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I have a 7900xtx. I upgraded from a Radeon VII. There is nothing wrong with AMD. I have no idea why people don’t buy them more often than they do. I think people probably got turned off because of the driver issues that were prevalent for a long time. The problem is it’s not really the case anymore and it’s a shame more people don’t give Team Red a chance. I take a 7900 XTX over 4080 any day of the week. The only reason really get Nvidia IMO is if you want the 4090.
I will admit. The 7900xtx competes well with the 4080.
But that’s the flagship for AMD.
Nvidia still has two more cards that are better. AMD needs to nix the midrange stuff and hit the high end with actually competing graphics cards. The 4080 super and 4090 are both better
Sorry But for all of us NVIDIA real SuckS REALTALK bwahahaha BIAS 🤣🤣🤣
We can't forget AMD is in handheld and consoles.
@@Rogerkonijntje Not sure alot things can happen here and then, Xbox next gen maybe last one, Microsoft is pushing more cloud stuff gaming, if they made any chip with intel then it''s end ups up in there laptops.
@@RogerkonijntjeI don't think that possible, like Intel's GPU and APU sucks against AMD, there's no reason to switch on Intel
@@I_mnotVladIntel's 15th Gen chips literally have arc GPU cores in them, they're amazing. so before you cast judgement based on the weak 14th Gen iGPUs, make sure you look at 15th Gen. could potentially compete with AMD if Intel does it right, I've heard 15th Gen iGPUs are pretty damn good and support most of the features that arc GPUs do
True but that is Ryzen not Radeon.
You can if you don't use those platforms :)
Honestly, I think the biggest factor for slow movemebt on AMD cards is prebuilts. A large majority of pc gamers dont build thier own, and the ones that upgrade those prebuilts tend to follow the same manufacturer for the upgrades.
Also, the top end gpus from the last generation, trade blows with the top 4 of the current generation.
For me, there's no insentive to upgrade at the moment.
Exactly!
I'm still on my 5700XT, as it plays the games I want to play. New games don't excite me as much; too much grind in most games. Also, as everything has gotten more expensive I can barely get by living on my own. A handful of years ago spending money on my hobby was no problem. Now I have to double check how much I can or cannot spend on food. Of course I won't upgrade my PC at this time because of that.
Not just that, once you upgrade your pc you are going to find yourself buying those AAAA 70$ games
I have a 6700 XT and I play with a 4K120 monitor. Nobody is forcing me at gunpoint to play everything with maxed out settings.
ok boomer
@@Keullo-eFINidk how you can play at 40 fps
@@KrakkenXXX if its 45 but smooth frametime, its fine, i played 45-60 rd2 depending on place and it was fine since frametime was flat, but at his case, he will have frame spikes here and there, at least in some games
Amd I can pretty easily explain this generation. They didn’t make any compelling gpus under $700.
5600xt ki
The 7800xt is one of the best price to performance ratio cards this gen. Its that only the 7800xt and 7900xtx were worth it at all
It’s not like nVidia did either
@@mrmangbro6842 bruh you can buy a 6800xt for much less and still match the performance. Don't lie to the people
@@thewhiteknight9923 Okay? That doesn't mean it's not compelling lmao then buy the 6800xt
totally agree. Happy with PS5 instead
10:20 The problem isn't that they're not competitive with nvidia's GPUs, it's that they're not very competitive with their own last gen GPUs, especially in the current economy, people just don't want to spend money if they don't have to, if AMD isn't offering something that's great value compared to previous gen, there's not much of a reason to upgrade to 7000 series.
This all the way! Was able to get a solid brand new 6700 xt for around 350 dollars last November (including the price of the super quick shipping) instead of 7k cards and I mostly don't regret it. Knowing I could have gotten the 6800 used for around the same price stings a little but I prefer new so I made the choice I made. (Warranty, peace of mind, etc)
That's largely because everyone ignored 6000 series to keep buying NVIDIA cards even as they were starting to bloat their prices. Half of that is AMD's fault for continuing to be bad at pricing on launch, so when people can buy leftover stock of a 6950XT at $500-600 because stores are trying to offload excess stock, it's going to look much better than a $1000 7900 XTX or a $900 7900 XT.
@@winter4498I got mine used and in pristine condition for $200 CDN a few months back, it's a great piece of hardware. Especially at that price, yours too!
