Balanced vs Unbalanced Cables
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Do you understand the difference between balanced and unbalanced audio cables? The practical differences reach far beyond whether your cable has two or three conductors. Mitch Gallagher explains the differences between balanced and unbalanced cables, and how they impact your audio workflow.
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I watched a million video and still didn't understand how the balanced cables pick the noise and canceling it that's not makes any sense for me what's the problem with the signal if carry two copied signal, and they still pick up noise who is going to cancel the noise I hope someone understood what I'm trying to say here
THANK YOU! Incredibly useful info and the first clear explanation I've seen on this topic. Support from the experts at Sweetwater is outstanding.
You're welcome Andrew! 😁🤘
Nice overview. I wish I had access to videos like this when I was young in the 1970s. I would have gone through life so much more informed. LOL
Thank you so much for making this video. I will forever share this video with anyone who gives me guff about using a DI box for unbalanced signals.
Good video. I was surprised that there was no mention of a DI box.
Thanks Mitch for the refresher for us audiophiles.... so a common ex. of this I noticed recently being 'pro-end' vs. 'consumer' (note apostrophes due grey area now...) are the Yam Montage balanced outputs vs. MODX's unbalanced offering. For me MODX is fine for what I use it for in studio (short run in to desk). 🍻👍
Useful info, good video!
Learned something new. Cool!
a simple but effective way to explain terms, pros, cons of balanced vs unbalanced,
Good vid. To the point and informative
Ah. Now I understand how the Cat 6 as an audio snake works with balanced signals. Useful and easy to understand video.
Perfect with no bullshit! Great video
Thanks
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Nice video dudes ❤️👌
Please explain how the original signal is inverted at the source.
I was wondering about this today. Get out of my brain Sweetwater
I love you said 180 degrees out of polarity and not 180 degrees out of phase.
Woah. Short, sweet, and straight to the point. It's only here that I got to understand the concept of Common Mode Rejection without even looking for it.
I love this video so much. You've earned my like.
Dear Mitch,
I think i am in love with you and the way you present facts with your very own down-to-earth touch.
Yours truely - Audio_n00b #1
How do you properly connect a multi effects unit to the PA system?
I can see one disllike? for what? so the best explaination.
Hi if anyone can please help me, i have a focusrite 8i6 and i have connected my Yamaha SX900 line outputs (unbalenced) to the line input (at the back) of the focusrite 8i6 with two unbalenced TS cable, now the focusrite 8i6 line inputs are balenced is this going create any problem the distance from the sx900 to the audio interface is around 4 feets
short, sweet nad to the point. So nothing I'll have to worry about on my end as a budding not even yet a wannabe audiophile but st ill good to understand.
What wizardry flips the phase going in and coming out? Do all products that have XLR jacks in them have to add internal circuitry to do this?
I have an outboard DAC that has both RCA (unbalanced) and XLR (balanced). I am connecting to a high end pre-amp that only has the standard unbalanced RCA's. If I use a XLR -> RCA converter, would I get a benefit from using the XLR ouputs on the DAC or should I just stick with the RCA's? By the way... great explanation and video on an often obscure topic. Thank you.
Sooooooo
Let’s say I have around 30 rack mount pieces; preamps, compression, EQ, ect......
Can I run between them, and my patch bays, mixers, with unbalanced chords/connections????
I also just bought a few RCA adapters, making RCA to TS guitar cables......will those works okay. I have tried yet.
Any answers help
Is 3.5mm trs in headphones balanced or unbalanced?
Alright here’s something that confuses me...
Let’s use abbreviation U for Unbalanced and B for Balanced.
Now let’s use that abbreviation for both cables and jacks.
Look at this list of abbreviation combos. The letters on the outside are for jacks and the middle is for the cable connecting them. Signal flow is from left to right. So for example: BBB will mean a Balanced Output jack sending a signal down a Balanced Cable going into the Balanced Input of a mixer.
What can be said about all these different combos?
BBB (clearly the best)
BBU (I think this might lose 3dB?)
BUB
BUU
UBB
UBU (I think this is technically no different from UUU)
UUB
UUU
I need to make a post on gearslutz or something sometime about this.
Question, is there a negative to using a balanced cable on an unbalanced source - for example electric guitar or bass?
Hello! The balanced cable can still work on an unbalanced source most of the time, but there's a chance it won't get grounded properly on one or both ends. The 3 parts of that cable are either tip, ring, sleeve (on a 1/4" cable), or also can be thought of as hot/cold/ground, or left/right/ground. So as long as the 2 parts that matter on an unbalanced cable (the audio signal and ground) make the right connections on either end, a balanced cable will sometimes still work. I'd still stick with using the appropriate cables in all situations, though. Just because something might could work, doesn't mean it should be done.
Thanks for the interest!
Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Sir What is the maximum height of an unbalanced microphone?
I have an XLR (male) TS hybrid instrument cable. Can I use this to connect straight to the house PA without using a DI box?
Hey, JT. Thank you for reaching out with your question about your cable. The cable you have is an unbalanced cable. You can hook that up to your PA for sure, but whether or not you should without a Di will raise more questions:
1) What are you hooking up with it?
