These type of welders are good for the very beginners and that's a great thing because it will get people welding earlier in life and not wasting time thinking about it. We need a lot more welders in the world. Which can also lead to other trades and skills.
I had a 90amp harbor freight flux it was garbage I realized that after flux core mig welding with a millermatic 212. I recently got a cheap 220 dollar with 2 year warranty multi process welder and super surprised and happy how well it works. It will do tig but the torch is sold separate I've only done stick and mig mostly mig tho but it's nice to have all option in one machine so I can practice what I don't know and use what I do know efficiently
Can’t find a single place that is hiring for an apprentice I tried Mississippi, Virginia and in my state they don’t have an apprenticeship program . Called ingles shipyard in MS for 2 months and they don’t answer their phone . Virginia wanted my transcripts and they haven’t got back to me so I don’t see how America is in need of welders when allot of these places don’t get back to you
@Antonio Lopez wtf do you mean "virginia hasn't gotten back to me?" Businesses in America are privately owned.... the state they're in has very little to do with the company.. you didn't look hard, I took a 3 weekend course right when I got out of jail and got hired making 48k/yr starting right after I got my d1.1 plate cert
Been welding for over 30 years. Although I often buy Miller, Lincoln, and even ESAB, I have had all of those three suffer failures from time to time. I also have an AHP tig welder and it gets used just as often as the rest. It's the only one that hasn't failed yet. It was $700. The rest were $2500 - $5500...
I use to believe in yellow and blue, until I worked in a shop of mostly blue and like you said they were down and out more than my cousins junker. Then the labor or warranty tech wanted an arm and a leg. Once I saw the prime weld reviews I bought one. Love it for my garage. To this day (3 years later) 2 of the 5 machines at my shop are still out of commission or broken for repair 😂
Besides the big brand name, I'll bet a lot of the components inside are made in China anyways. In the end you are paying for the name brand and these other companies most likely have less overhead and they can cut the cost to the consumers. Maybe we are OVERYPAYING for the name brands and what we consider cheap is normal price?
I have a $200 tig welder too, I picked it up to learn on and to try and fix my vintage aluminum mountain bike frame and it wasn't bad compared to the high dollar rig we have at work. I learned on my own at home and came to work one day and welded something up for my boss he said I had no idea you knew how to tig weld?? I said yea I think I can handle it, knowing that I'd been practicing for months. Also fixed my mtn bike frame ✊🏽💪🏽🤷🏽
People are always hopping right on duty cycle but I agree with you, if you're not doing production welding it's nearly impossible to max it out. I've seen youtubers try and it's not easy unless you crank the amps all the way up. Most of the time you *need to* stop and let your work cool or set up your next weld long before the welder starts overheating. Even a pro fabricator on a site spends ten times as long prepping as they do with the trigger on. And if duty cycle is the only issue... you gotta think about whether you'd rather just use two $200 welders instead of one $2000 one.
For carrying in the field these units rock, way lighter than the old transformer types and plenty of power for most stuff on 110v, huge difference when you are literally carrying it all day. It will do about the same output as my older ones but draws less current allowing a smaller gauge cord or use a much longer with less loss, very helpful.
You should also look at a Primeweld Tig225x I've had one for 4 years now and I absolutely love it. It's an AC/DC machine, comes with a CK torch, and the customer service has been great. I had one of the earlier models with an older style peddle when it went out they sent me the new model free, Since then I haven't had any issues from it. It was about $700 but it was the only machine on the market that gave you so much stuff for the cost. Then I also had one of their plasma cutters and it started acting up I opened it up to see if anything was burnt out and they said not to worry about it and they over nighted me a new one and kept the one one for spare parts and the second one hasn't given me issues on even the hottest of days.
I bought one of these a while back and was surprised how well it worked too. It seemed to weld just as well as the old Lincoln Electric welders at my school
Hi, does your Vevor welder is still working? I wish I have money to buy a Lincoln, but I don't and I need one, would you recommend the Vevor? Thank you
@@supercalcium I didn't use it very long because it was DC only and I needed something that could weld aluminum. So I can't say much about their longevity.
I bought a 135 amp stick welder 2 years ago for about $125CAD, and if you plug it into a 220v socket (does 110 too, just not as well) it WILL push out 135 amps. I couldn't get it to overheat and I was running it constantly for at least half an hour with no breaks except to change rods. When I finished, the test piece was warped MANY degrees but the little welder stayed ice cold. Rule #1 of using cheap welders is always change out the ground clamp and torch for a good one as soon as you're able--a good, beefy ground makes all the difference in the world compared to the lame stamped metal stuff you get with these things.
I"m always skeptical when a vendor sends you a product to "Test" I remember a Motor Trend Radar detector test where one company sent in a "cheap" detecter that outperformed the other more expensive models. They opened it up and it was was more advanced than the "Off the Shelf" model the bought and opened up. It would be interesting to order one anonymously and run the same test.....
See now that's an interesting consideration! We'd love to do a blind test comparison on some products like this in the future, so thank you for this idea! Would also be interesting to gather stories from anyone who's purchased these products on their own to see if their experience differentiates from ours. - Walker
@@LiftArcStudios bought a plasma cutter from Vevor , (my last one cost over a thousand pounds and is on its third breakdown, repair will be around two hundred on a machine now worth about two fifty), the Vevor is a fraction of the size and doesn't need hard wiring making it very portable, so far its cut everything I have pushed at it, the only downside is a shorter duty cycle when pushed close to its limit but its a smaller machine to start with, maybe not a machine for a fabrication shop but ideal for keen diy builder and very price attractive.
I have also recently purchased a bead roller from the same people, a little limited on the thickness it can handle, just means I will have to buy thinner sheet in future, but everything is there to do a job, this is not a criticism of the machine but if you buy a manual machine you really need someone to turn the handle as you work it as it is so much easyer and more accurate, I am in the process of gathering the bits to motorize mine with a small 12v winch motor and chain , if you go this route then KEEP IT SLOW, and use a foot pedal to operate it, 12v DC is easy to switch forwards and backwards using two push switches, I have made a number of panels with mine in both thin steel and aluminum and even though I am at the start of the learning curve it has made a huge difference already, if you are a keen DIY fabricator can you afford not to have one?.
It's crazy how much technology has advanced in the last 10 years. I purchased a multi-process welder off of Amazon for $400 and it outperforms the Miller that I paid $1,300 for. Granted the Miller is about 8 years old now, but it is still insane that a Chinese "junk" welder preforms like that. Not to mention the fact that the Miller it is not a 4 in 1 machine. The Chinese multi-process welder will do stick, MIG, Flux core, and lift TIG with high frequency start. I mainly use it for stick and TIG, but it is a damn good MIG welder as well. It will burn everything from 1/16 7018 all the way up to 5/32 hard facing rod. I tested it out with some 1/2 inch plate as well and It is hands down good enough for industrial work.
