Piper PA-28 Preflight Check, takeoff and landing
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- čas přidán 18. 10. 2015
- Dakoda teaches RCR how to start an airplane. It isn't like a car, you don't just turn the key and go. It takes a while because if something breaks, you can't simply pull over and stop. Engine start and landing starts at 14:50
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Thank you for posting this video. And thanks for asking the dumb questions, the owner answered them very well.
+roper I tried my best, If you have more feel free to ask here or shoot me a message.
+Dakoda Neilson Did Mr. R ever take the wheel, er, controls?
Celestion321 Both Mr. R and The Roman did take the yoke. Both did very well with me talking them though with limited or no experience flying an airplane.
+Dakoda Neilson I have a question. What is the cooldown period between these checks? Is it every single time, or just every time the plane would have a chance to break? Or is there an abridged version for subsequent flights?
Sam Stoner
I believe you do this every time you go flying
Piper pilot wearing a Ford shirt. Now you know you're in safe hands.
+InvictvsNox Cessna and Chevy shirt
+mcinkyt Oh, you mean the company that hid an ignition failure that killed people and endangered other people on the road? The company that had to be bailed out by the government so they can withstand their decent amount of sales?
+TheFutureEVH We'll pretend Dorf wasn't bailed out a few years earlier and produced not only the Pinto but the transmission that popped out of Park when you slammed the door, AND the ignition that decided all on it's own to burn your car down at 3am INSIDE your garage
Cessna pilots drive Fords around here. And other cars.
Surprisingly, there's no correlation between what somebody flies and drives, really.
5:25 "You're about to stop airplane-ing" hahaha
For people learning, just wanted to add you are mainly looking for water in the fuel when you test it. Water is heavier than gas and will have settled on the bottom (where you are pulling from) and since it is heavier you can see it on the bottom pretty easily. Also some of the testers have filters and water traps, which gives a comfort level for putting the fuel back in (a lot of people just toss it on the ground and let it evaporate)
That ADF antenna sure does look like an ELT antenna...
Yup, you'd be correct.
Corey Ballard
I don't know why I like watching preflight stuff. I watched some dude play a flight sim and 40 minutes was just preflight. It was crazy but I couldn't stop watching.
+swSephy | Sim Racing Perhaps, like James May, you like procedures. :)
IstasPumaNevada Actually, I could watch James May do preflight checklists and other procedures all day. I love when he explains stuff and would get slightly annoyed when Jeremy would interrupt him, lol.
+swSephy | Sim Racing Heh, yeah, just having done a few flights trying to get my ticket, it makes me wonder how in the actual fuck Southwest is able to go through it's checklists while loading and unloading passengers, fuel, cargo and commissary for a far more complex aircraft, in just 20 minutes. Makes me wonder why airline pilots make less than I do, and I drive a beat up '98 Impreza (but unlike the one reviewed by Regular Cars, mine's a stick).
***** Hmm?
yeah, i'm the same way. i watch squirrel doing flight sims and sometimes skip the flight and just watch the preflight and postflight parts.
I remember watching this like 3 years ago, I'm now training on an Archer!
and now you finished
@@nickde6339 I fucking wish man, I'm almost done at least but it's taken far too long.
@@StrikeWyvern get that commercial buddy
@@flyerboy2594 That's the goal. 90 hours and counting...
RegualrPlane reviews needs to be a thing
And review a Piper Super Cub or a Cessna Golden Eagle, the plane you can poop in... in front of everyone else
I would pay good money to see a Regular Piper Cub review.
+Tiberius Hrafn-Úlfur RegularPlaneReviews reviews a Cessna 172 the Honda Accord of airplanes! that would be the shit
The video was pretty serious & technical (but not boring), then the line about the PO BOX. Made me laugh out loud.
+Geardos Dakoda didn't seem to appreciate Roman's dildo joke.
+NoBrakes23 I laughed on the inside, when preflighting the airplane I tend to be focused on airplane related stuff and less on what other people are saying. I wanted to do the review because I love RCR, the humor, the whit, its up my alley but as the pilot, I have to be the serous boring one who is putting safety first before anything else.
