Why Google's Founders Really Left Google

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    Out of all the top tech companies, the company with the most distant founders is no doubt Google. Larry Page and Sergey Brin have completely stepped away from the spotlight handing over the reins of the company to Sundar Pichai despite their relatively young age. Even when Page and Brin were at Google, they rarely served the role of CEO, and they mainly dealt with acquisitions, Google’s moonshot factory, and innovative projects. This isn’t to say that they didn’t want to be the CEOs of their own companies though. They very much wanted to shape the company and its direction, but the shareholders were never very big fans of their leadership. You see, while Page and Brin wanted Google to do well financially, that wasn’t their number one goal. Their number one goal was for Google to be a research institution that pumped out cutting-edge technology on a regular basis. But, every time Page tried to lead Google in this direction, he often faced a significant amount of pushback from shareholders. And eventually, the duo came to accept that this was simply the future of Google. This video explains Larry Page and Sergey Brin’s revolutionary ideas for Google and why they ended up ditching Google.
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Komentáře • 483

  • @jstusr
    @jstusr Před rokem +339

    If they still own a controlling stake, then why should they even care about someone else's opinion?

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před rokem +144

      They don’t own a controlling stake. They own controlling voting power. This is because their shares translate to more voting power than regular shareholders.

    • @Lowkeyy
      @Lowkeyy Před rokem +31

      @@LogicallyAnswered so basically they get the final say on board decisions?

    • @TheSeanjohn2012
      @TheSeanjohn2012 Před rokem +54

      If they do whatever they please, investors will retaliate some way, which isn't good. I don't know how that'd work in this scenario but I think that ousting them or just leaving all of the decisions to them since they can do whatever they want would work. Two people can't make the decisions an entire board should.
      That and they don't seem to want to be wealthier anyway, they were academic who found a way to get super rich, now it's time for them to be just academics and do what they like without worrying about tomorrow's meal or this months bills.

    • @boulderbash19700209
      @boulderbash19700209 Před rokem +16

      @@TheSeanjohn2012 As the video explain, they only have 14% of stocks, but they have 51% of vote. I don't know how that happens. Maybe 51% among the board of directors or something.

    • @thanhnamledinh9418
      @thanhnamledinh9418 Před rokem +17

      Some company have special policies about primary shares . If the primary shares with primary owner, they have 5-10 times more voting power compared with normal shares

  • @natalieeuley1734
    @natalieeuley1734 Před rokem +69

    I visited Google in 2013, and I think it was the last era of true Googleyness and growth before things started to fall. That Google is definitely not the same Google that exists today. I don't know what happened, but the little girl in me who dreamed of working for Google had to give it up because that Google I dreamed of working for no longer exists.

    • @bonabotina9329
      @bonabotina9329 Před rokem

      They weren’t even hiring non Ivy League schools till 2013. By the time they were open to hire new people we don’t want them anymore. They did all this innovation but didn’t consider their company reputation

    • @gomahklawm4446
      @gomahklawm4446 Před rokem

      They got in bed with the govt. That's what happened. For all the crap we say about China's internet etc, we're not at all far behind, and we're far ahead in other ways. In neither of those are any good things.

    • @GEMSofGOD_com
      @GEMSofGOD_com Před 4 měsíci +2

      Yes. Glass was a complete failure that exposed how bad things were

    • @SvenReinck
      @SvenReinck Před měsícem +1

      Same. I was there in 2008. But over time I preferred building my own company.

    • @onewizzard
      @onewizzard Před měsícem +1

      Investors and Management Consultants always destroy anything good, for the good and adding another penny to balance sheet.

  • @HighIntegritySkills
    @HighIntegritySkills Před rokem +105

    As a former Googler, Sergey was always a friendly guy. Larry just wanted to focus on building cool things and tried to see if he could do that as CEO. Ultimately it wasn't the right job for him. They still retain the majority of the voting shares.
    One day at TGIF - (weekly all hands when company was still small) one of the employees asked Larry and Sergey if they missed coding and they both said "yes..." before elaborating on lessons they learned in management.

    • @GEMSofGOD_com
      @GEMSofGOD_com Před 4 měsíci +3

      Sergey is now casually coding GPT on a day to day basis with OpenAI.

    • @nobodythenobody9779
      @nobodythenobody9779 Před měsícem +1

      Idk why but this is such a cool motivational story ty

    • @tilly704
      @tilly704 Před měsícem

      i will love if they come back and save google.. because from this user perspective, are not improving google docks tools ( AI, is not really a want) , dropped good services, google meets ended a scamming tool ( boy friend / girlfriend scam), the search engine show me 3 pages a not 1 relevant result. and Gmail, broke the promise of never needing to erase an email ( yep I am an old user), y got invitation. So, ruined the beat product, drop interesting ones without even marketing them, i cannot find anything in internet, wondering if I can come back to Altavista… I used to love this company, now I am frustrated with the products.