@@winter4498If you bought now, you could have got 7700 XT with 20% more performance and bit of refinements for 410$. So yeah, not super exciting. 7700 XT is better, but only just.
Nvidia is the same, Supers aren't exactly exciting just slightly more sane pricing.
@@noway8662 Yeah true part of me wishes I had waited until I had more saved up. I'm happy with this card for sure, but looking at how demanding games are getting in such a short period of time, if I could go back in time and make a different choice I'd probably do what you suggested. Going from my 67xt to the 77xt may not be quite the jump, but that bit of extra performance would for sure have felt like a nice deal if I were still rocking my 1080. Blows my mind though, seems like I just got the thing last week, can't believe it's been so long since it dropped, and it wasn't even necessary to upgrade from it yet. I only upgraded to play starfield and we all know how that turned out lol now Ol' Reliable is just collecting dust in a box in my closet until I can find it a new home.
I'm actually getting an RX 7800 XT in a couple weeks, I'm upgrading after my old computer (which was an office computer) just became unviable for my interests. Packing it in with an i7-14700K(F) I'm pretty excited to get the bad-boy built. I've built dozens of PCs, but this is the first time I'm building one for _myself_ and I couldn't be happier with my choices.
Nice! 7800XT is the king of performance per dollar
Just get the 7900 GRE close in price better performance 😅
@@lunaopticz8760 Oh shit 7900 GRE just hit the market, I'll definitely be looking for one!
@@lunaopticz8760 Hell yeah, getting the Sapphire Pulse 7900 GRE when it comes back into stock
As someone that has an AMD rx 7800xt and was applied for the steam hardware survey a few months ago for it, I am still confused as to why it still hasn't shown up yet. After all, it was a top seller when it came out can’t be a fluke. There has to be users like me that is using steam at least a few times, right? And the disheartening fact that people using the steam hardware chart as gospel without fact checking that there are incorrect numbers is saddening.
The steam hardware survey takes a few months to update. I'm pretty sure I'm like the one of like three people who have a 6900XT GPU and the 6900XT didn't show up as a category on the survey until a few months after I input my GPU.
I would believe that, but there were indeed Nvidia gpus that came out months later that show up faster. With the opposite of that being Intel Arcs GPU being older not even showing up once. Whether or not higher volume cards gets higher priority to show up isn't exactly certain as Valve usually don't say anything how their system work.@@BlingLingification
the title is UTTER BLASPHEMY
Prices this gen for both companies tripped the typical and even in some cases enthusiast breaking points. It came down to either buy a $1100 XTX at launch with no DLSS, RT Cores, etc, or pay $400 more for a 4090 with all the bells and whistles. If both cards offered better pricing like last gen before the crypto stuff hit, I think AMD would have sold more cards.
The lower end AMD / Nvidia cards all were priced at enthusiast prices which made them not sell for both at launch so it drove everyone to the 4090 which sold a ton.
This is the most copium take so far, dlss is proprietary, xtx has raytracing. And a competing card should not cost $400 more dollars
@@The1astGuardian False. The competing card from Nvidia was a ripoff as the $4080@$1200 (that is the 80 series "ti" model price point) hence proving my point that neither cards middle or lower end cards were priced reasonably. When it came to the higher end cards, there was the AMD 7900XTX or 4090. The 4090 performance wise with DLSS2/3 and RT tech specs wise does blow the XTX out of the water, so the pricing at $400 more is technically right. It has more tech hardware to justify the price difference. However, that is because the 4090 is a "Titan" card. Nvidia started the false rebranding of the 90 series with the 3000 series cards and removed the "Titan" name to make them sell to consumers more.
As far as me personally getting a 4090 , the "copium" callout is completely wrong in my case, because I orginally wanted the 7900 XTX. December 2022 I was at XTX release that morning at Microcenter. They only got the AMD reference model which I didn't want (after waiting in line for 3hrs).
I then proceeded to go to Microcenter almost everyday at XTX launch trying to get a Powercolor Red Dragon XTX. This went on for 2 weeks! I did not want to be forced into spending $1500 for a 4090 and the 4080 at $1200 was a ripoff. AMD did not supply enough of the XTX at launch which made me in the end be so highly frustrated that I broke down and got the ASUS TUF 4090@ freaking $1700. So no, it's not copium, it's the truth.
