Doom (2016) Ultra-Nightmare Monster Tier List (ft. Peter)

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  • Join us through an ultra-nightmarish journey where we'll analyse each major fight in the game and rank monsters from most threatening to least.
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  • @_antares031
    @_antares031 Před 4 lety +2039

    00:57 Level 01: The UAC
    02:45 Level 02: Resource Operations
    05:03 Level 03: Foundry
    07:48 Level 04: Argent Facility
    09:27 Level 05: Argent Tower
    11:32 Level 06: Kadingir Sanctum
    14:35 Level 07: Argent Facility (Destroyed)
    16:38 Level 08: Advanced Research Complex
    19:23 Level 09: Lazarus Labs
    22:02 Level 10: Titan's Realm
    23:11 Level 11: The Necropolis
    25:02 Level 12: VEGA Central Processing
    25:21 Level 13: Argent D'Nur
    26:12 Summary

    • @salt_factory7566
      @salt_factory7566 Před 4 lety +14

      Wow, new world record! Byte's gonna eat his heart out...

    • @wurst920
      @wurst920 Před 4 lety +8

      you’re a good man, thank you

    • @captainjurgh8142
      @captainjurgh8142 Před 4 lety +10

      Nice to see you, antares. Also super-thanks for bookmarking the video!

    • @nowaywithyoueveragai
      @nowaywithyoueveragai Před 4 lety +1

      So beyond a tier list, this is also a fast resumed tactical/analysis run for those who want to try that difficulty?

    • @tanekheath5323
      @tanekheath5323 Před 4 lety +4

      Ive only gotten to argent facility on ultra nightmare before i died to platforming

  • @skuller5553
    @skuller5553 Před 4 lety +4192

    Revenants usually scream at the Doomslayer, insulting him, hurting him in ways no other demon could.
    SS-tier for sure

    • @booradley6832
      @booradley6832 Před 4 lety +262

      Plot twist:
      The revenant and the doomslayer were involved for a long time and then broke up. The doomslayer is like this because he's heartbroken, and the revenant is screaming about alimony.

    • @insertcoolnamehere937
      @insertcoolnamehere937 Před 4 lety +13

      Oof

    • @papounator8843
      @papounator8843 Před 4 lety +106

      @@booradley6832 They're still fighting over custody of Daisy's head...

    • @vladmirredtitanium8994
      @vladmirredtitanium8994 Před 4 lety +4

      @@booradley6832 +[

    • @Djent7779
      @Djent7779 Před 4 lety +5

      Doomslayer is a retatded story. Its doomguy. Hes a nirmal marine bethdoom sucks

  • @calebbryan840
    @calebbryan840 Před 3 lety +1352

    Later half of this video:
    "Imps are a nusiance and not dangerous"
    "Tier S"

    • @Gemidori
      @Gemidori Před 3 lety +119

      "Hell Razers still cannot aim."
      "Tier C."

    • @claytonpactol8851
      @claytonpactol8851 Před 3 lety +76

      "They are alone and easily killed."
      "Tier C."

    • @michaelzhang9806
      @michaelzhang9806 Před 3 lety +100

      “Imps hit me once during this level”
      “Tier S”

    • @cubedpotatoeshd2479
      @cubedpotatoeshd2479 Před 3 lety +69

      "Lost Souls don't even appear"
      "Tier B"

    • @Agnes135
      @Agnes135 Před 3 lety +9

      How the fuck are they tier S

  • @MechagirlSachiko
    @MechagirlSachiko Před 4 lety +2629

    The spiderdemon took offense to being called an F tier enemy, so she pumped iron like heck and became an ABSOLUTE UNIT for her 2016 debut.

  • @BennetCRadey
    @BennetCRadey Před 4 lety +821

    Cyberdemon: *exist*
    Decino: A bit challenging, but not too bad.
    Imp: *exist*
    Decino: Now this is an Avengers-level threat.

    • @danielm.595
      @danielm.595 Před 3 lety +62

      Well, it's one giant, relatively slow moving target with attacks which you can learn to evade with a bit of time vs monkey demons that can attack you from the other side of the map, sometimes with sniper precision, for "small" but, depending on the quantity, quick amount of damage.

    • @WillieManga
      @WillieManga Před 2 lety +18

      Since their damage is ampd up in UN mode, are fast and can overwhelm you in swarms, Tier S. They only are less threatening when you can cover more ground.

    • @purplefloyd1513
      @purplefloyd1513 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Hes not at all joking if you havent tried UN. Personally I think the early game Imps are harder than all the other bosses and enemies, its just not nearly as punishing to die to them when they are still dangerous (lvl 5/6 and under)

    • @coldwarfare1429
      @coldwarfare1429 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@purplefloyd1513 I never found them difficult to dodge their attacks.

  • @qbmac2306
    @qbmac2306 Před 4 lety +1896

    Also F Tier: Me playing Doom on Ultra-Nightmare

    • @irrelevant_channel
      @irrelevant_channel Před 4 lety +53

      You are not a demon

    • @Maggerama
      @Maggerama Před 4 lety +110

      @@irrelevant_channel Anyone who has an anime avatar is a demon to me.

    • @irrelevant_channel
      @irrelevant_channel Před 4 lety +37

      @@Maggerama make a little sense to me it depends on the anime

    • @abd-qadirgilani8871
      @abd-qadirgilani8871 Před 4 lety +20

      Nah fam, me on ULTRA-FRUGGING-VIOLENCE. Which is weird because I've beaten pretty much every DooM game I have on Ultra Violence no problem. Not this game tho for some reason.

    • @Vordikk
      @Vordikk Před 4 lety +8

      @@irrelevant_channel so tier Z

  • @PeterLawrenceYT
    @PeterLawrenceYT Před 4 lety +1517

    Samuel Hayden got no junk in the trunk

  • @Shellhitsky
    @Shellhitsky Před 4 lety +656

    "Barons killed me a lot even on a regular difficulty, I guess they are like ss tier on the highest one"
    "C-tier"
    "Oh"

    • @dominantwolf4593
      @dominantwolf4593 Před 4 lety +47

      We are mere casual players to these crazy masochists 😜

    • @DaRealScout
      @DaRealScout Před 4 lety +1

      You Mean B?

    • @dylanwhite6539
      @dylanwhite6539 Před 3 lety +16

      Honestly in Nightmare I’ve been killed by a lot of demons, never a Barron though. They are tanky but I’ve always been ready for them.

    • @space_gamer9146
      @space_gamer9146 Před 3 lety +9

      also, imps are so high, when any enemy except the imp can stunned and killed with ease.

    • @FoxIord
      @FoxIord Před 3 lety +12

      @@dominantwolf4593 I'm a pretty casual player, but I always found Barons really easy. I haven't played Ultra Nightmare because I enjoy my sanity, but they never felt dangerous to me on Ultra Violence, which is my go-to difficulty.

  • @fifo5553
    @fifo5553 Před 4 lety +565

    13:20
    "They can be a bit scary, but you're scarier"
    Isn't that...... the whole concept of DOOM 2016?

    • @DemonDiscoJockey
      @DemonDiscoJockey Před 3 lety +45

      Thats the whole concept of DOOM period.