  • @arpanbag001
    @arpanbag001 Před rokem +47

    Any company that starts with a goal of doing something will lose that goal as soon as it goes public, because majority of shareholders do not care about the goal, or making the world a better place.
    The only thing they care about is profit.
    So if you really want to change the world, never make your company public.

    • @neerajkerkar
      @neerajkerkar Před rokem +3

      True, these shareholders are also pushing Google to layoff staff now. I can understand Meta laying off as their stock price has really taken a big hit, but Google is doing somewhat okay yet still there is a push for layoffs.

  • @shivendrasingh4631
    @shivendrasingh4631 Před rokem +240

    The most searched word on Bing is "Google".

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před rokem +38

      Hahaha, that’s actually hilarious 😂

    • @randomstories7609
      @randomstories7609 Před rokem +2

      The owner of bing would have been very pissed.

    • @thomasslone1964
      @thomasslone1964 Před 10 měsíci

      If you don't know how to change your default search engine then you're not a demo that matters

    • @saeedgnu
      @saeedgnu Před 5 měsíci

      And most of the rest are coming from DuckDuckGo, which works much better than Google nowdays.

    • @HUEHUEUHEPony
      @HUEHUEUHEPony Před měsícem

      Now Google says pregnant women should smoke 3 times a day

  • @DinoRodriguez
    @DinoRodriguez Před rokem +78

    I miss a Google with Larry and Sergey in the spotlight. Unpretentious CEOs, loved it.

  • @syntrax-og
    @syntrax-og Před rokem +225

    Google already removed their slogan "Don't be evil" couple of years ago.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před rokem +43

      Hahaha, I wonder why

    • @nrbgamingYT
      @nrbgamingYT Před rokem +4

      I don’t think it’s removed, believe it’s just moved further back down on their annual docket.

    • @William_Clinton_Muguai
      @William_Clinton_Muguai Před rokem +9

      @@LogicallyAnswered Because the comprises that have been committed by this company have bedeviled it & thus this title would suffer abject sarcasm.

    • @gz6963
      @gz6963 Před rokem

      There was an internal argument over it and they changed it to "Do the right thing"

    • @SMAMR8
      @SMAMR8 Před rokem +2

      its now do the right thing

  • @CreatingCreations
    @CreatingCreations Před rokem +42

    Honestly sounds like what Mark should have done.

  • @kevinwilliams3694
    @kevinwilliams3694 Před rokem +19

    Oversight and accountability may just be inconveniences for a hard working genius, but for the rest of us their essential.
    I really like that the funders just go off and do what they want, instead of being dragged into jobs their not suitable for.

  • @NisseOhlsen
    @NisseOhlsen Před 10 měsíci +12

    I completely have to agree with Larry. Tech people should NEVER report to non-tech people in development. Good people need no managers. They manage themselves. Set goals, revise offer support, and stop programs if needed. All of those require that you understand the technology.

    • @JUSTSAYING-dg4hu
      @JUSTSAYING-dg4hu Před měsícem

      Yes, but that will never work when you are using someone else's money... So much money in tech - it honestly boggles me that many founders prefer to have overlords...

    • @arodvaz1528
      @arodvaz1528 Před měsícem

      Sure! As we all know, tech people are the paragon of ethical values.

    • @NisseOhlsen
      @NisseOhlsen Před měsícem

      @@arodvaz1528 I am yet to be convinced they are worse than other groups.. they may be left-leaning, so biased, though, but not my a huge margin', I'd say..

  • @stuarthys9879
    @stuarthys9879 Před rokem +22

    As a scientist I respect Larry’s philosophy, but good management is important for any big project that requires people to work together to succeed. Personally, I would only hire managers who have proven themselves first in a technical (science/engineering) field. I wonder if they were forced to hire too many bean counters who have no understanding of anything except money

  • @Raptorman0909
    @Raptorman0909 Před rokem +18

    The "Don't be evil" thing is, well, just a memory, a memory of an idea that never really existed!

  • @gtbkts
    @gtbkts Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the awesome content and great video!

  • @notheotherklaus
    @notheotherklaus Před rokem +36

    I guess "Don't be evil" was easy to implement at the start, but then they had to bend backward for investors and NSA/US government. After that, the slogan became a slogan for double morals. But, besides that, I guess they are not doing too badly on the evil part.

    • @RobertDooley-sl7cp
      @RobertDooley-sl7cp Před rokem +3

      I forgot what they changed it to but they don't use the don't be evil policy any more.

  • @loopbloke
    @loopbloke Před rokem +12

    I love Larry and Sergei. In fact the moment they cut down on Google X lab projects and pushed Larry and Sergei, there start demise of Google innovation.

