Tesla Model Y vs Kia Niro EV
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- How does the Telsa Model Y compare to the Kia Niro EV now that I have driven my Niro for over 2 years? In this video I show you a side-by-side comparison as well as my impressions on acceleration, handling, and road noise, among other things. The Tesla Model Y was on my want list when I ordered my Niro EV in 2018, but it was not available at the time, so this video is a great way for me to explore and share what I missed and did not miss.
A big thank you to Patrick Beauchamp for letting me use his Model Y to make this video, I really appreciate it.
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2021-07-04 UPDATE: The Standard Range Model Y may come back! This article gives hope that Tesla will offer the well priced Model Y SR everywhere in the future.
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00:00 Intro
00:19 Version of the Y
00:52 Side by side
02:02 Overhangs
02:46 Trunk and storage comparison
05:57 Rear passenger room
06:53 The amazing roof
07:32 Charge port
08:09 Frunk and 12V battery
10:01 The driver seat
11:34 How does it drive?
12:51 Road noise impression
14:12 Acceleration
15:32 Handling
16:41 Did you know?
17:51 What I think of the Y
19:03 Things I don’t like
20:46 Bloopers - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Just traded my 2018 Niro PHEV in and picked up my 2020 Niro EV yesterday. It was brought from another dealership and they had to put about 120 miles on my car to get it there and after I drove it for a few errands and got it home it was at 65%. After giving it a full charge on a level 2 unit it listed its range at 289. I drove it 26 miles today while using regen 3 in eco mode and it was showing 273 miles left. Thought that was very impressive. I very much appreciate your channel and can say it helped influence me to go full EV as range anxiety was keeping me from doing this. Thank you for all your hard work and great reviews as it was very valuable in my decision.
Congratulations on your new Niro EV, I am glad you are enjoying it, and that I could help you make the move. That is why I do this 😎
Congrats. My mother and me both have a tesla model 3 and after my brother couldn't get a model y I recommended niro ev. He's extremely happy with it.
Good review! I got my Kia Niro EV for $28,500 after tax rebate out the door. My friend just got the long range Tesla Y for just under $60k out the door. For the price 13 cu ft of storage 1 foot of room and 90 miles more on a charge to me wasn't worth more than $30k or 2x the price. These 2 cars are in a different class. Please explain that while you are sitting in the extra trunk space next time.
You due do a good job with all the details in your review. Ty You are the first youtuber I am a subscriber to. Keep it up
Thank you for the info and thank you for subscribing, I really appreciate it. As for sitting in the trunk, I should have done it 😂. In the video I compared the Standard Range version of the Model Y, not the Long Range, and the Model Y SR was actually less expensive than the Niro EV SX Touring so the comparison is pretty fair. The claimed ranges are also comparable with the Niro EV having 1km more at 385km claimed, but the Niro EV easily gets over 400km on one charge on a regular basis, and beats out the Model Y SR because Tesla claimed ranges are optimistic. Thanks again for subscribing and the Niro EV was a great choice, congratulations 😎.
@@EV-olution WOW I idnt realise the Model Ys where so "cheap" the second hand market in the UK for the E Niro must have collapsed as I juts got one for £13k and cheapest model Y in the country is £25K so the comparison is now way off.
@flanagon360 yes, prices have changed quite a bit in the 3 years since I made this video. With the new version of the Niro EV it is not surprising that the previous version has dropped in price, which is a good thing for anyone looking for an excellent EV on a smaller budget. At the price you paid it is a fantastic car for the range, comfort and available space. Thanks for taking the time to watch my video, I really appreciate it.
When I first got my MY I was having a difficult time with the lack of buttons. For instance, opening the glove box. But I quickly realizes that almost everything can be done by voice control. Press the right button on the steering wheel and say open glove box. No need to stretch across the car, spill your ice coffee, and search with your fingers for the small latch to eventually open the glove box. Or say open hatch, or open frunk, or open charge port, or turn on drivers seat warmer to medium…..you get the point. Almost no need to ever take your eyes off the road. Also, every switch that is deleted removes three points of potential failure….the micro switch within the switch, and a wiring connector on either end of the wire connecting the switch to the ECU. Thanks for another great video.
Thanks for the information and I agree with you, but my comment about buttons comes more from a space where I think of other people, like my wife and not myself. Teslas will never be a car that my wife would buy because she is not technically inclined in any way. Think of her as being an 8 track tape whereas I am online streaming 😎. So if the car is too far from "normal" in terms of use, like opening the glove box, it becomes an issue for some people. My wife's comfort zone is her 2019 Kia Soul EV, with a regular shifter on the console and basic features; when she drives my Niro EV she very much dislikes the LKA and other tech included, so there is no way she would drive a Tesla, which is a shame because they are great. I hope that explains where my comment is coming from in a more clear way 😎
Well, I'm sure the fan orientation is not voice activated... I find it dangerous and hard adjusting them while driving (2-finger adj.) This would benefit of more manual accès. I also wounder how much to replace one of these fan motor.
@@yaniklandry-ducharme6877 Had my Model 3 since 2019 and never had to do that whilst driving! Why would the fan motor be costly? It just blows air like every other one.
@@yaniklandry-ducharme6877 I don't know what it would cost to replace a fan either but I can certainly vouch that it will cost double insuring a M3 than it would insuring a KIA Niro EV. It's due to proprietary nonsense by Tesla. You can only go to Tesla to have your car repaired. Their labor rates, and their parts. They refuse to give out parameters for parts so other manufacturers can make them to cut the costs. Want to make Musk even richer and more smug than he is already buy a Tesla.
@@MrAdopado these fan are moved by a motor. That's on too many parts. And it's written Tesla on it... Pricy.
Nice video, thanks. Niro was among the first electrical SUV cars. Discret, economic in that category (~1600kg for 64 kWh). Clever design, very efficient. Wouldn't change my mind nowadays, especially when i have to drive and park in town.
Thank you, I am glad you like my video.
Great detailed comparison Andre! Thanks for bringing this to those of us who can't get the Model Y yet!