+Dakoda Neilson Fair enough. I've worked in Aviation, so I hear ya.
Awesome video! A gem among all the car reviews. Feels exactly like my first preflight check and flight on the PA-28.
Loved watching this one, including the preflight, take off, the radio chatter and that sweet landing. Great stuff.
Hey! I know you. You took my nephews up on Young Eagles Day at KLZU. It was an amazing experience. And your folks have an ice cream tuck right. What a great family!
that was epic! love cars and planes, this hit two spots.
Fantastic film. Very educational and informative. Easy to understand and follow. More of the same please. Good job!
An all around splendid short film, thank you.
I am so happy you did an airplane review!
I love the vehicle branching out you're doing RCR! Keep it up!
he didn't shake his feet before get got in. what a mess.
lol exactly
Gotta add it to the weight and balance..make sure the CG is okay. Unnecessary! SMH!
Really cool video I always wondered about pre flight checklists
+Dakoda Neilson that was an awesome preflight walk around, you seem like a great instructor. Hope I can reach close to the same level of quality once I start taking up passengers. Thanks for the video +RegularCars, unique channel!!
I'm so happy you did this. I'm a pilot myself, and this made my day.
Very good video, I really enjoyed the explanations of the preflight check.
This was really interesting! Thanks, Mr R!
That plane has has some serious work and money spent on the avionics. It may be pushing 50 but is outfitted like a plane bought yesterday.
+vector6977 1974 PA-28... Willing to bet half to 1/4 of the value of the plane is in avionics...
+masterchiefgtx Well, the Aspen 1000 is about 7,000 and a GNS 430 is about 4,000 and the autopilot is about 5,000. I would say for a fully functioning 74 archer II your looking around 30,000. But with the Avionics the plane is now worth about 60,000.
Dakoda Neilson You could fly in a bad ass plane or drive around in a brand new Dodge Hellcat. Decisions, decisions.
laderhozin Well with airplane I can go 100+ miles an hour safely all the time. It has 180 HP that I can use all the time. The dodge has 600+ that can be used some times.
@@laderhozin Both…😂
I love this guy! Helpful for flight training, thanks!
"its a seatbelt, obviously you see how it works" *proceeds to get everything wrong*
That was awesome 🙏🙌
This was so cool. Thanks guys!
awesome video
I miss using my Atlanta sectional. I primarily flew south west of Atlanta thought. Great video
best car channel is now the best aviation channel as well!
Very helpful…thanks guys. 👍
Great informative video, great questions very helpful,
no way, this is a gem
People wish that flying cars existed but I believe that they already exist and that the PA-28 is one of them. It may not operate like a normal car but that's because it isn't a normal car, it's a flying car!
You need to review the Beechcraft Baron G58 someday. It is a beauty
Nice video!
Ford and a Piper Archer...now that is a great combination!
good explanation of the stall warning horn
+Dakoda Neilson use the damn primer. Pumping the throttle gets you a very a half assed prime.
I like to shutdown at 1000 rpm to leave the throttle properly cracked for the next start. In colder areas you will never get a good start with just the accelerator pump.
Now it'd be great if you could find someone to let you do a review of a late model Cirrus SR-20/22. Cirrus tried to make the interior as car-like as possible and you ought to find that interesting.
Two radios are handy on IFR flights when constantly having to switch frequencies. You can have several dialed in at once in anticipation of your next frequency hand off. Or have one set to the weather and the other to CTAF. I leave one of my radios on weather pretty much all the time.
I used to fly as part of an aircrew in the USAF. This brought back a LOT of memories of preflights. At least it isn't 3am and snowing. Also, FUCKING CBs. I still have callouses from those things. Almost canx'd a flight because one refused to push in until the crew chief came over with a rubber mallet...
that short black antenna is not the ADF I'm almost certain, it is the ELT. an ADF antenna usually looks like a clothes line running from the top of the tail to the top of the cabin.
oooh smooth landing
I like you panel upgrade 👍🏻 👍🏻
like a corvette, lolz
love you mr regular
That plane has seen some shit
TwistedKestrel paint job looked quite beat up, but the airplane is In great shape. those GA aircraft will beat a Tacoma by a landslide.