  • @kevalan1042
    @kevalan1042 Před rokem +452

    ironic that Larry does not like oversight since he built the largest surveilance company in the world

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před rokem +98

      That might’ve factored into why he left

    • @kreuner11
      @kreuner11 Před rokem +48

      It's possible this was not his intention

    • @josjoe1928
      @josjoe1928 Před rokem +6

      Not really

    • @ravitejaknts
      @ravitejaknts Před rokem

      Brainwashed by Apple. It's not how it works at all.

    • @Xerox482
      @Xerox482 Před rokem

      nope you wrong that island idea of their can tell us that they were feed up from usa gov spy requests

  • @hello2jello4mellow34
    @hello2jello4mellow34 Před rokem +17

    Amazing how this channel keeps producing so many films a week! Thank you! (... and yes, they are films)

  • @the_witchdoctor
    @the_witchdoctor Před rokem +236

    As a Google employee, I 100% think Larry was right, and it's a shame he didn't succeed at cutting down the management/bureaucracy.
    Every year we've seen an increase in management % of employees and a decrease in engineers' ability to self-select work areas, projects, promotion designations, peer reviews, etc. At this point, if you want to do/ask basically anything, you need to go through your manager, or manager's manager..

    • @eitkoml
      @eitkoml Před rokem +5

      It's just a regular job now. Are the salaries and stock options still awesome?

    • @the_witchdoctor
      @the_witchdoctor Před rokem +16

      @@eitkoml The salaries are still great, although there is definitely a broader gap depending on your level in the company. The stock is still good (for me at least, with my original offer package from way back), although the value hasn't seen growth in a while and they do the deferred shares calculation based on when you receive them, not when you joined, but I think that's actually standard practice so I don't have any gripe with it.
      The QoL benefits matter more or less to some people; if you prefer WFH then it probably doesn't factor into your consideration, but if you enjoy cafes, gyms, on-site coffee, laundry, social events, etc., then other tech companies like FB would probably be more competitive (Google historically legendary onsite benefits haven't really come back yet in the post-pandemic, and may never).
      Anyways I'm not a lawyer or PR person so hopefully I don't get in trouble for sharing my opinion here, and I should probably add that the experience may vary widely depending on what part of the company you're in

    • @nomas9893
      @nomas9893 Před rokem

      google is a cancer - thanks a lot

    • @Naxt366
      @Naxt366 Před rokem +2

      that's why Google will be doomed

    • @torgrimhanssen5100
      @torgrimhanssen5100 Před rokem +2

      slowly turning into a black sweatshop company?
      Innovation is the first thing to die when management gets in the way.
      I wonder how much of their work google engineers own in the end.

  • @OnurTheXbot
    @OnurTheXbot Před rokem +30

    Get this man to 1 million subs already.

  • @TheDuked
    @TheDuked Před rokem +4

    Great stuff bro!

  • @venkate5hgunda
    @venkate5hgunda Před rokem +158

    Love this. As an Engineer myself, resonate with these guys opinions. I love building software to solve the problems I face, but when someone keeps telling me that no, don’t do this, it is quite frustrating. Good for them.

    • @TheBooban
      @TheBooban Před rokem +8

      And project managers with deadlines based on their wishes are not helpful. More than anything, they slow things down.

    • @mango-strawberry
      @mango-strawberry Před rokem +9

      @@TheBooban especially the ones with no technical background. They're the worst.

    • @houchi69
      @houchi69 Před rokem +9

      It does depends. If you are building software for clients, then clients will tell you what to do, through project managers or customer success managers. You can't just build whatever you want, without knowing what the customers or target demographics are looking for. You are building something for OTHERS to use, which means you need to know how they will use it, not how YOU will use it.

    • @jacob9673
      @jacob9673 Před rokem +2

      Especially when they don’t have a technical background.

    • @humanfirst11
      @humanfirst11 Před rokem +2

      You will build according to what your client asks of you, definitely not what you want. You can do that in your free time.

  • @souravraj
    @souravraj Před rokem +38

    I strongly think that Google would be much better off under larry's and surgey's leadership just imagine what Google would be if they haven't acquired Android , CZcams and self driving car.
    Back in 2014 when I was high school I use to love Google for their crazy projects like Google glasses etc they seemed so much more innovative and cool.
    Investors are short sighted they only care about quick profit .

    • @eitkoml
      @eitkoml Před rokem +6

      Shareholders are the downfall of companies. Founders usually go public with the intention of cashing out their shares of the company and don't care if the shareholders cause the company to crash and burn.
      I also think that after making Sundar Pinchai the CEO the 2 founders just realized that they like things like having leisure time and getting 8 hours of sleep per day. Eventually they just decided to retire and live life as some of the richest people on earth both in terms of money and time. After all their attempts to fund the R&D for a method to make humans immortal have definitely failed by now, so they're just going to enjoy the time they have left to live.