The crazy thing is that at $200, you really have very little to lose. If you spend $200 on this, buy a tank of argon, start investing in other accessories, then when you want to step up to an AC/DC welder, the next logical step is something like Primeweld for $800-900 which has all the capability you could need if you aren't in a factory production environment. So sure, you're out $200, but then you also have a backup or portable machine, and your gas plus other accessories all carry over.
So glad this video was released! All of my practice has been on mild steel cause it’s easily available and it’s been tricky trying to put the basics from aluminum over to mild steel on my own. Definitely didn’t expect 3mm instead of 6mm like I’ve been doing. Thank a ton for this!!
PRIME WELD 225x was $620 prior to Covid and it can weld circles around any Everlast machine , the Eastwood for sure, and just about every single machine I’ve ever used except my precision 375 but I still like the Prime weld is better.
I have the primeweld 225x and love it too! Matter of fact, I just welded a centerstand for my motorcycle this weekend and worked like a champ. Their 50 amp plasma cutter works really well too! Using the primeweld, I made heavy duty aluminum racks to go on the top of my trucks camper shell and it did really well welding aluminum with tig.
U noticed both torches probably came from the same factory... most of the internals on the welders probably did as well. That was proven with the vulcan pro tig 200 compared to Miller I believe.
Ive used a few things from vevor. I cant complain. I have their 5 gallon 3 pot still. Works amazing for the price. An anvil. Is perfectly acceptable for cast. And dad has a tool of theirs. Im thinking about maybe getting their mini mill.
I’ve been really thinking about getting one of these. I can mig weld good enough for everyone to say my welds look horrible so i think i’m ready to learn how to tig weld.
Hi! Thanks for the informative video! For the last 4 years I’ve been working on developing a testing tool for the welding machines. I’ve learned a lot about how they work and how different manufacturers understand the theory of an arc welding. You absolutely can create a nice welder for $200 but the difference is, would you be able to make it perform identically in any condition, temperature range, voltage drop in your outlet etc. in other words buying a well-known brand you buy confidence. You come to the shop you flip the switch and you get the same results no matter what. But on the other end it’s not that bad to buy a cheap welder because they weld good enough for hobbyists
I worked for 33 years in an industrial setting, loved to tig weld! A friend of mine has a home setting tig rig. Other than the lack of a peddle, it's just as good for sheet metal fabing!facing!! You just have to have argon and get used to adjusting the head due to the lack of the foot peddle!
Retired yet shopping. As a kid on the farm with a 50's crank top Lincoln stick, I welded the broken implements. My step dad & grandfather could drink "Hamm's" beer, but couldn't weld. I most, we start with a torch then in 84 bought an Italian DECA 150Amp MIG. Works great 37 years later and has a transformer bigger than most Honda engines. Thanks for the funny review making it clear that is works but can't reverse polarity to do aluminum. Sad! Just rebuilding a decent 67-C10 because it's my childhood (Age 13-drivers license; school / farm w/no photo) sheet metal as TIG is softer for hammer & dolly. Thanks!
Surprised too. Expected there to be a wonky, varying tig arc, cheaply assembled torch and maybe a collet that doesn't really grip the tungsten or deforms and you can't get it out. Barbed fitting is OK if you've got a dedicated regulator (why would you not?). A full project's worth of welding is the next test, and maybe running it at the high end of it's capability to see how stable and hot the arc is and remains. If all's good, then a penny saved is a penny earned. At least if it fell off of the tailgate and stopped working, you could in good conscience just throw it away.
I have had a Lotus tig for about 5years now and it never has failed me. Since welders are all electronics now they're cheaper to make because electronics are so cheap. Great for beginners and hobbyists.
We figure the best welding machine is actually the one that works best for you! This is especially true when starting out, no one knows if this is there thing when they first pick up a torch, it seems almost crazy to spend $2000 on anything starting out.
I'm a retired mechanic not a welder and when looking for a cheap welder for the garage I found these Vevor welders, watched some video's on people using these machines. There are a lot of u-tubers testing these machines, Vevor are giving them out to anyone who will make a demo video. Out of the maybe 12 or so video's of various Vevor welding machines I've not seen one bad review.I bought a 270 model multi function {Mig/Tig and Arc} with 4 dial adjustments. I've tried the solid core and arc functions and it seems to weld as well as if not better than the machines in any shop I worked. So ya I agree with you a cheap machine that works this well weird right? So I'm thinking maybe I could use a plasma cutter.....
"maybe I could use a plasma cutter" made ME laugh! I bought a plasma from Aliexpress 5 yrs ago. Out of the box had to re-solder 5 connections where 1 board joined the main board. Since then, been flawless and best $400 CAN I've spent.
I like your funny relaxed approach, good for a huge smile on my face, keep up the good works! Was almost pulling the plunge on a €1700 ac/dc Jasic TIG welder for making my own battery rack (need to place 80 EVE Lithium cells of each 5-6 kgs so this rack needs to be strong and stable out of RVS 304 stainless steel. Since I need to figure out if I m talented enough for a steep priced machie, this kind of starter machines - specially with pulse and HF start on it - would be a good start. If I like welding, the better machine will come later 😁
Thanks buddy! That's the way to do it for sure. A lot of people get hung up on gear and it becomes an obstacle for them to overcome even before they give it a shot. Also, speaking from experience, getting good on something cheap or crappy makes getting something nice REALLY nice and feels a million times easier once you start using it.
I'd definitely be interested in checking this out for hobbyist stuff. Would you consider a welding for dummies video? Show what gas to use, what basic settings, some logic as to why, where to ground and why, maybe test out a cheap vivor mask even? Or if there is a video out there with this info that you like would you mind posting the link? You guys rock!
Welding for dummies would be a really fun video! Anything that gets more people interested in the fabrication world! I'll write this suggestion on the whiteboard and make sure Tay and I iron out some details for something like that :) Thanks! - Walker
I got a wide view auto darkening mask on Amazon for 40 bucks with full adjustability the closest equivalent mask at harbor freight is 80 and it's missing all the adjustments and features the mask it is based on is around 200 bucks. I have no complaints yet. It's a bit thin but it works great. For someone not doing it every day the amazon stuff works I got a multi-process mig tig stick machine with 2-year warranty for 220 delivered to my door and the thing is surprisingly great. Just this weekend I Was even welding a thin rusted out exhaust pipe back the the muffler and even was able to weld up some blow out in the body of the rusted out muffler itself at first it burned rite thru but after some adjusting, it worked just fine.
Please do weekly Welding Demo videos with this Vevor Tig Welder to establish it's Long Term Reliability. otherwise I'm going to assume it broke right after the video ended. Thanks, Great Video.
Think of it this way: Shop type welders are shop type welders.... portable field welders doesn't have the whiz bang of shop type but, if you got to go where the shop won't fit, you'll need the nano-pocket size fixamajig device.
im glad that the eastwood is your first one cause the one i got for my first rig was the AHP alphatig 200x and it was around the same price. about 760 dollars and it has a digital read out and has AC as well
Again you proved MY point! It's NEVER the paint, brush or canvas! It's always the Maestro!! You could weld titanium with a shredded coke can and bic lighter!! Your skills are Gawd Level!!!
