touching performance of this beautiful piece of music, bravo! 🙏
Que analisis tan bueno, me encanta poder saber con este detalle sobre una pieza tan bella y emotiva
What music! Tugs at your heartstrings and lachrymal glands...splendidly performed. Nice to have you back!
Merveilleux ! Comment vous remercier....
Thank you EMS for analyze one of my favorite pieces ever. I think I first sang it 30 years ago and I fell in love with early music thanks to this piece and the Cancionero de Uppsala.
so schön gesungen ♥️
I'm glad this video got recommended. I learned a lot
You always inspire me so much. You are the reason I started singing. Millez regrets has bin my favourite song since I was 3.5 years old!!!!!!!!
Grazie, Elam. Merci, Josquin.
Gasp!! ♥️ Thank you!!! 🥲
I wish I could ‘like’ this video more than once. Terrific stuff, I had the pleasure of singing this with David Allison yesterday in Edinburgh, and now I’ve found your video! Absolute pleasure 😍
Really great video! I've been using this chanson as example in my music analysis classes for years, and the students often get shocked for its beauty and sadness... great insight and truly beautiful performances, congratulations.
סרטון מדהים 🤟🤟🤟❤️
Very interesting! Before now I was only familiar with Susato's version. Thank you for presenting this.
Tremendo video
thank you
Bravi as always
Wonderful video, and beautiful rendition of the piece!. My apologies if this has already been addressed in one of the other 238 comments here, but it's worth noting that, with regard to the musica ficta discussion that starts about 5:20, in Narvaez's 1538 transcription of this piece for vihuela, he does raise both pre-cadential notes the first time through (G# and F#). The second time through, he doesn't raise the first note (G) but does raise the second (F#). This is perhaps one generation later than Josquin's original version, but it does shed light on musica ficta practices, at least in Spain soon after Joquin's time. Treating these two phrases differently makes sense, given their different harmonic goals (though I love it without the changes as well). I also love the improvisations within the lines by the singers. Well done!
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That’s why this is my favorite CZcams channel.
Grazie!