Umarex HDR 50 vs TORPEDO REVOLVER • Home Defense Airguns

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  • čas přidán 12. 08. 2023
  • Today we finally compare the famous Umarex HDR 50 (or TR 50 in the US) to the brand new Mercury Rise TR 50 or Torpedo Revolver.
    Both 50 caliber paintball markers are designed for “less lethal” home defense, but which one will perform better?
    In this video we cover all the main points and differences between the HDR 50 and the Torpedo Revolver, both factory 'out of the box' guns with a similar power output. A MUST WATCH!
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  • @AirgunAlley
    @AirgunAlley  Před 8 měsíci +9

    👇🏽 FIND EVERYTHING HERE👇🏽
    🔫 TR50 (Torpedo Revolver):
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    📝 ABOUT THE CHANNEL VISUAL BALLISTIC EXPERIMENTS AND TESTS
    Welcome to my personal creative channel made of non-technical reviews, short sketches and visual experiments - aimed at entertaining viewers by showcasing air guns and accessories in action - to give you a realistic feel of the air gun/accessory you’re looking into buying or simply enjoy looking at.
    This channel was established in DECEMBER 2021 and it will only be THANKS TO YOU that I’ll be able to continue making new, weekly videos and create 100% HOMEMADE, QUALITY CONTENT.
    Thanks again for your support, thank you for SUBSCRIBING!
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    #TR50 #TorpedoRevolver #HDR50
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  • @kevinmakyle8779
    @kevinmakyle8779 Před 11 měsíci +120

    For those that are saying the tr50 less lethal revolver is not a good less lethal defensive weapon , I highly disagree with you. I carry the tr50 on me every single day as a personal defensive weapon. And I have it loaded with devastator rounds. I carry 3 full magazines loaded with this ammo. I recently had to use it against a guy that was charging at me with a knife in his hand. I shot him in the chest with 3 devastator rounds in quick succesion and he dropped the knife and ran away while actually crying. Oh and I have the 11 joule version that shoots between 450 and 470 fps.....

    • @alfonso7851
      @alfonso7851 Před 11 měsíci +10

      I agree with you, I have always defended that these weapons with kinetic projectiles can make a person armed with a knife desist from their intentions and here your testimony proves it.And we are talking about an 11J weapon, I think 11J is the minimum, between 16 and 20J without the most recommended powers

    • @alfonso7851
      @alfonso7851 Před 11 měsíci +11

      Although it is true and I have commented on this in different CZcams threads, it is that these weapons have their limitations, so how everything will depend a lot on the skill of who wields it and their determination. There is nothing worse and more dangerous than being insecure in the face of a risk situation to which we have to respond.
      It's important where to shoot like you said if you shoot 3 or more rounds at the We must also keep in mind the person who was shot because not all people suffer the same trauma.For example, there are innumerable cases where police officers have shot with electric weapons or defense sprays and many cases have resisted being subdued by non-lethal means.
      Of what if we can be sure that it is a means with many possibilities to defend oneself against someone who is not armed with a firearm with a knife . As I said before, 16J to 20J is recommended and choose a good ammunition.

    • @kevinmakyle8779
      @kevinmakyle8779 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@alfonso7851 I didn't know it could be modified up to a 20 J.

    • @alfonso7851
      @alfonso7851 Před 11 měsíci +11

      @@kevinmakyle8779 Well, I can talk about the UMAREX HDR 50 you will know that there are 7;5 and 11J but they are marketed already modified to more than +20J valve kit is sold to increase power or many stores already sell it modified, what happens is that the more power the less autonomy of the cylinder if with 11J you can shoot 18 rounds with 20J you can only 12 rounds we speak with a stable fps speed do not rush the shots You know that the more you rush the last ones they already lose a lot of fps.

    • @alfonso7851
      @alfonso7851 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@kevinmakyle8779 I don't know if you have the Mercury torpedo TR 50 o tienes la UMAREX HDR 50 I see that the interior is the same so you could put the same valve for + 20J

  • @Yankeerex
    @Yankeerex Před 11 měsíci +25

    Wow... amazing how you've developed your channel with the camera angles, dramatic music, slow motion views, labeling of objects and you even seem to sweat less lol. I remember when you first started this channel and you've come a long way. Your videos are very entertaining and I want to thank you for all your hard work and dedication to this channel. Congratulations on your 25k subscribers 👏 🙌 Much ❤ and respect 🙏
    Again thank you: Yankeerex

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci +5

      Oh man, you leave me without words! Thank you so, so much! And thank you for your support from the beginning! A lot has changed from that small narrow alley on the side of our house, blocked in the middle by that giant AC unit ahahaha!
      Thank you again so much!!

