I can tell you Everlast warranty is pretty good. Mine died at 4 years and sent it to them to fix. It took about a month and came back clean and working like new. But you do pay your own shipping
I’ve got three Everlast machines, and have had to go through customer service a few times. One mistake was my own, the others were easy fixes. Few companies can hold a candle to Everlast when it comes to customer service. Miller is okay, but their warranty isn’t as good, and boy will you pay dearly once your machine goes out of warranty.
I have an ESAB Rebel 205. It’s great. I had the 215, but gave it away when I got this one. Very smooth arc. Does AC tig. Yep prices have sure gone up. My 215 kit, with foot pedal and aluminum spool gun was $2200. Now, it’s $3,100. My 205 kit, no aluminum gun because I tig aluminum and can use the aluminum spool gun with this one if I want to mig it, was $3,200. Now, it’s between $4,200 and $5,000 depending on where you buy it. Crazy!
First time watcher. My career was TV news, so I have some pretty strong opinions on the matter of video communication. Don't change a thing. Humility and truth (you have them on your side) will always WIN in life and CZcams. I have an Everlast 210 EXT -- my first ever welder -- and I love it. Mark Yugo is the only guy to talk to at Everlast. He also is a great communicator, like you.
@@LiftArcStudios Finally got the hang of aluminum today, so satisfying to see a straight consistent bead! Love you guys' videos, they're useful and a lot of fun.
With regard to the "pro set" on the Everlast, and on all machines for that matter: It's a very simple formula that a MIG welder works with, There are two adjustments on the machine, voltage and wire feed speed. The remaining physical ingredients are gas and the actual wire used. This is to say, that in a true experimental setting, If you took the exact same wire and the exact same gas and ran them with the exact same voltage and exact same wire feed speed through two different machines, which are set to the exact same settings, you should get the exact same result for any particular weld. If you're not getting the same results on two different machines when you do the same type of weld, then there is an obvious difference between the two machines. The difference isn't going to be complicated to figure out. First off, are the values on the chart of the machine or the chart you looked up online the same on the "bad" machine as the values on the machine that works better for you? If they aren't, then the values of the better-working machine are probably better for you to use. If the displayed/charted values are identical and one machine is working better than the other, then the likely cause is that the output values are wrong on one of the machines. The wrong amount of voltage or wire feed is being output by the inferior machine. The output values don't match the displayed values on that machine. The "bad" welding machine is putting out too many or too few feet per minute of wire, or the delivered voltage is not accurate to what's needed. When you "get to know a machine" you're often just getting to know that a certain machine "runs slow wire" and you need to set for a higher speed than you thought, or another machine "runs hot" and you need to set the voltage a bit lower than is indicated on the dial as far as the charts would tell you. In the end, the difference between a modern higher end machines and cheaper machines may just come down to how accurately and evenly they each feed wire and throw voltage and display it to the user within their market segment of similar machines.
Dude, I have watched most of your videos, and this one was amazing. Great information and you really broke it down to a level where someone who is new can understand it. You guys should consider a learn to weld series for MIG and TIG, because the way you convey information is super easy to understand.
DIdn't know, that I would enjoy a due showing off his toys so much for over an hour, but here we are. Great comprehensive tour through the range ao welders.
I have a Everlast 255EXT and a Miller Dynasty 210. I use the Everlast the most and compared them welding aluminum and can not see any difference. the pulse on the Dynasty seems more crisp but other than that same. As far as what you said about aluminum needing less power that is the opposite. You have electrode positive and electrode negative. The negative is the heat and the positive is the cleaning action. this is where the balance control comes in.
I can't say anything bad about Everlast. I bought the 210 ext. Sold it and upgraded to a dynasty. Bought the 50 p plasma. Had a issue with the air not shutting off. Everlast sent me another unit free of charge. With exchange of my unit. Did not loose any down time. Convinced my dad to by the 255 tig with cooler. He is a old time Welder. He can not believe the power that comes from the small Everlast package. I use my 150 max star in the field as a ship Welder. For big Jobs I use my Miller 350 vs with the 12 suit case Welder. You save alot of money running using 44 lb spools. Love Everlast. There is a difference when you need to roll your equipment in the dirt. I still use the plasma cutter. Have not had an issue in years.