    • @cillianwatters5619
      @cillianwatters5619 Před 3 lety +25

      @@DemonDiscoJockey except Doom 3, but I think they wanted to experiment making Doom horror for that game as an experiment

    • @engineergaming2549
      @engineergaming2549 Před 3 lety +7

      @@cillianwatters5619 very smart of you heavy, where do you want me to place the dispenser?

    • @enzoborghetto
      @enzoborghetto Před 3 lety +3

      Doom is a horror game were you aare the monster

    • @pexoto5093
      @pexoto5093 Před rokem +1

      yes and i think thats beautiful

  • @beastofbeasts2433
    @beastofbeasts2433 Před 4 lety +1051

    13:52 "Revenants do nothing, they just waste your ammo. "
    *Revenant will remember that*

    • @PenniBlaster
      @PenniBlaster Před 4 lety +68

      Just wait until doom eternal comes out, play the multiplayer, and show the power of revenant.

    • @rorakee
      @rorakee Před 4 lety +20

      bro revenant is crying rn why would you say that???

    • @zer02wo85
      @zer02wo85 Před 4 lety +32

      *sad doot*

    • @dussaal
      @dussaal Před 4 lety +12

      *Plutonia flashbacks*

    • @ronandos2259
      @ronandos2259 Před 3 lety +7

      Playing doom eternal ultra nightmare :revenant remembered that:

  • @JJRy
    @JJRy Před 4 lety +461

    Throughout THE ENTIRE GAME, the Imps are the biggest liability! Because they throw fireballs from across the room like a pro NBA player, but the worst part about them is that they keep moving around just like you, like some enemies are too big not to notice, others need to get close to even remotely do any damage, but not the Imps, and they come in large numbers. While you're dealing with one, another is certainly charging a fireball at you.

  • @zombyjano
    @zombyjano Před 4 lety +258

    The revanents are so weak in this game that it hurts. From my experience they spend most of their time just screaming at you then actually attacking.

    • @Lattamonsteri
      @Lattamonsteri Před 4 lety +17

      That's why they're my favourite demons x)

    • @punctuationman334
      @punctuationman334 Před 4 lety +3

      Revrsal reminds me of anti sjws as well.....

    • @punctuationman334
      @punctuationman334 Před 4 lety +2

      Revrsal sjws and anti sjws are annoying in my opinion.

    • @limpetarch98k
      @limpetarch98k Před 4 lety +1

      Ahhh those SUCKERS

    • @danielm.595
      @danielm.595 Před 3 lety +10

      That actually makes sense, they are "volunteers" UAC soldiers who were so horribly mutated by the UAC, that even even they got hit by the Hell's energy wave, the pain of their mutations is so intense that it breaks through (I think that their description also says something like this)

  • @Dracomut
    @Dracomut Před 4 lety +232

    Decino: This level is a joke
    Also Decino: (Dies on said level)

  • @BigHailFan
    @BigHailFan Před 4 lety +1424

    You put Unwilling in Z Tier, but had them T-posing. That should put them in top tier instantly.

    • @m-w-y7325
      @m-w-y7325 Před 4 lety +85

      When you kill them soo quickly and easily that they start T-posing.

    • @PeterLawrenceYT
      @PeterLawrenceYT Před 4 lety +67

      Technically it's an A-pose 😉

    • @howstressful3611
      @howstressful3611 Před 4 lety +2

      unwilling not in Z-, 0/10

    • @BigHailFan
      @BigHailFan Před 4 lety +1

      @@PeterLawrenceYT Then I'll just rip off their head and a leg.

    • @James-oj6ru
      @James-oj6ru Před 4 lety +3

      BigHailFan
      Still an T-pose my dude, except manlet size

  • @_davidp
    @_davidp Před 4 lety +680

    Should have included 'world' as a monster. Amount of times I've fallen to my death.. ugh! Glad to see the imp up high - causes more deaths than any other!

    • @cheatsykoopa98
      @cheatsykoopa98 Před 4 lety +24

      ikr, imagine fall damage in doom

    • @TychoHoward
      @TychoHoward Před 4 lety +56

      He did early on. Platforming is SS-tier.

    • @cheatsykoopa98
      @cheatsykoopa98 Před 4 lety +49

      @Manek Iridius hurr durr elitist bs

    • @doommaker4000
      @doommaker4000 Před 4 lety +46

      @Manek Iridius I wanted to give like cause first sentence. And then I saw the rest of the comment.

    • @ihavevisionfearme
      @ihavevisionfearme Před 4 lety +5

      Barrels and my grenades + rockets killed me more then anything else.

  • @tovlasek
    @tovlasek Před 4 lety +166

    I'm so proud of Spider Mastermind! She finally did it!

  • @TheUndeadslayer221
    @TheUndeadslayer221 Před 4 lety +38

    Additional note: I once managed to get outside the Cyber Demon's wall that he puts up when he corners you so he can throw lines of fire at you (the texture for the rocks is FLAT when viewed from the sides, meaning he's just throwing up some wallpaper with rock textures on them). He can still throw fire at you when you are on the outside of his little cone, but you WILL have more room to dodge.

  • @TARINunit9
    @TARINunit9 Před 4 lety +741

    I don't really agree with this theory that "Samuel Hayden" is supposed to be initialized to "S. Hayden" and sound like Satan. Its far simpler etymology is, it's a variant spelling of an Old English/Middle German name "Haydn"/"Heiden", meaning "heathen".
    Bonus fact: it was previously used in the Doom 3 novels, for a character simply named "General Hayden".

    • @reloadpsi
      @reloadpsi Před 4 lety +27

      The most telling is that Hayden was originally gonna be the surname of your villainous CO in the old DOOM 4. (EDIT: My bad, General Hayden is from the DOOM 3 novels. Still interesting they went with that though...)

    • @MosoKaiser
      @MosoKaiser Před 4 lety +39

      That does however sound quite close to Satan in Arabic: Shayṭān

    • @BusinessZeus
      @BusinessZeus Před 4 lety +4

      There was a character named Hayden in Doom 3's alpha but they both have no connections

    • @reloadpsi
      @reloadpsi Před 4 lety +40

      @Rishi Rajan He's not Satan. He's just got a name that's an on-the-nose way of saying "I might be a bad guy." Doctor Betruger never committed tax fraud either, but he did do far worse things and his name just happened to mean "fraudster" in German; fictional characters are just usually given names for their meaning.

    • @alexismedina8065
      @alexismedina8065 Před 4 lety +23

      Samuel Hayden is obviously a reference to Sam Hyde.

  • @comments473
    @comments473 Před 4 lety +333

    Spider Mastermind in the thumbnail: SILENCE DOOMER

  • @mikerueffer579
    @mikerueffer579 Před 4 lety +381

    Spider mastermind Doom 1: Complete joke
    Spider mastermind Doom 2: utter failure
    Spider mastermind Doom 2016: I am become death destroyer of Ultra nightmare runs

    • @dylanwhite6539
      @dylanwhite6539 Před 3 lety +4

      Mike Rueffer the amount of time I’ve played that boss fight for funsies on nightmare I think if I get there I’ll be fine

    • @SoldierOfFate
      @SoldierOfFate Před 3 lety +10

      It doesn't help that her attacks are FAR more damaging than the classic variant's. Not to mention if you don't get off the ground when she electrifies the arena, your ass is toast in literally 2 seconds.