2) How long is the cable run?
3) Which direction are you running the cable?
4) Which side is going to the board?
Thanks,
Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_embury@Sweetwater.com
one question, in a balanced cable, if the signals are inverted, how come they add together?
Only the negative signal is inverted when they are summed. If the signals were summed without inverting the negative signal they would cancel entirely (destructive interference) and you would only hear noise (It would sum the noise from both signals, increasing noise). Since the two signals are equal and opposite (180 degrees out of phase), and both signals carry the same induced noise (not equal and opposite noise), inverting the negative signal for summing both cancels out the noise in the summed signal (destructive interference) and reinforces the line signal through constructive interference.
How can you tell if you should be using a balanced or unbalanced cable for a specific device?
Hi, thanks for your interest! In general, pro audio equipment such as audio interfaces, mixers, studio monitors, etc. have balanced connections and should use balanced cables. Guitars, and their related items like pedals and amps, are typically unbalanced. Using an unbalanced cable for a balanced connection (e.g. from an audio interface to studio monitors) will usually pass audio, but there’s a higher risk of the cable picking up noise.
Hope this helps, and feel free to contact me directly with any further questions!
Caleb Lowrey, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1620, caleb_lowrey@sweetwater.com
So tell me where I'm going wrong. I own a pair of KRK6 monitors connected to my pc, I have been experiencing lots of interference noises every time I start gaming. I just bought a pair of balanced cables but now for the audio to sound good (BALANCED) I have to have the jack slightly pulled out of the speaker or the pc. What gives?
Not sure if you solved your issues but applying a Ferrite Core Cord Ring RFI EMI Noise Filter Suppressor
@@SWATTECHNOLOGIES ok I will look that up as I still do get that noise interference. Thanks for the tip
i have a dilema, i have a WA76 and a WA73, but i want to conect my WA76 to the Send/Return from my WA73 which both are unbalanced input/output, but the WA76 has balanced input/ouput, i currently conect them with balanced cables. am i doing this wrong? im asking because i dont want to damage my equipment.
Hey, J R. Thanks for reaching out. The WA73 has an insert section. I would run the WA76 with that using the balanced cables. There are other ways you can run it, but it really depends on your setup. You can safely run it using the outputs of the 73 to the 76 without any issues, though.
Thanks,
Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_embury@Sweetwater.com
is this the guy who keeps calling me about guitar promotions at 2am?
Can TRS to Dual TS cables work both ways!?..IE:The dual side coming from a non TRS double outputs stereo pedal going into the output of a Trs compliant. pedal?
Hi Patrick, great question! It really depends on what specifically you are connecting and whether the TRS input is mono balanced or stereo unbalanced. Regardless, the cable itself will not balance the signal, so connecting an unbalanced stereo output into a balanced input will still just result in unbalanced signal, regardless of whether or not the cable is balanced.
Feel free to call us for further clarification, thanks!
Jason Filloramo, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1281, Jason_Filloramo@sweetwater.com
So if I want to avoid any external noise issues, whatever the length of the cable, I would be better to work with BALANCED cables in all applications?
Hi xxx1sinner1xxx, great question! The quick answer is no. You only want to use balanced cables with devices designed to send balanced signals. Balancing is something done by the hardware sending and receiving the signal, not by the cable itself. The long answer can get kind of complicated, so to save you some reading, when in doubt, it is best practice to use a quality unbalanced/instrument style cable. In many cases, using a balanced TRS cable where an unbalanced cable should be used can cause significantly more noise and microphonics. For instance, a TRS cable with a guitar raises the noise floor significantly and adds a ton of extra cable movement noise as the player moves around.
I hope this helps! If you would like to dig further, give me a ring!
Drake Sobehrad, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3271, drake_sobehrad@sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater thanks very much, this is very helpful!
An unbalanced connector carries the same signal as a balanced. They both carry hot and cold signals. The difference is in the size wire it's carried. XLR connectors carry signals on pins 2,3. Both are same gauge wire and thus equal impedance to ground. Instrument cable carry signals on tip (wire) and shield . The shield is much lower in impedance to ground than the wire (tip) hence unbalanced. Why is this never mentioned on any balanced vs unbalanced videos is beyond me!
Why guitars still use an unbalanced output?
Probably because EVERYTHING in the signal chain would have to change to balanced with the instrument... pedals, amps, tuners, etc. There's just too much older gear out there that still works fine and sounds good that new things have to work seamlessly with. Also, not too many people need a 200-foot instrument cable.
I’m confused. @ 2:02 he says to keep unbalanced cables 30 ft or less while other CZcams videos says to keep unbalanced cables 15 ft or less. Which one is it. Please help.
Can someone explain this to me as you would explain it to a five year old :)
I watched a million video and still didn't understand how the balanced cables pick the noise and canceling it that's not makes any sense for me what's the problem with the signal if carry two copied signal, and they still pick up noise who is going to cancel the noise I hope someone understood what I'm trying to say here
All electric is negative... it's electrons
@Google user electrons are negatively polerized
@Google user it's to keep the electrons flowing more to allow the battery output more energy
Slow down!
to much information
Just reading off a script,very obvious