  • @slogan43
    @slogan43 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Been watching you for some time now, Just subscribed. Owning and testing the Tr 50 for awhile now with different ammo, I can truly say the stock 11J version I have will hurt and/or potentially take your life is enough, to make me, as a Felon feel more armed if needed depending on the situation. Thank you for making the effort to create videos like this , It has helped me realize how well these launchers can be beneficial in alot of ways besides just Fun.......

  • @luiznogueira1579
    @luiznogueira1579 Před 11 měsíci +13

    Another great video! The comparison between the TRs was perfect, you showed the pros and cons of each gun very clearly. I get what you say about the lack of accuracy; the Mercury seemed better off in that aspect, although the Umarex was a little bit more potent. Loved the SpaghettOs bashing!😂
    The intros are always a lot of fun! Great job, Gian!

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thank you so much Luiz!! I’m glad you find it so, mission accomplished :)
      Thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @airgunballistics1779
    @airgunballistics1779 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Man that was awesome! Such an informative video! Thanks for the shout out Gian! Btw with hdr type, its always a good idea to dry fire first before pressing the blow off button.. this can prevent breaking. Thanks again my friend 🤌🤌👌👊

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci +3

      Always a pleasure man! Keep up the good work!
      Totally agree on the dry firing, I just try not to where I live, to avoid the extra noise for my neighbors, whom are already enduring dozens of shots every time I film 😂

    • @VinsaneOne
      @VinsaneOne Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@AirgunAlley When near the end, no louder than farts...😯

  • @henrik1205
    @henrik1205 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video as always :-) great comparison! I think after watching this that instead of getting a torpedo gun, I might just get some new barrels for my guns! Thank you for your great work and good videos!

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      And thank you for your support my old friend!!
      I just heard from Mercury Rise who’s working on a power tuning kit… things could get interesting again :) shall keep you posted.
      Thank you again!!

  • @humor62
    @humor62 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Another Fantastic Video, great details and testing! I learned a lot! Thank You So Much!

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 7 měsíci

      Glad it was helpful! And thank YOU!!

  • @georgeloveless4176
    @georgeloveless4176 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Well done again my friend.
    No doubt, you put a lot of time and energy into this.
    As of now, I just have the Umarex T4E 11joule version, and after watching your comparison's, Ill probably just stick with that because they are so close in most areas.
    This Mercury Rising company is putting out some really good stuff, so I think theyll be around for awhile.
    Im looking forward to what they do next.
    I say all the time, its a great time to be an airgunner because the products are just so good and theres so much to choose from.
    Glad your ok buddy and thanks again for your work...its appreciated.

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      You always give excellent comments and inputs George, to not mention your profound kindness. I very much agree with you all around and as always, thank you so much!!! 🙏🏽

  • @MrMacavity
    @MrMacavity Před 11 měsíci +6

    I love my Umarex HDR 50, it's a really solid piece. 👍 good videos also, keep up the good work with the channel 🙂

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      And thank you again!! I really appreciate you 🙏🏽🙌🏼

    • @Sir-Poopington
      @Sir-Poopington Před 3 měsíci +1

      I'm assuming you've tested it. I'm curious. Is he a really bad shot or is it just that inaccurate?

  • @mgnet
    @mgnet Před 11 měsíci

    Bought a HDR 50 times ago, had to tweak it a bit, luminescent paint on the sights to make them usable, new barrel for accuracy and slight power enhancement, restriction valve changed to get close to 18-19 joules, and "devastator" as ammunition of choice.
    It is now "OK" for non lethal defense up to 10 meters, with two full power 6 rounds barrels for 1 CO² cartridge, I store it with a mix of 3 "devastators" and 3 pepper balls in each barrel.