    • @Giant_SewerRat
      @Giant_SewerRat Před 3 lety +6

      Spider mastermind Doom Eternal: *_*doesn't exist*_*

    • @iamafuckingfailure
      @iamafuckingfailure Před 3 lety +16

      @@Giant_SewerRat the codex says that the aracnotrons from eternal are made from the remains of the spider mastermind, so tecnically every aracnotron is just an alive chunk of her corpse, which means the spider mastermind IS in eternal, just that its divided into aracnotrons and dead...
      Back to Tier F

    • @ultraspinalki11
      @ultraspinalki11 Před 3 lety +1

      @@iamafuckingfailure I hope Eternal gets an update where you can fight Spider Masterminds, like the classic Doom games where there were more than 1 Masterminds.

  • @Xeotroid
    @Xeotroid Před 4 lety +110

    The Unwilling might be tier Z, but that A-pose the one in the icon is doing is too powerful to be contained.

    • @sninctbur3726
      @sninctbur3726 Před 4 lety

      That's why they were moved to F tier in the end.

    • @tizianomora7249
      @tizianomora7249 Před rokem

      The longer unwilling is on t pose the stronger it Will become

  • @sparkly9294
    @sparkly9294 Před 4 lety +339

    I always found that the viewmodels look weird when centered. They're not as minimal as those in the original Doom or Quake

    • @USSMariner
      @USSMariner Před 4 lety +81

      This. I tried switching to centered view models and found that I started taking damage because the thing takes up too much of my forward view. Eternal looks like it reduces the Centerview size.

    • @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903
      @sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 Před 4 lety +68

      Now there should be an option to unlock classic weapon SPRITES

    • @SentientHoodii
      @SentientHoodii Před 4 lety +16

      @@USSMariner i think it has something to do with the original HUD. I cant play 2016 or Eternal with center view. But rock og just fine.

    • @BierBart12
      @BierBart12 Před 4 lety +11

      But then you have something like the Original, a rocket launcher in TF2 that's got a large centered viewmodel. Never had any problems with it, but with DOOM's, I do.

    • @USSMariner
      @USSMariner Před 4 lety +13

      I increased the FOV to 120 and the issue went away.

  • @iamdopeasfcuk
    @iamdopeasfcuk Před 4 lety +52

    23:28 I'm surprised not that many people know that you can shotgun blast that fireball back at the boss. boss is a piece of cake once you know that.

    • @DuckAlertBeats
      @DuckAlertBeats Před 4 lety +8

      I didn't know that..

    • @Destro65
      @Destro65 Před 4 lety

      You can do it with most weapons i think

    • @vadernation1233
      @vadernation1233 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Yeah I genuinely don’t understand the hell guard’s placement and hype a lot of people give them. The cyber demon gives me hell but I don’t really like using BFG so maybe that’s why. The hell guards are so easy to beat even without BFG or using very smart weapon combos. I just quick swapped super shotgun and gauss cannon and only used those two and took them out very quickly. Dodging their attacks is also a lot easier with the air control rune which I like to run.

  • @minmus410
    @minmus410 Před 3 lety +18

    "Imps are not dangerous anymore, you're getting tanky."
    "Tier S."

  • @Buff-Skeleton
    @Buff-Skeleton Před 4 lety +382

    Man, I rank pinkies much higher on my personal list -- those goddamn things always seem to get me with their outrageous, seemingly-impossible damage radius. I swear I'm like way, way clear of their entire body half the time and STILL take damage. But I hardly ever use the stun bomb! Perhaps that's my problem.
    I'd also put the Cyber Mancubus higher solely because it has a real skill for catching me off-guard at super long range in the later maps. I tend to rely (probably too much) on Rich Get Richer, so this often totally throws me off when my armor suddenly gets deleted and I don't even know where the fucker is yet. Dirty bastards.
    I have yet to complete Ultra-Nightmare. Farthest I ever got was the destroyed Argent Facility -- got one-shotted by a Cacodemon in the first real fight and was super pissed. I'd also put Cacos higher on my list because of their uncanny ability to one-shot me even from a good distance if I don't have full health and some armor. Most of my late-game experience comes from regular Nightmare practice runs where nerves aren't as much of a factor. That said, the Siphon grenade + EP2 *is* totally hilariously broken most of the time and makes you basically unstoppable if you are careful, so I think once I can reach Titan's Realm I'll be set.
    Hell Guards are absolute bastards, though, but less so if you switch from Gauss to Plasma once two of them show up. Managed to beat them without dying for the first time the other day when I did that! Gauss is really good for quickly evading the melee attacks when facing the first one, but you need the higher rate of fire to detonate those charge-up yellow orb things once two of them are going after you, especially since one always seems to be spinning around shitting fire everywhere.
    When it comes to SS-tier, I'd rank the very first fight of the game without hesitation. Hands down the hardest part by far for me, mainly because the unupgraded shotgun is so unbelievably bad and there's no good place to set up a defensive position. You just have to keep moving and hope you don't back into a charged-up plasma ball or a sneaky imp. Probably like 90% of my deaths have been right in that godforsaken arena. Thankfully it's the very first one!

    • @U99DrunkDinosaur
      @U99DrunkDinosaur Před 4 lety +38

      You know what bothers me about pinkies the most? You can't consistently double jump over them. It would be cool and spectacular combat maneuver, stun+double barrel is so boring in comparison.

    • @Snavels
      @Snavels Před 4 lety +13

      Shooting their backs makes it so so much easier, the problem is I have to Matador them into the wall, which requires me to stand still for a few seconds, which is something I absolutely cannot do on nightmare.

    • @Buff-Skeleton
      @Buff-Skeleton Před 4 lety +17

      @@U99DrunkDinosaur I wanna see imps riding them into battle.

    • @nicelittlekiller9121
      @nicelittlekiller9121 Před 4 lety

      В тачанке is ur name Tachanka from R6S

  • @MichelleSleeper
    @MichelleSleeper Před 4 lety +518

    If the Tyrant in Doom Eternal doesn't have juicy buns, the game will be F Tier!

    • @spingebinge
      @spingebinge Před 4 lety +102

      Dont Worry, He Has 4K Juicy Cheeks.

    • @AquaGaming1607
      @AquaGaming1607 Před 4 lety +38

      Random Person B U T M Y C H E E K S A R E C L A P P I N G

    • @meyes5671
      @meyes5671 Před 4 lety +31

      Can confirm that he still has ass cheeks.

    • @nucleus691
      @nucleus691 Před 4 lety +18

      Pretty sure they are even juicier than in 90s Doom

    • @DreadnoughtDT
      @DreadnoughtDT Před 4 lety +5

      Pssh. Imagine, trying to check out the ass of a demon. Heathens. *sideways glance at female Diablo from D3*

  • @firestarr5812
    @firestarr5812 Před 3 lety +6

    #1 thing I learned from this video; I should be using the stun-shot on the plasma rifle.

  • @ProtoBlueGaming
    @ProtoBlueGaming Před 2 lety +13

    Imps went from pixelated, mobile turrets, to agile and punishing nightmares.
    Edit: And then Cacodemons evolved from red floating cute balls to horrifying flying monstrosities that can freaking annihilate you with just one bite

  • @Camper_Lv
    @Camper_Lv Před 4 lety +82

    I still remember people being shocked about revenant having jetpack and everyone panicking that he gonna be op.

