RV Solar Panel Install DIY AUTO TILT Mount With 3M VHB Tape NO HOLES! Part 2/2
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- We show you how to make and install a DIY auto tilting solar panel kit on the RV using customized Renogy parts, an air strut, and 3M VHB tape. Parts can be found on hobotech.tv/amazon and plans on hobotech.tv/shop . Part One • RV Solar Panel Install...
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This is PART TWO. To see the first part: czcams.com/video/Ajss5bl0BqE/video.html
VHB & ETERNABOND TAPES: hobos.cc/TBZS
INSTALL VIDS PART 1 (2017): czcams.com/video/qghxSwUgxEc/video.html
INSTALL VIDS PART 2 (2017): czcams.com/video/QWLqGw0pegk/video.html
5000mi Follow Up (2017): czcams.com/video/5DEBb1Mtu0M/video.html
1 Year Follow Up (2018): czcams.com/video/pUU8IAVfwz8/video.html
2 Year Follow Up (2019): czcams.com/video/nShLdvEQyZI/video.html
5 Year (FINAL) Update (2022): czcams.com/video/o2yhVvBcsEU/video.html
Building the strut "auto tilt" bracket Part 1: czcams.com/video/Ajss5bl0BqE/video.html
Building the strut "auto tilt" bracket Part 2: czcams.com/video/9GQiJyYaLxs/video.html
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It is mold on your roof. If you buy camco awning cleaner it works fantastic and just clean with a soft brush and bucket with a little awning cleaner in there about 1/4 of jug.
Best answer. Thanks!
@@HOBOTECH I think vinegar may work. Having lived in WA I've used 30 second cleaner works great on plastic and wood. It did take off stain.
I knew you would come up with a Twist on tilted panels. Because typical designs are inconvenient to deploy and you have to be able to climb on top and most cases. And anybody that is walking on their roof daily is looking for roof issues the gas prop is genius. I am anxious to see how it works when you adjust for fall and winter I presume it is mounting points. Thank you for the material list I will check it out.
It's a type of mold, it happens to dang near any surface that doesn't see soap or shade. Sides of houses, decks, roofs, anything. I use siding wash you can buy anywhere.
I installed 2 -100w Renogy panels with VHB tape on my '02 Dodge Ram 1500 van fiberglass roof more than a year and a half ago with the molded plastic mounts and they are not only rock solid, they look great. I pull up on the panels with both hands and it raises the roof. Check the quarter inch self tapping bolts and they haven't budged. I watched your video first. I installed a new 100ah LifePo4. I'm thinking 200w isn't enough for winter so I'm getting another 100w panel with the tilt mounts for setting on the ground at first and then figure out mounting it in the same fashion as yours. I subscribed to see all of your videos but this is the first one that popped up from you in a long time. Ironically I just happened to be ready to do it this week and these 2 video's helped. Thanks!
Love the method you have shown for panel install...much better than drilling into roof! Thanks for all of the details on how to use the different tapes. 👍
Once again, thank you for all your hard work! As a newbie, I appreciate the education!
Hope all is well with you.
And this is why I like your videos, details for us! Thanks for sharing. Geek to geek.
That install went well and looks good!
Terrific thorough step by step install, it turned out great.
It's mold and it's a pain. It is important to clean it off occasionally as it will continue to grow and get bigger. Not cleaned off occasionally, over time can actually do damage to your roof.
The black dots you see is tree sap. Starts out as a clear mist but drys black in the sun. Love the channel keep it up.
Make a wind deflector in front of panel. 6 inch tall, strip of plexiglas, 4 foot wide. Cut bottom side to contour to roof slope. Use a stainless ,3 foot
Long strip hinge.
2 inch wide. Tape to roof. Seal front gap with silicone caulk.
Sand on, sand off Grasshopper.
Thank you soo much. Going to do this with our new Coachmen RV. I'll upload a video aswell. Thanks Hobotech! You're awesome!
Great job!!! Looks great!!!! Your the best man!!! Great video.
fine job tom well done my solar panels 40k plus on v h b tape
Pretty fantastic!
HT, Good Job! Thanks
Great video! You Da Man!
I’d love to see more video of the end result. Like how do the different angles end up working - or is it just that one angle you show. It looks like a really great solution.
Very interesting. Knew you’d have success. TFS McGiver has nothing on you!! Hi Odin 😻
Heyy not too bad looking at all! Great job! looks great also =)
great job!
Good job!
great commander Data moment..
I saw how you tried to slip that subliminal "clinky" by when you were talking about alcohol! :)
Thanks for sharing
Make hanging ( solor) side shade awnings . Cool Van & charge same time.
Make some Hole mounts for sticking a Big Yard Umbrella in to shade Van from Sun or Wind.