  • @halfcirclehranch6877
    @halfcirclehranch6877 Před 11 měsíci +6

    When you talked about Umarex contracting parts for their HDR 50 to this company, it made me think of something else with Umarex. A bit over 2 years ago, they announced the Umarex Primal at ShotShow. It's a 20 gauge air shotgun they market primarily to shoot their proprietary slugs, although they claim it can shoot nearly anything. Well, they made their proprietary slugs available for order, at a whopping $46 for 10. Nearly $5 per shot. I wouldn't have been surprised if all the preorders were cancelled and they ended up cancelling the Primal. But it's still scheduled for release later this month.
    Well, how this relates. Their proprietary slugs are hardly proprietary. The slugs are actually produced by a US company. They market that slug design for reloading in a number of gauges for shotguns. If you buy from them directly, the slugs come in a box of 25 for $18.

  • @gastonlagaffe7793
    @gastonlagaffe7793 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Excellent comparative video between these two very similar revolvers even if the HDR50 is a little more powerful.

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you so much Monsieur Gaston! I spoke to Mercury Rise yesterday and they’re already working on more powerful versions with longer barrels… we’re only at the beginning hahaha!

  • @AIRGUNZ_MILITIA
    @AIRGUNZ_MILITIA Před 11 měsíci +4

    i am glad you approve and agree with me about that mercury rise.
    i do wonder if the 20 joules valve from the umarex will fit into the mercury rise, probably.
    enjoy

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      That’s a great question… check out the Umarex T4E channel I mentioned at the end. If I’m not mistaking Jeff already started opening them up big time 😁

  • @stuart2500
    @stuart2500 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Alright mate 👍 gotta be honest was expecting it to be alot closer between them two guns. Gotta give it to the HDR out preformed the mercury in every test . As always keep up the good work 👍

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci +2

      I know right! Me too mate! Gotta give it to Umarex… anyway, let’s see what they’ll come up with next. Both brands.
      Thank you Stuart, wishing you a great week ahead mate!

  • @TheCaddy84
    @TheCaddy84 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Knife/gunfight lol.
    Your buddy that sent me here. A guy with braids and a cool little baby in his vid. Well. He shot a dude right in his tatoo in the leg with a 50 and devastator round. The metal went right in his leg. Bled instantly. Wild how in sunk right in.
    Not a gun but undoubtedly usefull to serve its purpose plus.
    Ive watched like ten of your vids so far. I forgot guys name but "thanks for the recommendation to this channel bud "

  • @Sam_Smith
    @Sam_Smith Před 2 měsíci

    That was really interesting to watch you. I have subscribed 😊

  • @ithepreacher8309
    @ithepreacher8309 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for making a new video.
    Your whole presentation and comportment are always enlightening.
    Disclaimer: This was a Dilettante Presumption Theorem: All statements of fact, opinion, or analysis expressed do not necessarily reflect official positions or views or any other entity, past or present. Nothing in the contents should be construed as asserting or implying endorsement of interpretations and factual statements.

  • @runerebel8441
    @runerebel8441 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video and testing. Thanks for the shout-out🙏. Cheers from your friend in Norway 😃👍

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you for teaching us so much about ariguns Maestro! Have a wonderful week! 🙌🏼

    • @runerebel8441
      @runerebel8441 Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you my friend. Have a wonderful week you also 😃@@AirgunAlley

  • @rogercave8245
    @rogercave8245 Před 10 měsíci +12

    Another great video! I'd say that the HDR 50 won that one!
    Also, on gas release I'm sure you know that once the power drops too much to shoot you can pull the trigger a few more times which makes pushing the red button in quite easy.
    I think that the torpedo revolver loses power because the mag is too long, the round has to travel the length of the mag before entering the barrel so uses more gas to shoot the round thus reducing the launch pressure.

  • @zdravkostankov255
    @zdravkostankov255 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Thanks for a review ❤

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you my friend, it’s my complete pleasure!

  • @terryholloway9930
    @terryholloway9930 Před 9 měsíci +1

    With my umarex tr50 with the black rubber balls I hit my mail box from my front porch 5 out of six times about 40 yards pretty good for me

  • @KenHSr
    @KenHSr Před 10 měsíci

    Yup, sticking with my HDR 50.

  • @Outrider74
    @Outrider74 Před 11 měsíci +7

    I have both TRs as well. My accuracy tests at 20 feet have been decent, but not pinpoint. Good enough for shot placement on a human torso,.

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      🙌🏼

    • @alfonso7851
      @alfonso7851 Před 11 měsíci

      Which of the two do you prefer the UMAREX or the Mercury Torpedo?