Thank you very much. I am glad you liked it, it was fun to make 😎
Great comparison, Andre! Just got my first EV, a Model 3 SR+ and I love it. Amazing drive!
Thank you very much and congratulations on your new Model 3, it is a lot of fun to drive 😎
I got my 2020 Niro EV Plantnum yesterday and I love it. It was very easy at Kia and told me everything I needed to know about the Kia. It's been a few hours and I can't wait to drive it.
Congratulations on your new Niro EV, I am sure you are going to love it.
@@EV-olution My family thank you for all the videos you made. Because of your videos we were able to make a decision on what EV was best for us. We appreciate you and your channel. Blessings!
It is my pleasure, I am glad that I could help.
Thanks Andre! I'm in my Niro for the long haul, but it's good to see this! By the time I retire the Niro, I know my shopping options will really be wide open.
It is my pleasure (and was fun). The Niro EV is a great car, I still love mine.
If only we could get the model Y at Niro prices here in the UK. The Niro is readily available at around £30,500 with a good discount making the Niro at least £15,000 cheaper and that simply cannot be ignored. I'd love the Y but as I'm a taxi driver here in the UK (currently running a 2018 leaf for work) my next BEV would have to be the Niro. Cheers
ModelY is a premium vehicle with advanced upgrades, technology, advance bio systems, audio, gaming, giga press engineering, super car speed, internet, SpaceX technology really the same price, what fantasy world you live in?
@@UncleTonyshotsauce obviously the world whereby the Niro was placed next to the Y in a comparison ;) wasn't that the point of the video. Cheers
@Fancy a Bev Mate. The Standard Range Model Y in the video was actually less expensive than the Niro EV SX Touring in the video, but unfortunately the SR Model Y was recently discontinued and the one in the video was one of the last ones available in the Montréal area about one month ago. I really hope that the new Giga factories in Texas and Germany will allow Tesla to offer the Standard Range Model Y again because it was a great deal.
@@UncleTonyshotsauce
What are you doing here mate?
I love tesla but everybody should review or drive tesla?
If you can't agree others opinion, you don't have to watch this video. You are just harming tesla brand by trashing everyone's comment section. (Wasn’t tesla's mission transitioning ev revulsion?)
@@UncleTonyshotsauceTeslas are just soooo boring. Everyone's driving a Tesla these days. Well at least the boring uninteresting types.
And the looks of Teslas is ugly too.
Thank you for this. For me, this was your most interesting video so far.
Thank you very much. I am working on more.
Thanks, well done. I am in Canada as well, so good to get a perspective in our geography. Subscribed.
Thank you very much, I appreciate it 😎
Nice comparison of the two vehicles. Availability of vehicle choices is a deciding factor when the need arises for a purchase for me. I still like all of the buttons in my Niro EV and I prefer the dash layout, gauges, and the display of the Niro. I plan on keeping my Niro EV for a few more years as I am very satisfied with it and it has met my expectations. A rolling cover for a large glass roof top would be my preference. I’m sure there will be many more choices in a year or two. André, I really appreciate your videos!!!
I agree about the retracting sunshade, like in the Ioniq 5, all glass roof cars should have it as standard. I am glad you like my videos, thanks for watching 😎
Great video Andre! I love my Niro EV but I'm watching the EV6 very closely...
Thank you very much.
HI Andre, I am with you 100%. If the Model Y was an option at the time when the Niro EV hit the Canadian shores (Apr 2019) I may have picked the Model Y (the Model 3 was too small for me). However I am still very happy with the Niro, don't regret the decision not to wait, and probably going to keep it for many more years. BTW I rather have a few buttons more ;-) then a few too little.
Another great personal perspective video Andre. Wait for the EV6.
Thank you very much, and I will be all over the EV6 😎
nice review - worth your time doing it for us
It is my pleasure and I had fun doing it 😎. Thank you.
great reviews. Andre, I used to live in Montreal.. You are really good at what you do. You deserve more subscribers. subscribed and keep in touch. Jay
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it.
Les moudit bibit! Lol..
I always look forward to your video's, Cheers Andre!
Thanks Andrew 😎
One of the things I like THE MOST about my Niro EV are all the physical buttons in the cockpit. I like to be able to do things with a push of a button. Not looking for everything in a menu on a screen. That would drive me NUTS and I'd probably sell the car soon.
Like the a/c and radio and stuff. Seat heater and heating of the steering wheel. Yeah I just like my most common buttons within grasp 👍
I like buttons as well. The Tesla has gone too far in removing them, to my liking, but I found the Niro EV has far too many (73 to be exact 😎). In my video about the things I hate about my Niro EV, it is one of the things I show. I like my EV6 because it is a good middle ground between too many and not enough. The nice thing is there are different cars with different things to make each of us happy 😎. Thanks for taking the time to watch my video.
Very much looking forward to your videos later this year.
I'm looking hard at the next generation cars such as the ID4, ioniq 5 and ev6, but the price is a bit high for me. A niro in 2022 should in theory be a decent amount cheaper, and I'd love to know if the differences of the next Gen are worth it.
Thank you and I will do my best to let everyone know what I think of the ID.4, Mach-E, Ioniq 5, EV6, and more 😎
Thanks! I really enjoyed this video. I appreciate all the comparisons so I can make an informed decision before buying! Up here in Northern Minnesota I wonder how the extreme cold will affect the control screen.
I am glad that my video is helpful, thanks for taking the time to watch. Both cars are up here in the province of Québec and the screen has no issues, even when it is -35C; slow to start but it warms up quickly 😎 and if you preheat the cabin it's even better.
I also added the secondary rubber seals around the doors and got a 3db improvement in sound; though I was very careful to get this right. The front door seal in the foot well is very important to get right.
Thanks for the information. I did not know it made that much of a difference.
Very helpful and informative video. Thanks.
Thank you, I am glad that I could help 😎
Very nice and balanced comparison, thank you. In Europe model Y is still not available but even model 3 is more expensive than Kia eNiro so there is that factor to consider as well. Now I'm waiting for Tesla to reveal their compact model announced some time ago. The world is changing.
