Ryanair job offer to new pilots - Costing 30.000 EUR
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- čas přidán 12. 01. 2021
- In this video we are talking about the Ryanair job opportunity offered through Airline Flight Academy (AFA). Would, should or could you do it?
INVESTMENT
Type Rating fee: €30,000 upfront
Prior to the assessment: Cut-e online assessment test €55 (non-refundable)
Assessment fee: €350 (non-refundable)
Accommodation
Travel expenses
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Hey guys, Lovely channel. Do you know maybe what is the current situation in RYN about the recruitment process and the costs? still the same??
How are the things now after one year?
Great content 👍, very helpful video specially for someone fresh out of flyschool. Not gonna lie, me and my classmates are more than desperate to look for a job in the aviation industry, specially after seeing such high demands for pilots in the last couple of years,where the airline companies even came looking for us while we were still in training. Unfortunately,covid19 changed all of that. And now, the desperation is starting to weigh on us, fear of doing nothing aviation-related will only distance us from our goal of becoming first officers.... To be honest, this uncertainty is taking a mental toll on us and sometimes doing nothing is the hardest thing to do. Having said that, the struggle is between jumping on the first opportunity possible (even if it's not the greatest deal) or wait for better times (but afraid of losing proficiency and distancing more from the aviation industry).
Thank you for the message. We totally agree with you that it is hard times at the moment especially if you are all alone. We can also understand how the desperation can kick in. Most would benefit from being in a small study group where you can share tips, train and stay sharp but also to keep motivation up. We do run a few smaller pilot support groups where we meet once per month in online workshops. Let us know if you would like to know more about the setup and if you think this could work for you.
Hi, Ryanair stated in July that they are employing 2000 new pilots in the next three years. Also, In the training schedule it does say that „line training at one of our bases“ is included. That does sound like they want to keep the people who did their type rating course. :-)
I've never heard of anyone that didn't get a permanent contract after the line check. Anyone. Me included 😅
Can you say something about the assesment? Did you go to full ab initio or modular? Any Problem with 30yrs+? Greetz@@Akis__
Veey helpful!!
As a pilot this is absolutely ridiculous. You should NOT pay a single penny for the airline. Opposite they need to pay for your time. 737 TR is 12-15k dollars and not 30k as they want. Kids do not pay 2 fly
I am interviewing for a job that would require me to fly a lot. I am extremely nervous around airplanes and even more so now that there is ongoing conflict in in Russia. I have a constant fear that something like an EMP would render the plane inoperable mid flight.
I don't want to wallow in fear and would like to consult your experts. If I were an airliner and Russia or China sent an EMP to the US, what should I expect to happen on my flight. Thank you for your response and I wish you many safe flights.
God Bless
-Tony-
Could you re-do this video with your current view as things have really changed after Covid.
Really good idea! The Ryanair offer has changed and usually it is a good benchmark how the aviation industry is doing in Europe. We will definitely take this on our list. :)
The people “pilots” that are ok with this have no idea what they are talking about. Either they are completely naive to this industry and what is appropriate or they are just a person of very poor character.
What you are saying as an employee, operating a machine that takes tremendous skill to operate and holds people’s lives in your hands, is that I’m willing to do it for free because I don’t respect myself nor my fellow aviator.
Pilots going this route are not due any type of respect. The airline themselves are worse and just as culpable by offering something so insulting and ludicrous. These costs are the costs of doing business. It is not incumbent on the employee to bare the cost.
Could you imagine going to work for anything other position anywhere and be expected to pay to go to work. That’s what you are doing. You are paying your employer to go to work!! You are lining their pockets with gold and they are having a good laugh at your expense. LITERALLY.
Thank you for sharing your view. Should you pay for a rating or not? - could be a subject worth taking up and we are sure many are in doubt what to do.
@@AskAPilot I have 30 years in aviation. I fly professionally for work. I have 6 type ratings and have never paid for any of them.
@@PietenpolNX899TD That's how it should be. Are you based in Europe or elsewhere?
@@brendawg8002 USA
@@PietenpolNX899TD Right.. I'm glad the notion of paying for type ratings hasn't taken off so much over there. Seemingly a few cargo carriers in Europe still include a type rating as part of the contract. Incurring a mountain of debt to undertake training and then having to shell out ~€30k on top just to get a job is a real kick in the teeth
Hi there, thanks for the information. Do you think it's possible that if there isn't a huge uptake on the offer because people can't afford the €30K, things will return to the previous bond scheme?
Hi, that's a great question! At the moment there's is quite a bit of buzz around the €30K typerating and we know quite a few graduating pilots that are very interested in taking this deal. Based on this, we would say that Ryanair has played their game well. Graduating pilots have the hunger to go forward and basically will do anything for a job opportunity at this current climate. As long as Ryanair has people walking in and willing to pay the 30K without job quarantine, we don't think they're going to change the setup anytime soon.
There not the only airline asking for you to fund the initial type rating 🙄
Totally unrelated. Can you become pilot in the airforce or But airline pilot if you have Anterior pelvic tilt
Hi Mark. Our guess is that it will largely depend to what degree you are troubled and if you can pass the other requirements involved with getting a pilot medical. To our knowledge you can correct an anterior tilt by using exercise, stretches and massage but we would advice you to consult health professionals to consider what is possible and best for your situation.
Thing is that last year it was 10000€ now it’s 30000€ but is there a job guarantee ? Is there salary at the first day of base training like before ?
Before, with the 10000€ deal you were bonded for 3-5 years. Granted with the new scheme you’re not but it makes you more expendable since Ryan air won’t need you to pay back the type.
Hi Paul. We remember that deal, there was also, if you go back even further a time where RYR would pay a sign up bonus for direct entry captains. Good point that if the airline has money invested in you, it serves as an employment "protection".