Well done! With filming too - phew. "Most of us shouldn't try this at home." :)
Yeah...I rubbed it for about a minute....good results.
Sweeeet!!! Just what I needed! Thank-You haa haa Forget the Duct Tape! 3M Tape is the New Duct Tape! LOL now i need to get the 2nd Bracket. TFS :O)
👍Dude, GREAT (& hilarious) new intro 😂😬😜😵😭💩😂 🎵🎶🎸 music!
Hi if your worried about aerodynamic still after you get your panels up there a cheap Remy is they use to have those big defectors that you would put on the front of your truck and securing it under the front of the hood.get one of those and put the big defector in front of the bracket that will get the most wind when your going down the road.Then tape it down that should help with your aerodynamics on your can then you could paint the big defector white to match your roof just a thought good video
153 WOOHOO FROM TEXAS, COMMENT 37, GOT A PEEP, HELL YEA. I NEED YOU TO DO SOLAR ON MY SPRINTER. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It Part I, I swear I could hear Heidi "Cussing out the chickens" LOL
I'm sure she was!
Tree sap and little mold on roof I get it from emu trees and low sun light in my case 👍
Glad to see someone else was not against boltless solar panels. Here's how we did our first two panels. We have traveled 1500 miles since install. Will follow-up when we install the other two. czcams.com/video/7I2mIZBF96k/video.html
I like.
Yep it's mold/mildew
Hobotech - nice build. Once you had bonded the VHB tape to one side of the panel was it difficult to lift up the other side and pull off the strips? I would suggest dedicated locknuts or blue Locktite for all those nuts & bolts that you want to keep solid. You couldn't sand down the raw edges on the corners, so it's time to bite the bullet and get some files for your tool kit. Denatured alcohol is considered pure alcohol and is a great solvent, it's only downside it evaporates really fast, particularly in high temperatures. Another thing that is super effective at removing dirt and grease without leaving a residue is automotive spray brake cleaner. You were mentioning aerodynamics affecting your choice for panel placement. It's possible to fashion a custom air dam out of PVC pipe. Thanks for the video.
I didn't show in the video due to time constraints but I took the VHB off the right side of the panel first, laid it down lightly in place, then did the left side as shown. After pressing down the left side I went back the right and applied pressure there. So the answer is, no. Locktite is a good idea but I am just running lock washers on the back panels (what came with the kit) and they haven't come loose. The PVC air dam sounds like an interesting project. I might have to try it.
@@HOBOTECH I completely understand you not showing the whole process, VHB being the ticking time bomb it is. I was wondering if you took the brackets off the panels on the right side, attached them with VHB and bolted the everything together after the fact. That would have been a nervy move. I am really glad it all worked out. You can always use Locktite later if things loosen up. once again thanks for the video.
🤣LoL🧐My kids love this part‼️@ 19:11 👍🏼
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The black dots are a result of air pollution. A cleaner type wax or polish will remove the stuff. Great video!
I love my Ryobi, the circular saw is smaller and lighter. I've never used my battery powered sawzall. I have a Dewalt plug in too which is what I've used. I don't know if they have a destruction blade for the Ryobi? They don't break easy.
It can be gelcoat mould.. It comes on boat also..
Thanks for the video. Still debating whether to drill or tape. My travel trailer has an Alpha-ply (rubber type) roof. What tape would you suggest?
Very nice! hey how do you think it would go using the panel as a wind break while driving? Reckon the gas struts would hold against a head wind?
Always wax your panels with Maguire's plastic headlight lens wax. Protects lens from Sun damage. Dirt & Dust dont stick, bugs bounce off.
@Timothy Mckee blocks only the bad UV Rays ,
@Timothy Mckee Yes It keeps the Clear Coating from getting cloudy,
NICE Job HOBTECH . When fabing like that you run into a lot of unknows .
I have been thinking of puting solar panels on truck topper . Me watching
your video help me to figure out what I want to do . The main thing was not
drilling holes in the roof . Have you have any problems with the 3M VHB 4950
coming off ?
Your stains are diesel stains from the trucks etc i live near a freeway and i get them on my motorhome and cars 👍
Hi Tom, I'm just reviewing your "Solar Panel (adjustable) mount video. You ask about that stuff up on the front of you roof? I got that the other day. Those big concrete delivery trucks leak (throw) that stuff off while they're driving, down the street. The faster they go, the farther behind it spreads. AL Schultz
I was told this one time while doing this one thing that for the purpose of helping some thing stick, like paint or adhesive, the end goal should be to make little "X"s. But I prefer to make little "+" signs :P
Please explain "make little x's". Are you only sanding in an x pattern? Are you cutting the tape in an x pattern? Are you using a knife to make an X pattern groove?
@@MySonsMother Sorry for not being totally clear. I was talking about when sanding the surface you're trying to get something to stick to.