I have gone full AMD this build, 7800x3d with a 7900xtx, I've been happy with it so far. Really glad to finally ditch Nvidia/Intel and their slimy tactics.
Rx 6700xt and ryzen 5 5600x, and I love it.
built my first pc back in november with the 7950x and 7900xtx I went with a radeon card bc I heard they had bad drivers and me being me bc radeon had a bad rep online I wanted to see for myself if all the hate was deserved… IT ABSOLUTELY IS NOT!!!!! my pc running smooth as can be I only crashed like one time and i’m pretty sure it was the games fault
@@JahonCrosssame here, bro. I love my PC 🔥🔥
to be fair none of their hands are clean
Amd builds are basically just a console, hope your proud of your build lol
I'm really on the fence about getting the 7900 GRE but my 6700xt is still pretty, pretty, pretty good.
This is a conversation a friend and I had the other day. He has a 6700XT, but honestly I don’t think the 7900GRE is a big enough leap to justify. Nvidia has a similar problem comparing the 30 series to the 40 series
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try to squeeze a 7900xt if its only like a 50 usd diffrence
One question will answer this. Do you NEED it. Or want it. Need then get it, want then wait until next gen. 4000 and 7000 isn't worth an "upgrade"
I just went from a 3060 ti 8gb to the 7900 gre mainly because I only had the 8gb 3060 ti & my Aorus fo48u needed a better card to push it, but I’m not spending $1000 on a gpu after sales tax for a 16+ card. But I decided to pick up the steel series 7900 gre for my all white pc build & give it a shot, scored it for $550 after tax & free shipping. The difference is insane. So glad I did it.
Every prebuilt I look at in places normal people shop has an Nvidia GPU. No option for an AMD GPU, even when it has an AMD CPU.
Not even seeing many APU prebuilts. Despite that being a complete no-brainer for general use and light gaming PCs.
I wouldn’t say “no-brainer”, but still surprised.
A 5600G is like $135 retail and negates the part and installation cost of a budget GPU. My kid plays games on a 5600G just fine. Not top end 4k high, but enough to be happy.
Simplified manufacturing and troubleshooting, cheaper PSU requirements. No brainer.@@levygaming3133
APU still very expensive.
What? The 5600G and 5700G are almost the same price as their non-G versions. The 5700G is $10 cheaper than the 5700X. APUs are dead cheap compared to CPU + GPU.@@arenzricodexd4409
@12:55 I'm running a 5700xt and a 6700xt, I just don't want or need to upgrade until the 8 series... so I hope they don't only go low tier - I've been team read since forever ago. Prices are just getting too high to upgrade each gen. Thanks for all the news!
If you keep buying mid tier cards you'll need to upgrade sooner.
@@frespects9624Spent $325 on both - CDN, total thanks. And for it's time the 5700xt was the top. Silly goose.
I went AMD for the Yeston Sakura card. Got a free gift card that the equivalent 3080 wasn't offering. 6 GB more VRAM and a WH-1000 XM4 :D
It's not surprising tbh that AMD isn't killing it in the gpu space. Up until Covid it was always generally understood that the midrange $300-500 zone was where bulk inventory moved best while still making a profit, and the sub $300 space moved the most. AMD has released killer top end gpus, and here VERY recently finally made a couple decent midrange GPUs, but their low end 7000 series is absolutely being cannibalized by the last gen 6000 series that are still new for sale in most big box stores for the same price. The bestbuy where I live has a 6800 and 6700 for $420 and $280. Those cards kill their 7000 series competition at that price. Also Nvidia dominates the gaming prebuilt and OEM space.
what a lot of people dont understand about KS cpus is that they aren't "new" products. they aren't made differently. all Intel does is take top binned i9s and brand them as KS models, so top binned 14900K's will be branded as KS's, because they "won" the silicon lottery and can overclock markedly higher than the normal K sku.
If AMD has less sales with the 7000 series compared to previous generations but still GAINS market share then they are doing completely fine since it shows, Nvidia and Intel are selling even less GPU's than AMD does.
Not sure why you are bashing them so hard.
