The Most Broken Moves in Fighting Games
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- From insane damage to outright cheese, here are some of the most broken fighting game moves of all time.
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0:00 - Intro
0:32 - King’s Down Forward - Tekken 1
1:30 - Storm's Super Air Dash
2:59 - Injustice: Gods Among Us
4:09 - Pet Shop's Icicle Break
6:32 - Ned Flander's Infinite
8:21 - Outro
#fightinggames #gaming - Hry
What are some other broken fighting game moves that you personally think belong on this list?
Gemini Orbitars Forward Shot and Ninja Palm Neutral Shot in Kid Icarus Uprising. Both have obscene homing even without homing boosts, in addition to other factors to make things worse.
@@MasterKnightDH thank you for the throwback to KIU online multiplayer 🤝
Robo Fortune's Jump Heavy Kick.
It's a helicopter kick that can give you some serious air time.
Hulks Heavy Gamma Charge in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite is one of the most broken moves in a fighting game
MvCI Meta? Zoning, big beam zoning that combos if canceled from character swapping or super or gems. The strongest characters have enough stalling to character swap, and keep the pressure going. So zoning is important
Then we have this busted move, Gamma Charge; which does the following
1. Full Screen, like all charging attacks. Negative on block, right? Not this move.
2. Safe on Block, It has a follow up in which Hulk charges in the air, and close to landing can cross you up for a full combo. This is obviously NOT intentional, because most follow up attacks such as a rekka performed quickly put you in auto guard, press a button and nothing happens. Not this move, press anything and you're punished for a full combo. Note as well, Anti-Air attacks don't work in this game because it's incomplete and offensive based. And you can't fight him back in the air because he already has so much advantage. Advance Guard so he is pushed back? That means you can't punish him. The next reason is the offender as to why you would be annoyed to do so.
3. Hyper Armor. What is Hyper Armor? armor attacks in a game absorb 1 hit, and leave exposure to the next hit. Focus Attack in Ultra Street Fighter 4 is a perfect example.
Well Hyper Armor, absorbs EVERY HIT until the move ends. These moves in fighting games are always very strong. But this is a different level. It can absorb LITERALLY EVERYTHING, even supers. Hugo in USF4 has a hyper Armor charge too! Except it is death on block, and can be reacted to even if you throw a move out! And yes, Hulks air follow up also has armor. This is why I mentioned the zoning meta, you can't zone him AT ALL.
So, we have a full screen charge that has hyper Armor, and is safe on block because it has a follow up (he can choose to read the air charge block and command throw), and it ends in a 50/50 by himself. This is all without the assistance of your second character, where the game will explode. So... How do you counter this move?
4. Back jump normal attack. There is one move this move doesn't absorb, and it is pressing a button at the correct time, during a back jump. He still absorbs airborne special attacks, don't expect Zero (a top tier for instant mixups) to do anything. Forward jumping puts you too close even if he is at the back of the stage. And the back jump has to be a read, reacting to the startup is unbelievably hard. And guess what? Even if you jumped at the perfect frame, there is a chance the second character is alive where he is still unpunished because he swapped!
The games in this list are from the late 90's where gaming was going through experiments to figure out what worked. Are the moves in this video stronger? Yeah, Hulk can't infinite. However, This game released in 2017, where a move like this should NEVER exist.
The best part about all of this, was Hulk wasn't considered meta. Because no one wanted to experiment with this awful game.
Not sure if any smash moves quite make the list, but I’d love to see my favorite series get some representation. Maybe a “most misleading hitboxes?”. Some that come to mind right away are sm64 Kirby u-tilt and ssbb snake f-tilt (or u-tilt). These moves have a hitbox at least 2.5-3x what would seem appropriate for the characters animation and I’m sure that there would be many other competitors too it. Great video as always!
For clarity on Petshop in case it didn't make sense to some:
The icicle has to be blocked based on where it is, as if it were it's own character. Basically, you'd have to be able to block both left and right at the same time. Urien's Aegis Reflector has something similar in 3rd Strike.
The funny thing is, Petshop's unblockable is not unique to him. But what makes him notorious with it is because his setup is way too easy to do, no meter and no nothing. I'm an ultra noob with below the lowest skill, struggles to catch people with Urien and Vice's unblockable, but 10 minutes in, i'm already able to do Petshop's unblockable.
Ned Flander calling God to use his predator drone smites is probably not a move I would expect even in the actual show.
God has helped Need before like when Todd got saved in that critic crossover, and in the pin pals episode.
LMFAO LIKE HOW?
This man took Jesus is my tagteam partner, too literally
I've experienced the Ned Flanders lightning attack first hand, my mate would pin me down and zap me to hell while cackling with maniacal laughter 😤
Bro was smiting you with gods lighting.