    • @paulssnfuture2752
      @paulssnfuture2752 Před rokem +3

      @@eitkoml its not that plain and simple, shareholders are neither good/bad but is always case to case basis.
      market dynamics can also take in to place and when there are no public offering or shareholders/investors the company will not be able to fund the needed advancement before the lose the opportunity.
      anyperson that has stake on the company can cause its downfall, any factor that affects the company can cause its downfall.

    • @GEMSofGOD_com
      @GEMSofGOD_com Před rokem +2

      Remember that Google has never managed to get a single AR app for their $2 Cardboard in a decade and absolutely failed Google Glass. Who could fail such a gift?! Only the not-super-smartest.

  • @suryansh70
    @suryansh70 Před rokem +1

    Interesting and insightful

  • @polloman15
    @polloman15 Před rokem +6

    Public companies’ Achilles’ heel, Investors…

  • @davidvincent8929
    @davidvincent8929 Před rokem

    THANK YOU

  • @Phriffo
    @Phriffo Před rokem +32

    Larry and Sergei deserve more public attention than they get.

    • @tomasprochazka6198
      @tomasprochazka6198 Před rokem

      I believe they don't want to be on spotlight :) in comparison to some attention whore :D

    • @Phriffo
      @Phriffo Před rokem

      @@tomasprochazka6198 hahahah yea, u definitely have a point :)

    • @Books_Makeup
      @Books_Makeup Před rokem +1

      I believe the opposite. The wealthier a person is.. it's wiser to avoid public attention. I have lots of respect for Larry Page in that regard. He stays away from people who cause drama and stays out of the limelight.

    • @Imetalh
      @Imetalh Před 9 měsíci

      that's the goal :)

    • @caty863
      @caty863 Před měsícem

      I don't think the guys share the same opinion. W/o the spotlight, Sergey is now banging whoever he wants. he is have a blast!

  • @SudoSudo-yh9tt
    @SudoSudo-yh9tt Před rokem +12

    I think the last rule was always the first rule "don't be evil" that's what their goal, unfortunately as you grow and have to answer to others probably,most likely, highly guarantee even to the government...thennn you start losing interest in what you start it all for....I think they had a different idea but between competition and making investors happy........that "dont be evil" written on code lines disappeared and they also did...

  • @gamer22887
    @gamer22887 Před rokem +1

    Great video and really well researched. What is the name of the song playing in the background?

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před rokem

      Thanks man! I’m not sure actually, my editor chose something from epidemic sounds

  • @rohangeorge67
    @rohangeorge67 Před rokem +1

    great vid man

  • @dlg5485
    @dlg5485 Před rokem +36

    While I agree with Larry's anti management stance, every corporation needs to be held accountable by some outside entity. We have seen all the proof we need that corporations will violate every common sense decency in the book in the pursuit of profits, so they must be closely regulated for the benefit of the public.

    • @CensoredByYouTube965
      @CensoredByYouTube965 Před rokem +6

      Like CZcamss out of hand censorship and demonetization.

    • @dlg5485
      @dlg5485 Před rokem +6

      @@CensoredByCZcams965 That is one example of many when it comes to corporate malfeasance. The fact that there is never any real accountability proves how much control corporations have over gov't regulators.

    • @pcost
      @pcost Před 11 měsíci +2

      *You just did not realize/heard that Larry is LITERALLY the type of guy who does not care about pursuit of profits but pursuit of groundbreaking changes and innovations.* Google under his management would have done even more tech breakthroughs without government reins.

    • @dlg5485
      @dlg5485 Před 11 měsíci

      @@pcost Your willful ignorance annoys me.

    • @quAdxify
      @quAdxify Před 11 měsíci

      Well, it is very easy. As soon as public shareholders take over there is no vision anymore. It is about one thing, and one thing only, profit. If it was allowed and profitable they would engage in child trafficking and whatever. There is zero morale, zero vision, just profits. It is no surprise that Google's massive innovation left together with Sergey and Larry.

  • @aaziz1271
    @aaziz1271 Před rokem +1

    Brilliant & informative

  • @ekesandras1481
    @ekesandras1481 Před rokem +4

    Google Books was a very great service. I used it a lot some years ago. But today the service is mostly broken. No more fulltext, only fragments. It shows you that your search query appears in the book, but it doesn't show you the text of the search result anymore. I don't know, maybe there is a premium subsription or something, but not even that is clearly apparent.

  • @shivendrasingh4631
    @shivendrasingh4631 Před rokem +4

    I think you had also made 2 videos earlier on this channel on Google founders but nonetheless got some new information.

  • @DeltaDemon1
    @DeltaDemon1 Před rokem +41

    Here's one thing I like about this vid. In the first 2 minutes you answer the question. You don't leave it for the end like so many other vids do to force me to stay. You answer it and then, if I want more info, I can choose to stay. This is a good thing. Gonna subscribe just to encourage this even though I probably won't view many other of your videos. Keep up the good work.