I bought a cheap AC/DC welder some 10 years ago. It worked perfectly well right from the start and welded really well regular steel, stainless, aluminum. I kept it in a dirty garage where there was metel dust flying everywhere, a few times I left it overnight outside, in the rain. My garage wasn't heated so it experienced humidity and temperature variations between hot summer and snowy winter. Works fine till this day. I bought another one some months ago. I only modified the things which are usually crappy, so I built my custom torch which is smaller, has a separate hose for gas and a separate wire (flexible silicone) for the current. I also repositioned the button all the way to the front so that I press it with my index finger. I even welded really thick stuff with those welders. The bad news for you is that the Eastwood TIG comes from the same factory as generic ones. It's just being rebranded. If you want to buy a lager numbers of machines the factory creates branding for you. So for example you order 100 pieces and the front plate and sides have 'Ugly Joe Company' or whatever you want. Like Eastwood.
Not a welder, but thinking about getting one as a hobby. I'm a guitar player. When I started out with a 60$ guitar, and I thought the guitar was limiting how good it sounded. But one day an expert played it at my home, and I realized that the guitar (the tool) wasn't as big of bottleneck as I thought. Sure, the top of the line gear I now have sounds and plays a lot better, but the biggest factor is the player, not the gear. So, I'm not surprised that it performed well.
Ha, well my $60 guitar is still my favorite and an artist works with what he or she has available to produce their vision of mind. That being said, I’m more easily frustrated with cheap industrial tools that fail to perform and could dangerous to operate than I am of cheap music gear. China is working very hard to put the American middleman out of business and why wouldn’t they?
Great video.. I do custom metal fab for a living,.use a big old Lincoln square wave tig, but looking for something at home for when I don't wanna do stuff at the shop
Vevor really are knocking it out of the park (baseball reference) with so many of their products - I recently got their Mag drill, it's equally impressive with less than 0.0005" (I measure in metric - it's less than 0.01mm) runout in the spindle Good review, thank you
i just bought a yeswelder tig 205ds off marketplace for $80 and it works great. it came with a tig torch that has a flex head, and the gas connection was a regular screw on.
I love how in 2023 people still don’t realize how basic tig welding is. It’s literally complicated stick welding. Which is why Chinese machines can produce the same welds. What you pay for is the color, warranty, interface and amp range. In some cases arc quality/features like pulse, AC and other creature comforts. But either way all of these welders cost no more than $300 a unit to produce. That $3,000 price tag again is due to the color, named sticker and warranty.
I haven't got a TIG welder of any kind but I've got a bunch of other Vevor products . I've not been disappointed with anything I've bought from them. They make great stuff for a home hobbyist.
Don't know if you guys have tried them before but wen is another good cheap brand and I can tell you there drill presses hold up in a shop used all day
We used a TELWYN years ago, because it was the same size as that one.. 150 pipe butt welds,316, roots..hot passes and capped off...all x ray...no dips...but, back in the 90s...$2500...amazing now.
I weld stainless process piping for a living . Young kid showed up to the job with the same exact welder .... my my miller maxstar 200 was at the other enc of the plant so i gave his lil machine a go , I almost cried , it welded as good as my miller ..... now will it last 10 years with daily use , probably not , but I was impressed how well it welded sch 40 stainless pipe.(edit) the twist connect are miller type connections
So, the reality is these welders are really just fancy power supplies. Making an efficient power supply is extremely common now days, so this isn't really a leap. The reason why they don't have the functions like AC, or slopes, that requires fancier control circuitry. However, for just current control, or voltage up and down, it's a piece of cake. You're spot on with the consumables. However, they aren't "abnormal", they are using standard connectors in the metric/ISO world, which are a bit harder to get over here in North America.
@@LiftArcStudios You're absolutely correct. It was a commonplace way of fixing things in the field for offroaders to just keep some welding cables, a few jumper cables and a couple welding rods. Given that most welding is done around 20-something volts, you really only need two batteries in series. But, for the high amps you need a couple in parallel. This would make an amazing video, BTW.... *hint* *hint* *hint* *hint*
Thank you for going to the trouble to produce this fine video. It was fun AND instructive. I must say however that, in the end, it was a waste of 41.07 minutes for me, and all of us north of the USA border as Vevor chooses not to market this item in Canada or allow Canadian viewers on to their USA website. I have bought from Vevor in the past and so was predisposed toward this product , but now I know to check before watching. For the same reason I don't bother with watching videos of Harbor Freight etc, but I mistakenly thought Vevor was cross border. Maybe in the future you might inquire on the availability of their items and post a 'heads up' at the start?
I am not a welder - never done it - but I really enjoyed your video. It was cool to hear your tone of voice change as you discovered this thing ain't too bad. Only complaint is hearing you don't intend to do long-sleeved shirts in your merch right now. I have WAAAAAY too many short-sleeved T-shirts already. So .......
It’s all about good stable power supplies and electronics. You can buy a cheap conversion kit to turn your stick welder into DC Tig machine. I use an InverArc TLP-200 that has pulse capability for stick. It makes a great DC tig welder as well. So it’s no surprise to me that Vevor can turn out a descent DC Tig welder for that price. It would be good to see how long the HF start lasts.
I've used different vevor products before, like core drills and plasma cutter. For what they are, i have been very happy and functioned well and still functioning for over two 2yrs. Can't complain. Is it high-end no, but will it get the job done in most cases, yes
You can heat it up in the middle with the heat gun and pull on it in the hose will get smaller and then you put it on that little bar fitting. I do it all the time I know it works.
The audio cutting out is interesting and might give you an indication as to why the cost is lower - in many/most other countries that produce electronics they have to be sent off to regulating bodies which test that they do not interfere with radio equipment (Like CE mark in Europe). Although I am no expert in Chinese electronics, I strongly suspect they go through no such testing. (this same point extends to safety regulations and testing). It would be very interesting to see the breakdown of the costs that go into a 'western' welder. I am sure the electronic themselves would be far more expensive, but I bet there i significant cost in the regulatory hurdles and of course the labour of those people who manufacture it.
The supporting foot pedal must be an essential feature that is missed in the cheaper machine. I have one; the front micro switch came loose soon after a couple of times of use. The gas hose fitting in the back is also barbed, which I could never stop the leak from due to weird access to add. So, I guess horses for courses - nothing comes cheap without a good reason.
Clearly you aren't paid to endorse the Vevor product line. Your doubts going in only validate the value in scope of what they provide. Entry level product price with a standard level production. No too shabby.
I've been seeing that that brand pop up in a few different markets. I bought a diesel heater for my car. Not sure how well it works compared to the legit ones. I have it physically installed, but have to finish wiring it up. I have a feeling I'm going to have to buy a smaller one though because I got an 8kw one for a 4 door sedan. We use 2 kW ESPAR ones in the trucks at work, but they are insulated better. Have to see how much it cycles on and off when I get it running.
For the average American that only uses their machine for hobbies it is hard to pay the high dollar for American made. All will agree that we would buy American if we could but. Thank you for the review.