Whenever my friend picked Flanders I could only beat him with Homer. His special after eating cookies receives a speed boost and dodging the lightning is easier.
That feels on script with The Simpsons
The fun thing about pet shop is that pet shop was banned from as early as 2007 if im remembering correctly. Now you're thinking that's a long time after the game came out so of course they'd know the meta well. No. JoJo was a COMPLETELY different game meta-wise back then. So what I'mm saying is that before the game was even truly explored he was banned. He was SO OP that they literally just TOUCHED HIM and he was banned.
if its +9 on hit and +93 on block, its clear it should have been +3 on block but someone copypasted the on hit code, forgot to delete the 9 and just typed 3 afther, common mistake but funny it went to the final version
Maybe the stagger is for something more REASONABLE like a +33
I wonder if they typed it in the numpad??
XD
@@Ramsey276one +33 would take it out of this list but still would one hell of a move
@@exec_rigveda8299 YEP
@@exec_rigveda8299aren't jabs still 10 frames? So the float combo would still be doable
(Unless king has to dash before the jab, then maybe it’s not doable)
it likey would have been coded as # of stun frames, not plus frames
"The mark of my diddily-ignity shall scar thy DNA, neighbor!"
Personal suggestion: Dairou's Tombstone Drop from Mortal Kombat Deception. Unblockable ground pound that falls in like 3 total frames, has almost immediate recovery, and the only way to avoid it is by jumping in anticipation. Dairou was probably the best damn character in that game because of that stupid move lol (it really bites that it also looks tremendously dumb too)
Imagine getting your ass kicked by a guy who's just repeatedly falling on his back. What part of '3 frame fullscreen unblockable that launches for a full combo' made midway think that thing was OK to put in their game.
Ned Flanders being compared to Gill from Street Fighter is the funniest thing I heard all day lmao
In the campaign mode of Virtual Fighter 2, Pai's straight kick will stagger Lion just long enough and far enough that you can just spam it and her auto-advance from the move will keep up. Once you land it, it's a steady, reliable chip-down until his health bar runs out.
Are the frames different in campaign?
Dunno,@@Guitar-Dog; I've never played that game PvP against a Lion player. I played the game in the small, tucked-away arcade in my college's student union, mostly at times when said arcade was pretty much dead. Didn't have access to it anywhere else at the time.
@@davidgoldstein729 I only really play virtua fighter in Yakuza.
I'd guess the frames are the same, love your use of PvP in a fighting game.
Like arcade mode is PvE 💀
As someone with only a little knowledge of all the different games in the FGC, I love these videos you make! So interesting to learn about games other people have loved for years
Ned sendin’ people to harmony is my new favorite inside joke😂
Shouts out to Kain in Gauro for having a +11 on block fully invincible flash kick that also gives him full combo.
The fact that no metaknight neutral b or really any of Ivan ooze attack from the super Nintendo power ranger game is a crime. Like ivan ooze has by far the best move in fighting game history with one attack that charges homing missiles but the charge around literally brakes hit stun meaning if you get hit or are about to do this move and your good. Also they can really hit you in it
There's another move that is absolutely insane
Abobo's Earthquake super from Double Dragon (Neo Geo)
The way that the move usually works it's that he bulks the fuck up, and slams his fists onto the ground 3 times, all 3 ground punches creating an earthquake effect, so it hits standing enemies 3 times, but crouching enemies are unaffected. So you must be thinking "It's just an earthquake kind of super move, just jump or crouch and you're safe". And normally, you'd be right. But lemme tell you the problems with this move
First off, the game's dizzy mechanics. Unlike most fighting games, this game has 2 different dizzy types. The standing dizzy, which works just like your standard fighting game dizzy, triggered by normals or attacks that don't knock down; and the grounded dizzy. Triggered by grabs and attacks that knock down. it causes the enemy to stay in a knocked down state for a longer time, and from there, you can do the game's universal pursuit attack, which is the only way to hit an opponent in such a state....But Abobo just doesn't give a shit about that. His Earthquake super is the only move in the entire game aside from the universal pursuit attack that can OTG. Meaning, if you're fighting Abobo, he has a super ready, and he ground dizzies you, you're gonna eat a whole super for free. And since Abobo is a grappler who deals lots of damage pretty fast, it's all too easy for him to get you in such a state if he gets the chance
Oh, and if you're thinking "Well, then I'll just jump attack him if he tries to do it", don't. So, the move has a little startup, yes, but if he's slamming the ground, don't even think of getting close to him, because each time he slams the ground, an energy shockwaves comes out of his fists and surrounds him. Meaning, these shockwaves will hit you out of the air if you're close enough. Oh, and said energy shockwaves also negate most projectiles
I admire the thought you've put in to this.
He really must have hurt you.