You got it wrong. AMD gain market share does not mean competitor are selling less. GPU shipment in general are going up quite significantly despite all the you tube talk that current gen GPU are collecting dust on the store shelves. For example a year ago nvidia gaming revenue is 1.8 billion. Last quarter nvidia gaming revenue is at 2.9 billion. But market share wise a year ago nvidia had something like 85%. In the latest JPR report nvidia had 80%. Less market share but revenue is up by 1 billion for nvidia. AMD in the same time their gaming revenue actually going down slightly. A year ago they got 1.6billion. The latest quarter it was 1.4 billion. GPU sales probably going up a bit but over 70% AMD gaming revenue usually comes from console. Less revenue most likely because less console order due to the console already entering it's mid life cycle.
Going from 17 to 19 % is quite good , nevermind the expanding market. Especially since you have a new competitor with Intel
Also I love AMD full red build here
The thing with AMD and Intel is their prices in the international markets. These non-US markets are price sensitive so they demand VFM cards which AMD surely has and Intel too but the 6700XT, A770 and now 7600XT and 7700XT are quite expensive than an average gamer would have preferred here and even worse when they cut prices, the price doesn't really change for the customer so people go for Nvidia offerings because they could be surprisingly cheaper or they go for even higher priced Nvidia card for "more features."
Also this time timing is what AMD fell at.
6000 series got scalped and 7000 despite being great was launched in the market that is inflated and people are holding on to their existing cards for longer. Those who proceeded to buy GPUs just went with Nvidia because similar reasons (feature set) and their availability..... 7800XT and 7900GRE were launched late so 4070 was the only option buyers had for quite some time.
I got a GTX 970 turbo its sad that we can't get anymore GTX cards and if we upgrade we would need to get an rtx and we don't have the money for any rtx cards
AMD has had to reduce 7000-series production and keep inflated prices to sell through the huge surplus of 6000-series chips they committed themselves to. The pricing model combined with Nvidia being so happy to overprice as much as they can has kept all those 6000-series cards looking really good.
Which cpu is best?
This goes to show difference to what people who talk about pc tech online vs the casual consumer. I went with my first all white high end build with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 in the white phanteks nv7. The pc is a beast and I clean it monthly.
Sorry, I bought a 7900xtx and I love it. Even convinced a friend to get the same gpu. And my other pc has a 5700xt . I may skip the 8k series and get a top of the line 9k when it comes out…if it comes out
I mean... it's been about three+ years since NVIDIA ended driver support for Kepler, and if they wait until next year, that would make it about a four year span before they ended support for Maxwell. So I don't think driver support for Pascal is going to end anytime soon. You could have another 4+ years of Pascal support. I really don't see them dropping Maxwell, and then immediately dropping Pascal as well.
It could honestly be a package deal, I believe they did that before with some generations. But I mean, most driver updates are general enough to apply to most cards so it doesnt cost them too much to keep supporting the cards.
@@Blackfatrat Yes, but those cards were the same architecture. For example, Kepler covered both the 600 and most of the 700 series. There are 700 series cards that are still supported because they on Maxwell. However, the 900 series is Maxwell and the 10 series is Pascal, so I don't see that happening either since they're different architectures. Especially with how relevant the 10 series still is. It would be VERY surprising for NVIDIA to cut the 10 series any time soon. I think we'll see at least three more years out of Pascal, if not more.
@@TheGameBench not only same arch. They also use same cuda core with tweaks. So, no surprise that they are supporting longer than amd. Amd made significant changes to core arch with rdna. Vega was basically gcn.
One way to thing of GPU sales is, there are buyers who are getting their PC for thr first time who doesnt have the knowledge of price to performance. And go with the favour of Dlss and ray tracing by watching few videos on youtube but in reality the people who uses ray tracing is in single digit %.
The people who are building PC for 2 or 3rd time are going after AMD GPU's.
And anothet factor for nvidia is the ML and AI stuff which highly supports Cuda over openGL.
This is also a weird thing. Because AMD 7000GPU have AI tensor core. This kinda baffle me that so few people know about this. Just slap LInux on a cheap ssd to get ROCm support for Cuda then it is done, all the popular AI app run with good performance.