Nothing wrong with that plane, I'd fly it.
Thank you for this video, Piper cherokee is my favorite,....in fsx se :)
Pilot wearing a ford shirt. Had to fly his plane home because his ford broke down.. again.. lol
HAHAHAHAHAHA you are so funny, and so original! No one has ever made such a joke before, let me congratulate you on being the first! YOu clever, clever person you.
*farts in your general direction*
Finally I can say I know more about a vehicle than Mr.regular
very cool
Very cool! :)
Nice Vid. I like the avionics in your 74' bird. Can you provide details please? Any suggestion on where to have a classic six pack upgraded to glass? What do you think of the Arrow IV and upgrading to glass? Thanks
Hello, I have a question: how do you deal with trim in a traffic circuit? Thanks
I'm learning in a 182. Love my plane.
Dakoda is an instructor. Comfortable flying right seat...
+baker2niner I am a Commercial Pilot working on CFI, however, I am comfortable from both seats.
+Dakoda Neilson he's a champ!
+Dakoda Neilson How did you get started? I'm pretty interested in flying someday.
+RegularCars an Aeronca Champ? :p
+Dakoda Neilson when you're checking something that seems relatively benign to me, like the antennas, and they're 'good', what were you checking for?
Pretty cool that you came out to my home town. Film anything else while you were there?
Liked how long you kept it in ground effect for the TO
Hope you'll consider doing more planes
Nice K5LA in the background.
Q. Why do you have two radios?
A. Because you cannot transmit and receive at the same time on one radio.
Yes you can. Lots of radios have a monitor function for the standby frequency and you could only transmit on one at a time anyways.
+Bartonovich52 These are almost certainly half-duplex, this article explains it nicely en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duplex_(telecommunications)
+Joshua Clarke The reason is 1.) Redundancy 2.) Makes switching and storing frequencies easier 3.) LISTEN to more than 1 at once although, yes, you can only transmit on one at a time.
I used to fly, I miss this
What type -brand of EFIS-PFD does it have?
Wanna hear/see some more of the actual takeoff and flight (not sped up)!
Review a Maule M5 Lunar Rocket if you can! Love the regular planes. My grandpa has a Cherokee 140.
Didn't think you turn the alternator on, only closed the circuit to the batteries....?
Very cool bug smasher.
where did you get the panel work o that aircraft ?
Great Video!!! Is the owner an instructor? He answered every question with such simplicity!!! He would definitely be someone I would love to be my teacher. Where was this video taken?
Another reason why this aircraft needs to have 2 COM radios is that it needs 2 in order to be eligible to fly IFR
why the fuel drained near engine is not blue?
How many seats is that? Looks like 2....4...or 6...maybe
He needs a review on his radio antennas...the small antenna he identified as the ADF antenna is actually the ELT (Emergency Location Transmitter) antenna. That, and the GPS antenna is above the cockpit on the center of the plane (Visible in the video).
This great
Butter
Airplane key looks like a key to a 60s car
The black whip isn't the ADF antenna. It's the antenna for the ELT
man, this will give people an airplane porn POV on youtube!!! thank you mr +RegularCars
I don't think you're supposed to pump the throttle in an aircraft carb... it's upside down from a car so you're just pumping in fuel that will pool up and pose a fire hazard. My CFI pumped the throttle on the Warrior before my IFR checkride. Then I did it on the checkride and the examiner made sure he told me not to do that and told me why. 14:40 in the video
+modlincraig I know it is not good practice, however, on the old pipers the primer handle is a little tricky when starting from the right seat. The airplane now has the primer push-switch because someone broke the primer handle.