At that price, most homeowners should get one of these or the Vevor mig with internal spool just to learn with and eventually keep their Ford on the road or repair your patio set instead of getting a new one every 3 years.
There's a saying, that's true in many industries "Its not the arrow, its the Indian". Even the most rudimentary tools in the hands of a master or someone with reasonable skill can do an impressive job. And in the hands of an amateur or a poser, even the best tools can produce a cluster f. But, having basically good tools at a price point like this helps more people acquire the fundamental skills WELL the first time, and then when they achieved proficiency, be able to take advantage of some of the more advanced features of the pricier gear. Love the channel, the no nonsense attitude, and although you keep deriding your skill as a welder, you get it done, and the result is good, which makes the difference, seems to be your passion. Wish you continued success, I'll be watching.
I've wondered how easy would be to hack in the balance AC (DCEN DCEP offset or ratio) functionality? Seems like whatever controls the H-bridge inverter is all that needs to be tapped into. Ideally someone hacking out (reverse engineering) the MCU that controls the H-bridge functions in relation to the input settings so the additional function is added with maybe another button with LED indicator with marking with the rotary encoder for setting range options with or without push button I guess... maybe need the push button to set the value.
It may be DC only and no stainless or aluminum BUT... There are hobbyists out there that want to weld light gage sheet metal for car projects, art projects, etc. and don't necessarily weld very often nor do they need a gas tig weldingsetup or big arc welder... And I'm ok with that. I've also had some good luck (though very limited exposure) to this company and am happy with the cust. service, shipping and the product. Thanks for the video.
I need to make a few TIG welds for a small project. I can't justify spending more than a few bucks on the equipment for such a small project so I'm glad I found this video and this machine. If it works out and I do more projects like this, I'll look to you guys for a recommendation on a higher-end machine. Thanks.
Because anytime you buy welding machine you’re always buying the name. I have had expensive welders and cheap ones and truthfully the cheaper ones seen it a lot better than the high and expensive ones. It’s quite mind blowing actually..
I’m a beginner and wanted to learn tig, I considered the DC only but I wanted to learn aluminum tig so I bought the Vevor 250A, it does everything it says, my son is an expert welder, works for Potelco, he came over to check it out and he was impressed considering he uses a $10K welder in his shop, time with my son, “PRICELESS “
Glad I found this. Been looking for something to fart around with in tig so I can learn it but can't see myself buying the miller I really want unless I turn it into a side business.
I have a question, I bought a Yeswelder MIG 250A Pro multi-process welder, which does MIG, TIG and Stick with a 60% duty cycle, and it welds aluminum using the MIG gun that you have to switch to the graphite liner to weld aluminum, so I was wondering if you guys have ever tried this welder and what you think about it. I paid $500 and something for it a year ago, but unfortunately I haven't been able to use it as our fuse panel is full, and I'm just worried that if something is wrong with it that now I'll be screwed as I wasn't able to plug it in to test it, I'm just praying that it's alright. I also bought a Yeswelder CUT 55DS Plasma Cutter, but that runs on 110V and 220V, but my Welder on runs on 220V. Shortly after I bought the Mig 250A Pro, then they came out with a new version that you can operate using a spool gun, and I wish I would have known they were going to do that, because then I would have waited a few more months to get that one.
Pulse is more or less built in to inverter machines. They use a MOFSET to take AC 240 and up the frequency to many kHz and then push it through a rectifier as a way to get 200 amps and 20 ish volts. That's a highly simplified explanation. But part of that upping the freq means the pulse is part of the electronics.
Yeah, I've wondered what the controller is for the inverter control, so like can hack into the firmware if is like a MCU design so can add additional options like different waveforms, frequency controls and offset-balance control for like AC (DCEN to DCEP) aluminum welding since other than an algorithm... seems those machines have the circuitry capabilities with the controller options if not a solid state controller with no digital firmware controls.
I just had to watch this video of yours.. and I would have definitely lost money on this vevor tig welder.. this welder would compare with the dc function on my lincon 200m ac/dc tig. I just love your Hick video as I am aussie and I have been welding since the late 80's.. you are good honest yanks❤
Wish I would have fallowed you a long time ago, but, glad I didn't pass this video up, lol. Seems I have quite a few videos to watch to get caught up with you lol. I am really interested in the magdrill too. New subscriber by the way.
yeah,,,as a handyman, I was surprised and impressed by the welder I bought and the ability and functions it had,,same sort of deal,,small, light, cheap,,,only one I use or need now,,
These type of welders are good for the very beginners and that's a great thing because it will get people welding earlier in life and not wasting time thinking about it. We need a lot more welders in the world. Which can also lead to other trades and skills.
I had a 90amp harbor freight flux it was garbage I realized that after flux core mig welding with a millermatic 212. I recently got a cheap 220 dollar with 2 year warranty multi process welder and super surprised and happy how well it works. It will do tig but the torch is sold separate I've only done stick and mig mostly mig tho but it's nice to have all option in one machine so I can practice what I don't know and use what I do know efficiently
they can be good, but they can be bad as well... Depends on the individual machine and the factory's quality control standards (if any).
Can’t find a single place that is hiring for an apprentice I tried Mississippi, Virginia and in my state they don’t have an apprenticeship program . Called ingles shipyard in MS for 2 months and they don’t answer their phone . Virginia wanted my transcripts and they haven’t got back to me so I don’t see how America is in need of welders when allot of these places don’t get back to you
@Antonio Lopez wtf do you mean "virginia hasn't gotten back to me?"
Businesses in America are privately owned.... the state they're in has very little to do with the company.. you didn't look hard, I took a 3 weekend course right when I got out of jail and got hired making 48k/yr starting right after I got my d1.1 plate cert
@@tragikk03 as in Virginia I mean welding apprentice businesses aka programs
Been welding for over 30 years. Although I often buy Miller, Lincoln, and even ESAB, I have had all of those three suffer failures from time to time. I also have an AHP tig welder and it gets used just as often as the rest. It's the only one that hasn't failed yet. It was $700. The rest were $2500 - $5500...
I also have an AHP alphatig 200 , v2 that i bought in 2017 it absolutely is great!!!
I loved my AlphaTIG 200. It went through a lot of heavy abuse for three years before the boards went out. I run an Everlast 210 now.
Sounds like they were using the "Yeti" effect on us all.... If it costs more it MUST be better🤣🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
I use to believe in yellow and blue, until I worked in a shop of mostly blue and like you said they were down and out more than my cousins junker.
Then the labor or warranty tech wanted an arm and a leg. Once I saw the prime weld reviews I bought one. Love it for my garage.
To this day (3 years later) 2 of the 5 machines at my shop are still out of commission or broken for repair 😂
Besides the big brand name, I'll bet a lot of the components inside are made in China anyways. In the end you are paying for the name brand and these other companies most likely have less overhead and they can cut the cost to the consumers. Maybe we are OVERYPAYING for the name brands and what we consider cheap is normal price?