    • @Outrider74
      @Outrider74 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@alfonso7851 for me I think I prefer the Umarex a little bit more only because it seems easier to upgrade. Now the torpedo revolver may be able to be upgraded but I have yet to see anybody try it.

    • @imagitu6409
      @imagitu6409 Před měsícem

      can the TR be modified for mor power like the hdr can?

  • @LessLethalDad
    @LessLethalDad Před 11 měsíci +7

    I find it hilarious that people think these markers won't have an impact 🤣. I've been destroying my ballistic dummy bust with all sorts of markers and airguns and munitions. Very cool video my friend...keep em coming. They are both good markers with great potential 👍👍

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      Hahaha you still shooting that thing?! He must become a meatball by now! I need to come check out some of your latest work…
      Thank you as always my fellow Airgun dad, that also spreads science on the Tube

    • @InitialFailure
      @InitialFailure Před 9 měsíci +1

      I think it's funny when people who can't own an actual firearm compare these to real weapons.
      A .22LR is likely more effective, let alone a .380 ACP, .38 SPL, 9mm-you get the point. Well, no, you probably don't 😅😂😅😂😅

    • @tasteofsummeri569
      @tasteofsummeri569 Před měsícem

      I’ve been honing in the daisy slingshots… just for fun… with 1/2 hex nut it can often get through concrete board which is hard stuff. Truth be told sometimes it’s not about that sort of stuff lacking power, it’s about how you use it.

  • @jonnymak1079
    @jonnymak1079 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I need to see both theseguns shoot the wood and cocunuts with the Zrams if thats possible???
    Also i recently startd watching this channel... instantly suscribed and is probably my favorit airgun channel ,thsnx :)

  • @offgrid8445
    @offgrid8445 Před měsícem +1

    Good video. Very informative and well presented.

  • @rick31869
    @rick31869 Před 11 měsíci +1

    AWESOME SHOW MY BROTHER !!! I REALLY ENJOYED IT !!!

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thank you my Ninja!! Saw you wrote me, haven’t gotten around to open it yet… will do my man. Hope the hip is doing well!

    • @rick31869
      @rick31869 Před 11 měsíci

      @@AirgunAlley thanks for asking , i am having some trouble with a nerve , still suffering daily but what ever doesn't kill me will just make me stronger LOL !!!

  • @ConnersvilleBarber
    @ConnersvilleBarber Před 11 měsíci +2

    Great video! Love how well the channel is doing!

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Oh man thank you so much!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽

    • @ConnersvilleBarber
      @ConnersvilleBarber Před 11 měsíci

      @@AirgunAlley also thank you for setting me up with Caleb over at Airgun Ballistics. Got a hdr50 with an extended barrel and barrel cover and it’s pushing 35j ! Great dude and good customer service.

  • @keeperssecurity8083
    @keeperssecurity8083 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Really great review man!

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you so much! Truly appreciated

  • @THELESSLETHALSPOT
    @THELESSLETHALSPOT Před 11 měsíci +1

    As always great video brother you know I am a HDR guy. The Mercury Rise looks cool and have great features but lack some power.

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Gracias as always mi hermano from the north! I just heard from Mercury Rise who’s now working on a complete power tuning kit…. Will be interesting to see the results! Stay tuned my friend :)

  • @gasslight5498
    @gasslight5498 Před 8 měsíci

    Please consider reviewing the Mercury Rise MUB 50, my favorite LL weapon right now (though I still usually carry the Byrna LE because of the trigger pierce.

  • @blackphysicalexperimentation
    @blackphysicalexperimentation Před 10 měsíci +1

    I love my first hdx 68 rifle. Wow the power! I was surprised about how loud the rifle was. Yes, unhealthy food can be a great option as targets

  • @OneManTwoHandsOffGrid
    @OneManTwoHandsOffGrid Před 6 měsíci +1

    You do the best reviews thank you

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 6 měsíci

      Oh man! Thank you so much!! I really appreciate it 🙏🏽

  • @jefftrothier8633
    @jefftrothier8633 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Good job ! Enjoy your videos.

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you so much Jeff! Glad you like them!