Thank you very much. With the Giga Factory in Germany going live later this year availability should soon be fixed in Europe 😎.
Great comparison, thanks from an e-niro owner!
Thank you very much.
Hands-down I believe the Kia Niro EV beats the Tesla overall. I think my next vehicle will be a Hyundai ionic five EV . The Kia EV6 it’s just not my cup of tea for the price. Great video thanks for the comparison.
Good comparison thanks. The e-Niro is a great car and I love mine but its last generation and not designed from the ground up as an EV. A fairer comparison to the Model Y would be the upcoming Hyundai Ioniq 5 or Kia EV6 which I think will provide stiffer competition for the Model Y
Thank you, and I agree. I mention the fact that the Niro is not a ground up BEV in the video, but there are many people who were interested in seeing this comparison. Both the Ioniq 5 and EV6 are still not on Canada, but I will get to them when the opportunity arrives 😎
Nice video as usual. Tanks.
Merci beaucoup.
Great comparison, you can also compare safety rating!
Thank you very much. Unfortunately there is no NHTSA, or NCAP crash data for the Niro EV, but I am pretty sure that Tesla would win that comparison 😎
Great video, thanks.
Merci 😎
Great comparison!
To your comment / wishes about having more buttons - and dont deal with the touch screen: in many cases you dont have to; press right button on the steeringwheel - and say: open glovebox,, turn on the wipers,, adjust volume to 7,, navigate to starbucs,, And so it goes👍🇳🇴
Thank you very much. I have been learning a lot about the Y and have been told the voice controls are quite good as compared to other cars.
Great video, thanks!
Thank you very much.
Great review though and I agree with many of his points. If the cars were the same price I'd definitely go for the Y.
Thank you, I appreciate it 😎
ive been waiting for this…. Yell for Niro.. Go👏🏽niro👏🏽GO👏🏽
I am glad you like it 😎
Another great review, though it would have been interesting for you to have had the Y for longer to see how it compared in real world efficiency and range. IMO this is a bit of an apples/oranges comparison in terms of size and price. We don’t have the Model Y in Europe yet but the standard range is likely to be about €10,000 more expensive than the e-Niro. The Y is a desirable car and a whole category of size bigger, I would see the Kia EV6 as more of a competitor in that respect. As I’m retired I am in for the long haul with the e-Niro as I doubt another new car would ever be on the cards. The more I drive it the more I like it and realise what good value it is (now on 44,000 km)...but of course the tech is moving so fast that its charging speed for one thing is already looking old...then again so am I!
Merci beaucoup and I agree that the Model Y is a different vehicle, but there are many people who consider both the Niro and the Y, like I did, when I was shopping. Since there are no size comparison videos anywhere it can be difficult for people to imagine what they are like and that is the reason that I made the comparison. For those who are visual like me stats and numbers are of little use, but seeing the vehicles together makes things clear. Regarding the Standard Range version of the Y, it seems that there are none left to be had and it really is discontinued. I just found this out yesterday. As for the EV6 and Ioniq 5, as soon as I can get my hands on them I will definitely be making videos about them 😎. Merci encore.
Nothing compares on earth to a model Y, giga press two part framing, Bio production, 20 speakers, gaming, updates and upgrades. Advance battery technology, super car speed, apparently everyone shouldn't be doing reviews on Tesla, stick to kia, Nio, VW, Mercedes and BMW etc none are in the same class
@@UncleTonyshotsauce I suspect you are right. The only thing constraining Tesla sales now is production capacity and the range of models they have but by the end of this decade there is no doubt that their sales volumes will be up there with the biggest and some OEMs will drop out or be much smaller as Tesla take sales from them. Not only is the ICE a dead technology, the sales model of the old OEMs is toast...just take oil changes as an example...with 35 million cars on the roads the UK spends about £3.5 billion on oil changes over year..probably more as the average price of an oil change is £114..and most people don’t do them themselves!.....that’s a lot of labout no longer needed...there will be a lot of unemployment as we no longer need so many mechanics...Tesla are a true disrupter taking us towards a cleaner future.
@@EV-olution Indeed very different vehicles. Of course the Model Y is sexier than the e-niro, but in the netherlands the former is likely going to cost arround 20.000 euros more than the latter. That is not a small amount.
I'm quite happy with my e-niro which comes with 7 years of warrantee as opposed to tesla with its sub-par services. There is a lot of innovation going on in the EV market and when I need to replace my e-niro, the landscape of best EV's most like would look very different again.
i loved ur video Sir thank you there is only one thing if i may
your belt buckle wasnt centered :))
I realized it too late 😂. It drives me crazy to watch the video because of it 🤣
Very interesting! Power hatch on the Y? Enjoyable bilingual bloopers! ✌🏻
Thank you, and yes, the Y had a power lift gate. The new Kia EV6 and Ioniq 5 will be more comparable to the Y.
Bravo pour le comparatif. On ne peut commander que la model Y long range en France, donc hors budget pour moi. Mais le Niro me plaît beaucoup (c’est juste le coffre qui me semble petit). La future EV6 a l’air très bien aussi. Bonne continuation pour les vidéos sur le E-Niro (ou Niro EV comme on dit au Québec)
Merci beaucoup. Avec l'arrivé de la Model Y Standard Range en Chine j'ai espoir qu'elle sera de retour pour le reste de la planète un jour, et j'espère que ça sera plus tôt que tard. La EV6 devrait être excellent selon les vidéos que j'ai vus et sera un meilleur comparatif avec la Model Y. J'ai très hâte de la voir en personne. La e-Niro est vraiment superbe et le coffre est très logeable; il semble plus petit en vidéo qu'en personne 😎
I can see why you like the pano sunroof in snowy Canada, but I find it to be too hot and very loud in the Model3s that I have drove in down here in sunny LA. Much prefer a roof that can close to provide more insulation from heat and sound.
Are you going to do a video on the EV6? Seems super promising.
