How to choose the right skid steer loader bucket
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
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Specialty buckets manure fork, buck rake, grapples, Stone screens.
Yeah I was thinking a tree spade bucket...
Good info. BTW-fix that leg on the shelving unit before the whole thing comes crashing down.
Higher grade steel buckets are sometimes lighter because you don’t actually need as much steel....
Great video and information. Would love to see more videos related to skid steers and compact track loaders. Thanks!
My knees are aching just watching you kneel in that bucket!
Good job explaining Neil
Another Great video 👌, thank you Neil
Excellent and informative video. Thank you
I would love a little more info on that serrated bucket edge. Let's see it in action vs. a toothed or strait edge!
We’ve got a manure bucket, where the attachment plates and back wall are sloped back in such a way to get a lot of rollback. A non issue for manure is the dumping, so the missing dump angle isn’t a big deal, but the rollback angle is much better.
Thanks for Sharing .Interesting
this was great now do one on the different fork ones
Good information, i am looking for 5 in 1 Bucket
I wish you had spent some time on skid steer bucket types. Like low profile vs standard.
I always wondered why skid steer bucket have a specific shape when seen from the side ?
Compact tractor bucket of similar capacity have a different profile and skid steer bucket work better in my experience
specialty built and designed to specification of the customer demands maybe
Good video, good information. At 2:50min however, you make a comment about high grade steel weighing more than low grade steel. In general all steel (not including heavily alloyed) have very similar specific gravities so per cubic inch of steel material they will weigh the same. A higher grade steel will be able to be thinner and provide a similar strength to a lower grade steel that is thicker, so the lower grade steel will carry a weight penalty if constructed to the same strength specifications.
Thanks. I sort of figured that, but the document I was following said as a guideline you can compare weights. Thanks for your expertise.
@@MessicksEquip if comparing 2 grade 50 buckets and one is heavier it's obvious the heavy one has more steel in it, ie reinforcements, etc
Neal, question? I work for your oil vendor for Kubota lubricant products. We are seeing an increase in the number of gallons for AW iso 46 hydraulic oil. What machine or machines that Kubota builds use it?
Excavators
I often see compact tractor owners using the piranha or wicked tooth bar but I don’t see a lot of skid steer owners using it. Can you explain why and what cutting tooth bar is the best for skid steer bucks when digging or land clearing?
All marketing. Those companies target small tractor owners. Lots of companies do skid loader buckets. Basically all the same.
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Link still broken
I have a TC33DA compact tractor with a 14LA loader on it. Off hand, I do not remember the lict capacity of the 14 LA. I am wondering how to select a grapple bucket for it.I am hoping to go with either a 60 or 66 inch wide unit. I will be carrying limbs and brush up to a half mile each trip. Given a specific Lift Capacity, how do you determine the Weight of the Grapple for max strength while also getting max load in it? sdh in CT any specific recommendations?
60" wide, don't overthink it. You'll never notice the weight difference between most grapples. Style is important, quality, etc.. people overvalue weight.
But can I get real strength without needing extra weight? I had a Koyker and it essentially self destructed because of light material or poor design. It was fairly light so I was able to lift reasonably good grabs of wood or rock. sdh in CT
@@steveholton4130 That little tractor isn't going to destroy a grapple bucket, even if you buy a cheap one, bad operating will though
I'd echo this.
Neil, is everything ok? Your recent videos have seemed less chipper.
Tired and rushed. I've been traveling a lot.
FYI - The grade of steel does not determine weight. Steel has a density of .2836 lb/in3 - regardless of the "grade" of steel as you refer to. The weight of the product might actually be contributed to poor design.
Hey Neil, I'm a welder/fabricator and have done my fair share of work building new buckets for excavators and front end loaders as well as repairing damaged ones.
generally speaking there is very little actual difference in the weight of different grades of steel, even looking at two type that are wildly different in properties like your bog standard mild steel compared to 304 stainless, the mild is around 7850 KG per cubic meter, and the stainless is around 8050 KG per cubic meter, despite the stainless containing 8% nickel and 18% chromium, with alloy's that are closer together like mild steel to 350 grade medium strength and AR500 wear plate your talking fractions of a percent difference in weight.
As far as what characteristics you want in the steel is a different story, the two most common failures due to use are cracking at high stress points (the corners of the bucket, where the attachment pin lugs are welded on ect) and wear on the leading edge, so you want a ductile steel that has some give to it for the body of the bucket so that it flexes rather than cracks and a hard wearing steel for the working edge, and these two properties are to an extent are at odd's with each other, steels like bisalloy/AR 400 or are very hard wearing and last a long time on the leading edge, but are much more brittle than mild steel.
So my preference, and I find that longest lasting buckets are made with a LOW grade, ductile steel like G250 grade mild steel, while the working edges should be made of Bisalloy/AR 360 or 400 wear plate, and ideally you want the wear plates to be bolted onto the main bucket rather than welded on, as welding wear plate to mild steel gives are a fairly brittle weld that will crack over time, it also makes changing out the wear plates a lot easier.
having seen the marketing Jargon with companies saying they use "50'000 PSI steel unlike our competitors who use 36'000 Psi steel" and seen the real world effects of that, I find it to be complete BS, tensile strength is not a huge deal when you consider that a piece of 2x2 inch by 1/8th inch thick 250 grade square tubing has a yield strength of 18 tonnes, and the higher the tensile strength of the steel, the more likely it is to fail from cracking and most catastrophic failures with any machinery you see will be from structural members cracking over time at a stress riser (where two parts are welded together mostly), not an outright failure of the material , I'd go for lower grade steel by design on a bucket for this exact reason, even if I were constrained to use the same thickness steel to build a bucket with either 250 or 350 grade, I'd still go with the 250 (although I would go 1/8th inch or so thicker depending on the size of the bucket with the 250 if given the choice)
Most of it is not "applications and science". It is obfuscation,(the action of making something obscure, unclear, or unintelligible), and they do this through the use of gimmicky language and no full disclosure on materials and parts used.
Thanks. We are all dumber for having watched this. Utility vs. Dirt, etc etc