Hammer Drill vs Rotary Hammer Drill PART 2 | What's the difference?
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
- Hammer Drill vs Rotary Hammer Drill
This is the second part of my Drill vs Hammer Drill vs Impact Driver vs Rotary Hammer Drill comparison.
Part 1: • Drill vs Hammer Drill ...
Tools used in this vid:
Makita Hammer Drill Kit: amzn.to/2IrHqgn
Makita 36v Rotary Hammer Super Kit: amzn.to/2KyxILW
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The advantage is greatest in rough concrete with large chunks of aggregate. When a normal drill hits a stone it can't break through it gets stuck whereas an SDS can go right through no matter if it hits a chunk of rock.
This is a fantastic demonstration of how hammer drills and rotary hammer drills work. Thanks for sharing.
There is an advantage to using a simple hammer drill to an electro pneumatic (SDS) one in some scenarios. Let's say you're drilling through ceramic tiles (e.g. a bathroom wall). Ideally you would drill through the ceramic part using only a rotary action and a dedicated ceramic bit with carbide or diamond crown bit. Then you switch to hammer drilling when reaching concrete. No matter how careful you are, because the SDS bit wobbles around, you have a great chance of denting the glaze around the hole. I have a Makita SDS drill and I know what I'm talking about, it is just too powerful for such a task. So a regular hammer drill with a regular chuck and limited motion is better for such situations.
Great video!
Just remember to never push hard or put much weight behind a hammer drill, its the movement that does the work, all you need to do is to add that slight force to activate the hammer function
When it's not drilling should I keep not pushing hard?
@@JesseAdamson I think he meant that the drill shouldn't be "bottomed out" throughout the entire drilling, apply as necessary.
@@JesseAdamson Hi Jesse, lots of bad information in these comments. Hammer drills and rotary hammer drills use different technologies to accomplish the same goal. If you are using a hammer drill, yes you need to apply pressure when drilling masonary, (though not excessively). If you are using a rotary hammer drill applying too much pressure can actually slow the drilling process down. With a rotary hammer drill, let the weight of the tool, plus a small amount of pressure do the work. Also, if you use a rotary hammer, you need to lubricate the end of the drill bit shank that fits into the chuck with grease. This is not the case with a hammer drill.
Learned that very quickly when pushing too hard on a 40cm or so drill. Broke C L E A N off
ONLY NOW I KNOW, AFTER COUNTLESS YEARS IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR SUCH REVIEW....TQ SO MUCH :)
My pleasure 😊
Looks to be working fine for just a few holes around the house
Thank you, very informative
Glad it was helpful!
Good video of combi-drillhammer vs a rotaty SDS drillhammer, thx.
Perfect with "anti-vibration damper'
I've got the 481zk. It drills well
That cliffhanger got me to this video
Fantastic Video and great explanation.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks mate, very much appreciated. Rotary drill is the go for me as a result of your vid.
do the flip flops come with charger n case or are they skin only, plus will my old battery fit them
They are ISJ's and they come as a skin, or the kit with socks. They don't require batteries, they use foot power.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL thankyou for your kind reply, i shall add the kit to my amazon basket when i next go on the interweb
fljip fljöp
The flip flop comments always get me. I never go without my boots so it's weird seeing human feet
Thanks
Can you do a comparison video with the sub compact brushless hammer drill (xph11)?
Was STS plus a copy of the original Hilti? cause the very first Rotary Hummer drill i used was a Hilti TE17 back in the 70s n I was totally shocked at how Amazing it was next to he drills we where using them days, it was also a French drill called Spit very similar to STS but only one grove was holding instead of the usual 2 on the Bosch STS system n still for me by far the best rotary hammer drill bits are the Hilti ones they go for ever good video brings back memories for old boys like me good old days lol cheers
Is there a difference in the quality of the hole ? Does one drill a smoother hole over the other ?
we all know that a sds is better than a combi drill but that Makita combi you have there is the highest torque drill they do, and if you only want to put a few shelves up or fix a toilet pan to a concrete floor etc the combi drill works just fine that's what its made to do small diameter holes 5 6 7 mm sds for your more rugged work
I just installed a 2m tall fence today. 16 holes with 14mm bit/ 20cm deep on car park concrete. Only took 45 min to do the job and half a 6ah battery on my DHP 481. Not weak at all
Alot of people dont know this but on those Makita hammer drills, when you tighten the chuck on the bit you can take it back 1 single click and it will lock the chuck so the bits will never fall out.
