Tips For Beating A Deer's Nose
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- čas přidán 14. 10. 2020
- Beating a deer's may be easier than you think, when you follow these highly proven tips for controlling your scent. Thermals, the amount of wind and your stand location are all key factors for learning how to cheat the wind. While scent control begins with your stand location, the art of beating a deer's nose will rely on your ability to practice these various deer nose-busting hunting tips.
To beat a deer's nose you first have to choose the best day to head to the woods! Check out the HuntCast whitetail weather prediction app that I personally helped develop for your future deer hunting success. Please visit: huntwise.com/sturgis
To learn how to get the most out of your deer land and keep your scent out of the nose of deer, please visit my latest web class at: www.whitetailhabitatsolutions... - Jak na to + styl
Been deer hunting 40 years but just started bow hunting this year and realized I don’t know how to deer hunt! Lol. Get in close is tough. Finally got close enough this morning but I didn’t get a clear shot. Best thing is, I watched this non typical pushing 2 smaller bucks around for 1/2 hour inside 30 yards and watched them disappear without ever knowing I was there! Even though I didn’t get a shot I was comfortable with, it was one of the best mornings I’ve had deer hunting. I slipped back out the way I came with the deer non the wiser. Love these videos! I’ve learned so much that I never though of while shooting deer in a green field. Thank you.
Personal note- thanks for the forecast!!! HuntWise had me anticipating today, and just an hour ago my son connected with his first buck! Thanks for the lessons, they paid off in the best way.
Watch your videos every chance I get. Thank-you for the tips!
Dan Infalt has a ton of good info on thermals, how they interact with the hills, etc. Also using milkweed has been a game changer and eye opener on how wind/breezes actually travel in the woods. The powders only show what the wind is doing 5ft (or so) away from you. Watching milkweed float and paying attention to how it travels is really amazing and a fantastic learning tool (plus its free)
milkweed is the best
Jeff you teach me a lot and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge
Keep posting! Great videos , I hunt with a 300 win mag , and I hunt in tree stands , love your videos, keep them coming , I'm from NC
Perfectly timed as many of us are either in the woods or getting ready. My dad allows followed the "wind up in the a.m. and down in the p.m." and it worked pretty good for him.
I just found one of the best locations on public land that I've ever seen and with a cold front moving in I had been wondering about wind switching on it. So this was very helpful. Hoping I can utilize that this evening.
Thank you for explaining it were people like me can understand. A lot of are you tubers are too complicated I like you.
Good tips, especially about downwind blockers!
Great info Jeff thx ..last weekend pm hunt. ..Had three bucks come by ..wind was settling to low ground ..similar to your explained scenarios...I was actually under ridge ..prob 80 yrds ..they also walked under ridge say 40 yrds midway ..on wooded rivine ..the never smelled me .. wind was goin down hill into hole ...couldn’t pull off a shot one was nice 👍 fun
Great content .. glad you shared .!
Hey man been watching your videos and it pays off because I got my first 8 point buck here oct.16th pa vary happy thanks alot!
Thats awesome man his videos really do help so much for real
Good points Jeff
Couldn't agree more with all of this. I think it's worth pointing out to people that are not familiar with thermals that what you mean by up in the morning down in the evening is that The thermals are actually going down for the first hour or two of hunting light then switch and go up until the last hour or two of hunting light. you kind of clarified that later in the video, but I wanted to point it out in case anybody missed it.
Also, have you ever considered doing a live video with q&a? It's very popular.
Hi Jeff! When I was in my teens I was surrounded by scent control fanatics. Some can be so foolish and the misinformation even comes from guys I look up to (think a prominent scent lok advocate who believes him getting minimum of 30 feet up in a tree has nothing to do with not getting winded by close deer). The best scent control I ever used was not going through puberty when I first started hunting at 10! I get a little more stinky these days at 23 lol! I found a happy middle ground with my scent routine that seems to work just fine on a budget!