    • @DavidLee-lq5lz
      @DavidLee-lq5lz Před rokem

      True

    • @aniketprasad3128
      @aniketprasad3128 Před rokem +2

      So basically you gonna sub him but won't help him gain watch hours and hence funds to produce such videos 😂 that's precisely where engineers and product managers would fight on how to progress

    • @blastys
      @blastys Před rokem

      @@aniketprasad3128 lmao and exactly why youtubers leave the answers until later in the video.

  • @ToothNroost
    @ToothNroost Před rokem +22

    As always, solid video. Well done.

  • @r0b0coffee
    @r0b0coffee Před rokem +10

    Larry Page is a genius and an entrepreneur, not a businessman.

  • @doomtomb3
    @doomtomb3 Před rokem +40

    I think Google would be more Googley with original founders but not as financially successful.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před rokem +3

      True

    • @mailmeabhilash
      @mailmeabhilash Před rokem +6

      We don't know that. Those guys built something remarkable, until managers came in and changed it.

    • @aaronbirook4367
      @aaronbirook4367 Před rokem +6

      @@mailmeabhilash Founders build startups, CEO's scale corporations. They cannot run Google.

    • @GEMSofGOD_com
      @GEMSofGOD_com Před rokem

      Remember that Google has never managed to get a single AR app for their $2 Cardboard in a decade and absolutely failed Google Glass. Who could fail such a gift?! Only the not-super-smartest.

  • @ahhchoo8488
    @ahhchoo8488 Před rokem +8

    the old Google was better. It stood for something. They were trying to build things that were greater for humanity.

    • @GEMSofGOD_com
      @GEMSofGOD_com Před rokem

      Remember that the new Google has never managed to get a single AR app for their $2 Cardboard and absolutely failed Google Glass. Who could fail such a gift?! Only the not-super-smartest.

  • @RobertDooley-sl7cp
    @RobertDooley-sl7cp Před rokem +5

    He didn't get the book thing right, it came down to copyright law. Also, they created a very good browser however, that doesn't mean you can be all things to all aspects of a company like this. That is why it's best to build a team to support the areas you are not good at.

  • @foo1913
    @foo1913 Před rokem

    when is this video made?

  • @SamBrickell
    @SamBrickell Před rokem +16

    *1:55* one of the founders' goals was *"don't be evil"* Google is one of the most evil companies now.

    • @ekesandras1481
      @ekesandras1481 Před rokem

      there are a lot of companies much more evil than Google.

    • @Zetornator
      @Zetornator Před rokem +3

      Evil cause the investors only care about the cash not the future...

  • @khalidelgazzar
    @khalidelgazzar Před rokem +6

    The simple answer is "He was secretly laid off" 🤨

  • @knowngate
    @knowngate Před rokem +1

    image of a person or ceo matters alot, these are tech companies, and soo vulnerable. that can dust in a sec. . so trust must b within companies.

  • @Joshua_Lawrence
    @Joshua_Lawrence Před rokem +3

    Seeing what Alphabet is doing with Boston Dynamics tells me they forgot about "Don't Be Evil."

  • @firozebukht8207
    @firozebukht8207 Před rokem

    e-labours are actually transporting the data files into the computer memory cells otherwise?

  • @dvdgalutube
    @dvdgalutube Před rokem +3

    Larry and Page shouldn't have left Google. They are the reason why Google is different from other big tech with long history like IBM, Oracle, etc.. Now, Google will become IBM in due time. This is sad. I guess every human will eventually worn out. Sad...

  • @SleepyToastyTea
    @SleepyToastyTea Před rokem +1

    oh dang, that's quite the intresting.

  • @deathlogic1
    @deathlogic1 Před rokem +1

    Fast forward a couple years, everyone is trying to get rid of middle managers....

  • @venkatbabu186
    @venkatbabu186 Před rokem

    How do you get integrated buying power. Email browser sales utube Etc. Except free areas. Decentralisation of products types like airlines browser airline utube Etc. But hard to produce skins of targets.

  • @doingtime20
    @doingtime20 Před rokem +21

    This hits at the heart of a truth most people don't want to see, and this truth is that most founders are not superspecial enlightened beings, they are capable people yes, but mostly they were at the right place, at the right time, and with the right tool. Google and Facebook are excelent examples of this, all of them would have had brilliant tech or research carreers, but they kind of 'stumbled' into something that was perfect for the moment. Because what if Larry and Sergey had been born 15 years before or 15 years after? Would the world wait for their search algoritm? Or someone else would have come up with something similar just 5 or 10 years later? Same for FB, how long before someone comes up with a good social network? Would Zuckerberg still beat said network if he comes even 5 years later?
    I'm not discrediting or saying they don't have merit, what I'm saying is that these are "normal" people catapulted by incredible success. The thing is that creating an amazing math algorithm doesn't make you know the best way to manage even an small company. But the individual swept by this huge success starts thinking they are indeed all knowing people and that they know best at every single matter, no matter how far this is from their actual field of expertise.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před rokem +6

      Well put. They largely succeeded by hiring professional managers that knew how to manage large originations. It was either of the founder's strength. Brin realized that before Page and quickly backed away.