The Ioniq 5 wins for the glass roof, the retractable sun shade is amazing. Regarding the EV6 and the Ioniq 5, as soon as I can get access I will make videos, but right now there are only 3 show cars of the Ioniq 5 in Canada, at Hyundai headquarters, about 700km away.
Interesting comparison Andrew. The Model Y is still no available in Europe but whenever it comes it will be far more expensive than the eNiro, at least in Spain. I've purchased the eNiro and I'm very happy with it but I consider the Tesla a much better car.
Love your videos!
Thank you. The Model Y in this video is the Standard Range (SR) version, and was not expensive. It was actually less expensive than the Niro EV SX Touring, but Telsa discontinued the SR version early this year. I think it was not expensive enough for them.
Chances are that there will be a Model Y SR for Europe since distances are a lot smaller.
I've never thought of comparing Niro to Y. But, you've gave me an idea. It's whole lot cheaper to get the next gen Niro, maybe 2023ish. Hahahaaa
Actually the Kia EV6 and Hyundai Ioniq 5 should be an interesting comparison.
About the charge-port not closing the same way you can open it : is somewhat counter-intuitive. My wife tends to force it down although I tell her not to : it will close itself after X seconds, or you can from the menu on the left in Park mode.
Ah! Thank you very much. You are right, it isn't very intuitive. Thanks again.
Fantastic review- currently comparing these two vehicles. Wish Tesla still offered the SR Y - the LR AWD version adds alot of $.
@@EV-olution I had heard the same and asked on the online chat feature but was told it was not available. Perhaps I need to go in and connect with a human.
It's weird, my reply to your first post, that I added using the YT Studio app, is no longer here, but I see that you read and replied to it!!!
My follow up answer, in case it disappeared before you got to read it, indicated that yes, it is 100% only available if you go in person to a Tesla store, or call them on the phone.
@@EV-olution that was strange
Huge difference in price in US. Just bought 2022 Kia EX. $43000 out the door price, 0% financing and $7500 tax credit. No contest
When I made this video, as shown in the beginning of the video, the Model Y Standard Range was still available and was the same price as the Niro EV top trim. With the SR version no longer being available the comparison is not as relevant.
WOW! merci André pour la Vidéo! je crois que grâce à elle je switcherai mon Niro 2019 aussi ;) Mais est ce que Tesla a retiré ce modèle du marché ici? je ne le trouve pas sur leur site, ils ont juste le AWD :(
Ça me fait plaisir 😎. Malheureusement la Standard Range de la Model Y a été discontinué par Tesla au mois de février de cette année 😕
Just what i was looking for thank you.
I am glad I could help. Hopefully Telsa will bring back the Standard Range Model Y soon.
@@EV-olution I was looking at model Y’s. But they keep raising the prices. I’ve seen the niro at the lot and was suggested it as well. I hope so too
@@QUiNTiNBANKS if you are not in a rush then you should consider the new Hyundai/Kia EV platform, the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and the Kia EV6. Depending on what country you are in they will hit the market very quicly, or if in the US and Canada, late this year and early next year. These new EVs have an 800V setup and new advanced EV tech.
@@EV-olution I’m in USA , do you know any 3 row seating Ev coming up ?
@@QUiNTiNBANKS unfortunately no, sorry.
waiting for the e-Sportage to compare as well
Hi. I’m in agreement with you on the modal y. On lack of service centres and the buying process.
Good job because you hit all the questions someone interested in a electric car would ask with out the bla-bla-bla. 🇺🇸
Thank you very much.
thank you very munch...for a very detailed video.
You are very welcome and thank you for watching.
Great video, however Price is king for many buyers and in UK my eniro3 cost me £37,000 in Nov 21 with metallic paint, 2 years servicing and mats. A friend has just ordered a Tesla model Y similar extras and it was nearly £60,000, That's £23,000 more, a lot more car but way above my budget.
Thank you, and I agree. It is unfortunate that the Standard Range Model Y was discontinued because the price was essentially the same and made for am interesting alternative.
That's an interesting point about the Hyundai sun shade. I have a deposit down on the KIA EV6 and am wondering which we'd like better between the KIAand Hyundai, for family duty and car camping kind of use. Atm we have a Tesla 3 LR to trade in.
It will depend on your use case, but from what you mention I think the Ioniq 5 will suit your needs better. It has a hight roofline and more space in the rear than the EV6. The EV6 is more sporty and driver oriented though. You will really have to try both to know for sure.
You rebadged the Kia trunk Emblem? Was it screwed or just glued? Saw one video of the Seltos had to remove interior panels and unscrew. Most just peel off with some effort.
I had it done when I got the car in early 2019, front and back. Here is the video that I made showing how it was done... czcams.com/video/vqtIHD55CnM/video.html
I’ve been looking for this review. CZcams has it well hidden!
Since this video is a bit older CZcams does not promote it anymore, but I am glad you found it. When I originally made it I received lots of comments that the comparison was rubbish, but I knew that there were people who would want to know what the differences were. Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it.
Très bon video André. Tu décris bien l’auto. Peut-être dans une émission future, tu pourras essayer et parler du auto-pilote. Le coffre-à-gant, je l’ouvre par la voie. ‘Open glove compartment’ et la petite porte pour l’électricité- tu n’a qu’à peser un peu plus fort sur la palette et elle se referme tout seul. Une chose que j’ai découvert il y a une semaine (ça fait 9 mois que j’ai ma Y), je peux parler à l’auto en français pour trouver mes chansons favories. Par exemple ‘jouer Ginette Renaud’ et la voiture comprend très bien, la voiture comprend aussi si je dis ‘jouer les Beatles’. Et oui il y a beaucoup de place à serrer des objets. Et j’ai fais un subscribe.
Si jamais tu veux filmer le auto-pilote, je demeure à Summerstown On, et notre belle route 2 longe le fleuve St Laurent. Il y a pleins de beaux croches que le auto-pilotes conduit de façon fantastique.