The Epic and Apple stuff cracks me up. Epic is obviously being super aggro, but Apple is also being super petty to block them for a perceived issue that has not happened yet 🤦♂️
on the 14900KS part using a lot of power/heat generation. i have a 13900KS/3080 Ti both on water blocks in a overkill waterloop and the thing you realize quickly in games, esp at 4K is that no game can use even 50% of the CPU, the only time you will use more is on compute tasks like code compile, unrar, etc. so yes when benchmarking you can hit ~400w, but you will never see that for gaming, and a lot of games from more than say 5 years ago only need about 10% CPU power to run at max settings.
What is the roast on the Advocate Blend
im still on my RX580 because it still does everything i want. why upgrade?
cause people got money to spare, cause they want to play 1440p, cause they want to play newest games above 40fps and not to be dependant on FSR/dlss ultra performance?
Yeah probably thats why.
I do still own my 570 8gb, i still uograded to a retarded 6600 (fail) move and still got a Legion 5 pro as a daily driver.
Priorities man.
You can later switch to Linux to keep getting driver optimizations (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
@@Beryesa. already on linux for other reasons, though better drivers are a nice plus
@@noot1337 hoho, nice to hear, mesa FTW
7000 series is not bad, but it is lackluster.
I wanted to buy an amd 7900xtx or xt but it's just too over priced in Australia.
Everything is over-priced in Australia.
I just went full circle from the old HD7 series - 7970, RX590, 5700XT and since a couple of days ago 7900XT. The fun part is I don't really consider myself and AMD fan, I just never found a good reason not to go team red, price\performance wise.
In all honesty, I am thinking of going AMD on my next rig because of how bad my experience has been with NVIDIA drivers. They broke VRR on the latest game ready drivers for my Samsung Neo G9 monitor. I reported it every single time but no fix. I haven't been able to enjoy helldivers 2 and I probably won't be to enjoy Horizon Forbidden West either. $2500 monitor and a $1500 3090 ti, but Jensen only wants me playing Genshin Impact.
Prices were HIGH for gpus this time round, even with inflation, cou and gou were pretty much similar in price all the way up until the 1000 series gpus. But amd prices just barely budged, especially in my country, pair that with the fact that people who bought 6000/30 series (pre scalp) most likely dont need to upgrade, and the cost of living issues most people have. Id say oeople settling for the 6800s and 4060s is much more common than not, the 7k series just needs another 10-15% drop to sell up before next year.
I'm not intending to be narrowminded as i understand how a card performs with one game could also be the game's fault, but I'm a 15-hour a week call of duty player and I purchased the most expensive 7900 XTX available, the powercolor liquid devil, mainly because I did not want to pay the nvidia tax. After spending 7 months scrubbing the bowels of the Internet to avoid directx errors that interrupted my game constantly, I eventually replaced every component of my PC aside from that GPU, fresh installed windows and the game, updated all drivers for windows and system components, and ran the PC on stock updated BIOS, with nothing but windows and the game and basic plug-in keyboard and mouse, and still could not rectify the issue. I swapped the 7900 XTX out for a 4090, and have had zero issues. I have come to believe it was simply an issue with the game not liking the factory overclocked capabilities of that particular GPU, but if I go x670e with a 7800x3D and can't spend $1400 on the best 7900 XTX and ensure there are no issues on AAA titles, i’ll pick nvidia every time.
AMD really dropped the ball with the low end of RX 7000. The 7600, 7600 XT, and 7700 XT are lackluster or outright worse compared to the 6650 XT, 6750 XT, and 6800, which were selling at the same price points before AMD stopped producing them.
If their whole price stack were $50 lower they'd be sweeping the market, but most people with a $200-400 budget are buying used last-gen (or older) cards right now
Because 5nm is too expensive.
Running 1080 Ti is not keeping it simple. My 1070 still runs everything at 60fps at 1080p with my 14900k.
You talked a bit about driver support going away. But does it really matter that much ? Cuz I guess they aren't doing much to improve or change things for cards that old so why does it matter if it's cut completely ?
I'm rocking a 6950xt and can't justify the cost to go to a 7k series card given the games I play... I've had AMD in every system I've built all the way back to the HD7900s back in the early 2010s... Hard to justify how much the last few gen cards cost on release. I waited nearly 2 years to go to the 6950 to buy one on discount
Elon versus OpenAI is just another rich man slap fight that won't benefit us regular folk as all.