Love the clip and the cat. I climbed too the peak today and found me a tree on 3 path heads. Going from the high in 70s to overnight lows in the 30s high in low 50s. Big front just moved out. Going to climb up 20 feet or so and overlook the ridge. Everything is looking good. We shall see
So what happened.
3 tags this year in mass. Season starts in Monday. I got a pretty rare doe tag for where I live and I'm really excited to try for my first deer. I've been hunting the last several years learning a little each year. I love your videos.
How did you do. I’m in Southwick with a doe tag. Going out in the am after the snow and temp drop on Halloween
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I've been a few times so far, but I don't want to blow or my stands until rut. I'm kind of scouting/ still hunting other areas that look good on the map. I went today during the snow and saw nothing, but the snow was falling quickly...
wind and up n down temps have been the story for me so far this year. been a wild one, ready for better days!
Some great days coming right now...hope you can take advantage of them...good luck!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 gettin all my other garbage done so i can take full advantage haha
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 gettin all my other garbage done so i can take full advantage haha
I wish I could make it out this evening but I'm off work tomorrow and will be in the stand all day! This weekend is muzzleloader for Kentucky but unfortunately doesn't look to be that good of a weekend for deer movement. Thanks for the info and knowledge as always Jeff!
Also in Kentucky. I'll be out dark and early with my old cap gun. Good luck!!
Thanks for the information!!! You are a tree with a big learning shadow for rookies like me!!!
Hunting the tallest point of a ridge is key. If I’m hunting a ridge that runs north to south I know I’m gonna be ok with a west wind that’s 5-10mph with deer bedding East or traveling in front of me or on the eastern side of the ridge. You can get away with that 9 out of ten times on a hill as opposed to flatter land. Any wind running along the ridge will falling thermals you’re toast! Good stuff.
Great vid. Helped a lot thanks. Any chance you could do a part two on the whiteboard or on a map to show some examples to help me wrap my mind around it more?
Going out tomorrow morning thanks for this
Great vid brother really good info..
Thanks a lot Chris...really appreciate your comments 🙂
Great video brother been watching a lot of your mapping videos only problem I’m having is narrowing down areas to go hunt at.
Thank you very much! Hope they help you narrow it down...
Great video!
Thank you very much Bobby!
I had to listen to this video twice, this is some hi level stuff
Can we get a review of your initial thoughts on the different First Lite gear layers. layers, durability, wind resistance, patterns, etc. Thanks
I tried using scentlok clothes 2 fool deer but it didn't work this year I started hunting wind and didn't spook any deer🙂 I feel your subscribers deserve a discount for hunt wise and first lite😉
Hi Bradley I learned the hard way too that carbon clothes were a sham 🙂 I wish I could do that, ha Fortunately both are selling like hotcakes right now! Hope you can try the HuntCast app...we have a great cold front taking place right now this weekend, hope you can hunt it!
Anyone hunting tonite?...Good luck!!
Amen to that Brad...for sure!!
Waiting on good weather here in smellinois
Tomorrow night and Saturday morning for sure,the past of couple days in Missouri, the temperature has dropped significantly,the best of luck to you all!
Rain tonight here in TN. Stopping in the AM, 18 degree drop in temperatures and the barometer is rising. Had a guy tell me one time @whitetailhabitatsolutions when the temperature and pressure meet bucks will be on their feet.
I did I could have shot 6 different does, but I had a buck on camera coming in just before dark so I held off, he didn't show lol
Ty
Quick question Jeff. Can you get huntcast separate from the main app? I want huntcast but I don’t really need the other features.
Hey Jeff was wondering I have a stand on the downwind side of a bedding area I plan to hunt when the bucks start cruising! I need a East South East Wind to hunt it. If the bedding area is in front of me down below the top of the ridge would you ever consider hunting that stand in the morning if say you had a North West wind blowing towards the bedding area in the morning because of the rising thermals? Or is it to risky?