Merci beaucoup, j'apprécie, et merci pour l'offre! Étant donné que la vidéo est déjà plus de 20 minutes il fallait que je coupe à quelque part, mais effectivement auto pilot versus SCC de Kia serait bien comme video. Merci encore 😎
Hello André
The 2 and maybe only 2 things against the M.Y. are :
- price gap
- lack of CarPlay / Android auto.
Oh… and of course… you can’t have one in Europe yet.
The SR Model Y was actually less expensive than the Niro EV. Unfortunately Tesla discontinued it a few months ago. It's a shame that it is not available in Europe, but the Giga Factory in Germany will fix that soon 😎
I previously owned a Ford C-Max with a fixed glass roof and fabric sunshade. I currently have a BMW i3 with a similar glass roof, but it opens as well. I have found on a sunny day, a lot of heat comes through the glass roof. How is it with a Tesla?
I have not experienced it in high heat. Some say it is fine, while others indicate it can get hot. Tesla actually sells a sunshade that you can clip into the ceiling, and many users say that they drop the windows on a hot day before getting in.
Lots of detail about length, overhang, wheelbase etc but did I miss the width information? - We have narrow parking spaces in UK so this is a factor for us.
Good point, you did not miss it. Since both cars have similar width, with the Model Y being 3 inches wider, I forgot to mention it. Good catch, I will be sure to include that in my next comparison video. Thank you 😎
Here in the UK, especially in towns, roads and parking spaces are not wide and for our purposes (we don't usually need the extra width) I regard extra width as a negative. Also, the extra power is great but how often is it used and how does it affect efficiency? Longevity, reliability and after care service are important to me. I'm unsure about Tesla longevity and it's an important question given the high cost of these cars. I'd choose the Kia.
I understand about the extra size not being an advantage where you live, but with regards to longevity... There are Teslas with hundreds of thousands of miles on them and they are still going strong. One in particular comes to mind, an early Model S that was used as a taxi and accumulated 1,000,000 miles. I would not be concerned about quality with Tesla, they are known for having the best hardware and electronics in the world. The fit and finish are another story, but that does not affect longevity 😎
Interesting. You may also consider the towing capacity in your comparison.
Good idea, thanks. I did not think of it since the Niro EV in Canada is not rated for towing. I will make sure to talk about towing in my next comparison video. I already have a new EV lined up... it has a horse on it 😎
@@EV-olution That's the point. The Model Y can tow but the Niro can't.
The design and engineering behind the model y blows my mind
I agree 100%. Tesla is light years ahead in many aspects and the reason I think the Standard Range Model Y was an incredible deal. It is a shame Tesla discontinued it.
@@EV-olution When the Austin and Berlin factories are up and running I suspect there will be a revision of the Model Y line. It will effectively be a different car with the one-piece castings and 4680 cells. Production costs will be lower and volumes higher so a cheaper base model is likely to become available.
I think you are correct. I look forward to the factories opening because if prices do come down at Tesla it will force other manufacturers to follow. Time will tell.
Salut André, encore une fois bravo encore une très bonne comparaison entre les deux véhicules et pour moi le problème avec Tesla c'est Tesla. Kia comme tu mentionne il y a beaucoup de concessionnaire et côté service je n'ai pas un mot à dire. Je serais curieux de savoir le service à l'air de quoi chez Tesla et la garantie. Bonne chance avec les bibittes 🐜🐝🐞🦗🕷LOL !!!!!!
Merci beaucoup 😎. Selon les propriétaires de Tesla Model 3 et Model Y dans les groupes sur Facebook, le service de Tesla à Montréal et très bon.
Love your video!
Why do I think of The Matrix when I listen to you ? 😂
Mr. Anderson... are you sure you don't know? 😂🤣😂🤣
@@EV-olution exactly omfg haha
But to be honest, that was a compliment. You are extremly articulate.
I Am really having a hard time in picking cars. Is there a chance that you could help push me in the right direction ?
The basic question is... What are your needs? Hatchback, or sedan? AWD required, or is FWD/RWD ok? More passenger room needed, or not? What is the budget?
EVs today have lots of range and speedy charging, and there is a nice selection, especially if your can wait a few months because new models are going to ship.
Once your answer the basic questions then you can start picking an EV.
@@EV-olution budget is around 430-46000Euro (Sweden has a climate bonus of 7000euro when buying a new car)
The car is meant for the family, to kids (13 and 16years) and a small dog. We do not need awd nor hatchback but of course it would be nice. I'd prefer rwd for a change since I'm used to fwd from owning a volvo v70. I prioritize (but is not a must) to have good comfort and overall good user experience (infotainment and sunroof etc) and a good charging netwoork with hassle free charging.
We will be charging at home mostly, we take longer trips 1-3 times a year within Sweden(mostly).
So the only must have I can think of is maybe adaptive cruise control and some kind of autopilot. I like the "safety features that cars offer and camera features ...
I have been reading and doing some research on the m3 but I'd like someone else objective perspective... I mean I feel sometimes like I'm being brainwashed from all the commercials and other rewiewers trying to promote a certain kind car so I am also opening my eyes on for example the id3/id4.
To be honest, the m3 ticks almost every box of features I want. In the beginning I was looking for range, what car could go the furthest in my budget on highway10-80% battery at speeds between 110-130kmph?
I really love the infotainment system they have and how snappy it is , cause according to me that gives you the overall user experice, that and the panorama sun roof....
The cons I have red are the loud noise inside the car at least compaired to ps2 and id4 and that the seats are pretty hard during longer trips. Tesla is maybe not the best car built but it is the best EV imo.
Insurance in Sweden is pretty hard too. They have a system where the price goes up radically the fourth year , so either pay or swap cars every three years haha...
Regarding the price and model, I have read about the new battery standard from the m3 MIC sr+ but am a bit worried about it in cold winters, so maybe a used 2019-2020 LR is then a better choice for less money. Prices in Norway are so low I really can't believe it :)
sorry for babbling but any thoughts would be nice. Should I just wait and not buy one?