  • @YouTubeTeacherRemote
    @YouTubeTeacherRemote Před rokem +5

    I believe in the power of research and so many people find great careers, information and inspiration from the internet. From 2 PhD students looking to bring information and knowledge to the masses, having had their idea chopped to making money off of what's viral had to be a hard pill for academics to swallow. True academic is always about learning and about the knowledge.
    In 20 years or so when social media will be doomed evil and less profitable then maybe a shift for actual research and knowledge will take a hold. Only time will tell

  • @johniii8147
    @johniii8147 Před rokem +12

    As google grew and went public, it simply outgrew their management capabilities. It's really that simple, it wasn't their strength. Hardly the first time this has happened in tech. Brin checked out a long time ago. Now they can sit back and enjoy all the money they have from their initial idea that made them both billionaires many times over.

  • @Telluwide
    @Telluwide Před rokem +13

    Unlike Zucks, Brin and Page gave up the company as soon as they took it public and gave up their majority stakes....Brilliant innovators don't necessarily convert that brilliance into other spheres. Not that Zucks is such a great businessman, but he was smart enough never to have given up control of his own company.....

    • @sigi9669
      @sigi9669 Před rokem +3

      Neither did these two. While the (vast) majority of shares are now public, the ones that Page and Brin (and Schmidt) hold have ten times the voting power of regular shares.
      Page and Brin still have a combined 51% voting power. So they could stop this company "being evil" tomorrow if they wanted to..

    • @thatundeadlegacy2985
      @thatundeadlegacy2985 Před rokem

      @@sigi9669 still got booted from their own company

    • @gzhang207
      @gzhang207 Před 8 měsíci

      Brin and Page have adapted well and successfully.
      Zucks, on the other hand, well just take a look the $$$ incurred for Metaverse that has never taken off.

  • @MOBMJ
    @MOBMJ Před rokem +8

    you should never ever kick founders out of a company. I don't care what they did. its there company not ours, yes we are shareholders and lucky to go through the roller coster ride with them. but, when you are investing in a company you are no investing in the company, you invest in there creativity and there Passion.
    That Apple for example, Steve Jobs my not be present but his soul is still blended into the company. the only reason Apple exist is because of him.

  • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164

    Each one of these tech companies could make investors wealthy again.

  • @thee-sportspantheon330
    @thee-sportspantheon330 Před rokem +20

    Managers feeling humiliated after being insulted in front of a group. Omg my heart weeps for them.

  • @bvssrsguntur6338
    @bvssrsguntur6338 Před rokem +1

    Wasn't this video published last year too?

  • @mailmeabhilash
    @mailmeabhilash Před rokem +11

    Could be bcz of Spl interest groups wanting to establish their control. Larry and Sergy get to keep their wealth, but they would be losing out on the directing the company.

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před rokem +1

      Which is probably a good thing for the company. Neither were skilled managers.

    • @ivanm.paton-anaccidentalex4145
      @ivanm.paton-anaccidentalex4145 Před rokem

      Exactly. And that special interest group is the WEF investment funds who seized control, and they're yanking Zuckerberg's strings, and had control of Twitter, and look at the whole result - mass censorship, Google search has turned to shit and spews disinformation for the first 30 pages, and doesn't even give you all the results anymore. This is the global deep state-this is how they work. They jump on board and fund new ideas and then seize control of them

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 Před rokem +2

    Hey brother, hope you’re having a great week!!

  • @benjaminduval6054
    @benjaminduval6054 Před rokem

    Once out of the initial growth phase, ax the creativity and stick to the script.
    Founders often struggle with that pivot.

  • @GauravSharma-gt2gp
    @GauravSharma-gt2gp Před rokem +4

    If they weren't greedy to get big, they would still be innovating there.

  • @esselsid3727
    @esselsid3727 Před rokem +65

    Creepy surveillance aside, it's always good for a company when the founders realise that the the company that they created can flourish more with the right people which might not necessarily be them... Or they could turn into Facebook

    • @Archipelagoes
      @Archipelagoes Před rokem +6

      Vision is the foundation of any organization and company.
      The more steady the vision the stronger it can become.
      If the vision is not strong enough to sustain something as massive as Google. Then the vision needs to be changed for the better.

    • @esselsid3727
      @esselsid3727 Před rokem +1

      @@ArchipelagoesTruDat

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 Před rokem +3

      That's a good point. The founders are often NOT the people to manage a company once it reaches a certain size, especially on the scale Alphabet has become.

    • @flaguser4196
      @flaguser4196 Před rokem +3

      perhaps they could use the money (and experiences) they gained to start a new one that they're happy with. they're still young. john carmack is one example.