    • @lugbzurg8987
      @lugbzurg8987 Před 4 lety +13

      Ironically, I actually find them less-threatening now. Them being able to go up for a few seconds has nothing on relentless homing 'sploder balls.

  • @Cvoxalury
    @Cvoxalury Před 4 lety +147

    I'm digging this longer, more detailed per-level overview. Makes a bit more sense than previous summarised tier lists.
    I find 2016's enemy design to be just beautiful. While a few enemies become worhtless and pathetic, the fights felt so well structured that the cannon fodder presense was still valued.
    Also I mistakenly never bothered with rune challenges after a couple of first ones, and mistakenly again thought I won't use the gauss gun ("a sniping weapon? In DOOM? why would I") and never discovered that siege mode... yes, for real.
    That being said... no shoutout for UnnamedAI? The killer of the most?!

    • @decino
      @decino  Před 4 lety +36

      UnnamedAI is dreadful, but the "World" monster is the worst.

    • @Annokh
      @Annokh Před 4 lety +10

      What is UnnamedAI? My memory of this game is very blurry...

    • @decino
      @decino  Před 4 lety +37

      @@Annokh Some monsters, for some reason, are not named on player tombstones. From the top of my head: Summoners, Pinkies, Spectres and (Cyber) Mancubi. They appear as "UnnamedAI".

  • @TheRealNormanBates
    @TheRealNormanBates Před 4 lety +76

    17:03 “Samuel Hayden.... S. Hayden... Satan”
    You can _also_ get Sam Hayn or Samhain.

    • @supra107
      @supra107 Před 4 lety +9

      Or Sam Hyde, the famous mass shooter that is definitely not just an Internet comedian.

    • @demogorgonzola
      @demogorgonzola Před 4 lety +4

      Or Santa... [uncomfortably looking at Monroville avatar]

    • @TheRealNormanBates
      @TheRealNormanBates Před 4 lety

      DemoGorgonZola why do you think I bring coal to all the bad kids?
      It’s so they’ll _burn_ better! _HA ha HA ha!_ (ahem) ... sorry... I meant _HO HO ho!_

    • @demogorgonzola
      @demogorgonzola Před 4 lety +1

      @@TheRealNormanBates Ho, ho, ho... and lol, have a song mush-up. :)
      🎶 I am the god of hell fire and I bring you: coal! The night Santa went crazy... picked up a flamethrower and barbecued Blitzen. 🎶

    • @TheRealNormanBates
      @TheRealNormanBates Před 4 lety +1

      DemoGorgonZola (starts head banging)
      (Hat falls off)
      (Puts hat back on)
      (Continues banging)

  • @darknewbie342
    @darknewbie342 Před 4 lety +21

    “The revenents are just sad doots”

  • @AqeelAhmed-wr6yg
    @AqeelAhmed-wr6yg Před 4 lety +70

    Next Video: Is it Possible to beat Doom 2016 Without harming any demons?

    • @buggy730
      @buggy730 Před 2 lety

      Even if we not taking it to consideration the boss fights, we got another problem at hand, the first arena, you cannot progress unless you kill every single imp. this is only for the lower difficulties we're not taking super nightmare into consideration.

  • @Prodawg
    @Prodawg Před 4 lety +172

    Remember when revenants posed a threat lmao
    Guess have Plutonia they got cocky

    • @Dracomut
      @Dracomut Před 4 lety +29

      It certainly shows it is their homing missiles that were the main threat and not really the revenants themselves

    • @Prodawg
      @Prodawg Před 4 lety

      after*
      God dammit why do i realise that when i wake up

    • @tirefirejones561
      @tirefirejones561 Před 3 lety +2

      Those things are a joke to me, I see them and just think of “Doot”

    • @SoldierOfFate
      @SoldierOfFate Před 3 lety +4

      Revenants alone weren't much of a threat in the classic games if you had something more than a pistol. The problem is that they ALMOST ALWAYS came in large angry swarms.

  • @criminalcuteness3952
    @criminalcuteness3952 Před 4 lety +22

    Imps aren’t dangerous anymore, you’re getting tanky... Tier S XD

  • @rohitchaoji
    @rohitchaoji Před 4 lety +6

    I like how you've analyzed combat situations and placed them according to those. I've noticed that more than individual enemy types, enemy combinations and the environment plays a much bigger role in determining how hard a fight will be.

  • @Maggerama
    @Maggerama Před 4 lety +22

    I love it how you take enemy postitioning throughout them levels into account. Great job, as always.

  • @T-West
    @T-West Před 4 lety +58

    The hardest monster is the shield-zombie when you haven't played 2016 in a while, then mix up your the hotkeys for Plasma Gun -> Stun Bomb and Rocket Launcher -> shoot shield while standing directly in front of it. And almost as difficult as platforming are glory kills. Too many times I've had a glory kill end up glitching me out of bounds, where I fall to my death.

    • @5udimax
      @5udimax Před 4 lety +8

      Huh? Never had a glory kill glitch me out of existence.

    • @chainsawplayin
      @chainsawplayin Před 4 lety +1

      @@5udimax The Foundry has those thin platforms with stairs, you can glitch through one of these and fall into a lava pit.

    • @chainsawplayin
      @chainsawplayin Před 4 lety

      @Mr. TAD Same, but it happened nonetheless.

    • @hatefuckable
      @hatefuckable Před 4 lety +4

      F for glory kill clipping deaths. A glory kill on Foundry tossed me in the lava on UNM. I will never forgive.

    • @dreddnott
      @dreddnott Před 4 lety

      It's a great speedrun technique

  • @puffer_frog
    @puffer_frog Před 4 lety +55

    My prediction for Doom eternal tier list lol:
    Imps: C tier - they used to be tough but now, they are easy fodder for the chainsaw and can be easily dispatched with new numbers of ways like the blood punch and ice grenades
    Zombieman blaster: D tier - they are as unthreatening as before
    Shield soldier: F+ tier. Now they are basically walking barrel bombs
    Revenant: F tier - they do even less in eternal lol. But battlemode in the other hand...
    Gargoyle: B tier - they like imps, but more annoying, mobile and damaging
    Hell knight/death knight: B tier - pretty much the same, other than a few projectile attacks
    Baron: B tier - also much the same
    Mancubus/cyber mancubus: S tier - now they appear everywhere and worse, they can corner you into small areas. The worst parts are in the nekrovol argent tower where two cybers gang up on you in a small arena and it gets much worse in the icon of sin fight
    Pinky: Upgraded to B tier - it's harder to deal with them now there is no stun grenade and you have to rely on the long cooldowns of ice grenades.
    Caco and pain elemental: D tier - ballista bait
    Arachnotron: B tier - they are annoying to deal with, running away and weaving your attacks. Good thing is that they lack close range offenses and you can dispatch them as they get close
    Prowler: A tier - the living manifestation of 'owae wa mou, shindeiru'
    Whiplash: C tier - might be hard and fast at first but are quickly downed with meathook and ssg
    Makyr drone: F tier - basically free ammo
    Marauder: SS tier - motherfucker forces you into a parry riposte game and if you fuck up, you die. You run out of ammo? Good luck finding a zombie to saw before the guy shoots you with 10000 lasers. And OH GOD THAT FUCKING DOG
    Gladiator: B tier - his attacks are very telegraphed but your nerves are elevated and can mess up your reading.
    Khan makyr: A tier - quite easy to mess up, when shit is flying left and right but once you get the mood of firing her up with micro rockets, popping a drone for ammo and repeating, its doable.
    Icon of sin: S tier - you can't just bullet sponge him and you have to run around his minions and attacks like an idiot to reach his hittable weakspots. And it's freaking mancubus country up in here..
    Gun zombie: A tier - these guys can spawn behind you and clip you very badly
    Possessed: don't even bother
    Doom hunter: B tier - really nothing much to be worried about, other than the weird minigame you have to dance around for. The only thing to worry is other demons forcing you off and letting him recharge
    Delete with crucible tier: cyberdemon and archvile