The Model 3 is a good choice especially since there are many used ones available in your market. There are not many choices for RWD EVs so the ID models or the Model Y are the only real choices that I can think of in the size, price and battery range.
Hope you review Ioniq 5 in near future. I pre-ordered one. Thanks.
That is the plan, once it becomes available in Canada 😎
@@EV-olution Looking forward to it.
I think the eSoul is the "car to beat".
Nice video. You must test kia ev 6 and ioniq 5 etc.
Thank you very much. As soon as they are available in Canada I definitely want to make videos about them.
Why do they not make a small crossover with just two seats. Many many people only need two sets but need a good side truck. I my 30 years of driving I have very seldom needed the back sets. This EV 1 would fit me well if it was a two seater.
What’s your thoughts on this would there be a market for a crossover with just two seats. This would give you longer range and cost less. Have there ever been a pole asking how often do you use the back seats and would you buy a shorter crossover without the rear seats.
I don't know of a pole for the use of back seats and I am not sure if a 2 seater would sell well in North America.
Tesla wins in every respect. Much bigger boot, you can fit a full sized pushchair in it, and it's got under bonnet storage. The Nitro is better than a petrol car, but nothing compared to the Tesla. I charge mine at home, (cable over pavement) and it's great for giving lifts to friends, they love the acceleration
The Model Y is a completely different vehicle and does not compare to the Niro EV, but at the time there were lots of people who wanted to see the differences. I am glad you are enjoying your Tesla, and thanks for watching.
On the Tesla, can I switch to a normal two pedal driving instead of the one pedal?
In Tesla vehicles you can enable creep mode, and set the regen to a lower level, essentially making it drive more similar to a gas car... so yes, you can.
People complaining about no access to the Tesla glovebox ignore several things. How often are you actually in your glovebox? Maybe just me, but hardly ever in the glovebox. If you need to access the glovebox, simply use voice command and say “open glovebox”. Everyone ignores the fact that a thief can’t get into the glovebox because there is no external access. You can even PIN protect the glovebox. On the current Model Y and 3, the Sentry Cam flash drive is located in the glovebox which prevents any thief or vandal from stealing the recorded evidence of their crime. So the glovebox has no button or latch, big deal.
I access my glovebox 3 or 4 times per week. I am often in my car and my glovebox stores lots of things that I use regularly, as does my central console storage. This is a personal thing and the reason I mention it in the video. For other people it won't be an issue, but that is the reason that I say "I would prefer more buttons" in the video, this is not a directive telling everyone they should have more buttons, just what I would like for myself. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it.
Did you have a chance to compare the efficiency of both?
Unfortunately no, this was a very short visit of the Model Y, everything was set up and recorded in 5 hours, so I did not get to spend any real time with the car.
You can use easy voice commands with the model Y like "open glove box" or "my ass is cold" for turning on heated seats
Thanks for the info. I had read about some of the voice commands, like "open butthole" and thought it was hilarious 😎
@@EV-olution I've had voice control in every car I've owned for the last 10 years, but have only ever used it in my Tesla....1. It's actually the easiest way to do some things and 2. the voice recognition seems to be better than in other cars I've driven
Why would it turn on the heated seats when you say "open glove box"?
@@kalleguld LOL Of course it just opens the glove box
I bought 2021 niro lxs for 26500(including tex license fee) I love this car
The Niro EV is an amazing car and I loved mine. Congratulations on your purchase, you are going to love it.
Two cars! Boom! 👍👍👍
Actually the lack of buttons just isn’t an issue. I’ve been driving a Model 3 for 8 months now and in fact there are large easy access buttons across the bottom of the screen for the heated seats and there are also voice commands for everything, that actually work. Also the indicators become completely natural after an hour or so, to the point now that I can’t imagine using anything else. If you have flicked the lever far enough, past the three flashes detent, for them to indicate continuously then they’ll self cancel if you turn the wheel far enough or you can just flick the lever in the same direction again to manually cancel them. The rear motor is about 270bhp, by the way but the Tesla motors have a maximum speed of over 18000rpm so they use a differential ration of about 10:1, hence the “impressive” acceleration 😉
Thanks for all of the details and feedback, I appreciate it 😎
@@EV-olution I forgot to say that the way the indicators work is actually very similar to most motorcycles: they usually have the indicator switch on the left hand handlebar and it’s a slider you operate with your left thumb: push it right or left to indicate and it then returns to the centre position and you push the switch in to cancel. Great video by the way, I test drove an e-Niro before ending up buying the Model 3 and if the Model Y ever goes on sale over here in the U.K. then it’ll be top of the list to replace the 3.
I had not considered that. I have owned 2 motorcycles and did not link the similarity.
Love that smile at 14:33
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I own both cars - a 2019 Kia E Niro and 2020 Tesla Model Y. I like them both but would be concerned travelling in the Kia due to charging times (max 50 kW versus 150 kW+) and the number of proprietary Tesla superchargers versus the hodgepodge of CCS chargers out there. Of course, not an apples to apples comparison as my Kia cost about $17,000 US less than my model Y ( about $40,000 - $7,500 tax credit versus $50,000).
That is where we have a big advantage in the province of Québec, not only is almost 100% of our electricity from renewables, but there are far more DCFC than Superchargers, and in places where you can't go with a Tesla unless you have the CHAdeMO adaptor. Also to note, the Niro charges at up to 77kW, my record was 76.7kW at a 150kW DCFC 😎. Hopefully Tesla will bring back the SR version of the Model Y because at the same price as the top trim Niro EV, the Niro EV's older tech becomes hard to justify. The new Kia EV6 will be a much better comparison, I am looking forward to early 2022 to be able to see one in Canada.
Do you get the 7yr 100000mile warranty on the Kia in the US? It makes the EV6 a very safe bet.
I would have to look at the US Website, but in Canada it is 160,000km and 8 years on the important parts of the EV.
@@EV-olution pretty comprehensive. I apologise for assuming you were American. My European ears aren't that good at telling the difference in accents.