    • @777rogerf
      @777rogerf Před rokem

      @@Archipelagoes Envisioning a new technology and a related business can occur in a flash, sometimes in a waking dream or the middle of the night. The qualities required to develop, lead, and manage one of the world's biggest business based on the vision can be entirely different. Elon Musk, for example, bought into one of the world's greatest companies--something that the founders could very likely not come close to achieving.

  • @ronjcharity
    @ronjcharity Před měsícem

    Companies are great during growth and innovation periods. Once their product service saturates and growth stops it gets ugly.

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 Před rokem +11

    Low key, they dropped off the face of the earth!! Crazy to see and hear!!

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před rokem +2

      For real, especially given their power and status

    • @TheBooban
      @TheBooban Před rokem

      @@LogicallyAnswered China: See. Everybody can catch the Jack Ma flu and must retire.

  • @OneOfThePetes
    @OneOfThePetes Před rokem +2

    Wow!
    I think that's the first time you've used the word "Ironic" correctly.
    Congrats!

  • @rajeevrp1500
    @rajeevrp1500 Před rokem +4

    If bunch of smart engineers can work together as a team by putting their personal ego aside then obviously managers would not be required, but that’s not the case unfortunately.

  • @subhasish661411
    @subhasish661411 Před rokem +30

    I think giving managers too much power is always bad idea. Speaking from experience. Gotta side with them. They are like mediators who doesn't add any value and waste everyone's time by scheduling random conference calls.

    • @edwardmacnab354
      @edwardmacnab354 Před rokem +7

      A bank manager at my bank. when I was opening a second account told me that windows 7 would not be insecure just because Microsoft would no longer be maintaining it . He also believed that windows took care of everything through updates--he really got miffed when I suggested that most computer hacking fiascos were the result of Management thinking it knew more than IT ! I'm kind of a Noob so, I may be wrong here in thinking he didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground .

    • @jords2009
      @jords2009 Před rokem +1

      @@edwardmacnab354 not wong at all XD

  • @WyomingGuy876
    @WyomingGuy876 Před rokem +1

    "Don't be evil" is a phrase used in Google's corporate code of conduct, which it also formerly preceded as a motto. Following Google's corporate restructuring under the conglomerate Alphabet Inc. in October 2015, Alphabet took "Do the right thing" as its motto, also forming the opening of its corporate code of conduct.

  • @ghb323
    @ghb323 Před rokem +13

    Should shareholders be the blame of why corporations lose their soul and become corrupted?

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před rokem +2

      Probably

    • @ghb323
      @ghb323 Před rokem +6

      @@LogicallyAnswered Examples: Game companies having aggressive monetization schemes (microtransactions), car and any device manufacturers trying to outlaw your right to fix your devices you own (right to repair) not to mention BMW asking for a subscription to use a heated seat that’s a physical object preinstalled on your car, printer companies to monopolize what ink you can use on your machine, music and movie companies to demand more harsher copyright policy at the detriment of legitimate rights of any users.
      All of these cripple your digital rights, are being anti-consumer, or just outright create a problem and rent a solution (not sell, rent, as in a subscription).

    • @ghb323
      @ghb323 Před rokem +1

      @@LogicallyAnswered Shareholders are therefore asking for an economic crash. Already there’s too many greedy corporations asking for more. And there’s currently inflation. With purchase power being in decline, eventually there’ll be no more cash in the well.

    • @mihaiburloiu367
      @mihaiburloiu367 Před rokem

      yes

    • @mango-strawberry
      @mango-strawberry Před rokem +1

      @@ghb323 i won't defend anyone here but I think game companies should continue with the microtxs. If they put up their game for free then they need some sort of source of rev and ig the best way they found is through microtxs.

  • @Soulenergy31
    @Soulenergy31 Před rokem +11

    10:47 they didn't want for Google to lose its identity as a research institution either, now I might understand why its initial project to access all the books globally was demoted.

  • @bishoptoothpaste1858
    @bishoptoothpaste1858 Před rokem +3

    No , it is always wise to put smart minds in charge after some time .. just like our children, We can't keep them life long . They should be left free. To grow to greater heights.

  • @fahlmancomputing8628
    @fahlmancomputing8628 Před měsícem

    Whatever happened to the rule "Don't be evil", or was that a different company?

  • @RajA-0202
    @RajA-0202 Před rokem +21

    Is it ironic Larry Page is the co-founder of Google Page rank?

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před rokem +4

      Hahaha

    • @tomasprochazka6198
      @tomasprochazka6198 Před rokem +3

      And made PageRank, to rank pages. Not Page's rank. It was simply his destiny to give us the perfect search engine. Until the tracking came in :/

    • @miguelpereira9859
      @miguelpereira9859 Před rokem +1

      It's not ironic it's appropriate

    • @st0a
      @st0a Před měsícem +1

      Why is it ironic? He's a STEM graduate, I think he's got a maths degree.