    • @dr.autismgod3538
      @dr.autismgod3538 Před 4 lety +2

      Pain Elemental was challenging for me

    • @FelipePetersBerchielli
      @FelipePetersBerchielli Před 4 lety +2

      @@dr.autismgod3538 yep, by no means Cacodemon and Pain Elemental can be put at the same rank, Cacodemons are maybe easier than in Doom 2016, their bite still hurts tho, Pain Elementals are much more tanky and smart and deal more damage, luckly Lost Soul is broken, but once it is fixed they will be even harder

    • @dr.autismgod3538
      @dr.autismgod3538 Před 4 lety +2

      @@FelipePetersBerchielli Cacodemon's bite is way worse than their blast lol.

    • @blackpants7385
      @blackpants7385 Před 4 lety +1

      Irrelevant to the discussion but:
      *Omae wa mou shindeiru

    • @Gamer-xd6iv
      @Gamer-xd6iv Před 4 lety +7

      Bruh you can kill a pinkie in eternal with a single blood punch

  • @NightlifeSux
    @NightlifeSux Před 4 lety +58

    Peter sounds like he's been hitting the anti-anxiety medication hard.

    • @PeterLawrenceYT
      @PeterLawrenceYT Před 4 lety +31

      Oh I wish. I'm on Elvanse and the side effect IS anxiety.

    • @TheAsymmetrical
      @TheAsymmetrical Před 4 lety +11

      @@PeterLawrenceYT fellow elvanse boy, how long you been taking it? I had mad jitters the first month or so but it subsided. Mid morning exercise goes a long way to diffuse some of the initial onset if u take it in the morning

  • @Focusbreak-Habeeb
    @Focusbreak-Habeeb Před 4 lety +49

    My experience with Ultra Nightmare is basically trying it like 4 times, getting a few hours in and then dying in the most stupid way possible... I then curl into a ball and cry for a while.

    • @tanekheath5323
      @tanekheath5323 Před 4 lety +4

      I do that last part without trying ultra nightmare, but ultra nightmare is a pain because im bad

    • @user-pf8hs7nv6z
      @user-pf8hs7nv6z Před 4 lety +1

      Finished it from second playthrough.
      Level 03: Foundry
      kicks ass. But if you utilize all the secrets and go for broken rune combos, the rest of the game is easy. I finished it with just w+m1 mt minigun rgr+eu runes and leech grenade.

    • @Focusbreak-Habeeb
      @Focusbreak-Habeeb Před 4 lety +3

      @@user-pf8hs7nv6z thing is, I keep choking at one point or another. One too many missed shots, or a missed jump or just something dumb happens and I'm dead. I haven't fully given up yet though. One day I'll beat it.

    • @tan020399
      @tan020399 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Focusbreak-Habeeb did you still beat it after 7 months

  • @purplekey9330
    @purplekey9330 Před 4 lety +173

    Stuck with an early morning anxiety attack, but now there's new Decino. So things are a bit better

    • @PeterLawrenceYT
      @PeterLawrenceYT Před 4 lety +20

      I feel ya, I really do. I hope you get better soon!

    • @purplekey9330
      @purplekey9330 Před 4 lety +9

      @@PeterLawrenceYT Thanks man, appreciate it

    • @NateNintendo
      @NateNintendo Před 4 lety +2

      Feel better man. Haven’t had one in years but Anxiety Attacks are awful. 🙏🏽

    • @guaceldono7231
      @guaceldono7231 Před 4 lety +3

      Switch on Doom and pretend your worries are the demons. I’ve found it to be a good way to cool off, especially when you glory kill them

    • @MrPiragon
      @MrPiragon Před 4 lety

      choopy bohn suck it up snowflake!

  • @thegamegrumpsletsplayofmaj5727

    Doom Eternal: *I sleep*
    Video 4 years after Doom 2016 was released: *Real shit*

  • @wunnup3229
    @wunnup3229 Před rokem +15

    I'd love it if he did a monster tier list for Doom 64.

    • @SoldierOfFate
      @SoldierOfFate Před rokem +3

      Lost Souls and Pain Elementals: Tier SSS
      Everything else: F

  • @TheBellTolls
    @TheBellTolls Před 4 lety +199

    No one:
    Peter: mancubee

    • @lqu
      @lqu Před 4 lety +36

      Me, an intellectual: man-cube

    • @nuclearshorts1243
      @nuclearshorts1243 Před 4 lety +13

      Mancu🅱️

    • @shadysands3793
      @shadysands3793 Před 4 lety +9

      **bzzzzzzzzzhzzzhhzzzzzzz** **shoots honey that slows doomguy**

    • @Snypor
      @Snypor Před 4 lety +13

      More than one Mancubus = "Mancubi" plural.
      Yes, I ruined the joke to explain something, but the "Nobody: " meme is so stale.

    • @Cvoxalury
      @Cvoxalury Před 4 lety

      @@Snypor I don't really agree seeing how it's a made-up word, but I totally accept others using "mancubi". And I see where the analogy is coming from, but it's not always right either (like some people use "octopi" when it's Greek).
      ... unless it's also "mancubi" in some expanded universe lore? Please say if so.

  • @LanceOmikron
    @LanceOmikron Před 4 lety +31

    Nice to see the OG Doom final boss become threatening at last. Hopefully she'll appear in Eternal. ^_^

    • @patcatzgames9792
      @patcatzgames9792 Před 4 lety +7

      Eh, I dont think someone or something surviving from having its brains blown to pieces by a point blabk bfg blast. As far I know, the ressurected Icon of Sin is pretty much the final baddie

    • @LanceOmikron
      @LanceOmikron Před 4 lety

      @@patcatzgames9792 There can be other spider masterminds, and they don't have to be the final boss.

    • @andybogdan4380
      @andybogdan4380 Před 4 lety +4

      @@LanceOmikron the arachnotrons take her place as uncommon enemies.

    • @axalotalgod4537
      @axalotalgod4537 Před 3 lety

      N o

  • @nucleus691
    @nucleus691 Před 4 lety +12

    "Doom: Eternal around the corner" Tell that to all the playthroughs of it on youtube holding what I desire most right there where I cant have it

  • @walkingthree-leggedchair9219

    Doesn’t that one part in level 11, look like “Dead Simple?”