  • @marianoc6829
    @marianoc6829 Před 19 dny +1

    Buen informe amigo cortito y conciso, excelente

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 9 dny

      Muchas gracias Mariano!!! 🙌🏼🙏🏽

  • @marccatarusha1789
    @marccatarusha1789 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Better videos every time, congrats!
    I think Umarex HAS to improove a lot several aspects but, at the end, the results are clear: concerning the power of destruction... Umarex wins.
    Salutacions des de Catalunya

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Thank you very much Marc and you’re spot on! I much agree, despite everything - the numbers have spoken.
      Of course if the choice is between an Umarex 7,5 joules and a Torpedo, then I’d absolutely go for the Torpedo.
      Thank you again amigo!

  • @tonalloolmos8169
    @tonalloolmos8169 Před 11 měsíci +1

    idk ill use it as a self defense but tha is probably cuz im comfortable with a back up gun i love ones tha fire multiple calibers

  • @SnipeLoisirsTestsCustoms
    @SnipeLoisirsTestsCustoms Před 11 měsíci

    Hi thank you for this conclusive test I prefer umarex and did you try to pierce the valve on an hdp? The results are bluffing 😉

  • @yummm8775
    @yummm8775 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Awesome review and tests! Looks like the HDR50 is more powerful than the torpedo on your review. I just saw another review where the oppostie occured, the torpedo had a higher FPS than the HDR50.

    • @kenlieberman4215
      @kenlieberman4215 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Natural variance in production tolerances. So you can't choose on speed unless you try the guns first.

  • @UmarexLessLethalHomeDefense
    @UmarexLessLethalHomeDefense Před 11 měsíci

    Awesome video man thanks for the shout :)

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      Absolutely man! Hope you can be a beacon for all those lost souls looking for upgrades 🙌🏼

  • @PurePerspicacity
    @PurePerspicacity Před 8 měsíci

    Great video

  • @tonykaye2523
    @tonykaye2523 Před 8 měsíci +1

    If you had used let’s sat, a Laser sight and was able to hit the can straight on you would have had very similar results. The first shot hit hard, but the remaining shots clearly (from what we could see in the video) were glancing shot.

  • @danielloyal3845
    @danielloyal3845 Před 7 měsíci

    I just upgraded my tr50 7.5 to the 11 joule.am I supposed to then take out the valve block out of my upgraded 11 joule to get even more power?? I appreciate any knowledge. Thanks

  • @dumdebadaba
    @dumdebadaba Před 7 měsíci

    Since you don't want to modify, will you diesel your pellets/slugs? Or do you count that as a modification?

  • @kentgladden4316
    @kentgladden4316 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I purchased my T4E-50 three years ago, & am extremely pleased w/ its performance. I don't have it to be a killing weapon. I use mine as a blinding weapon of Gun-Jitsu. Much as I have boxer-pittie rescue dogs that guard my home. I'm not that "I have a firearm" home-defense guy. I do own firearms, but they're not my primary self-defense against would-be criminals. At 10-15' (or less), the T4E is plenty accurate enough to hit the bridge of the nose. Blinding/disorienting the target at least 5 seconds... at which point my dogs have a little somethin' they wanna say about it.

  • @magicgundam
    @magicgundam Před 4 měsíci

    I recently bought an upgraded HDR 50. I like that the Mercury Rising CO2 bump doesn't require the allen key to tighten/loosen. Would that valve would fit onto the Umarex gun?

  • @kenhaynes4259
    @kenhaynes4259 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Great review, think you were a bit biased on the Yank version, didn't see much difference
    on the accuracy stakes but all in all a great video !👍

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Hey man thanks a lot! I really appreciate the upgrades the Torpedo Revolver made on the body: the safety, the better sites the gas release, eymtc. And I’m a huge fan of the enlarged magazine… I don’t know if this means I’m bias - but despite what I think, I always like to let the images speak :) thanks again my friend

  • @DarrylBlair-pg4op
    @DarrylBlair-pg4op Před 11 měsíci +1

    Very informative

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you!! I’m happy it could help :)

  • @warrenhall7060
    @warrenhall7060 Před 7 měsíci +1

    THANKS FOR THE HUMOR MY MAN !!!!!

  • @Pootycat8359
    @Pootycat8359 Před 10 měsíci +2

    It would be great to have something like that, without the grips, that could be mounted under the magazine tube of a shotgun. It would be ideal for dealing with an intruder who doesn't pose a threat to your life, but you don't want to just run away. But you'd have the option of employing lethal force, if warranted.