+Dakoda Neilson oh yea I didn't think about the fact that the primer is on the other side. Good point
+Dakoda Neilson It's literally an inch away from the throttle. That minuscule distance is much better than an engine fire
I was wondering what the fuck was up with all the car references and off hand comments. Like dude, its just a brief on how to pre-flight a plane. But then I saw this was RCR and it all makes sense now lol
I wish cars had circuit breakers. I get that they use fuses in order to force joe suburb who knows nothing about cars to take it in for service and have whatever electrical problem properly diagnosed but its kind of a pain when your fuse goes due to some little thing and you have to go track down a few
Why don't cars have tinted visors? As a tall person this seems like a good idea. So you can like still see with it all the way down.
+lolz larkin When I worked at a car dealer as a porter, one of the used cars we got in that I had to clean out had a transparent visor like this clipped on to the existing visor. I took it and put it in my car! Not sure where these are sold but it is definitely one of the coolest things I've ever put in my car! And it blocks out just enough sunlight to make an otherwise very dangerous road condition extremely manageable. Maybe Amazon sells them?
It's like sun glasses for your windshield. Whats not to like?
Sure I've seen it on a previous RCR vid, but not sure if it was stock or aftermarket.
lolz larkin Definitely aftermarket, in a car anyways, I haven't heard of a car coming with that stock... which I honestly don't know why... at least in the luxury division you'd think!
Pretty sure it was quite an old car. Not the one I was thinking of, but google found this one www.secondchancegarage.com/public/1935-dodge-du-coupe.cfm
Ah you know what, good call, I could definitely see something from this era coming with it stock. Cars at that time had the option for lots of dainty add-ons that were actually quite useful, like the steering knob lol
nice landing buddy, don't get much better
+Flying'N'Driving Thanks!
That whip antenna aft of the GPS antenna is your ELT antenna. If you still have an ADF, the primary is on the bottom of the plane and looks similar to a spade -- and you will have a "long wire" sense antenna spanning the fwd part of the cockpit with the fin, never a whip (and the ADF is HF not VHF). You also appeared to have "blown off" inspecting the Nav antennae on top of the fin.
The electrical system is the same as in a car. Car people refer to theirs by the battery rating (12V). Airplane people refer to theirs by the alternator rating (14V). Car alternators also put out 14 volts.
+Gwen Walcott Not all airplanes are 14/12. The C172SP's that I fly are the 28/24 like he stated.
more airplanes :)
We have a piper Saratoga turbo and we've always dumped the fuel on the ground after checking it for contaminates and water, idk If that's just a small airport thing we've just always done it.
Shafer Amos The legality of that varies state to state, for example it’s illegal in Florida to do that. Nothing wrong with pouring it back in, but you should use a filter to be safe. The fuel he poured back in looked contaminated by water to me, but it may have just been the video. Most the places I know of have a container to pour the fuel that’s drained so all the contaminates and water are filtered
official youtube legend status
does anybody know the rib dimensions for this plane?
How the hell do you hear the radio with all that fuzz?
Like a key to a tool cabinet at work where measuring equipment worth thousands are kept.
It's an Axxess+ key. I've used one before, but not on an aircraft.
Reminds me of my training days when stalls are part of training not an incident hahaha
To the owner, how many hours do you have? How affordable is regular flying in something like a vans r4 for a regular joe?
+FireRisinWithin Lets just say I have enough.
Well this about as regular as you can get, I am interested in the fact you bring up the RV-4. The RV series are great planes and ones that are close to my heart. The RV-4 you can build realistically for about 100,000, which in the aviation world, to have a zero time aircraft with good instruments for the price is AMAZING. The RV-4 is not a starter airplane and I would suggest doing your certificate in Piper, Cessna, Diamond, or similar. Once you have about 100 to 150 hours that is when a plane like the RV-4 is with in your reach (insurance wise). The RV-4 is an aerobatic airplane that has good cross country performance and can be set up to fly in instrument conditions. The cost of owning a experimental airplane is cheaper then that of a certified airplane.