So, you're saying sand in an x pattern?
I typically sand in a + pattern. I did this here but I cut a lot of that out of the videos.
Those spots on your roof - could it possibly be tree debris from parking underneath the same kind of tree at times?
I concur on the black spots. mold from tree droppings. I have seen this in AZ and Texas, Cedar Trees? in VA it can be much worse and I know it is from oak trees.
Excellent video as always. What brand of extension ladder are you using and do you like it?
Yes. See the tools section. hobotech.tv/amazon/
I believe those spots on the roof are lyceum...they grow on my roof too...
It's sitting under trees that could have aphids dropping droppings...or from sap from the tree or bugs your driving through but I think it's the aphids.
The panels come up for the first time: 16:26
A hex nut on top of a wing nut? Use two hex nuts instead. Snug the first hex nut then hold it with a wrench and tighten the second hex nut on top of the first. the second hex is called a jam nut. Maybe you were just short of hex nuts. In that case put the hex nut first and the wing nut over to "jam" it.
I used what I had. Hardware store was a half hour away.
Quick question. How do you do the opposite side of the panel? Is there flex in the panel, etc.
Thanks for another great video!
I am using VHB also for mounting to my trailers aluminum roof. Im confused? I was told that the VHB 5952 tape was a better bond and stronger so that's what I bought. You say the 4950 is better? I got my info from 3M. I hope it wasn't a mistake.
Also I figured panels in parallel would be better for a mobile set up (I'm running 3 100 watt renogy panels)as shadows on even one panel in series will cause a loss of power to all panels. So one would have to park in the open all the time. On a stationary mount such as a home series would be better and you can run smaller wire farther from the panels.
Bill Redding below asked the same thing about why I switched to series so you can read my response there. There are different VHB tapes for different applications. If you are bonding aluminum to aluminum then 5952 might be the right one. I used 4950 because that is what AM Solar has used for decades to do installs on fiberglass. I figure if they were wrong they would be knee deep in lawsuits by now.
HOBOTECH aluminum to aluminum is probably why they told me 5952. And I’ve got my roll of Eternabond on hand to keep it strong and covered. I also made a tethering connection for peace of mind✌️
Lift off Hobotech. ✈🛩🛬
Or use laquer thinner is faster and easier
The black dots are 'mildew fungus'.
those black dots seem like spider pooh to me.... indeed this is kind of etching your top layer sometimes bird pooh goes through more layers of paint :)
They have a cool Chicken Coop there I have something similar leastwise portable. They're called chicken tractors. Get you some fresh unrefrigerated eggs before you leave they will last a month without Refrigeration I understand if you put them in the fridge they have to stay in the fridge this is a space saver plus those are the next best thing to free range eggs
Yes, I've read that as long as the natural coating isn't washed off they'll keep. The eggs we get from grocery stores have been washed, so have to be refrigerated.
@@dianedenham5259 I'm not too sure about that LOL chickens have to be one of the nastiest things are is in the world lot of times there's poo on them so you have to wash them off but I have heard that as well. That is why when you get them at a farmers market they are clean and they are not cold. And so good. A lot of times farm eggs the yolk is orange that is because they love corn and corn is cheap and does not have hormones and vitamins and whatever necessary to make them a daily producer. I'm not afraid of chicken eggs mine were the normal color cuz of the feed
@@weswalker1208 : another thing that I read was that the eggs can be dipped in "water glass" to extend freshness.
You don't need to wash the eggs until you are ready to refrigerate them. Unwashed they last for a month or more at room temperature. Once you wash and refrigerate them they can last about 6 months. This applies only to farm fresh eggs, not store bought.
I get tree sap on my roof. Could be something like that on yours.
Black 'dots" on roof. We have the issue down here near industrial plants in South Texas. Did you wittiness any flaring near plants?
Great job. Would denatured alcohol work as well?
Yes.
Good job considering all you had was hand tools out in a gravel parking lot.
The 'big washers' are called 'fender washers'.
Isopophol has oils in it
If that's a fiberglass roof you need to clean, buff and wax it . If you wax it once a year you won't have a problem.
Do you happen to have a discount code for Renogy solar panels?
am i just wrong here or is it all right to not use any screws or bolts to secure it to the roof?
don't panels need to face in the same direction when tilted?
Where did you bring the cables into your van?
What? No safety wire on your lock nuts?
my biggest question with this mounting process is...if the panel were to get damaged (say from a tree branch or hail)...how are you going to replace them when you can't access the bolts to those brackets and the tape is so strong?
Hacksaw blade and alcohol will take off VHB.
One question. Will the front panel shade the rears as the sun goes down or is it too short for that to happen?
In the late fall through early spring it probably will shade them (assuming I park facing south) but the angle is so steep at that point those rear panels won't be doing anything anyway. In the dead of winter those rear panels are basically useless.