Thanks Tay, It is good to see a REAL side by side comparison and Honest Critique of all Different Welders from different Manufacturers and Different era's. Shout out From a Fabricator in Australia, My Tig Welder at Work is a "TokenTools" 315 ACDC, with Water cooler, 415 volt, which looks nearly Identical to the Everlast but it is Red instead of Green. The face plates are basically Identical, made in the Factory Next door to the Everlast, (I've been told by the TokenTools owner) with Toshiba Mosfets, and other Quality Electronics. I have welded everything from 0.045" Alluminium plate, to 5/8" thick Bisaloy 400 Plate with it, It has the "Grunt".
I also have the Miller 212 Autoset. Bought it new about 6 years ago. It is a tank. Has taken everything I have thrown at it. I just love it and can't see ever getting rid of it! It is beautifully simple and reliable and that is priceless.
I’m sure the barley pops before unboxing could have had an influence in your colorful review originally. Humble pie is bitter but right to eat when you’re not up to snuff on a given subject. Touché
Fun fact for ya: that little Miller 140STR was made by FRONIUS. You’ll notice is says “made in Austria” on it. Good little machine, you should put it to work!
A few years ago I won $1000 bucks from an Eastwood sweepstakes and bought the AC/DC Digital Tig 200 from them. It only cost me 100 plus tax. It's a friggin awesome welder. I beat the living crap out of it until the torch is about to melt. I've never payed attention to the duty cycle and it keeps on ticking. If it crapped out I wouldn't hesitate to get another one at full price.
@@mustangdemon87 literally just got done using it on some aluminum less than 5 minutes ago. Most of the digital tigs are about the same but I do wish I had a cooler. If it's only a couple hundred more I'd have to get the Everlast with a cooler.
Really nerdy & technical! Not sure why I enjoyed watching a video that is so, so, so far beyond my non-existent knowledge or skill on the subject matter, but I did.
I am 99% sure that the weldmark MP200 is a HF Titanium unlimited 200 multiprocess in a different wrapper. Your review of that welder mirrors my experience with the titanium. I have run my titanium as production welder for years and it's still runs awesome. No shame here on running a HF welder and project farm showed just how good the titanium welders are.
"Transformer" machines use a variable transformer to simply take the high voltage, low amperage AC from the wall and turn it into low voltage, high amperage AC. There are two problems here: First, the frequency and waveforms are the same as whatever was fed into the machine to begin with (usually 50/60hz sine). Second, such a large transformation at low frequencies requires a very large transformer... You need a giant iron core so the flux doesn't saturate too quickly, and you need a lot of loops of wire-- and it can't be very thin wire either because the amperage on the output is so high. The result is a very large, heavy, and inefficient machine. "Inverter" machines still use transformers, but they're much smaller, and they're decoupled from direct output. These machines take mains AC in from the wall, rectify it into DC, then use a digitally-controlled inverter to synthesize a super high frequency AC waveform which is then converted to low-voltage, high-current via a transformer. This transformer can be _much_ smaller than a "transformer machine's" transformer because of the ultra high frequency AC we're working with at this point. The higher the frequency, the quicker the magnetic field is changing directions. The more often that happens, the less of a problem flux saturation is. The less of a problem flux saturation is, the smaller you can make the core. From there, it is re-rectified back into DC and then either used directly (DC MIG/TIG) or converted back into AC using another inverter circuit (AC MIG/TIG) that is capable of synthesizing all of our wacky waveforms (square wave, triangle wave, etc. oscillating at frequencies that we can also control). All of this is possible because we're using digitally-controlled inverters to synthesize our own waveforms to do whatever is best for the task at hand, rather than just trying to directly use whatever the utility company provides (50/60hz sine) at the wall. Waveforms and frequencies for stepping up/down voltage and amperage aren't the best waveforms and frequencies for the _output_ side of AC welding and so on and so forth. With inverter-style machines, we control all of the variables.