It's their prices that suck. They had some aggressive pricing with their 6000 series the past few years where they were offering a tier higher gpu at the same price as nvidia. With 7000 series, they aren’t doing that at all
Because those 5nm is crazy freaking expensive. It is the reason 7600 use 6nm instead of 5nm. For AMD selling 5nm class of gpu below $300 probably selling it at loss.
If an AMD card faster than my 2070 Super was affordable I'd own one. I bought a waterblock for it in 2022 I believe, for $300USD. The card itself cost $700CAD in 2019. For $1100, I can't even get a 7900 XTX, and the Liquid Devil version was out of stock before I even knew it was out - aftermarket waterblocks for the 7900 XTX aren't cheap either.
I'm not sure what you would consider affordable, bit the 7800xt beats it by a relatively significant amount.
@@purplegill10 The only 7800 XT with a full cover waterblock currently is the reference design, so the Sapphire RX 7800 XT (and presumably not the Pulse, Pure, or Nitro+), which I don't have available with my retailers. Even then I don't believe I can import an Alphacool waterblock (the only available) without jumping through some serious hoops as a Canadian. It's not worth the stress. I'd have to completely swap my entire case to get any air into a card with fans; it's up against another card, and tubes must go directly between the two to the chipset.
@@BenignStatue71 Ah gotcha, I missed the watercooling part.
@@purplegill10 Yeah it's unfortunately crippling my options right now, probably should have known it was going to get worse when the 20 Series only had -70 support because the 2070 Super reference and 2080 Super reference had the same layout for the screws, VRAM, and GPU Die.
I had a 1070 but now a 7900xt. Hdr recording is my biggest complaint.
If AMD wanted to be competitive, they'd priced the 7700 XT at $350-400 and 7600XT and under $300.
Miss when AMD released banger card like 4870.
It wasn't top tier card, but it gives a lot cheaper than the 280 and faster than the 260.
I'm excited for Indy cars for about 1 minute per year (watching the last lap of the Indy 500 on the news). That's how I feel about GPUs that cost over $1,000; not something I ever think about buying.
AMD's 7000 biggest competition was the 6000 series, a lot of stock remaining because of the crypto crash and always better bang for buck. I got my 5600XT right before the crypto boom, I'd like to get a 4070 mostly because of NFSU2 and MW RTX mods but living in a third world country I have other priorities like food and rent
The 7000 series is amazing. I personally am going to upgrade to a 7900 XTX pretty soon here and want to try out fsr 3
Yeah, 7000 series being about the same performance as 6000 series and 6000 series still available with competitive prices at 7000 series launch. Big surprise.
Yeah, 7600xt costs more than I paid for a 6700xt and it performs worse. Why buy 7000 series? Especially when 6000 is still available and you can get it even cheaper if you wanna go second hand.
I bought a 1070 and it was a mcsteak. I much prefer a smooth lower frame rate on AMD cards to a high stuttery mess that is NCrapia.
Three years ago I bought my Gigabyte RX 6900 XT $600 off, on sale for $1600 CAD including taxes. It is a great card but I way over paid, now both Nvidia and AMD want lockdown level pricing even though they both made bank on Crypto mining. I can almost buy 2 consoles for the price of the AMD RX 7900 XTX, 3 for the RTX 4090. The next upgrade will need to be a minimum of 60% more performance so hoping for RDNA 5. I water cool so high end or nothing and between Nvidia's cards cracking and that colossal failure of a power port this gen is a hard pass. I believe and hope AMD will be sticking with the 3 or 4) 8 pin power connectors.
Bottom line AMD needs a card that's competitive with the 4090 in order to gain market share.
Not really alot is due to software problem like cuda is much better for the server market. As 4090 is the worst value if people count in the price and the power bill in the mix. The Most that gamer do buy are low and mid range cards as steam shows 4090 is less then 1%.
Now most people buy 4090 is for AI. Can't compete with that.
@@maou5025 true, that also should reflect in JPR data. which mean in this regard, amd is doing much better in a world where most company is trying to buy nvidia for ai. card like 4090/4080s/4070tis are going to be used for ai also since they have decent vram for the price they are going for. not everyone are going to buy h100/h200
People buying that level of card will NEVER buy anything but NVIDIA.