So how is this working 2 years later?
Or what they call final wash
Ah, yes. But how do you tilt it in the OTHER axis? Repark the vehicle?
Did I miss the explanation of why you don't care about having the back of the van point South any more? Because it looks like you could have tilted the 3rd panel the opposite way and still pointed the back of the van south.
Denatured alcohol has the water removed...
How's the panels holding up, any lifting after time has passed?
VHB & ETERNABOND TAPES: hobos.cc/TBZS
INSTALL VIDS PART 1 (2017): czcams.com/video/qghxSwUgxEc/video.html
INSTALL VIDS PART 2 (2017): czcams.com/video/QWLqGw0pegk/video.html
5000mi Follow Up (2017): czcams.com/video/5DEBb1Mtu0M/video.html
1 Year Follow Up (2018): czcams.com/video/pUU8IAVfwz8/video.html
2 Year Follow Up (2019): czcams.com/video/nShLdvEQyZI/video.html
5 Year (FINAL) Update (2022): czcams.com/video/o2yhVvBcsEU/video.html
Building the strut "auto tilt" bracket Part 1: czcams.com/video/Ajss5bl0BqE/video.html
Building the strut "auto tilt" bracket Part 2: czcams.com/video/9GQiJyYaLxs/video.html
If your under trees it's sap spots pecan is real bad
Did I miss the reason you're wiring all your panel in series vs. parallel? I'm guessing because they're 12v panels and so require heavier gauge wire vs. 24v panels? Still, wouldn't you want to have the max amps you could get instead -- which is what I'd be going for, using the largest-wattage (and 24v) panels I expect.
Whatever, I sure do like not having to drill holes into the roof to mount panels...even though I WOULD have to drill a hole for the cable run (if necessary).
-- BR
I'm going to do a video on why as soon as I install my new batteries, but I'll give you the short answer. I field tested these 3 panels in parallel vs series and I got significantly more watts in series. Reasoning is that the compact panel isn't exactly the same spec as the rear panels so that probably throws the MPPT off in parallel. Second, is that MPPT controllers prefer higher voltage and when you're charging up to 15.5v off a max of 19v panels the controller has less to work with. So series is better. Now, if I had 4 panels I'd run series-parallel for the best bang but with an odd number I can only go one or the other. BTW you won't find 24v panels in 100w. Renogy doesn't make them.
@@HOBOTECH Thanks for the info. I know (general rule of thumb, if you will) panels up to around 100W are almost always (if not always!) 12v, and those a bit over and upwards are 24v (or maybe more, 48 for example), but I wire my panels in parallel -- but I don't have them ALL wired together (for several reasons).
Specifically, I have 2 Renogy 100W "compact" 12v panels, 2 Grape Solar 180W 24v panels, and one Kyocera 65W 12v panel...but as mentioned, I don't use them all at the same time! I have 2 "portable emergency/backup power-stations" -- the small station (with Samlex 300W sine-wave inverter) uses the 2 100W 12v panels (in parallel) and the large station (Samlex 600W sine-wave inverter) uses the 2 180W 24v panels (also in parallel). The 65W 12v panel is used by itself if a lot of amps isn't needed (no need to recharge quickly), and since it puts out less power (~3.78A), I can run a smaller gauge wire -- and a longer length of it -- from it to my controller (14AWG), so the panel can be out in the sun while the power-staton(s) is in the shade.
Both stations have Renogy 30A "Rover" MPPT controllers.
Happy Solaring,
-- BR
If the bleach cleans it, then def. mold.
It my be tree sap ??
See thats why U get paid the big bucks! No drillin genius ☮️❤️🤗and i think thats bird shit lol takes the paint clear coat off
Why did you put the tape over the brackets..?
To weather proof them.
@@HOBOTECH Hey Thanks for the response: I'm not following.. you said you used VHB tape as I did quite sometime ago, but if there are no holes there is nothing to waterproof. what am I missing something..?
The Eternabond is there for two purposes. 1) To weatherproof the VHB tape itself so it lasts longer. Eventually UV and moisture would make failure possible. With the Eternabond that is much less likely. 2) As a backup in case the VHB would fail. While Eternabond itself won't hold the panel to the roof it would hold one failed corner down until the issue was discovered.
@@HOBOTECH okay so more of a safe them sorry.. I can see that.. very good point.. enjoy your videos..
Did you upgrade your batteries?
Not yet. Supposed to get the batteries next week.
the stuff on the roof probably came from the trees.
I don't see your auto tilt product on your Amazon Solar install link
Its at the Shop page, not Amazon
It's mold.
those dots are fly shit :)
Auto?
It's sapp from trees
Nope mold
tree sap.
house flies makes those marks, its their poop.