Hi Jeff, I live in Wisconsin where can I buy the family tradition tree stands and climbing sticks. Ive watched your videos for awhile now and I love your set ups
Add Jeff good video what do you do when you kick up a buck on your way into your stand you still do you still want that stand you were going to or change stand location
One thing I have never heard anybody talk about is what is the best way to get an old mature buck that is nocturnal to come out during the daylight
Let say you have a finger off trees that runs northeast/southwest. Within it is a travel corridor. There is good tree cover on both sides of this corridor. If there is a moderate wind blowing from northwest to southeast would you expect the deer to be in the travel corridor or on the leeward side of this finger of trees? Southwest of this finger is a picked soybean field. I am using it as a wind blocker because I don’t expect them to be out there.
On both of my leases the wind is never consistent And always seems the opposite of weather predictions.
It’s always a swirling.
However I have managed to drop a few nice archery bucks on both properties over the years.
Great stuff as always..Does fog slow deer movement in the morning?I live near a large creek.And it seems like its foggy till 9AM. Almost every morning. Should I just stay in bed??
Im gonna use these tactics this weekend and hopefully i see more deer
Thats sounds great Cole...good luck!
Hunting the wind is important, but my question is what brand of detergent do you wash your hunting clothes with? If you don’t mind sharing. So far I’ve been using dead down wind. Thanks for the informational video. 🏹
Jeff any advice for dealing with feral hogs on the property, does it hurt my deer population?
I’ve never hunted out of box blinds. I still have to believe you have to play the wind but I was told you can get away with a wind that is borderline.
Jeff, I now believe that I have been traveling the same path in to the stand that the buck im after has been and ever since the first day I hunted the stand here in Oklahoma (October 4th) he has only come out at night, he came out in daylight last on the 2nd and had been a morning light buck and never left my property or my food before season, being out there nearly all night long and a lot during the day. Now he only shows up once every 24 hours and at night. How can I get him back out and sleeping on my property again. Also, my food is really close to the property line and I believe he crosses the fence. How can I deal with this problem
Jeff quick question I’m noticing that my Brassica plot seem to be getting hit hard . It’s currently middle of October is it to late to layer some more wheat in . I’m in ny catskill area temps are up and down . Thanks Jeff love the vids
Over seed with winter rye grass
What camouflage co u using now
What is your opinion of how thermals impact your scent near creeks and rivers? How is the prevailing wind affected by them and is it best to hunt morning or evening near them?
Within the last week here in south east Pennsylvania I got 7 different buck on trail cam hitting the same vine mock scrape when weeks ago I only got 1, is it beginning pre-rut at this time?
Hi Spencer! It is the signing phase right now...Definitely not the Pre Rut. Check the last video...will help explain this period of time. Make sure to wait just a little bit longer to hunt your pre rut morning stands...
czcams.com/video/Zf5-PYCijNA/video.html
Hey, sorry to interrupt this comment section. Ha. There is also the Eckman Spiral to consider. When the wind drops from a ridge or tree line it veers off 15% to the right. A function of the Coriolis effect.
Interesting...I've hunted extreme hills since 93 and studied wind and thermals for that time...and have never seen that 🙂 Thankfully have never seen that or I wouldn't have shot some bucks, ha
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Just a minor detail. Probably of no consequence 95% of the time. I wanted to add to the conversation. :-)
Concraption. True true
The high stand in the morning, low in the evening has worked many times for me.
For sure...me too! Such an important strategy for deer hunting in general.
For sure I have a set, where one stand is 30yrds higher up the hill then my second stand. I hunt the high in the morning and the lower later in the day. They both worked for me
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I know you should hunt high when thermals are rising in morning . But what if the sun hasn’t heated up forest floor yet in a certain area ? Should you still go high or hunt Low and Waite ?