No, they don't. Most gamers use a --60 class card. 😂
They need to make their software pack better, the rx 6600 XT is waaaaaay better than the RTX 3050, at some point they even had similar prices, guess which one outsold which?
its not a surprise that AMDs market share increase was a disapoinment. the 7000 series is great for gamers but nvidia is selling cards like crazy to AI companies.
ive atcually been debating on grabbing a 7900 xtx to upgrade from my 3090ti. Either that or a 4080 Super but the Super is more that its listed $999 price when i look online, the xtx is $979 or less
But their cpus rule :)
At least they aren’t intel :d
I still rock my 1080ti, but I'm saving for the 5090/9800x3d
I honestly did wait until AMD's 7900XTXs were out and benchmarked, but they just didn't hold up to the 4090. Admittedly, having a g9 as a monitor is a bit of an edge case, but the extra headroom on the 4090 was what tipped it over the edge for me.
Well if course it didn't hold up against the 4090, they're $1000 apart in price.
You've got a great card but when comparing products, the price brackets are relevant.
For example for me at the moment, I'm considering getting an Asus 4080 Super or Tuf 7900XTX. I'm in Europe and realistically based on price, the 7900XTX is competing with the 4070ti Super (what a stupid name). As both the 7900XTX and the 70 ti super cost approximately €1050. The cheapest I can get the 4080 Super for is close to €1300.
You know what killed the ipod When they made it where I couldn't put any music. I want on it, unlike a Android.
One State started regulating to use only their store. To get music is when I left.
I remember when this channel was only a Mining channel. Now it's a full blown tech channel!!! Love the growth over the years, Hope your son gets a cure soon!!!!
As someone who uses AMD, the fall of it's GPU market share dropping is worrisome. I worry AMD might fall and become irrelevant, that or I might force myself to use ARM for everything or go back to using a console because of it. This whole thing is worrisome!
But AMD does have some stuff to do to become more competitive, perhaps go back to being in the mid-range/high end market only?
I mean ARM might be the future of gaming
Very sad to see someone is prepared to downgrade or give up because they dont like brand x.
Fanboism at its worst
I've been trying to do my part to spread the word of amds value. I've put a RX 580 in my youngest brothers pc, a 6700xt in my other brothers pc, and a 7700 in my brothers friends pc.
Thanks for dropping that inexpensive mouse pad in deals. I'm headed to a big LAN party early next month and could use an upgrade.
I wanted to buy an AMD 7000 gpu, but my country's customs taxes increased so much that it would cost me more than half the gpu's price in customs and delivery fees [a 7600 would cost me close to 400$, which is more than the average salary in my country], so I gave up. I'm still rocking my RX580.
AMD needs to separate their graphics division from the CPU division. I think if they did that, they might improve. I understand they are seperate but they are still attached because of the integrated CPU's. Maybe create a group that bridges that gap and let them compete separately.
The 7000 series gpus came put too slow.
I think AMD's 7000 series aren't competitive at all against amd's own 6000 series, especially second hand market.
i moved from a 2080S to 6950xt when amd was liquidating that stock for like $600, great purchase and idk if i’d go back to nvidia
I'm still running my old 6600XT but sadly, the current-gen 7600XT and 7700XT aren't compelling enough for me to move up ☹ Hopefully RDNA4 provides bigger gains in performance and lower power consumption
The corsair virtuoso is not worth it! The pleather on the headphones starts chipping after about three months, leaving little flecks all over the place
Apple is becoming a inconvenience to use because of their app store. A lot things you can no longer do on iOS. For example I can't buy audible books on iOS but I can on Android.
Rocking full AMD system here, r5 5600x rx 6650xt only not buying 7000 series waiting for more substancial increase in performance with 8000 (something around 8700xt 8800xt would be neat).
I got an rx 7800 xt about 2 weeks ago and was having some very annoying driver issues... So I returned/ exchanged it for a 4070 super, and it's working great.
I only buy AMD cpus and gpus because I repurpose my old pcs for other purposes using Linux, and AMD is a lot more Linux friendly than NVidia. I've got an old pc with an RX6700 for tinkering and 3D printing using Debian Linux, and an old pc with a 2400G APU as a media/tv player running Manjaro Linux. My current gaming pc has an RX7900XT.
Guess I need to buy an Intel GPU and a AMD GPU
I upgraded last year from 1060 6gb to a 7700xt. I only miss the cuda support, rocm support is still very limited, amd really needs to step up their game to become more competive in the machine learning.