I have a $200 tig welder too, I picked it up to learn on and to try and fix my vintage aluminum mountain bike frame and it wasn't bad compared to the high dollar rig we have at work. I learned on my own at home and came to work one day and welded something up for my boss he said I had no idea you knew how to tig weld?? I said yea I think I can handle it, knowing that I'd been practicing for months. Also fixed my mtn bike frame ✊🏽💪🏽🤷🏽
Great flex
what welder do you have?
$200 AC welder?
I think one of the biggest differences would be the duty cycle.
But for DIYers that's not a problem.
People are always hopping right on duty cycle but I agree with you, if you're not doing production welding it's nearly impossible to max it out. I've seen youtubers try and it's not easy unless you crank the amps all the way up. Most of the time you *need to* stop and let your work cool or set up your next weld long before the welder starts overheating. Even a pro fabricator on a site spends ten times as long prepping as they do with the trigger on. And if duty cycle is the only issue... you gotta think about whether you'd rather just use two $200 welders instead of one $2000 one.
One of the only time I have been concerned with duty cycle is with plasma cutters
I've been very surprised at how well the cheap welders do. For the hobbyist these are the way to go
its just when one day like a cheap light bulb they fail, then it in the bin and buy another.
I hear you but 5 of them need to fail before you get to Miller money
For carrying in the field these units rock, way lighter than the old transformer types and plenty of power for most stuff on 110v, huge difference when you are literally carrying it all day. It will do about the same output as my older ones but draws less current allowing a smaller gauge cord or use a much longer with less loss, very helpful.
The fact that the mag drill and anvil you reviewed from them both cost more than this tig welder is blowing my mind!
You should also look at a Primeweld Tig225x I've had one for 4 years now and I absolutely love it. It's an AC/DC machine, comes with a CK torch, and the customer service has been great. I had one of the earlier models with an older style peddle when it went out they sent me the new model free, Since then I haven't had any issues from it. It was about $700 but it was the only machine on the market that gave you so much stuff for the cost.
Then I also had one of their plasma cutters and it started acting up I opened it up to see if anything was burnt out and they said not to worry about it and they over nighted me a new one and kept the one one for spare parts and the second one hasn't given me issues on even the hottest of days.
Primeweld customer service is excellent.
I bought one of these a while back and was surprised how well it worked too. It seemed to weld just as well as the old Lincoln Electric welders at my school
Hi, does your Vevor welder is still working? I wish I have money to buy a Lincoln, but I don't and I need one, would you recommend the Vevor? Thank you
@@supercalcium I didn't use it very long because it was DC only and I needed something that could weld aluminum. So I can't say much about their longevity.
@@HatersGarage thank you
I bought a 135 amp stick welder 2 years ago for about $125CAD, and if you plug it into a 220v socket (does 110 too, just not as well) it WILL push out 135 amps. I couldn't get it to overheat and I was running it constantly for at least half an hour with no breaks except to change rods. When I finished, the test piece was warped MANY degrees but the little welder stayed ice cold. Rule #1 of using cheap welders is always change out the ground clamp and torch for a good one as soon as you're able--a good, beefy ground makes all the difference in the world compared to the lame stamped metal stuff you get with these things.
Just ordered one online for $159. Can't wait to see how it works.
The holders on top of the welder are for beer. I was sure "you guys" would know that. :)
I"m always skeptical when a vendor sends you a product to "Test" I remember a Motor Trend Radar detector test where one company sent in a "cheap" detecter that outperformed the other more expensive models. They opened it up and it was was more advanced than the "Off the Shelf" model the bought and opened up. It would be interesting to order one anonymously and run the same test.....
See now that's an interesting consideration! We'd love to do a blind test comparison on some products like this in the future, so thank you for this idea! Would also be interesting to gather stories from anyone who's purchased these products on their own to see if their experience differentiates from ours. - Walker
@@LiftArcStudios bought a plasma cutter from Vevor , (my last one cost over a thousand pounds and is on its third breakdown, repair will be around two hundred on a machine now worth about two fifty), the Vevor is a fraction of the size and doesn't need hard wiring making it very portable, so far its cut everything I have pushed at it, the only downside is a shorter duty cycle when pushed close to its limit but its a smaller machine to start with, maybe not a machine for a fabrication shop but ideal for keen diy builder and very price attractive.
I have also recently purchased a bead roller from the same people, a little limited on the thickness it can handle, just means I will have to buy thinner sheet in future, but everything is there to do a job, this is not a criticism of the machine but if you buy a manual machine you really need someone to turn the handle as you work it as it is so much easyer and more accurate, I am in the process of gathering the bits to motorize mine with a small 12v winch motor and chain , if you go this route then KEEP IT SLOW, and use a foot pedal to operate it, 12v DC is easy to switch forwards and backwards using two push switches, I have made a number of panels with mine in both thin steel and aluminum and even though I am at the start of the learning curve it has made a huge difference already, if you are a keen DIY fabricator can you afford not to have one?.
It's crazy how much technology has advanced in the last 10 years. I purchased a multi-process welder off of Amazon for $400 and it outperforms the Miller that I paid $1,300 for. Granted the Miller is about 8 years old now, but it is still insane that a Chinese "junk" welder preforms like that. Not to mention the fact that the Miller it is not a 4 in 1 machine. The Chinese multi-process welder will do stick, MIG, Flux core, and lift TIG with high frequency start. I mainly use it for stick and TIG, but it is a damn good MIG welder as well. It will burn everything from 1/16 7018 all the way up to 5/32 hard facing rod. I tested it out with some 1/2 inch plate as well and It is hands down good enough for industrial work.
What brand is the multiprocess welder?
The crazy thing is that at $200, you really have very little to lose. If you spend $200 on this, buy a tank of argon, start investing in other accessories, then when you want to step up to an AC/DC welder, the next logical step is something like Primeweld for $800-900 which has all the capability you could need if you aren't in a factory production environment. So sure, you're out $200, but then you also have a backup or portable machine, and your gas plus other accessories all carry over.
great comparison. How about doing a video with the Vevor $225 plasma cutter?
I bought a Vevor wire feed, and I am impressed with the bang for buck factor.
When your gas bottle costs more than the welder!
Hey guys you really put that $200 tig welder thru it's paces. Really good video, I couldn't stop watching. Well done.
So glad this video was released! All of my practice has been on mild steel cause it’s easily available and it’s been tricky trying to put the basics from aluminum over to mild steel on my own. Definitely didn’t expect 3mm instead of 6mm like I’ve been doing. Thank a ton for this!!
PRIME WELD 225x was $620 prior to Covid and it can weld circles around any Everlast machine , the Eastwood for sure, and just about every single machine I’ve ever used except my precision 375 but I still like the Prime weld is better.
I have the primeweld 225x and love it too! Matter of fact, I just welded a centerstand for my motorcycle this weekend and worked like a champ. Their 50 amp plasma cutter works really well too! Using the primeweld, I made heavy duty aluminum racks to go on the top of my trucks camper shell and it did really well welding aluminum with tig.