To add to info - your idea about AC vs DC traveling over distance is correct [ but has little to do with welding ] ;) What AC is for with Aluminum is the " CLEANING affect of the change in direction of the voltage - up to electrode = cleans & down to base metal for melting . Then balance is how much - in what direction suits your project . At least as I understand it ;) 1st welding class in 1969 , now my 1st inverter welder a Everlast MTS Lightning 225 - still getting use to all the extra adjustments coming from transformer welders ----- I bought at auction a Miller high frequency - add on box back in the mid-late 80s , do not remember the model # . Overall I like the video , thanks
In addition to my selection of Millers and Lincolns and 45 years of experience I would rate my Everlasts right up with my comparable Millers. My Everlast 140 is comparable to the Maxstar and my 185 AC/DC with a comparable Dynasty with Hz and pulse.I am absolutely amazed by my $350 250 amp Toolium. On mig and flux core it will put out all 250 amps. Single pass 3/8". Aluminum settings for either the graphene liner or a spool gun. I would need a water cooled torch to even try to push it.
I have to replace a stolen Miller 220 AC/DC and with the sucky economy, I don't think I can skip enough meals to pay for another of the same, so your vid is a big help...thanks! That said, I no longer have as much of a demand for aluminum welding and thinking to go MIG only. Your love for your Miller 212 makes me want to go that direction, but I'm wondering if the new inverter technology runs as smoothly as the old windings/coil system...? (thinking you may have looked into it since you made this vid). New subscriber, good stuff.
Great to see a new video today Tay. Tay this is just a very helpful and definitely useful video explaining this. Thanks so much sir. It means a lot. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friends. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Forge Lit. Keep Making. God Bless
Important Note at 21:54 : The 160i and 161STH have a "similar" feature set, but NOT the same. with the160i you lose pulse, and manual preflow adjustment. if either of those are important to you, spend the extra $70.
Great video I was at Eastwood 2 days ago (the headquarters is 15 mins from me)… and I ask point blank about self repair and board availability and they told me they have the and will sell them to me if I want to fix it my self … repair is important to me I figured something is going to break at some point. Ans it’s convenient for me to be 15 away from them.
I'm wanting to get a TIG rig. I like the Typhoon 230 everlast. It's more advanced than myself having never tigged but I understand what the features are for the most part as I watch a video on them. It was really interesting about the wave forms & how the arc reacts heat wise. I'm looking at patching up dirty aluminum handrails. It's hard to spend that kind of money but buy once, cry once.
Going way back in time 30+ years ago Esab had a 130 and a 150 'Caddy' DC Tig welder very similar to your baby Miller in function. So they go back another decade and yes I am OLD 🤣
I can tell for a Fact I hit duty cycle on millers 211-212 and 255 always if it ain't 300 plus amps I can't weld with them longer than 20-30 minutes in a row with out hitting duty cycle and it chugging along I'll lay perfect breeds for a bout 2-3 feet on heavy gauge stuff then on the next set somewhere it will chug a long barely arc
I know little about welding, but I know a lot more about "entertainment". Your enthusiasm and honesty mixed with your wonderful sense of humour, (yes, i'm English, lol ) , entertains me, I've watched all your vids, (including the big one), and I've been spiffingly delighted, even if, sometimes, I didn't know what you were talking about. Keep up the good work old chap! 🙂 When it, (the vids), comes to me I'm usually having a nightcap whisky. ;-)
DC is more efficient because it doesn’t chop the electromagnetic field. A transformer can be used for AC making it easier to transmit have high voltage. DC until recently was difficult to get very high voltages. Now that is much easier with solid state circuits. Modern grid transmission is tending to DC. If you want the experience the chop in AC electromagnetic field stand near a grid tower in the rain!