@@mnemonichotpocket No, in this case, I was the one who hurt others a lot with this. But my dignity allowed me to warn others XD
Flanders in the thumbnail?! AWW HELL NAW NOT THE TRACKING THUNDAGA
Love this style of video from you guys!
It’s good that Ned finally gets called out for his BS. Always felt like you were going against a raid boss when you fought against him. I had to cheese him with infinite head-dives.
We need a full video on injustice
Literally my favorite gaming channel on CZcams. Never stop making videos
great video as always from you guys
Imagine getting ToD'd by a character who can't survive running into a window
Man, I hated fighting AI Flanders as a kid. And that douch nozzle was a locked character. I beat him the same way I beat other OP-chars (Frink and an Alien) - by spamming traps all over the ring as Willie. Then I could just run around while he walked all over my rakes until he died.
Minor Corrections on the petshop section:
1. Icicles usually won't crossup in neutral, putting it behind the opponent won't cause a crossup, there are setups for it but it's pretty much useless when petshop can setup unblockables instead.
2. Mashing out against petshop is an arguably viable option as shop has TERRIBLE startup and active frames on his normals, most chars can beat out his buttons easily
3. Petshop players almost never do actual TODs(and even if they try they aren't guaranteed), his normal TOD combos are pretty difficult even for a hftf char and are prone to getting dropped by the games infinite prevention system, what's more common is his meterless knockdown into unblockable oki, which works a bit like a 50/50 since it can be guard canceled out of.
Thank you for not doing the "He's broken because he can fly!", and good job pointing out the fact he can charge icicles on block, it's one of the biggest things people will gloss over.
Awesome video
👍
This was way too short! Love the video. Great job as always
I think in tekken's case i would mention tekken 5's steve fox and his famous 3, 1, 1 (hold 3) death stun
Ned Flanders literally had god on his side.
the second half of this list is absolutely unhinged lmao
Thanks for the vid
Awesome video
>> no honorable mention of hokuto no ken's rei's DP that literally can cause an infinite loop that freezes the CPU requiring a restart
>> literally broken
sadness and sorrow
Moves that cause game breaking glitches is its own video. I remember the SFxT glitch where if Rolento's knife collided with another projectile it would crash the game.
Its an Esports channel, youre not going to get much kusoge.
(Dont know if hokuto no ken is kusoge but it sounds weird and jap)
@@arachnofiend2859 sorry i intended to sound as a joke, also i THINK they made a video about hokuto no ken
Flanders was the bane of my childhood, my friend realized very quickly how broken he was.
Its surreal seeing jojos characters in old games from the 90s as jojos didnt explode in popularity until 2012 when the anime was released but the manga has existed since the 80s, so in many peoples minds jojos is not that old
yomi hustle workshop has a ton of broken stuff because all the characters are user-created, and a really funny broken move from yomi workshop is atlas's back breaker. It's a frame 6, massively disjointed command grab that outranges most jabs and comes out faster than most pokes so it can catch them on startup, and since it's a grab you can't block it which is the usual answer to big pokes, while also being actionable frame 10 on whiff so even if you dodge it you can't get a punish. It also launches the opponent and activates cosmic pull on hit (atlas's gimmick, hitting certain moves queues up a cosmic pull which gravity pulls the opponent in the direction you choose after a fixed duration), allowing for huge combos from it.
That alone would be pretty good, but for some reason the atlas dev thought it would be funny to make back breaker able to hit aerial opponents as well as grounded ones and gave it a massive vertical hitbox too, which means you can't jump to dodge it and it's also an absurd anti-air, beating pretty much every jump-in option including block, which makes atlas almost impossible to approach from the air. There are often situations where a back breaker would beat out every single attack you have, forcing you to backdash it and return to neutral, this one move makes the character a defensive monster that's really hard to approach safely.
But there's even more, atlas also has a move called barrier, a 2 bar super that's basically vergil's spiral swords, and of course back breaker has more range than barrier so it can catch people trying to block it, as well as create unblockable situations under the right conditions. I would say back breaker needs a nerf but it's a really funny move so i hope they keep it as is, it's caused quite a few ragequits from people who get antiaired by it
Counterpoint: John Yomi
Zelda's Final Smash in Ultimate, Tfiforce of Wisdom.
Wario,Bayonetta,DK and anyone who can teleport can easily avoid.
I see Ned Flanders, and I immediately know what the video means by that
Mr. Ping from Kung Fu Panda: Showdown of Legendary Legends down air attack.
think yoshi down air attack except it's a ranged acid spit and consistently does like 50% hp
Half the roster can infinite with air attack cancelling
Fatal Fury Special, Geese Howard. He was the boss of Fatal Fury 1 with a counter move that made him tough as hell at higher levels. Fatal Fury Special was the first time he was playable and they made his counter move too easy. I used to trash people all day on 1 credit until they gave up. After that they made his counter move harder and he soon disappeared from the King of Fighters lineup.