I've only been in manufacturing for over a year, but these guys are 100% the most likeable welders I've ever met. Kudos.
Really? I thought his sarcasm got old after the first twenty minutes or so. Hahaha..
U noticed both torches probably came from the same factory... most of the internals on the welders probably did as well. That was proven with the vulcan pro tig 200 compared to Miller I believe.
Ive used a few things from vevor. I cant complain. I have their 5 gallon 3 pot still. Works amazing for the price. An anvil. Is perfectly acceptable for cast. And dad has a tool of theirs. Im thinking about maybe getting their mini mill.
Their sonic cleaners are pretty good and my wife was very happy with their portable goat milking machine. Yes, they make those too!
I’ve been really thinking about getting one of these. I can mig weld good enough for everyone to say my welds look horrible so i think i’m ready to learn how to tig weld.
Hi! Thanks for the informative video!
For the last 4 years I’ve been working on developing a testing tool for the welding machines. I’ve learned a lot about how they work and how different manufacturers understand the theory of an arc welding.
You absolutely can create a nice welder for $200 but the difference is, would you be able to make it perform identically in any condition, temperature range, voltage drop in your outlet etc. in other words buying a well-known brand you buy confidence. You come to the shop you flip the switch and you get the same results no matter what. But on the other end it’s not that bad to buy a cheap welder because they weld good enough for hobbyists
You must work for the company they acquired this product from?
@@samrogerskeeponkeepingon1486 Nope! I'm not working for any company and my product is still under development.
@@vladshmit I don't remember typing that sorry brother. Had some drinks
You are right about being able to make one for that amount and I am very sorry for what I said
I know it aint hot where yenz are filming but that man Standing there in that leather, doing a review on cheap welders…. Is diabolical
We just added a thermometer in our time lapse shots just so people understand this!
I worked for 33 years in an industrial setting, loved to tig weld! A friend of mine has a home setting tig rig. Other than the lack of a peddle, it's just as good for sheet metal fabing!facing!! You just have to have argon and get used to adjusting the head due to the lack of the foot peddle!
Retired yet shopping. As a kid on the farm with a 50's crank top Lincoln stick, I welded the broken implements. My step dad & grandfather could drink "Hamm's" beer, but couldn't weld. I most, we start with a torch then in 84 bought an Italian DECA 150Amp MIG. Works great 37 years later and has a transformer bigger than most Honda engines.
Thanks for the funny review making it clear that is works but can't reverse polarity to do aluminum. Sad! Just rebuilding a decent 67-C10 because it's my childhood (Age 13-drivers license; school / farm w/no photo) sheet metal as TIG is softer for hammer & dolly. Thanks!
How much kickback could you possibly get on the $250 welder I feel like I should just send you five dollars🎉
Surprised too. Expected there to be a wonky, varying tig arc, cheaply assembled torch and maybe a collet that doesn't really grip the tungsten or deforms and you can't get it out. Barbed fitting is OK if you've got a dedicated regulator (why would you not?). A full project's worth of welding is the next test, and maybe running it at the high end of it's capability to see how stable and hot the arc is and remains. If all's good, then a penny saved is a penny earned. At least if it fell off of the tailgate and stopped working, you could in good conscience just throw it away.
more like a dollar than a penny LOL
I don't know why I clicked on this video. I'm not in the market for a tig machine. I'll be ordering this in the next couple days. Thanks Dick.
Our Lincoln inverter 135 we use in the field messes with radio sources too
I have had a Lotus tig for about 5years now and it never has failed me. Since welders are all electronics now they're cheaper to make because electronics are so cheap. Great for beginners and hobbyists.
I have a $250 tig welder. Same size as the everlast and with all the same functions. Up/down slope, pulse, ac dc, foot pedal...
We figure the best welding machine is actually the one that works best for you! This is especially true when starting out, no one knows if this is there thing when they first pick up a torch, it seems almost crazy to spend $2000 on anything starting out.
I'm a retired mechanic not a welder and when looking for a cheap welder for the garage I found these Vevor welders, watched some video's on people using these machines. There are a lot of u-tubers testing these machines, Vevor are giving them out to anyone who will make a demo video. Out of the maybe 12 or so video's of various Vevor welding machines I've not seen one bad review.I bought a 270 model multi function {Mig/Tig and Arc} with 4 dial adjustments. I've tried the solid core and arc functions and it seems to weld as well as if not better than the machines in any shop I worked. So ya I agree with you a cheap machine that works this well weird right? So I'm thinking maybe I could use a plasma cutter.....
"maybe I could use a plasma cutter" made ME laugh! I bought a plasma from Aliexpress 5 yrs ago. Out of the box had to re-solder 5 connections where 1 board joined the main board. Since then, been flawless and best $400 CAN I've spent.
That man gonna sunburn from the overhead lights. 😂
I like your funny relaxed approach, good for a huge smile on my face, keep up the good works!
Was almost pulling the plunge on a €1700 ac/dc Jasic TIG welder for making my own battery rack (need to place 80 EVE Lithium cells of each 5-6 kgs so this rack needs to be strong and stable out of RVS 304 stainless steel.
Since I need to figure out if I m talented enough for a steep priced machie, this kind of starter machines - specially with pulse and HF start on it - would be a good start.
If I like welding, the better machine will come later 😁
Thanks buddy! That's the way to do it for sure. A lot of people get hung up on gear and it becomes an obstacle for them to overcome even before they give it a shot. Also, speaking from experience, getting good on something cheap or crappy makes getting something nice REALLY nice and feels a million times easier once you start using it.
I'd definitely be interested in checking this out for hobbyist stuff. Would you consider a welding for dummies video? Show what gas to use, what basic settings, some logic as to why, where to ground and why, maybe test out a cheap vivor mask even? Or if there is a video out there with this info that you like would you mind posting the link? You guys rock!
Welding for dummies would be a really fun video! Anything that gets more people interested in the fabrication world! I'll write this suggestion on the whiteboard and make sure Tay and I iron out some details for something like that :) Thanks! - Walker
@@LiftArcStudios Agreed. I'd watch the shit out of it.
I got a wide view auto darkening mask on Amazon for 40 bucks with full adjustability the closest equivalent mask at harbor freight is 80 and it's missing all the adjustments and features the mask it is based on is around 200 bucks. I have no complaints yet. It's a bit thin but it works great. For someone not doing it every day the amazon stuff works I got a multi-process mig tig stick machine with 2-year warranty for 220 delivered to my door and the thing is surprisingly great. Just this weekend I Was even welding a thin rusted out exhaust pipe back the the muffler and even was able to weld up some blow out in the body of the rusted out muffler itself at first it burned rite thru but after some adjusting, it worked just fine.
Please do weekly Welding Demo videos with this Vevor Tig Welder to establish it's Long Term Reliability. otherwise I'm going to assume it broke right after the video ended. Thanks, Great Video.