The replies that I entered using the mobile CZcams Studio app seem to have disappeared! I had replied to your comment stating... "Not to worry and no need to apologize, the accents sound the same for the most part 😎"
Love the EV01+ rims. I have them on our Leaf.
They are great and added lots of effciency in city driving due to the low weight.
@@EV-olution I find they add significant efficiency at high speeds as well. Almost so much that I am starting to believe much of Teslas efficiency differential is in good wheels.
unfortunately not available in germany... 🙄
Interesting because they did not make a big difference as compared to the Niro EV stock wheels on the highway. Good design I suppose.
@flying penguins, it is a shame because they really are great.
The deal breaker for me is those low profile tires. Too expensive, harsh ride, reduce range and they don't like potholes.
I really don't understand why car makers insist on installing huge wheels on EVs when it is proven that smaller wheels are far more efficient (lots of articles and studies about this). I like my 17" Niro wheels and 400km of range 😎
How’s the highway consumption? In relation?
That is a good question. I made this video quite some time ago and did not do highway testing. It was a car that an owner lent me, not a press car. The 2019 - 2022 Niro EV has pretty good power consumption on the highway, but Tesla is the efficiency king. In the summer, with my Niro EV, driving on the highway at 113km/h in fair weather, I would get between 18 and 20kWh/100km. When I drove from Montréal to Québec City in the summer, it was 95% highway, I left with 100% charge and made it with about 65km of range left, but I don't remember the %. I did the same thing in the winter, cold with bad weather, and I had to stop to charge for 15 minutes. The drive distance in both cases was about 265km one way. In general my Niro EV would get 400km of summer range and 300km of winter range, with a mix of highway and city, but a bit more highway than city. I hope this helps.
Does Tesla include sunblock lotion with every purchase?
LoL. I have been told that the UV filter is very good, but I have not experienced the glass roof on a 35C day with a blazing sun. This is why I think the Ioniq 5 glass roof has a big advantage with the motorized, retractable sun shade.
I’ve had a trip at 35C. - the sun is not an issue.
@@sergelbergeron thanks for the confirmation, that is what I heard about it. Glad to know it's true.
When will you be able to drive the Ioniq 5 and EV6 in Canada?
Right now there are only 3 Ioniq 5 demo cars in Canada and nobody is driving them. The EV6 is still not in Canada.
@@EV-olution let's hope you get them both soon. 👍
If Hyundai would listen to my request it would be nice, but so far nothing.
OK, a new comment on an OLD video. This writer owns a 2019 Niro, and likes it muchly. Right now it and I are on a long road trip. I will take the Niro EVERY DAY for the serviceability aspect. SideBar Andre, how about a comparison of the 02nd generation Niro to the original. I am sore tempted to upgrade to the new version.
That is a great idea and is in my list. The issue is that I have been so busy with my company that I have not had the time to make a video in almost a year. I have a product to review, sitting on my desk since early last year, and several press cars available, I just need to figure out the time issue. Thanks for watching and commenting. The Niro EV is a great car and I loved my 2019.
I don't know where he got the pricing. My Kia Niro EV was $39,000 US, substantially less than the Model Y or Model 3. Also, Kia still qualifies for the $7500 US federal tax rebate while Tesla's rebates have expired here (based on the quantity of sold units). Thus, in my opinion, the Kia is a much better value. Last of all, I like the Kia's use of traditional controls rather than using a touch screen to run everything.
As shown in the at the beginning of the video, this was for the Standard Range Model Y and the Niro EV SX Touring, in Canada, and the SR Model Y was less expensive than the Niro EV SX, based on the Canadian MSRP. With that being said, the Niro EV is readily availble at many dealers now and can be had for about 52,000$ CDN, so pretty much the same price as the Standard Range Model Y if it was still available. Tesla had the Y SR off menu for many months, but the Model Y in the video was pretty much one of the last ones availble in Montréal (it is only about 1 month old). This means the SR is no longer available which is a shame because it would have continued to sell well since the price was excellent for what you got. The rebates are a different story though, the Niro is admissible for both the provincial and federal rebates where the Model Y was only admissible for the provincial rebate; so Niro EV = 13,000$ rebate, Telsa Model Y Standard Range = 8,000$ rebate, which can heavily influence the buying decision for some, but not all. Thanks for watching 😎.
I would love a comparison between IONIQ 5, Kia EV6, and Tesla Model Y.
When the Ioniq 5 and EV6 become available in Canada I will try and make that happen.
That's like comparing the lowest kia to a McLaren not in the same class as a Tesla
@@UncleTonyshotsauce 1) McLaren are overrated.
2) The build quality of Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6 is superior to the Tesla.
What’s the best hybrid for its buck?
That's a good question that has lots of questions to be able to answer. Do you need a sedan, or a crossover, or a van? Do you need more passenger room, or cargo room, or neither? Do you want to drive on electric more than on gas? What is your budget?
In my humble opinion they are not comparable even if brave, first of all for the price, in Italy +18.000 /20.000€ for the Tesla Y.
Will it be comparable to the EV6 (road test)?!
In Canada the SR version of the Model Y was less expensive than the Niro EV SX Touring, but unfortunately the SR was recently discontinued by Tesla.
i think now it would be a better comparison to review the model y against the new hyundai ioniq 5 or the new kia ev6. both seems to be a real banger and maybe a real option to the teslas. i always hear that tesla is way in front in the ev-game but what hyundai is doing atm can not be overlooked from those tesla-fanboys- and girls. its the first dedicated platform from hyundai while the niro or ioniq platform was thought as a hybrid, plug-in and ev. i will follow this chanel to see what is coming next.
Thank you very much and thank you for following my channel, it means a lot. Regarding the Ioniq 5 and EV6, I will eventually make videos about them, but they are not yet available in North America. Even worse, there are only 3 demo Ioniq 5 vehicles that arrived at Hyundai Canada headquarters in late June, 700km away from my house. In Canada there will be limited deliveries of the Ioniq 5 scheduled for late 2021, and the EV6 is supposed to be early 2022. I am trying to get Hyundai Canada to give me access to an Ioniq 5, but so far no luck. I think my channel needs to be bigger before Hyundai Canada pays attention... which sucks. I will do my best 😎
As an European, waiting for the German MY see if it can get the quality problems solved. The top trim Kia E-Niro is to have for about the same price 51000cad taxes and discounts applied. Inside is way better than a Tesla M3, but not so good in highway driving and long trips (DC charging and sound).