Yep...100% right
Also, DeWalt drills do it as well
Thanks man
You're welcome!
Thanks for the vid. Shout out to the flip flops.
South African here - great video as usual ! From a practical perspective, so-called 'vibracrete' walls are very popular around the country, to put around your residential property - these things are well nigh impossible to drill into, even with the hammer drill - you'll definitely going to need that bad baby (even if it isn't cordless or brushless) - we need to put spikes on top of it for anti-home invasion security - I concur though - first make sure you get the best drill bits ! I'd say if you're going to shell out money, whichever brand, get a good cordless & brushless impact driver (good enough for normal drilling jobs as well, and these days useful for lug nuts and other socket functions too, in addition to turning screws), and use the big one for bigger drilling tasks - then you're covered all your bases. Note : Milwaukee, Ryobi, AEG & Ridgid are all owned by the same HK company. DeWalt is simply a rebranded version of what used to be Black & Decker, and in fact is owned by B & D.
IMHO get a Makita if you can afford it - if not, get a Ryobi (I have both, neither have let me down). Back in the day I owned Black & Decker & Bosch, both had failed on me, so for me that rules out DeWalt and Bosch.
So rotary hummer , the distance bit travel all same right ? Because its depend on the bit it self
いい比較👍
its a no context SDS for the win All day every day
Do the sds plus have small bits like a 3/16? I need the extra power and speed to drill several holes for certain jobs..
Yes
I got this hammer drill just 2 days and drilled a few 8mm holes with it in concrete and the damn thing wont come off hammer mode, the ring is just stuck there. I think im just very unlucky and going to return it ofcourse. Has anyone experienced something like this with any makita hammerdrill?
Yes, I Have Drilling Into 30 Year Old Hard Concrete To Set Bolts To Hold A New Commode, I Now Know From Watching these CZcams Videos That I Was Using Way Too Much Down Force, {I Would Put About 1/2 of My Weight On Them), and Just Wearing My Bits Out Rather Than Just Allowing The Drill To Do The Work. It Took Me a Long, Long Time, Over Years Of Using It To Finally Get It To Come Out Of Hammer Mode.
How about 18-Volt LXT Lithium-Ion Brushless Cordless Hybrid 4-Function Impact Hammer Driver Drill?
Spin you right round baby right round
It feels like I've wasted my money on a bosch cordless hammer drill ...
Thanks but tell us internal mechanical difference between Hammer Drill and Rotary Hammer drill
I'm new to all these electrical tools. Can I use or attach SDS drill bit straight away to a cylindrical chuck where I normally used a cylindrical drill bit?
Nope
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Do we have any adapter from a cylindrical chuck to sds plus chuck?
Yes. But you won't get the back and forth hammer function.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL That means it is not suitable for chiselling job as well right?
To chisel you have to have a tool that you can turn the rotation off and just have the impacts.
Can you use the gtx impact driver also for concrete holes here and there arround the house? Or need a hammer drill gtx line version? Asking as i have the impact driver recently.
Impact drivers do not Impact in a forward direction like hammer drills do so are no good at drilling concrete. Also most concrete drills will not fit in an impact driver.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL oh thank you for responding, thats clear :)
I think the best combination is get
1 rotary drill
1 driver drill
hey I have that twin batt but im gutted its not the American variant. now there is bigger again.
Why do you think the North American one is better?
conmanumber1 is the american one ‘40 volt’?