You forgot Steve Fox infinite combo in T5
I thought I was getting clickbaited when I saw Ned Flanders on the fucking thumbnail.
It was not clickbait.
Love vids like these, more pls?
what was that dbfz clip and where can i watch it
Heavenly powers to ki-diddly-ill you!
Petshop's icicles are certainly worse than Kakyoin's nets, that's for sure
what about brawl meta knight tornado it could be used in every situation and some characters didn't have any move that beat it
i was expecting just one part where it just tuned to the dude saying vergil in umvc3
Street Fighter 6 JP's Amnesia and Shin Kidō Senki Gundam Wing DeathScythe has a teleporting projectile that's totally broken.
I enjoy more HFTF representation. A video solely dedicated to it would be cool.
Jason Voorhes in Mortal Kombat when he would randomize your controls was insane
I mean, if you want to talk about good moves on bad characters, there's Smash 4 Ganon up smash lol
I would love to see y’all’s take on the best fighting game character of all time. In good games.
AK was the best in T1. He had the same df1 but he had more tools than King and could do 60% off of it the aforementioned move.
Ah yes my favorite competitive fighting game, the simpsons wrestling
Ned Flanders is basically Ed Gruberman. God smites his enemies with his smitter.
Tekken 2 King's Secret instant kill off of counterhit.
in case tekken 1 king was busted enough, the devs were like "Lets make the most busted character in the first have an instant kill in the second game that's not in the command list so the CPU on higher difficulties can bullshit a win off of the players. The kids will love it!"
yeah, and if King gets the counter hit and the whole setup, he does an untechable command grab that does well over your whole bar of health in damage... and it can be done right as the match starts...
Giving Flanders a rez is absolutely hilarious
Tekken 4 Jin's Laser Scraper was cheap and broken.
That one takes execution to pull off consistently. I believe the moves mentioned here are piss easy to do.
We need brawl mk up air and shuttle loop and spiral swords and helm breaker from umvc3
What about LC debuff?
In Sailor moon S Sailor mars' super does more damage on block than on hit, and sailor Uranus's command grab can be dash cancelled into itself
Another one im not sure you hear of
Imortal attack in power rangers, full ahield which deals damagw and you can stilk move
Nedlewis Flanderson
Kaz and heihachi are both considered better in Tekken 1 then king
Which is saying something
Wind god fist was mid that could death combo you
I've heard somewhere that Kakyoin is even more broken but requires way more skill than Petshop, but I dont follow the game so idk.
BROTATO MUSIC LETS GO
FLANDERRR
+93 is the funniest thing I've heard in my life
Ok but what about Happy Chaos' GUN. Or Elphelt's GUN. Or Xrd Johnny's... sword.
Psycho Crusher SFII 😂
6:44 😂😂😂😂😂
JMCroft mentioned.
Fox shine should make it to the next one
If you use cheat code in Simpsons wrestling. Make the gauge bar unlimited then chaos follows. Me and my bestfriend spam the hell on Neds god lighting over and over lol
Kirby down B in Brawl is obviously way more OP than anything in this video
Voldos ground squirm from soul Calibur
why is this in the Among Us cathegory 💀
Pre nerf android 21 lab coat 236hs, command grab that permanently make opponents character deal small damage. The most broken move in modern fighting games.
It's only justice that Ned is the best. So funny, why am I seeing this video just now?
They probably told em to "change it from +9 to +3 when blocked" homie just concatenated the strings to 93😂. And thought hmm fair and balanced as King should be.
3:09 among us
Ned flander on the thumbnail 💀
Arashi 3p from Jingi storm
The dumpster was batman’s prep time
Hard to beat God cheating for you
I mean King's move was in Tekken 1 so expect it to be op.
3:45 AND REUSABLE?!
unbreakable
🤯
4:13
Was that Motley Crue?
@@i_fuze_hostages6.... that's the wrong Stand??
Great🍾 🌼😄
among us?!
Laser annihilator from T4? Freaker jab? Just a footnote about infinite combos in Tekken 4?
Nothing was worse than deathstroke in the 1st dc fighting game. Spam gun intil they get close then sword spam. Disgusting
6:33
probably not due to it's reputation as a garbage game but I wonder if there's any documentation on simpsons wrestling that'd explain things like how many times Ned can rez and whatnot
Ned Flanders made Mr Burns and Kang n Kodos Look like chumps... I used Bumblebee man for his combos till I used Flanders then well the rest was history lol
NOT NED FLANDERS HAHAHAHAHA
How did foxes shine not make it into this lol
It's not even his best move
These are banned from tourneys right?
not all