  • @LtJackboot
    @LtJackboot Před 6 měsíci

    Those Z-Rams look like fun 🙂

  • @JayJone5169
    @JayJone5169 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I take that back on the torpedo about it being pathetic in power it is a little weaker than 11j umarex, but its like10 j on lightest while umarex is like 12+ which both are better that 7.5 j which wont even put crack in coconut.

  • @georgeaura
    @georgeaura Před 11 měsíci +1

    I think you should have used the pointed ones for th coconut as well.

  • @LtJackboot
    @LtJackboot Před 6 měsíci

    I want to know the bb calibre. It's only a .50 cal because of what amounts to a thick plastic sabot. Is the bb a .25?

  • @Chicagocustomkinetics
    @Chicagocustomkinetics Před 2 měsíci

    I own both , and I do prefer the mercury. nice comparison.

  • @smillerceo
    @smillerceo Před 9 měsíci +1

    I have a 25 Joule Umarex and I love 💗

  • @DIMZEROCENT
    @DIMZEROCENT Před 11 měsíci +2

    I own an HDR50 which I converted to HPA, longer barel and so on in order to make it a bit more powerfull....
    Is this flexibility also possible on the Mercury Rise ?

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      Towards the end of the video I mention a great channel that can help you with that: “Umarex T4E….” I put the link to his CZcams page in the description of this video. He does incredible stuff on these launchers

  • @donbaxley5530
    @donbaxley5530 Před 3 měsíci

    Do they make a pellet pistol with the pellet part of the gas. Like powder is to a bullet.

  • @norionorio2275
    @norionorio2275 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Excelente teste 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @donaldknottjr.835
    @donaldknottjr.835 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Why can't they make a 24 gram co 2 . Cartridge. ?? Or install co2 rechargeable tube in the pistol grip?? Just saying. Though I like the Mercury..

  • @moralrelativity1969
    @moralrelativity1969 Před 3 měsíci

    Question... wouldn't it suffice for close encounters? Someone on your porch is still on the outside of your home..

  • @arnehusby1420
    @arnehusby1420 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I agree with you. My tuned HDR-50 is not a precision gun. I have the barrel and Cylinder and tuning kit from Home Defense 24 in Germany. I have test my Gun with both Laser and Dot Sight. The down side of tuning are that the Gun use a lot of Gas 15-20 shots, and I have to change the Co2 patron. The upsides are better precision and very hard hits. I mold my own Slugs to save some money. Out of the box the HDR-50 is not a high quality Gun as my other Umarex Guns. My personal favorite gun is the Walter CP-88 it is high Quality and high price, but the Walter will last for a long time with metal parts an no Plastic parts. Thanks for your Interesting Channel for us Air Guns shooters. I am Norwegian, like Rune Rebel. 😏

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 10 měsíci

      Hello my friend!! Thank you so much and very well said!! W Norway!! 🙌🏼

  • @johnpalmer1945
    @johnpalmer1945 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Caleb- Airgun Ballistics (modifications)

  • @rogercave8245
    @rogercave8245 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I've added a red dot sight to mine so sighting is more consistent, maybe you could try one and make a video showing the accuracy with a red dot sight?

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 9 měsíci +2

      Good point roger… but I don’t think the issue is with the aim. You can aim perfectly, but often the projectiles take a trajectory of their own anyway hehe

    • @rogercave8245
      @rogercave8245 Před 9 měsíci

      @@AirgunAlley I'm setting up a cardboard box target soon so I can reuse my ammo so will see how accurate it is with the red dot, I guess that without rifling it will be as you say lol
      Looks great with it fitted and the lamp underneath though!
      Pity I can't seem to send pictures lol

  • @user-zx5fo5xx3o
    @user-zx5fo5xx3o Před 2 měsíci

    synthetic grease blob on end of co2 before install works better, less messy

  • @halfcirclehranch6877
    @halfcirclehranch6877 Před 11 měsíci

    By the way, your dummy with the foam head attached, it has so much neck, it looks kinda like you're shooting a Kaminoan from Star Wars. Interesting thing to use as a target while comparing the HDR-50 to a clone...

  • @John-zi4ii
    @John-zi4ii Před 6 měsíci +1

    Awesome ! 😊

  • @anon_y_mousse
    @anon_y_mousse Před 8 měsíci +3

    I agree that it could work in a home defense situation. At close range it would penetrate skin and muscle, and as long as your house is small and you're close, then you've got them. I just wouldn't use it for general self defense while out of the house. However, the Mercury Rise does look like a cool gun and I definitely want one.