  • @alexalcalaortiz368
    @alexalcalaortiz368 Před 4 lety +40

    the most threatening monster is definitely the ledges and railings
    especially if your game is running at 200 fps

    • @dot0l
      @dot0l Před 4 lety +9

      there's nothing more epic than getting yeeted off the map because you hit a ledge with your pinky toe.

  • @FelipeJaquez
    @FelipeJaquez Před 4 lety +77

    I'm guessing Doom 2016 is a worthy successor considering Decino likes it.

    • @decino
      @decino  Před 4 lety +60

      It's pretty epic.

    • @DanielEhlmann
      @DanielEhlmann Před 4 lety +3

      decino notice me elder doom god senpai

    • @papayer
      @papayer Před 4 lety +13

      While I thoroughly enjoyed my time with it and am currently replaying it reading all the codex entries and trying to absorb as much of the story bits as I can so I can get my bearings for Eternal, I will concede the game has balance issues and verges on being too easy, repetitive and shallow most of the time, especially during the third leg of the run. Eternal outclasses it in that respect and makes it a challenging experience from the start and only keeps escalating further.
      Still better than 3 for me.

  • @Requiem100500
    @Requiem100500 Před 4 lety +9

    "These summoners spawn in Hell Knights"
    They what now?

  • @geogaming4483
    @geogaming4483 Před 3 lety +54

    "Cacodemons go to tier C"
    Everyone disliked that

    • @thelemonofgaming6303
      @thelemonofgaming6303 Před rokem +2

      C for Cacodemon, just like lvl 2 where the imp was in tier A for AIDS.

  • @InfernalMonsoon
    @InfernalMonsoon Před 4 lety +11

    Would really love to see a Doom 3 Nightmare tier list or lists for the Quake games at some point - there's something so fun seeing someone break down the threat level of enemies in a fast paced shooter like the Doom games.

  • @massibsel1229
    @massibsel1229 Před 4 lety +22

    The hell guard duo can be easier than the single one. The staff wielding one has a big ball that can be used to stun the mace wielder. Save a bfg for when those two first spawn to stun them, then immediately lock on to the mace wielder and turn him into a meat shield. Once he’s down the staff wielder will usually just action movie slowmo backflip in vain before you mercilessly rip out its host.

    • @justinwinters2993
      @justinwinters2993 Před 2 lety

      Fully upgraded remote rockets can stun one if timed right works well on the first one too

  • @polishworm9444
    @polishworm9444 Před 4 lety +51

    Really? Shielded soldiers E tier? When I was first playing the game on the Ultra-Violence it was one of the few actually challenging monsters to me.

    • @decino
      @decino  Před 4 lety +22

      Once you know where they appear they're ez pz.

    • @doicaretho6851
      @doicaretho6851 Před 4 lety +13

      They're the hardest regular enemies in the game to me.

    • @Shepardus
      @Shepardus Před 4 lety +3

      They wrecked me a lot too, I guess I didn't use stun bomb enough. After getting the rocket launcher that's what I usually used on them.

    • @Okusar
      @Okusar Před 4 lety +9

      @@decino I would say the same with lost souls. They're only potentially dangerous in a couple spots in the game, and even then only if you completely forget about them, yet you ranked them two tiers higher.

  • @DHOPW42
    @DHOPW42 Před 4 lety +8

    Please please please do this for Doom Eternal as well! This was so exciting to watch!

  • @Blappyboop
    @Blappyboop Před 4 lety +18

    My tier list:
    Ss tier: every single damn thing that moves.

    • @jaymun_1331
      @jaymun_1331 Před 4 lety +1

      Your profile pic though

    • @punctuationman334
      @punctuationman334 Před 4 lety +2

      hindu_frappe even unwilling and possessed?

    • @Blappyboop
      @Blappyboop Před 4 lety +2

      JAYMUN _13 it’s coach buzzcut from beavis and butthead but I warped it.

    • @BloodRaven1045
      @BloodRaven1045 Před 3 lety +1

      Isn't the entire point of doom to shoot anything and everything that moves?

  • @vandieyahya1024
    @vandieyahya1024 Před 4 lety +8

    It is suprising that the true final boss of Doom 2 (said to have higher rank than Cyberdemon, but stuck on tier F), suddenly become tier SS. Meanwhile, ever since his climactic defeat on Doom 3, the Super Cyberdemon (who's been told that only the cube thing can harm him), suddenly become an icing in the hell and goes to tier A, even lower than that newcomer Hell Guard boss. Yes though, earlier Doom games, they LOVE to spam use of Cyberdemons, but here only once (not to mention the plethora of way to cheese him in this game, ie with Siege Mode), so yeah reasonable that why the king of hell degrade 2 ranks from SS to A.

  • @pagb666
    @pagb666 Před 4 lety +6

    Just before watching it:
    Imps > Everything else
    EDIT: Neat that you took in account how they're placed. Lost souls can only take you offguard like once in the whole game.

  • @shirohimayumikira234
    @shirohimayumikira234 Před 4 lety +6

    I'm actually surprised that the Spider Mastermind actually redeemed herself! In the past, she was trapped in the shadowy realm of Tier F. But today she actually manages to demolish quite a lot of runs of Ultra Nightmare.

  • @missingindy
    @missingindy Před 4 lety +59

    Hey if u don’t mind me asking but: when is the doom 3 nightmare tier list or whatever the nightmare difficulty is called in that game?

    • @ericschuster2680
      @ericschuster2680 Před 4 lety +26

      I think no one (exept you) cares about Doom 3 right now^^

    • @kroktal8896
      @kroktal8896 Před 4 lety +23

      What about Doom 64?

    • @addajjalsonofallah6217
      @addajjalsonofallah6217 Před 4 lety +8

      @@kroktal8896
      Yaaaaas

    • @decino
      @decino  Před 4 lety +42

      Never ever.

    • @doompotty
      @doompotty Před 4 lety +15

      Isn't nightmare mode in that one bullshit because you get no healing outside of the soulcube?

  • @darknewbie342
    @darknewbie342 Před 4 lety +5

    17:48 that pinky is me at hurdles

  • @robertcop3736
    @robertcop3736 Před 4 lety +6

    I hope Hugo and the boys see this, I reckon they'd love it.

  • @daveo2992
    @daveo2992 Před 4 lety +6

    Imps tier SSS+ they can pre shoot you around a corner you're going to turn around 3 seconds from last sighting of you and there are sooooooooooooooooo many of them

    • @limpetarch98k
      @limpetarch98k Před 4 lety +1

      My only gripe with the Imp's rating is that judging from the Snap Map's sandbox, you've got a variety of Imps. Not sure if in the campaign, they use only 1 iteration or all of them, but suffice to say if I had to rank them individually it would be like this:
      Standard Imp: S Tier. It's degree of annoyance will persist through the entire campaign. They will both blast and slap you hard.
      Agressive Imp: B Tier. Surely they shall keep you busy as they only care about rushing like some fiends straight out of Quake 1, but their lack of projectiles pretty much make them appear like Hell Knights if they were extremely fragile.
      Sentinel Imp: B Tier. They won't bother charging at you, but they will invest all their time to elaborately ignite you with balls. Individually they are pretty retarded but when paired with Hell Knights and any other other demons, you would probably want to spend some ammunition in the unwashed masses of Sentinel Imps.