Think of it this way: Shop type welders are shop type welders.... portable field welders doesn't have the whiz bang of shop type but, if you got to go where the shop won't fit, you'll need the nano-pocket size fixamajig device.
im glad that the eastwood is your first one cause the one i got for my first rig was the AHP alphatig 200x and it was around the same price. about 760 dollars and it has a digital read out and has AC as well
Again you proved MY point! It's NEVER the paint, brush or canvas! It's always the Maestro!!
You could weld titanium with a shredded coke can and bic lighter!! Your skills are Gawd Level!!!
Purchased with link. So excited. Thank you
I bought a cheap AC/DC welder some 10 years ago. It worked perfectly well right from the start and welded really well regular steel, stainless, aluminum. I kept it in a dirty garage where there was metel dust flying everywhere, a few times I left it overnight outside, in the rain. My garage wasn't heated so it experienced humidity and temperature variations between hot summer and snowy winter. Works fine till this day.
I bought another one some months ago. I only modified the things which are usually crappy, so I built my custom torch which is smaller, has a separate hose for gas and a separate wire (flexible silicone) for the current. I also repositioned the button all the way to the front so that I press it with my index finger. I even welded really thick stuff with those welders.
The bad news for you is that the Eastwood TIG comes from the same factory as generic ones. It's just being rebranded. If you want to buy a lager numbers of machines the factory creates branding for you. So for example you order 100 pieces and the front plate and sides have 'Ugly Joe Company' or whatever you want. Like Eastwood.
as a novice stick welder i dont understand a damn thing but its enjoyable to watch
Not a welder, but thinking about getting one as a hobby. I'm a guitar player. When I started out with a 60$ guitar, and I thought the guitar was limiting how good it sounded. But one day an expert played it at my home, and I realized that the guitar (the tool) wasn't as big of bottleneck as I thought. Sure, the top of the line gear I now have sounds and plays a lot better, but the biggest factor is the player, not the gear. So, I'm not surprised that it performed well.
Ha, well my $60 guitar is still my favorite and an artist works with what he or she has available to produce their vision of mind.
That being said, I’m more easily frustrated with cheap industrial tools that fail to perform and could dangerous to operate than I am of cheap music gear.
China is working very hard to put the American middleman out of business and why wouldn’t they?
My question: will that vevor welder last 10 years or 10 days?
I love that you said Giving up The Goat* at 29:24 😄
Great video.. I do custom metal fab for a living,.use a big old Lincoln square wave tig, but looking for something at home for when I don't wanna do stuff at the shop
My meat slicer is made by Vevor and its fantastic. Thank you for showing us this welder.
meat slicer sounds like a euphemism for flesh light
Vevor really are knocking it out of the park (baseball reference) with so many of their products - I recently got their Mag drill, it's equally impressive with less than 0.0005" (I measure in metric - it's less than 0.01mm) runout in the spindle
Good review, thank you
i just bought a yeswelder tig 205ds off marketplace for $80 and it works great. it came with a tig torch that has a flex head, and the gas connection was a regular screw on.
I love how in 2023 people still don’t realize how basic tig welding is. It’s literally complicated stick welding. Which is why Chinese machines can produce the same welds.
What you pay for is the color, warranty, interface and amp range. In some cases arc quality/features like pulse, AC and other creature comforts.
But either way all of these welders cost no more than $300 a unit to produce. That $3,000 price tag again is due to the color, named sticker and warranty.
I haven't got a TIG welder of any kind but I've got a bunch of other Vevor products . I've not been disappointed with anything I've bought from them. They make great stuff for a home hobbyist.
That little tig machine put out a nice weld. It looks like a very good starter machine because of the $$, HF, pulse and dual voltage.
For a kid thinking about getting into the business or a home hobbyist it sounds great.
Don't know if you guys have tried them before but wen is another good cheap brand and I can tell you there drill presses hold up in a shop used all day
We used a TELWYN years ago, because it was the same size as that one..
150 pipe butt welds,316, roots..hot passes and capped off...all x ray...no dips...but, back in the 90s...$2500...amazing now.
I weld stainless process piping for a living . Young kid showed up to the job with the same exact welder .... my my miller maxstar 200 was at the other enc of the plant so i gave his lil machine a go , I almost cried , it welded as good as my miller ..... now will it last 10 years with daily use , probably not , but I was impressed how well it welded sch 40 stainless pipe.(edit) the twist connect are miller type connections
Would be nice to see the part cut and the weld etched to see fusion..
We plan on doing our own version of the "Welding Olympics" soon and those are perfect suggestions for judging.
A look at the Vevor specs: When connected to a 110V outlet, this puppy expects to pull 60A. Wow!
So, the reality is these welders are really just fancy power supplies. Making an efficient power supply is extremely common now days, so this isn't really a leap. The reason why they don't have the functions like AC, or slopes, that requires fancier control circuitry.
However, for just current control, or voltage up and down, it's a piece of cake.
You're spot on with the consumables. However, they aren't "abnormal", they are using standard connectors in the metric/ISO world, which are a bit harder to get over here in North America.
You're spot on, you can weld with a car battery I hear if you have enough of them.
@@LiftArcStudios You're absolutely correct. It was a commonplace way of fixing things in the field for offroaders to just keep some welding cables, a few jumper cables and a couple welding rods.
Given that most welding is done around 20-something volts, you really only need two batteries in series. But, for the high amps you need a couple in parallel.
This would make an amazing video, BTW.... *hint* *hint* *hint* *hint*
Thank you for going to the trouble to produce this fine video. It was fun AND instructive. I must say however that, in the end, it was a waste of 41.07 minutes for me, and all of us north of the USA border as Vevor chooses not to market this item in Canada or allow Canadian viewers on to their USA website. I have bought from Vevor in the past and so was predisposed toward this product , but now I know to check before watching. For the same reason I don't bother with watching videos of Harbor Freight etc, but I mistakenly thought Vevor was cross border.
Maybe in the future you might inquire on the availability of their items and post a 'heads up' at the start?
I am not a welder - never done it - but I really enjoyed your video. It was cool to hear your tone of voice change as you discovered this thing ain't too bad. Only complaint is hearing you don't intend to do long-sleeved shirts in your merch right now. I have WAAAAAY too many short-sleeved T-shirts already. So .......
Great video.
You did a fair and honest review.
Thanks for sharing.
Just subscribed to your channel.
Take care, Ed.
The size is because it's an inverter! That tech is changing the game for welding!
It’s all about good stable power supplies and electronics.
You can buy a cheap conversion kit to turn your stick welder into DC Tig machine.
I use an InverArc TLP-200 that has pulse capability for stick.
It makes a great DC tig welder as well.
So it’s no surprise to me that Vevor can turn out a descent DC Tig welder for that price.
It would be good to see how long the HF start lasts.
I've used different vevor products before, like core drills and plasma cutter. For what they are, i have been very happy and functioned well and still functioning for over two 2yrs. Can't complain. Is it high-end no, but will it get the job done in most cases, yes
You can heat it up in the middle with the heat gun and pull on it in the hose will get smaller and then you put it on that little bar fitting. I do it all the time I know it works.
Between this channel and Project Farm. I'm set for life, really. Oh, and RCR, Regular Car Reviews.