    • @lifeonmars4088
      @lifeonmars4088 Před měsícem +1

      Most commenters did not get the joke lol

  • @bizzfo
    @bizzfo Před rokem +1

    Right, Schmidt didn’t know they bought Android in 2005 when Schmidt was on Apples board and the iPhone came out 2 years later in 2007. Right.

  • @JoseSanchez0795
    @JoseSanchez0795 Před rokem +2

    Another Home run ❤

  • @marcusaurelius2013
    @marcusaurelius2013 Před 28 dny

    “Don’t be evil”? I’m pretty sure they officially got rid of that slogan

  • @jasonlaiym
    @jasonlaiym Před rokem +4

    Larry is someone that have the balls to do everything I think of doing and for that I totally respect him. He sticks to the fundamentals not some mumbo jumbo management speak.

  • @BartLocanthi
    @BartLocanthi Před měsícem

    Larry's heart was definitely in the right place, and I miss his Google.

  • @Lowkeyy
    @Lowkeyy Před rokem +2

    At the end of the day, the investors own the company - Lowkeyy
    Have a great day. 😊

  • @philipmurphy2
    @philipmurphy2 Před rokem +33

    I actually think them five rules actually worked for the company, It led to some amusing things in there Google Labs project. Obviously only the best stuff from the labs made it to the final Google. But it was excellent at asking users there viewpoints on things and made the user feel like they had some input on Google.

  • @MoniqueLewisOfficial
    @MoniqueLewisOfficial Před 7 měsíci

    I need an Emilio Pucci look. And a matching handbag.

  • @khumbomunsaka716
    @khumbomunsaka716 Před rokem

    I’m watching this while a google ad is in the video.

  • @Outrageon
    @Outrageon Před měsícem

    Crazy how there's an alternate universe where Google is a research company

  • @PtolemyXVII
    @PtolemyXVII Před rokem +2

    I’m sure sundar talks to Larry and Sergei every week

  • @hdosuna
    @hdosuna Před rokem

    The most played part of the video is them with pied piper and hooli T-shirt’s

  • @VinceOmega
    @VinceOmega Před rokem +1

    They dropped that "Don't be Evil" slogan a long time ago.

  • @JohnDlugosz
    @JohnDlugosz Před rokem

    Re your closing remarks: Didn't Google _already_ drop their slogan, some time ago?

  • @chreinisch
    @chreinisch Před rokem +1

    As an Engineer I must say financial oversight is required 😁

  • @CensoredComment-os8py
    @CensoredComment-os8py Před 5 měsíci

    Interesting

  • @DrEhrfurchtgebietend
    @DrEhrfurchtgebietend Před měsícem

    It's weird that he didn't see the simple solution. Take your engineers which are not actually that great at coding but super good at managing and organization then make them managers

  • @markmalonson7531
    @markmalonson7531 Před rokem

    Hey logical you know who they sold it too. Nice video smarty pants.

  • @demilishing
    @demilishing Před rokem +3

    Hopefully their recently announced hiring pause allows them to reevaluate how much of their talent is engineers compared to management and how that has evolved over time.

  • @RayMak
    @RayMak Před rokem +3

    Google is amazing

  • @blue7lvn245
    @blue7lvn245 Před rokem +1

    Downside of making a company go public, they start a new private company

  • @elir.torres8642
    @elir.torres8642 Před rokem +7

    The only reason why Pichai is CEO is because he has that india connection to cheap labor just like Microsoft does. That is the reality.

  • @supercellex4D
    @supercellex4D Před rokem

    they wanted to make another xerox park or bell labs

  • @DavidDLee
    @DavidDLee Před rokem +4

    Larry was always very altruistic and seeking ways to help all of mankind / the planet. However, with his head in the clouds, he was difficult to work effectively with and wasn't good at the day-to-day running of a business.
    Sergey was trying to build the cool new thing, was not invested in making incremental improvements to existing organizations or processes. He was never executing to get to some eventual desired state.

    • @westrim
      @westrim Před rokem

      That tendency hasn't gone away though, the Google Graveyard has numerous new plots every year as the company gives up on projects and products. It's to the point that it seriously damages future prospects - wariness of Google pulling the plug is a big part of why Stadia failed, for example (along with a bad business model that was never reevaluated). As a company, Google continues to chase the Next Big Thing, and doesn't tolerate or retool if something doesn't work out in the first couple years, or is only moderately profitable.

  • @TotalBorroto
    @TotalBorroto Před rokem +1

    The slogan was changed a few years ago. It's not don't be evil anymore

  • @Tra-vis
    @Tra-vis Před rokem +1

    Why is Netflix the source for all the Mr. Robot scenes? They’ve never hosted that show…

  • @kamertonaudiophileplayer847

    If they remain with Google, then probably we have no mess with audio files we have now.