  • @A_D_M_E_R_A_L
    @A_D_M_E_R_A_L Před 4 lety +6

    3:26 Say "hello" to the infamous *Gore Nest of Truth*

  • @ionman1761
    @ionman1761 Před 4 lety +18

    Spider mastermind redeemed herself
    Spider mastermind: *happiness noise*

  • @rokaiking666ai
    @rokaiking666ai Před 4 lety +6

    Amazing video as always!
    Can't wait to see you play Doom Eternal.

  • @SirAroace
    @SirAroace Před 4 lety +12

    Looks like they need a "True Doom" difficulty, where all power ups, runes, and upgrades (not counting the alt-mods for guns) are disabled.

  • @rarity2299
    @rarity2299 Před 4 lety +3

    Total agree with placing Imps as highest threat on early levels. I have done my fair share of UN playing - and I have encountered many helmets written "Killed by: Imp" on every level, even the latest ones. I also contributed to several ones.

  • @moznayim
    @moznayim Před 4 lety +5

    10:30 BFG Division is playing... Did someone say "Doom Slayer" again?
    My greatest mistake in my first runthrough (on Ultra-Violence) was underestimating how amazing the Stun Bomb upgrade was for the plasma rifle. After seeing it in action... man that would've made everything so much easier.

  • @Bradbradhehe
    @Bradbradhehe Před 4 lety +2

    This video is a comprehensive masterpiece, hats off to you guys. I agree with everything except the bosses, but this is obviously for run-threatening potential and I've done UN and pistol only nightmare runs recently so have had plenty of time to practice/analyse fights.
    All in all about 90% of my deaths were from imps. Sometimes their predictive fireballs are just too galaxy brain and straight up end the run, or they become mini wall turrets and spam fireballs pretty fast [more of a pain to deal with on pistol only as you want to be able to glory kill them, or need to fully charge a headshot to get them off the wall].
    Quick note about the Kadingir Sanctum fight at 11:50, you can trigger the first Summoner to spawn by going towards the bridge where it spawns but then stay in the area with the Possessed once it starts to spawn. Less demons will spawn in, and you'll only have to kill a Summoner, Hecc Knight and a few lower level demons that way [again not the biggest lifesaver, but it's a pretty narrow arena].
    Nerves aside you [should] rarely take damage from the Cyberdemon, unless you didn't practice it I guess. The charging beam is dangerous enough that anyone should at least get the dodge timing for it down before doing UN, and learning how to deal with the pressure of the rocket barrage + triple slash on the second phase completely trivialises the fight. Only thing saving the poor guy is not being evaporated by the BFG.
    Just wanted to add some of my thoughts and experiences while watching, can't wait for all the juicy Eternal content!

  • @hectorbeck4350
    @hectorbeck4350 Před 4 lety +5

    F in the chat for the poor doots

  • @irritated_name
    @irritated_name Před 4 lety +5

    I recently beat the game on UV, and the gauss cannon's sniper mode completely broke the second boss

  • @BlazingShadowSword
    @BlazingShadowSword Před 4 lety +5

    The Spider Mastermind has VAPORIZED her previous tier by being able to tank the BFG even if it means she gets stunned.

  • @XBeamChannel
    @XBeamChannel Před 4 lety +2

    I like how the imps have gone from one of the hardest enemies on 2016 to a recharge ammo/health/shield in eternal

  • @DrearierSpider1
    @DrearierSpider1 Před 4 lety +3

    Damn, I'm less than 8 minutes in and my jaw is already dropped by the amount of detail and thought put into this list. Well done guys, can't wait for your DOOM Eternal content.

  • @halvtysk
    @halvtysk Před 4 lety +24

    Ah, the one Doom game that made me feel worthless. Had to lower my difficulty setting midway and never survived the Spiderdemon. Since release, I realise that I spent way too little time messing around with runes and upgrading stuff (i.e. playing it like Doom/Doom2), lesson learned until next time I guess. It would be interesting to see how a less-n00b-than-myself would manage the game without runes/weapon-upgrades. That could perhaps make the game more challenging...or at least make me feel less crappy about my gaming abilities... ;)

    • @T-West
      @T-West Před 4 lety +6

      ZeroMaster has a "no upgrades" Ultra Nightmare run on his channel. Then there's also a "Pistol Only" run... ;)

    • @levesteM
      @levesteM Před 4 lety +1

      @@T-West Link for ZM's no upgrades run: czcams.com/video/RR1G05e0bjs/video.html
      ByteMe also had one more recently(a skip was found for the first argent cell, so it's fully 0%): czcams.com/video/0VFNhMPVJEM/video.html

  • @FlameLFH
    @FlameLFH Před 4 lety +10

    0:20 Platforming is the only thing I'm a veteran at so FF-Tier for me :)

    • @officialromanhours
      @officialromanhours Před 4 lety +2

      FF means Fast Forwardpastallthedeathsidwhatwereyouthinking
      Bottom Text

    • @swagmaster47625
      @swagmaster47625 Před 4 lety

      More like tier Z

    • @THEPELADOMASTER
      @THEPELADOMASTER Před 3 lety

      I don't know why people had so much trouble with the platforming. Never died to platforming once in that game. Only time I died from falling was one time the enemies kinda pushed me off a cliff

  • @profikiller7303
    @profikiller7303 Před 4 lety +17

    When you play it looks so easy :(

  • @SerathDarklands
    @SerathDarklands Před rokem +2

    I have nothing but the utmost respect for people who can pull off Ultra Nightmare. I love Doom, I've loved it since the first game game out in 1993 (I was four years old and watched my brother play it), but I've never really been any good. I usually play on the lowest difficulty setting possible, with the one exception of Doom Eternal on Hurt Me Plenty for one run through the base campaign.

  • @seratope
    @seratope Před 4 lety +7

    I thought you were saying The Zest instead of Possessed
    "Be careful of the Zest."

  • @Noobirus
    @Noobirus Před 4 lety +10

    Wait, can't possesed be insta killed with glory kills on higher difficulties? I never used any ammo on them - only deleted them with glory kills to get Health. Tier F from the start.

    • @decino
      @decino  Před 4 lety +5

      They'll rek you when your glory kill animation ends and they all start surrounding you if you rely on melee only.

    • @punctuationman334
      @punctuationman334 Před 4 lety

      decino I really don’t understand why you had possessed in d tier all the way through while you put unwilling in tier z. Makes no sense.

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 Před 3 lety

      ILuv Cram Because the tier placements are based on the enemy threat across all levels, and Possessed are dangerous for awhile at the start, but by time Unwilling show up they’re totally a non-threat

  • @kentuckybruce6816
    @kentuckybruce6816 Před 4 lety +4

    In the first age
    In the first battle
    One stood
    Burned by the fires of armageddon
    He chose the path of perpetual torment
    In his ravenous hatred he scoured the surface of Mars, seeking the beast who had wronged him
    He wore the crown of Satan and those who tasted the bite of his jaws named him
    The Imp

  • @lynkcrafter8923
    @lynkcrafter8923 Před rokem +5

    Man they really gave the revenent some love in Eternal, I just (finally) started my first playthrough of Eternal, and in my hubris, I thought I could start on nightmare since I had been playing 2016 on nightmare anyway. The revenents are BRUTAL. If you ignore them and don't take out their turrets their rockets will just beam you, and are really tough to dodge. And even when you take out the turret there is still a good chance that they can sneak up on you and claw you for half your health, and you can hardly escape their melee range without dashing. Crazy how much if an upgrade they are from 2016

  • @alexismedina8065
    @alexismedina8065 Před 4 lety +5

    23:35 - I actually find the phase 1 to be harder than phase 2. Sticking to the ranged guy and spamming double SS>rail gun shot>repeat easily lowers their HP.