Headed out tonite in Georgia. Anyone try White Oak Whisky cover scent? Works well and lasts a week.
Good luck in GA! I always feel the best scent is no scent 😉
is there a way i could send multiple maps of the property im hunting for tips of where to set up ?
Man Raleigh I wish there were! I visit roughly 125 clients from Mid Dec to Mid Sept for my daily fee...those are 13-14 hour days with driving. It wouldn't be fair to my paying clients to give advice and I don't have time for phone consults or online land designs...those are also bad for folks because they lack the level of accuracy that I demand for you. I also will create 208 videos this year, finish a book, created an 18 video, 11 hour web class and answer around 10,000 social media posts. I also hunt and like to spend time with family and friends. I get so many requests to check things out for folks online and that hasn't ever been a possibility as I do this at a very high level for my career. I hope the videos help you out! Thanks a lot for asking...
*Trying to watch the video and pay attention* Me for the rest of video: WHERE DID THE KITTY GO?
That was one of the biggest deer I’ve ever seen and it walks right up to you. 😱😱😂😂
Ha, hoping to see him this year! If you are referring to the big 8 passed him 3 times last year...really joong to find him soon
Have you ever had a core buck set up in a way that you couldnt get in or get out without spooking deer? I have a 6 year old 9 point that I've been hunting for 3 years. I cant get into his area without bumping deer in the morning or evening on the way out. I've left the bow in the case and waiting for rifle season. Have you ever had a situation like this?
That's why the big bucks are big bucks. They are wise. Many i hunt seem to be fully nocturnal. That's why the rut is often one's only chance at ever possibly seeing some bucks.
I can't count how many times I've been hunting and a deer blew at me. I just think the deer either hear me or they see me cause usually I only hunt when the wind is in my favor.
Yup. And, the scent thing is usually hype to sell product. I have deer follow my tracks right behind me. I've killed deer after eating mcdonalds on the drive out to the woods. Etc, etc.
Jeff...I see you changed your camo pattern this year. Can you tell us why?
Hi Rick, changed back in April...here was the release video and then I have been wearing first lite in my videos since 🙂
Better whitetail team, opportunity to collaborate at a higher level, great people, incredible gear with a companies goal to create the best whitetail gear in the planet. Opportunuty to use prototype gear to and to have input in the design. And for sure...better camo pattern 👍
With scent control to a maximum on a day with winds blowing 5 to 10 miles an hour how far could you expect human scent to travel hunting Flatland?
C'mon, this isn't science class.
Does rain wash away your sent on the trail to your stand? How long does it take to clear that sent?
Hi derek, I ran beagles on rabbits for many years and it doesn't take a long time...I would guess 15 minutes to a 1/2 hour depending on the amount if rain.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thank you for getting back to be so fast. I appreciate your help!!
I'd say the best way to look at Scent Control is the attempt to be the least offensive possible. The more offensive you are, the further downwind you will put deer on edge, and the longer your trail through the woods will put deer on edge. The idea is to minimize not eliminate. Say the wind swirls quick for some reason, and goes the exact opposite direction you want it to. The worse you smell the larger the area that will be impacted by that scent deposit, and the longer it's going to last. Take two identical situations of a buck walking downwind of a hunter, one does everything to minimize scent, the other does nothing. At 20 yards, he's going to smell both, but as you get further away, the hunter that practices sent control will disappear faster. So maybe at 100 yards one hunter is no longer detectable down wind, while the other one is still very much detectable. He may be detectable out to 200 yards or more. (random made up numbers) It's all about minimizing how offensive you are to the deer's nose. And of course try to use the wind to your advantage and what not, but sometimes unexpected things happen.
The cool thing is...very easy to predict the wind. Stand location will determine that you never spook deer. So important to not leave a scent trail thru the woods when you hunt, but if the wind swirls or a buck gets downwind...that was just bad planning. I can honestly say that nearly 100% of my top 75 bucks would have been shot regardless of how I smelled from the stand....that's close to 30 on public land as well.