I get where you are coming from, unfortunately, I drink nespresso virtuo coffee. Get your coffee in virtuoline pods, and I'm in!
GF4 MX400, GFFX 5200, GFFX 5900XT, GF 7950GT 2 in Sli, GF 9800GTX, GTX285 2 in Sli, GF GTX570, GF GTX 780, GF GTX1060, GF GTX1080Ti. Next card 3080,3080Ti,or 4070Super. Owned 1 Radeon a 9700Pro and it gave me so many problems I swore off owning 1 for a long time. Every friend that I know that has bought a Radeon card has had more problems than anyone I know that has NV. Only 1 friend has stuck With Ati/AMD all the rest eventually switched.
AMD is just suffering from the general plateau of GPUs in regards to 1080 performance. After the flood of used 6000 models hitting the market I suspect that a lot of the "market share growth" is hitting the lack of visibility/trackability of the used market, and that for 1080 gamers there has been minimal incentive to get 7000 series.
If they can get the 8500/8600 to hit the $100 and $200 price points respectively - even if they are only as good as the current 7600/XT - there will be a lot of people happy to buy new AMD.
On god i need a nee graphics card and proccesor, im stuck on a gtx 980 and a old proccesor (dont know the name)
I would get a 7800xt but unfortunately my case is limited to 2 slot cards. So im forced to get a 4070 super
Ofcourse. Forced to. The case is bolted down and can't be swapped out. You know you can get a 7800XT AND a case to fit it, for the same price as the 4070 super?
@Audiosan79 I'm an otr truck driver and space in the truck is a premium so yes I'm basically bolted down
i thought jpr also accounted workstation also? btw too many nvidia card were bought for AI. so gaining market share is actually a good thing. AMD increase market share in a booming AI sales for nvidia where most nvidia card will be sought out for AI. those usually accounted for JPR number
AMD needs to be compatible with CUDA for AI purpose.
Gotta find me my own trustworthy coffee snob😂
The 7000 series probably hurt because the 6000 series was very popular. Not many people buy a new card every generation.
I say it's because of the rx7600 being very not competitive compared to the rx6600 to rx6700xt range of gpus
i went with 7800xt its pretty nice coming from a 1080 but the amd software kind of sucks ass cant reliably use custom resolutions its so buggy when 21:9 custom resolutions and the fluid motion frames is a hit or miss its great when it works but sometimes i need to restart the pc when its acting up :|
On a note about AMD low gains this generation, i have to ask how much of the share intel has with the arc cards.
Most put it at a single percent. Basically, AMD is outselling Intel 12 or 20 to one, and Nvidia is then outselling AMD 4 to 1.
Or in other words, taking the lower 12/13% market share, Intels deeply flawed first run at the GPU market is already at ~10% of AMD’s market share, or in other words, Intel is to AMD what AMD is to Nvidia, which I don’t really think reflects positively on AMD.
There is some issue. I was concerned when MSI released less models of AMD GPUs than the previous generation - no 7700 xt and no 7800xt models.
regarding AMD gpu market share, they only have themselves to blame, everyone told them to be super aggressive with the 7000 series, but no.
Hey if zach (ztt) is your neighbour, you must do a collab video with him! You can try getting him as a guest for hot news!
@4:39 "That awful screaming of the lambs" Headphones needed
I really like the rx 7800xt but I just can't justify the cost (mainly because i cant afford it 😂) of the 7000 series, so I am looking for deals on the 6000 series. A 6750xt or 6800, for example
Own a 6800xt for $470 already a full year with it. Paired with 5500 planning on upgrading to 5800x3D or AM5. But damn this gpu and AMD is way better than back in 2018 rumors.
AMD leads the gaming price to performance!
I bought a 7900XTX and at first I loved it but I have to say the software support just isn't there and now I'm having issues with the hotspot temps suddenly skyrocketing while just sitting on a game's menu so I'm a bit less optimistic about it now. I really don't want to start buying Nvidia again...I really don't want to
Ghost of Tsushima I hope will run good on the Steam Deck.
Maybe AMD should work harder on their drivers and give us a better value for our money instead of gouging us like nvidia. Intel is right on their heels
I have bought 2 7000 GPUs and love all of them. Got the 7900xtx and blown away. Just got the 7700s in new laptop. Voting with my dollar the best I can.