Tesla actual order MY in Europe is only for the dual motor long range and it is 87-89000CAD ! Unless there is a standard version, completely another price range, like an Audi or BMW.
Tesla is the iPhone of the cars: a pioneer with top technology qualities. Unfortunately building quality of the American and Chinese Tesla's is horrible so far. We expect a much better build German MY
Hopefully the German Gigafactory will produce well finished vehicles and hopefully Tesla will bring back the Standard Range version of the Y, the price was excellent for what you received.
I guess that now, you gonna have to compare it to their newer model.
Yes sir 😎
I think what most people seem to overlook is that Tesla is a premium brand. I know how Kia have come on and i am a fan boy but It's like comparing a BMW 3 series based model to a Rio SX in ICE terms. Having watched the issues TFL had trying to get their model 3 repaired after backing into a garage opening edge. I think I'll stick with the dealer network.
I disagree about Tesla being more premium. If you were to compare a BMW 3 Series to a Kia then it would not be with a Rio, it be compared with the Stinger, and in my opinion I would jump on the Stinger way before the BMW, but that's just me 😎
@@EV-olution precisely, the niro isn't the same kind of car to a model Y. Just to be clear I'm still choosing the Niro
Understood, and I partly agree, but I find that the overall quality of the Niro EV SX Touring to be on par with the Model Y. I don't find it looks or feels cheaper in any way and this is after having been in both side-by-side. As for choice... the Model Y SR would have seriously tempted me if it had been available when I ordered in 2018 😎
We are only just beginning to see Model Ys in the U.K. I was surprised how big it looked. Not a good thing in a country with parking spaces marked out for Ford Anglias (check Harry Potter to see what that is). There is a good reason the Ford F150 doesn't get sold here. The Niro looks to be a far more practical size.
I agree, the Model Y is not designed for European streets, just like the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6 which are bigger than the Niro EV.
So the bigger car has more space?
You have to know that the car is bigger to know that it has more space. You also have to see both cars together to get the idea of the full difference between the two. Since there are many people that are interested in the Niro EV and the Model Y, and that there are no videos like this, it is helpful for those people. Thanks for watching.
unless the glass-roof is well insulated you will feel like cold air coming from the glass in the wintertime! - apart from tha it seems to be a great car.
From what I have read it is not an issue, but I can't confirm from personal experience.
I can't say I've ever noticed that in the Model 3.
Button for the glove box?
Press the scroll button on the steering wheel.
Say "open glove box".
(Or 170+ other commands)
But does it translate to English (rather than American) where we call it the "glove compartment", not a "glove box"?
Yes, it is a personal preference, and I don't want to memorize over 170 voice commands just to do simple things, but it's OK if you like it, because it is your personal preference. Like I mention in my video, I would prefer a middle ground between the Niro EV button craziness and the Model Y's no buttons. The new Ioniq 5 and EV6 are good examples of what I am talking about. Thanks for watching.
You quickly adjust less buttons. Less buttons, less parts, cheaper to build with less parts to break.
I agree, but I think Kia and Hyundai have something with the new EVs and a more middle ground approach. We shall see when I get my hands on the EV6 and Ioniq 5 😎
@@roundel52 Either usage works.
The Niro seems like a more expensive, "swoopier" eSoul. I would buy the latter.
The Soul EV is based on the same smaller platform as the Hyundai Kona Electric and offers less rear passenger room and less trunk space than the Niro EV. That is a comparison video that I have to make. Thanks for the reminder.
I cracked up when u said kona, lol. Where I'm from kona means cu...n..t lol that's why Hyundai named it here hyundai kuaui ;-)
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Bonsoir excusez moi de vous déranger je vais être bientôt avoir une Niro électrique
Mais j’ai pris le modèle de base en France c’est le modèle Motion
Ce modèle ne possède pas le système Uvo connect peut on l installer soit même ou pas sûrement Kia l installe lors de la fabrication du véhicule sinon est il indispensable ou pas
Je voudrais savoir pourquoi avoir choisi le Niro et pas le Kona car ils sont équivalents question batterie (64) moi ce qui m’a fait choisir le Niro c’est le confort et l’espace le coffre plus grand
La console centrale du Kona est trop oppressante pas assez de fluidité à l avant merci encore pour vos vidéos depuis que j’ai découvert votre site j enchaîne vos vidéos merci encore
Bonjour. Vous ne pouvez pas ajouter UVO, mais il existe une solution qui a été créée en 2019 car les first edition dans certains pays en Europe n'avaient pas UVO: www.openvehicles.com/
Pour les raisons que j'ai choisi la Niro EV versus la Kona Electric, j'ai fait une vidéo en 2019 qui en parle, mais en résumé c'est l'espace supplémentaire pour les passagers arrière, ainsi que dans le coffre, la finition intérieur, et le look en générale.
czcams.com/video/lxxS5dFykm0/video.html
Is driver seat height similar? Or model Y feels like SUV and Niro feels like its lower and feels like a car?
The Model Y is a higher vehicle and the seat is higher up. The Model Y is a small SUV, whereas the Niro EV is more of a stationwagon.
@@EV-olution but driver seat for Niro EV is somewhere in-between Model 3 and Model Y? Is that reasonable to assume?
That is exactly it. The Model 3 is pretty low to the ground as compared to the Niro EV, and the Model Y is a step up from the Niro EV.
@@EV-olution Thanks. Model 3 has option to adjust seat height upwards although I am not sure how effective is that. There are some third party pads etc that can further bump the driver seat height but I am not sure how effective they are either. I could not find any video on CZcams about that unfortunately.
@@SriSri-fo2je the Niro EV can also adjust the seat height.