Thank you for this Video!
It's a tricky situation currently. I have the money for this deal, however I'm going to wait for maybe half a year, since it won't be the last course they start. I don't want to spend further money and be put on hold until flying starts up again. Nobody knows how the current situation will develop and in wat way travel will be possible again. Luckily I found a desk job aviation related which will give me the opportunity to build up some savings towards hours and a type rating.
I think either way is taking a risk, for one it's a financial risk and for the other the risk of missing out a opportunity. But I'm confident, that this will not be the last opportunity.
Thank you for your comment. We agree that it is tricky. Recruitment is according to what we have seen for Summer 2022. Hard to say how and when our industry will recover. It sounds like a good plan to wait a few months at the moment. However sometimes doing nothing is the hardest thing :-)
@@AskAPilot It's the second crisis which hindering me to fulfill my dream. Financial Crisis back in 2010 was the first, did what everyone told me to, go study. Decided to do flight training because of my passion for it, finished in oct. '20 and now we have corona. Bad luck I guess.
@@mcbutton55 We are sorry to hear that you have been hit twice by factors outside your control. Feel free to get in touch if you want some personal advice or if you just feel like having someone to speak to that understands. We also offer support through small Pilot groups. We meet once per month online in a workshop. This month we looked at the type of mental training that top athletes learn. In a way, the situation (for pilots) is a bit like a top athlete having a few years to the next Olympics. It is about focussing on the things you can control and have some short term goals. There is no pressure to join us, but if you want to hear more, feel free to drop us an email on contact@askapilot.net.
Guys please. I am also doing the pilotschool dont take this kind of offer where you pay your own typerating without any contract. I mean this is insane and is destroying the market for us pilots.
I appreciate your work and videos but really i watched all 10 minutes duration, and still cant figure out if Ryanair guarantees a contract if we get the rating with them or not, ?!
Hi Adman. It is our belief that there will be no job guarantee as things stand. The way we read it, you are given a possibility to work for RYR after completion of the type rating. The possibility is uncertain so yes nothing will be 100%. Even with a job offer in the end there will usually always be hurdles like passing the type rating then line training and final line check.
Sorry Adham- for the misspelling of your name.
More videos please
Hello guys!! You are doing an amazing job. Thank you for providing us all information i was searching for this type of channel..i am also from europe from italy but want to get in pilot cadet program in any other country of europe. I am 5 feet 1 inch tall can i be an airline pilot? Can you tell me if going through cadet pilot programs is useful? And does they provide job guarantee?
Hi Simran. Thank you for your kind words about our videos. At the moment we think it will be hard to find any cadet schemes that are open. When (if) they open schemes up, interest is likely to be high and the recruitment hard. The best thing we think you can do at the moment is to practice your skills and focus on developing. Cadet schemes tend to come with a job outlook at the end but historically cadet schemes have been closed if times suddenly turn bad, resulting in no job. In regards to your height. Some airlines like SAS have a minimum height of 157 cm and maximum height of 200 cm. Other airlines do not specify any heights. Going through flight training you need to be able to reach the controls and be able to look out. It may sound silly but on some training airplanes it is not unheard of that you fly with a pillow and that is allowed. All in all your height may restrict you in some aspects but we don’t want you to stop dreaming. Feel free to get in touch if you want to discuss options.
Your channel is really helpful. Im 18 years old and I have always had the intention to go straight, after college, to do my ATPL. Im now struggling to decide whether it is the right time to begin. Would you ever recommend getting a degree from a good UK uni, and would this ever help with progressing your career in aviation? Thanks :))))
Man, I'm in the same position as you. I decided to do a PPL in Spain (Jerez) next to FTE while I wait for the right time to apply for ATPL, to see if flight training is for me, and it's amazing.
IMO, this is the best time. By the time you’re done, there will be a high demand. Keep in mind, the amount of passengers flown keeps doubling every 15 years. Don’t let fear stop your dreams. Get into your ATPLs and fucking grind it. I’m halfway through mine, sure it’s expensive as hell, but don’t I love the thought of making money from something I love?
What's type rating?
Its a certification to allow you to fly a specific aircraft. For instance, to fly a B737, you need a type rating for that, a specific course to fly it.
If you have a B737 type rating, you can't fly an A320, then you need another type rating course before you can operate and apply for jobs with an A320.
@@kenugget9593 thanks I think I get it now
@@ai_text_stories No worries 😊
And so the race to the bottom continues....
Top tip :
If you get as far as an interview, the best answer to the question "Why do you want to be a pilot?" is "because I want to fly a plane".
If you want it bad enough it won't matter the cost
Well if you cant get the money you cant get the job thats life
One year after joining Ryanair as a cadet I can definitely tell you that it was the best decision in my life. You can easily collect the 30k you have spent for the type rating within a year after your line training. Also you have very good possibilities to become a captain in 4 years. Yes it's a shame that we should pay for our type rating but that's the case almost everywhere these days. The only major drawback to me is that you don't know where you will be based after your initial line check.
Bs... 80% these days offer bond or a partial bond... Fck pay 2 fly schemes
@@JonasNorvidas having a bond is great if you do not have the money upfront but is less good when you want to leave earlier to another airline once you reach the requirements. I also paid 30k for ryr but as said above you can collect that money on the side in 1 year and a half easily no matter the contract/base. It is not a p2f scheme as you are getting paid during line training (roughly 2300e with flight hours) that salary goes to 2500/3000+ after line training then up again to 3500-4500 after 500h (6 months) this is an average across the network. I recommand anyone getting into training to take into account a type rating cost just in case the person isn't lucky enough to get a free one. But again, 1yr, 1yr and a half to pay back 30k isn't a bad Investment at all.