The audio cutting out is interesting and might give you an indication as to why the cost is lower - in many/most other countries that produce electronics they have to be sent off to regulating bodies which test that they do not interfere with radio equipment (Like CE mark in Europe). Although I am no expert in Chinese electronics, I strongly suspect they go through no such testing. (this same point extends to safety regulations and testing).
It would be very interesting to see the breakdown of the costs that go into a 'western' welder. I am sure the electronic themselves would be far more expensive, but I bet there i significant cost in the regulatory hurdles and of course the labour of those people who manufacture it.
The supporting foot pedal must be an essential feature that is missed in the cheaper machine. I have one; the front micro switch came loose soon after a couple of times of use. The gas hose fitting in the back is also barbed, which I could never stop the leak from due to weird access to add. So, I guess horses for courses - nothing comes cheap without a good reason.
I decided on the one size smaller Everlast - but great vid, thanks for the honest review!
I love Vevor as a brand. For some reason they tend to be reasonable value per dollar
Clearly you aren't paid to endorse the Vevor product line. Your doubts going in only validate the value in scope of what they provide. Entry level product price with a standard level production. No too shabby.
Clearly, you are paid. 😂
I've been seeing that that brand pop up in a few different markets. I bought a diesel heater for my car. Not sure how well it works compared to the legit ones. I have it physically installed, but have to finish wiring it up. I have a feeling I'm going to have to buy a smaller one though because I got an 8kw one for a 4 door sedan. We use 2 kW ESPAR ones in the trucks at work, but they are insulated better. Have to see how much it cycles on and off when I get it running.
For the average American that only uses their machine for hobbies it is hard to pay the high dollar for American made. All will agree that we would buy American if we could but. Thank you for the review.
Looking forward to a long term test too. Thanks
At that price, most homeowners should get one of these or the Vevor mig with internal spool just to learn with and eventually keep their Ford on the road or repair your patio set instead of getting a new one every 3 years.
There's a saying, that's true in many industries "Its not the arrow, its the Indian". Even the most rudimentary tools in the hands of a master or someone with reasonable skill can do an impressive job. And in the hands of an amateur or a poser, even the best tools can produce a cluster f. But, having basically good tools at a price point like this helps more people acquire the fundamental skills WELL the first time, and then when they achieved proficiency, be able to take advantage of some of the more advanced features of the pricier gear. Love the channel, the no nonsense attitude, and although you keep deriding your skill as a welder, you get it done, and the result is good, which makes the difference, seems to be your passion. Wish you continued success, I'll be watching.
I've wondered how easy would be to hack in the balance AC (DCEN DCEP offset or ratio) functionality? Seems like whatever controls the H-bridge inverter is all that needs to be tapped into. Ideally someone hacking out (reverse engineering) the MCU that controls the H-bridge functions in relation to the input settings so the additional function is added with maybe another button with LED indicator with marking with the rotary encoder for setting range options with or without push button I guess... maybe need the push button to set the value.
I don't know if you know your ass from a hole in the ground or not, because I don't. But you sold me on letting you try it if it were my welder.
The look of "not what I was expecting" is real.
It may be DC only and no stainless or aluminum BUT... There are hobbyists out there that want to weld light gage sheet metal for car projects, art projects, etc. and don't necessarily weld very often nor do they need a gas tig weldingsetup or big arc welder...
And I'm ok with that.
I've also had some good luck (though very limited exposure) to this company and am happy with the cust. service, shipping and the product.
Thanks for the video.
I need to make a few TIG welds for a small project. I can't justify spending more than a few bucks on the equipment for such a small project so I'm glad I found this video and this machine. If it works out and I do more projects like this, I'll look to you guys for a recommendation on a higher-end machine. Thanks.
Would this be a good machine for someone that knows nothing about welding but wants to learn.
Man they went that far should of just got it to do Aluminum & would probably tripled the sales.
Because anytime you buy welding machine you’re always buying the name. I have had expensive welders and cheap ones and truthfully the cheaper ones seen it a lot better than the high and expensive ones. It’s quite mind blowing actually..
The 210 ext on sale is 1600.00. It's not close to 2500. The 255ext is listed at 2500 but sells much lower on sale. Might want to revise.
It's the snap-on phenomenon. There are sub- $100.00 Tig welders that work great.
I’m a beginner and wanted to learn tig, I considered the DC only but I wanted to learn aluminum tig so I bought the Vevor 250A, it does everything it says, my son is an expert welder, works for Potelco, he came over to check it out and he was impressed considering he uses a $10K welder in his shop, time with my son, “PRICELESS “
Do you have a link to the one you bought?
Glad I found this. Been looking for something to fart around with in tig so I can learn it but can't see myself buying the miller I really want unless I turn it into a side business.
You are in shock,
Some one said to me as a beginner you need to spend £2000 GBP,
But you proved different.
I guess a better test would be to open both welders and see if the guts are similar before just assuming
I have a question, I bought a Yeswelder MIG 250A Pro multi-process welder, which does MIG, TIG and Stick with a 60% duty cycle, and it welds aluminum using the MIG gun that you have to switch to the graphite liner to weld aluminum, so I was wondering if you guys have ever tried this welder and what you think about it. I paid $500 and something for it a year ago, but unfortunately I haven't been able to use it as our fuse panel is full, and I'm just worried that if something is wrong with it that now I'll be screwed as I wasn't able to plug it in to test it, I'm just praying that it's alright. I also bought a Yeswelder CUT 55DS Plasma Cutter, but that runs on 110V and 220V, but my Welder on runs on 220V.
Shortly after I bought the Mig 250A Pro, then they came out with a new version that you can operate using a spool gun, and I wish I would have known they were going to do that, because then I would have waited a few more months to get that one.
Pulse is more or less built in to inverter machines. They use a MOFSET to take AC 240 and up the frequency to many kHz and then push it through a rectifier as a way to get 200 amps and 20 ish volts. That's a highly simplified explanation. But part of that upping the freq means the pulse is part of the electronics.
Yeah, I've wondered what the controller is for the inverter control, so like can hack into the firmware if is like a MCU design so can add additional options like different waveforms, frequency controls and offset-balance control for like AC (DCEN to DCEP) aluminum welding since other than an algorithm... seems those machines have the circuitry capabilities with the controller options if not a solid state controller with no digital firmware controls.
Iam about to order that Welder now...
I just had to watch this video of yours.. and I would have definitely lost money on this vevor tig welder.. this welder would compare with the dc function on my lincon 200m ac/dc tig. I just love your Hick video as I am aussie and I have been welding since the late 80's.. you are good honest yanks❤
I realized at the end there, those cup holders are for the wrapping the cables on.
Wish I would have fallowed you a long time ago, but, glad I didn't pass this video up, lol. Seems I have quite a few videos to watch to get caught up with you lol. I am really interested in the magdrill too. New subscriber by the way.
yeah,,,as a handyman, I was surprised and impressed by the welder I bought and the ability and functions it had,,same sort of deal,,small, light, cheap,,,only one I use or need now,,