  • @theeasywayoutcampers6550
    @theeasywayoutcampers6550 Před 5 měsíci

    In every other test I have seen the Mercury Rise is more powerful. Because it has no restrictor valve. They are usually 12 to 14 jewels out of the box

  • @andrelinoge6810
    @andrelinoge6810 Před 5 měsíci

    Can I please get an explanation for why I am not civilized for carrying/owning firearms??
    Just curious, maybe we can discuss this further 🤔

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 5 měsíci

      I spent most of my life in developing nations documenting extreme poverty, conflict and devastation. I was referring to those countries, where there is basically no rule of law.
      Nothing to do with gun lovin Merica. Hope this helps

  • @marcothejudge9885
    @marcothejudge9885 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Dude...its always a plesure to watch ur videos. Good idea to fix the plates that way. And gratulation to over 25 k subs Mate. Ure on a great way. I cant wait to see u shooting guns like the Huben rifle and Pistol and other great stuff. Thx 4 ur work. Btw...would the pepperballs even explode on soft surface like a thick jacket? Greetings

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      Marco!! Thanks so much as always for your kindness and support I truly appreciate it!!
      I guess it depends how fluffy the jacket is hehe
      I think if you shoot 6 pepperballs at someone wearing a heavy jacket, at least 2 or 3 should open up and disperse. Soft is not a problem, fluffy is more of an issue :)

  • @Randoverse
    @Randoverse Před měsícem +1

    To be fair, a gun is better but these have their own advantages as well. Lighter, way less recoil, indoors wont deafen you, easier to obtain and use.

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před měsícem +1

      Absolutely. And adding that in most countries in the world where people don’t have guns, something like could be your best bet

  • @user-tg8kr6he8u
    @user-tg8kr6he8u Před 4 měsíci

    On the z, Rams, how many is in a package

  • @rodrigojose2096
    @rodrigojose2096 Před měsícem

    I didn't find a store that ships to Brazil. If anyone knows, please let me know. It's only available in one store here, and it costs almost €3.00 per unit!

  • @ST33368
    @ST33368 Před 11 měsíci

    Keep uploading the Videos are on it 🔫🔫🔫💥💥💥

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      Will do :) thank you my friend! 🙌🏼

  • @j-fb4596
    @j-fb4596 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I like airguns, but i'd rather take a crossbow or bow for home defense

  • @ThirdEyeLazerClinic
    @ThirdEyeLazerClinic Před 11 měsíci +1

    Hey guys, forgive my ignorance, but how would one connect a red dot sight onto the rails on each, and would a longer barrel with shroud help?

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      Hello! Yes absolutely, a longer barrel would help with speed and, above all, accuracy. And you can attach any standard laser to the rail under the barrel :)

    • @ThirdEyeLazerClinic
      @ThirdEyeLazerClinic Před 11 měsíci

      @@AirgunAlley I've been in touch work mercury rise, regard UK distribution, I've got lots of projectile ideas, but I have trouble mounting my red dot on b my hdr 50,

    • @ThirdEyeLazerClinic
      @ThirdEyeLazerClinic Před 11 měsíci

      Ps like your delivery,

  • @jimbobaby1468
    @jimbobaby1468 Před 17 dny

    i can attest to their customer service . it is very good . wish i can upgrade soon .!!!!

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 9 dny

      Thanks so much for that! Very important input. Thank you!

  • @karyellis681
    @karyellis681 Před 9 měsíci +1

    How much is the gun I want to buy one

  • @bryanbrennan2827
    @bryanbrennan2827 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hi! Air power is No Joke i have 2 miltitary grade .22.i would NOT want to get hit with one!
    Why not check ouT GIRODANI.

  • @HarshmanHills
    @HarshmanHills Před 11 měsíci +1

    slap a small red dot on that and that thing is epic

  • @paintedpreppers-airguns
    @paintedpreppers-airguns Před 11 měsíci

    bahahaha that intro....awesome

  • @f.xavier1842
    @f.xavier1842 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Merci pour les quelques mots en français que tu mets dans tes vidéos 👍👍👍

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Hahahab de rien mon amie! I figured, since Umarex is largely French - to use a French voice :) 🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @KiLLJOY1056
    @KiLLJOY1056 Před 11 měsíci +1

    What is the most accurate T4E that youve found?