I love to minimize my scent for the walk in but if a buck gets downwind while I am on stand,, I hunt like the hunt will be ruined and I encourage folks to do the same. I find the biggest scent freaks are typically the least experienced/successful hunters.
What are your thoughts on hunting calm mornings when the sun is out creating rising thermals? I think your scent lifts up in the air and over the deer on those type mornings, even in flat country. Also Ive noticed on days with gusty winds, no matter how strong, there is a backdraft effect between gusts. The wind will turn around and blow 180 degrees in the opposite direction in between gusts.I have all but given up hunting on those days.
See, i play a deer's ears. I love windy days, as it messes with their hearing. Makes it much easier to sneak up on them.
@@zzz7zzz9 Im a stand hunter.
@@jasonphillips73 then you're a sit'n'waiter, not a hunter. I'll use a blind and stand occasionally, but almost always pursue/hunt the deer.
@@zzz7zzz9 Yeah OK. We cant all be as good as you think you are.
@@jasonphillips73 just where did i say i was good? Nobody is bragging.
And sitting in a tree is not hunting, it's waiting. To hunt, is to seek, to pursue. None of that is being done, sitting on a seat up in a tree. I'm not knocking it, i said that i have a blind and a stand. For some deer, that's the only way to possibly get them. But sitting in a tree and waiting for a deer to come to you is not hunting that deer. It's hoping, not hunting.
This being my second season, I still have a hard time visualizing what you're talking about with thermals and winds on hills. Also, trying to determine the difference between a morning stand and evening stand.
Hi Aaron, best of luck! I have 14 wind and thermal videos of mine in my playlist...hope you like them 🙂 A morning stand is away from food and near bedding...an evening stand is near food and allows you to get into the stand without spooking deer in bedding areas.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thanks for the response! I'll see which of those videos I haven't watched yet. I know you touched on stand location in a recent video. That helped clear up the confusion a little for me. Winds just seem to elude me for whatever reason.
Best thing to show you thermals, get some dry milk weed, and drop one from your tree stand.
@@waynegalyen6176 thanks for the tip. Now if I could just figure out where to find that.
Where I hunt, the land is pretty flat. Do thermals still matter?
@Fried Chicken yes, but he asked do they matter. On flat land, winds would matter more than thermals. Thermals are more existant, and a factor, in varying terrain, mountains, gullies, etc.
What kind of ladder stands are them brother??? I like them double steps great video brother y’all be safe and GOD BLESS y’all Amen 🙏
Hey brother
I shot my first doe this weekend over a vine scrape. she ran about 30 yards then tipped over!
That is awesome Carmine...CONGRATS!!😊 Love to hear that and really happy for you! Nice shot too 👌
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Thanks now its time to go after my buck!!!
In heels? You saying I gotta wear heels now?! Ok, if you say so.
The best spot on my property no matter what way the wind is blowing in this spot it is always out of the east. Frustrating at best
I'm trying to kill my first deer this year, on PA public land. Been watching your videos, thanks for these tips, keep em coming.
Thats awesome to hear...good luck! I will be hunting public land in PA next week...can't wait!
Check out Leatherneck outdoors on yutube. He is in PA, also.
Good luck and GOD BLESS
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Where at??
I hope you get one. stay away from other hunters and be patient.👍🦌
You know , I have noticed , the smoke from my cigarette rises in the morning and tends to drift downward in the afternoon.
I always set out a smoking scent stick when i sit. It tells you wind direction plus sends out scent, which also has to help mask you as well.
Watch it Jeff there’s a Mt lion stalking y’all lolllllllll
I cant win in afternoons in hill country. Seems the big bucks walk right in the bottom and are untouchable.
I wish the deer moved up high in afternoon but it seems they always walk in through the bottoms
Hunt deer, but order your food from Hello Fresh?
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