  • @AmyraCarter
    @AmyraCarter Před 4 lety +13

    I've not played DOOM 2016. I most certainly want to.

  • @phdfloppa420
    @phdfloppa420 Před 3 lety

    For the past week or so, ill watch this video before bed and it litterally helps me sleep so much better for some reason.

  • @talion4033
    @talion4033 Před 4 lety +1

    Can’t wait for the Doom Eternal tier list!

  • @SamuelTrademarked
    @SamuelTrademarked Před 2 lety +3

    Hell guard tip: When one of them does the glowing ball attack, immediately empty some mobile turret bullets into the ball, then just hold down m1 until the Hell Guard dies. Phases 1 and 2 aren't that tricky once you learn how to cancel the glowing orb attack. Charged Burst+double SSG or chaingun turret melts through their health once you cancel the ball attack. Phase 2 is also fairly simple. Just use the chaingun on the flame hell guard when it does the glowing orb attack to instacancel it, then BFG spam or any type of heavy combo. After that, the electric hell guard is a walk in rhe park

  • @Q.A.D.D.
    @Q.A.D.D. Před 4 lety +4

    I really think the tier list will be different for everyone because of their playstyle. I know I used Rich Get Richer rune mostly and I like to do less weapon switching. After I finished Ultra-Nightmare twice I would say the most dangerous demons are the Imp, Hell Knight, Cyber Mancubus and Pinkys. The Imps are dangerous the whole way through because a few hits and the armor for RGR rune is out. Hell Knights can be very random in certain fights and the Cyber Mancubus is a deadly sniper. Pinkys are very weird to dodge and some times when you do dodge one, it can turn around and bite you.
    Also, never glory kill an engineere, I found that out the hard way. XD

  • @grimscribe6454
    @grimscribe6454 Před 4 lety +1

    The VEGA processing chamber on the train right before you deactivate him was QUITE difficult for me, as I was kind of thrown into it without being able to prep as much as I'd like to. Big aggressive monsters without a lot of space

  • @a.k8185
    @a.k8185 Před 2 lety +2

    Dont forget about the glory kills and the praetor armor upgrades, making the run slightly smoother.

  • @maskedsalesman2020
    @maskedsalesman2020 Před 3 lety +3

    I've always found imps really difficult mostly because they're like a small, fast, weaker version of Doomguy. They constantly take my attention from the larger demons and a few managed to get rid of my shields. Glad to see that imps are pretty high on the list most of the time.

  • @limpetarch98k
    @limpetarch98k Před 4 lety +4

    Spider Mastermind: Finally I am SS Tier!
    That chaingunner in Doom Eternal: I am about to finish that woman's whole career.

  • @TheOneBearded
    @TheOneBearded Před 4 lety

    Playing with the gun at center screen truly shows Decino is a man of culture. First thing I'll look for in Eternal is that option.

  • @TheUndeadslayer221
    @TheUndeadslayer221 Před 4 lety +2

    I'm not sure if I get this right, but if memory serves me right there was a way to cheese the mastery challenges by restarting a level or something to that effect (restarting the level would set you back to square one, but would keep progression on mastery challenges).

  • @user-jp7tw3sd3x
    @user-jp7tw3sd3x Před 4 lety +5

    @decino, how about "Doom Eternal" blind run for 60k subscribers?
    On UV and with saves. And it would be great if you find time to put a heart monitor on screen.

    • @decino
      @decino  Před 4 lety +4

      Nop, I'm going to enjoy the game all by myself before I shoot any footage.

  • @nelsonguo2
    @nelsonguo2 Před 4 lety +4

    I think I would highly advise against ppicking up lockon burst over remote det on the rocket launcher. Remote det is far stronger early and post-mastery, doesn't leave you any vunlerable downtime (by having to charge it) and you can start mastering it quicker if you pick it up first since its mastery requirement is quite a pain. The DPS you get on bosses and large mobs from rotating remote det direct hit -> shotgun grenade -> instant siege shot (or regular gauss shot if you're against exploits) from medium distances or further will carry you throughout most of the game. Infact, I've never seen the twin guardian bosses nor the cyberdemon as a threat (and have never actually felt their attack sequences before) because you can kill them so quickly with 1 BFG stun + Direct hit RemoteDet->Double barrel->gauss switch rotations.
    I also think the justification for monsters like xyz mob is easy because of the stun bomb is not so good, because that same argument can be applied to every mob. The stun bomb is essentially a cheat code in this game and gets you out of pretty much every situation barring bosses. In saying that you should definitely prioritise getting the stun bomb upgrade in map02. On the topic of pinkies though using remote det by shooting a rocket beside them and exploding on their tails will kill them very quickly as well if you're short on plasma ammo or have a brain freeze and forgetting you have a stun bomb cheat code.
    Also I think using the chaingun in general is pretty bad. It's a very immobile weapon (mobile turret), the ammo depletes quickly and Remote Det+Cluster strike/Double barrel switching will clear every regular mob in the game faster. Then you'll only need Tactical scope AR for really long range engagements.
    Obviously I know alot in hind sight because I follow the 100% speedrun category of this game religiously, but even playing casually in UN I found that I never died past Argent Tower because you're basically unstoppable once you get the gauss and remote det masteries.

    • @DjTake1One
      @DjTake1One Před 4 lety +1

      I hated the idea of remote det when I first saw it and figured that I'd never get any use of it without tunnel visioning and dying, then I finally started picking up the upgrades for it when I'd run out of other things to upgrade and realised how tremendously powerful it is against bigger enemies. I'm always surprised that I don't see anyone else recommend it.

    • @nelsonguo2
      @nelsonguo2 Před 4 lety +1

      @@DjTake1One it's also just tremendously powerful in general with its high utility. Admittedly in my very first playthrough I also opted for the lock-on burst, but it was surprisingly underwhelming damage wise. (Mind you I was also stupid enough to get Heat blast over Stun bomb on the plasma gun, and my first run I played on Nightmare LOL)
      You can snipe imps mid-jump, you can blow up shielded zombiemen from the sides without expending a stun bomb, you can hit pinkie tails from detonating it from the sides (I already mentioned this), you can detonate it early if its firing off track, and it sames ammo over the lockon burst. Then once u master it you don't need to remote det at all since it does its damage boost on regular impact so its a free win on biggies and bosses haha

  • @Bubba524dtm
    @Bubba524dtm Před 4 lety

    Solid tier list. Your knowledge and aptitude show in your work man keep it up. Can't wait to see how Eternal's line-up ranks. Midnight tonight baby already pre-loaded! DOOOOOM!

  • @johnreich1878
    @johnreich1878 Před 2 měsíci

    Seeing a tier-list Change over time was really neat, definitely hope other content creators catch onto this.