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci

      Good question my friend! I think the HDR 68 is decent. Surprisingly the HDS 68 I found to be quite accurate from around 30ft (10m). I just aline my eye with the barrel to aim 😂
      But now that I’m also shooting PCP, I’m learning what real accuracy means… hehe

  • @NuisancePanda
    @NuisancePanda Před 11 měsíci +1

    Would you review a Grimburg Gavel?¿?¿?

  • @douglassinclaire9968
    @douglassinclaire9968 Před 10 měsíci +1

    rune rebel and the t4e channel cannot be found, bad link, but calebs works fine.

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 10 měsíci

      Thank you so much for this!!! I just fixed it. Really appreciated my friend

  • @mastersodamastasoda1980
    @mastersodamastasoda1980 Před 11 měsíci +2

    For this one, I've been waiting.

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Hehe! Glad I finally got around making it. Hope it was satisfying…

  • @popeye8268
    @popeye8268 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Tanks for your test umarex win the battle it is more strong 💪

  • @georgesheptak5657
    @georgesheptak5657 Před 8 měsíci

    What size backpack do you need to carry one of these?

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 8 měsíci

      I think any medium sized woman’s purse would easily carry these :)

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 8 měsíci

      Or there are great holsters made for them

  • @user-od6vu3id5w
    @user-od6vu3id5w Před 7 měsíci

    Can I buy n store or where can I get

  • @FREEDOMNOW33
    @FREEDOMNOW33 Před 7 měsíci

    The only 50 cal I carry is the S&W 500 magnum 4inch barrel.

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 7 měsíci

      Yes but this is an airgun channel

    • @FREEDOMNOW33
      @FREEDOMNOW33 Před 7 měsíci

      @@AirgunAlley Yes but having one on you and a cop sees it . A cop is going to think its a real gun . We know what happens then . People have been shot dead holding the air guns .

  • @k9aid514
    @k9aid514 Před 10 měsíci

    Ineresting on the degassing technique I emailed Air guns Canada and Umerex and both said there was no way to degas

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 10 měsíci +1

      You raise a good point. Degassing the Umarexs like that is much the common way, but not sure if it’s the orthodox way. That’s def one thing that the Torpedo revolver got right, I mush say

    • @k9aid514
      @k9aid514 Před 10 měsíci

      @AirgunAlley at the time, all I knew was to dry fire to empty c02

  • @HarrySweeten
    @HarrySweeten Před 23 dny

    I like the design of both guns since I would be less likely to grab a real gun in the dark to deal with a raccoon getting it to my trash can.

  • @pauloalves797
    @pauloalves797 Před 11 měsíci +2

    maravilha der pistola muito forter gostei do tester ja deixei oliker

  • @dragoncoolproduction6329
    @dragoncoolproduction6329 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Hey i'm french and i like your accent
    Je depli mblue :)

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Hahahaha merci tres beaucoup mon ami :)

  • @checkitout4740
    @checkitout4740 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Looks like Umarex gets the Thumbs Up for this video, but
    the Torpedo Rounds still have
    different Payload Options.

    • @AirgunAlley
      @AirgunAlley  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yess!! And some good news just came in directly from Mercury Rise… they will soon be coming out with power tuning kits and barrel extensions… so things could get very interesting :)

  • @wc1630
    @wc1630 Před 11 měsíci +1

    With that power of ka HDR you do no harm. That's why I took mine to 25, now if the one who receives the impact with steel balls is going to feel it. I took it to more than 35 J but it is a lot and uncomfortable since in order for it to have autonomy I shoot with a 350-gram garraha in place, instead of the 12-gram one.

  • @davidr4523
    @davidr4523 Před 8 měsíci

    Great video but I wish he would have give a final decision of which gun he preferred. He just went through each test without saying who the winner was.

  • @gasslight5498
    @gasslight5498 Před 8 měsíci

    I carry outside my home as well as at home. In a self defense or defense of others "outside my home" I'm sure that the legal ramifications of using a firearm would probably be greater than if I am using a (so called) less lethal weapon. I live in TN a constitutional carry state (no permit required) and I did carry my .45 for a while and also my .22LR but now I carry a less lethal loaded with heavy rounds or custom type rounds. I have a USCCA membership but believe a I am safer from our own law enforcement system with the less lethal. By the way I am an excellent shot and practiced. I would always advise sufficient practice.