You can own and fly a plane yearly for the same price it cost to have a Mustang or Corvette.
amazing. I always though that flying was an unaffordable hobby. I definitely might consider it once I have a good job and my student loans payed off
Why did you guys start doing plane vids? Interested in aviation!?
Actually it is recommended that you wipe the oil dipstick because the crankcase pressure will cause it to rise up the tube giving an inaccurate reading. Always best to clean dipstick to get accurate readings. Not hating on your video just trying to help. Also when checking the horizontal stabilator check for slack from side to side. Just spent a fortune replacing worn bushings on my plane last annual because of not being aware. Fly safe.
2:32 *sniffs* yep all good.
+Cry Whit A good whiff of tetraethyl-lead.
pinkdispatcher oh is that different than gasoline for cars?
+Cry Whit Quite different. AVGAS ("Aviation Gasoline") contains a lot of lead: between 0.45 and 0.56 g/L for the most widespread 100LL ("low lead"). It has a performance number ("Octane") of 100 for lean and 130 for rich mixture. There were higher-grade fuels, which are still used in very small quantities for warbirds and races with a performance number up to 145. So far, despite some 20 years of research, no single unleaded drop-in replacement fuel suitable for all engines unmodified has been developed.
So aviation has in many countries (including the US and most of Europe) a special exemption from an otherwise blanket ban of leaded fuels.
pinkdispatcher thanks for the knowledge. Please excuse my ignorance on the subject but when it is burned, where does the lead go?
+Cry Whit Well, this is embarassing. Out the exhaust pipe. Yes, it's bad for ... basically everything and everybody except the manufacturers of tetraethyl-lead, which is the compound in which the lead is mixed into the fuel. Which is why nobody is really happy with the situation (except ... you know), and the search for an unleaded replacement has been going on for a long time. There are now some candidate fuels for replacing the leaded AVGAS (www.bonanza.org/9-news/1016-faa-selects-fuels-for-100ll-replacement-testing?noredirect=true), but it's going to take a while. There are already some lower-grade replacement fuels (such as Total AVGAS UL91), and some aircraft are certified to operate on automotive fuel, but ... piston-driven airplanes are still basically the only source of lead in the environment, and will probably be for years to come.
Called the ELT antenna an ADF antenna.
FWIW, a properly functioning car charging circuit should be putting out 14V. If that airplane operates @ 14V, its the same as a "12V" system on a car.
+Daniel Hankey And similarly, a healthy lead acid battery should be 12.6-12.8V off charge, even though it's referred to as 12V. If you're only getting 12V off a 12V battery, it's not holding a charge properly.
+Daniel Hankey And the reason why some aircraft use 28/24 volt systems is to cut down on wire weight.
Wire is sized for the current it has to carry. Twice the voltage means double the power for the same size wire.
+Ryan Dewsbury Don't forget higher AC frequencies used too, since high frequency, low-current transformers can be made very compact indeed.
I'm currently working on my ppl and ofcourse thinking about getting my own little aircraft. How far does this thing go in terms of running cost and price to purchase? (i've found some indicative figures but it's always nice to hear it from someone first hand)
+Thierry Van Tillo Depending on what you get, operating cost on the Archer is about 155 an hour and insurance is about the same on a regular car.
Dakoda Neilson i see... slightly more than what i was expecting but nothing I can't handle. Prices also differ greatly, i've seen them as cheap as 15k and as expensive as 35. All depends on age and options i suppose.
Oh well, it'll be a while before I actually have the license so i have plenty time to investigate my options.
thanks for your input :)
If you are looking to by an airplane I would say 30 is about as low as I would go. The reasoning is 30 is when you start to see some real gems. Something with reasonable hours, IFR certified and something that will carry 3 people and fuel for a few 100 miles.
I agree with your sentiment, For around 30k you should be able to find something that's had at least a couple of upgrades and has been maintained well (or is simply not as old as cheaper ones).
It'll be a couple more years before I'm going to seriously look into it but, assuming my financial situation stays as-is, I should be able to get myself something in the 35-40k range.
Did Roman ever find his hat? Haha