They are identical, its just the no load voltage instead of the under load voltage
4:51 I got the same hammer hehe
the 8th drill hole was drilled counterrclock wise (in reverce monion) backwords is it even fair comparisn on the hammer drill ?
HaHa. Different rotational speeds and camera shutter speeds make things look like they are going the wrong way. Haven't you ever seen it with car wheels? Also if you look at the drill the forward drive button is in and at the end of the hole you see the drill spinning in the "correct" direction.
HaHa. It is a trick of the camera. That drill has a different speed which in conjunction with the camera shutter speed makes it look like the drill is going the wrong direction. If you look at the end of the hole drilling you will see that it is going the correct way. Also you can see the forward direction button is pushed in.
i wonder how a rotary hammer drill compares to a corded drill.
The main difference between rotary hammers are imapct it delivers, rpm and bpm
But how to choose ? (What is ok and what isnt enough?)
Looks like the hammer drill works fine on concrete
wasn't the BOSCH in reverse
So what about the main question????!?!?!!!! Does the different drills cause a difference in the hole diameter being bored out to where the anchor won’t grab as proper making for a weaker anchor
Helpful, but no one on youtube identifies the tools for particular jobs. I bet nearly everyone that visits these sites wants a tools for a particular job, e.g. putting up shelves, general regular maintenance around an apartment, renovating bathrooms or kitchens, adding a deck or garage. Drilling holes and screws at a given speed per watt or torque on hands is good to know, but PLEASE for future, talk about usefulness for a given need and expectation of a customer.
Thanks for watching and thanks for your input, it has been noted.
Funny, just bought a 2 bed ex-council flat that needs complete gutting and trying to do it on a shoestring budget so only really want to buy one drill and e.g. Milwaukee has over a dozen models to choose from across their M12,18, 24 range: (uk.milwaukeetool.eu/cordless/drilling-and-chipping-1/#!/2/) and same with Makita across 12, 10.8, 14.4 and 18 (www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/combi-drills/all-cordless-combi-drills.html) AND now I have to weigh brushed vs brushless too.
It's a good thing that you've shown people that a hammer drill is pretty much a joke, something they won't tell them in the store (best just to rent a rotary hammer if you don't need it much). The only good way to drill masonry is with a rotary hammer.
wgenerotzky how is it a joke? It’s a combi drill - that is, a combination drill - meant to be a jack of all trades. It’s never going to perform as well as a specialist tool, but he got an 11mm bit into concrete with it. That’s a pretty big ask, and it handled it commendably. Perfect tool for someone who is mainly going to be drilling into wood but occasionally might need to put a whole in concrete.
Matthew Ferrier Trying to drill a hole in anything but the softest material just burns the drill bit up and is a futile venture.
Rotary hammer is too strong for soft bricks, hammer drill works better on those.
Wylian DaCosta I can see what you're saying, you have to match the tool to the job, I mostly drill into hard surfaces, so for me a hammer drill just won't cut it.
@@wgenerotzky I am a handyman/carpenter, so I'm all over the place on both. When I have to drill on bricks, usually I have to use some fillers to hold the screw because the rotary hammer is just too much of a brute.
Drilling into concrete with a hammer drill is a waste of time, specially if more than one hole.
When I first discovered rotary hammers, I couldn't believe how effortlessly it was
may i suggest not wearing flip-flops while working with power tools & concrete blocks.....
;-)
You can suggest anything you want, but what you don't realise is those are not flip-flops, they are safety jandals.
LOL when the bit slipped I screamed a little! 🤣
they sir have a forcefeild which repels oncoming debris.
STEP AWAY FROM THE FLIP FLOPS/SANDALS! They are well formed to side step any oncoming danger with a quickness!
Just takes some practice to get them grooved in to your foot pattern. ;)
9:19 absolute madman lol
Flip-flops.
ISJ's (Industrial Safety Jandals)
Its really not a fair test 2 battery drill against 1 battery cross bit against a single head bit. But i would still buy the hammer drill not the sds i need it for home use not professional use