Welding voltage on ac is less than 110v..so input voltage is irrelevant. On DC it must be converted from ac to DC first lossing at least half the voltage.
"inductance" is a property of coils of wire (ie, transformer windings), and the more windings, the more inductance, which is why transformer machines are so smooth. Inverters operate on the principal of digitally switching the power at very high frequencies so that transformers can be very small and light and the machine is overall more efficient, but they have basically no inductance because of the tiny coils inside.. When you turn up the "inductance" setting, it is just digitally altering the waveform to emulate the effect of inductance, but IMO, they still don't quite get as smooth as a old transformer welder... Also, your garden hose analogy makes no sense whatsoever... AC's big benefit is that you can easily put it through a transformer to make the voltages higher and currents lower so that tranamission losses which are proportional to the square of the current, are significantly lower. I don't know how you would try to equate this effect to a garden hose analogy, but it is definitely not what you described...
Great explanation of inductance, thank you! makes a lot of sense My hose analogy was mainly in reference to DC, and im not the first person to over simplify electrics with this metaphor. i even stated that its a poor analogy and over simplified... calm down. a lot of our viewers dont have an electrical engineering degree and most welders just know what noise its supposed to make when working properly and not how inductance works inside the machine. I try to have fun and simplify things when possible
@@LiftArcStudiosSimplification is great when it is accurate but in this case it's not even "oversimplified", it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever, even for DC (there is a reasonable analogy for voltage=pressure and current=flow volume and the size of your garden hose affecting these for DC, but your description didn't bear any resemblance to this and simple didn't make any sense at all) The closest you might come is transporting coal (DC) vs oil (AC). Coal is a solid and can only to be transported via truck/train/ship which is expensive whereas oil can be pumped down a pipeline which is a lot cheaper. Oil can come in many grades and can be very thick and inefficient to pump, but by heating heavy oil to thin it, it makes it easier to flow through the pipeline and converting AC to very high voltages to reduce I^2R losses before sending it down a transmission line is a similar idea.. That would be a marginal and oversimplified analogy, but is at least somewhat descriptive of what is happening, and you can still apply the garden hose analogy for pressure and flow volume and it still makes sense here...
If you goto the fab rats channel a year or so ago he did some plastic welding with an actual plastic welder and its definitely a bit different than the hot stapler you guys talked about here with the el cheapo vevor welder.
Also ac doesn't require a power loss while switching to it to a DCcurrent your machine is AC at the wall... AC will always getting you more duty cycle to on a combo machine
I feel like I see a Klutch welder floating around in the shop from time to time. I'd be curious to see your thoughts on it since I'm relatively certain that it and the Weldmark both come from Hugong along with some Crossfire, one Praxair model that might be discontinued, and certain Metal Man machines. They seem to make decent stuff but I haven't seen too much of their AC tig in action. I actually purchased a Crossfire welder that got damaged in transit and then lost and returns and customs back to Canada. Of course you have the CK Worldwide which is pretty okay Jasic with a different plug for the pedal. Of course! Razorweld is another supplier of Jasic machines based somewhere in the Northwest with their parent company in Australia. Mr. Tig also had a self-branded Jasic. Haven't really been able to find a lot of information with AHP, Everlast, or Primeweld. I did notice if you do a street view on Google maps you could see AHP machines at the Everlast warehouse. Most of the welders for the states have to incorporate either dual voltage and then the plug modification with whichever weird pedal they select to pair with it. It seems that ever less are substantially customized and may even be made by multiple manufacturers depending on model. You can certainly see relatives of these machines, but there's some interesting variations especially on their higher end lines. I've also been a bit curious about Eastwood and their tig welders origination. They import so much stuff though that it's hard to work through their catalog. I think China probably makes pretty decent big voltage machines but it seems a lot of the big customers are more robotics and pipe and construction so manual welding is kind of niche. There is a video on CZcams from Argentina comparing the Jasic to Hugong by an actual welder. Both seem to be reasonably solid. Jasic's new gen seems pretty cool. It is kind of cool to see a co-op kind of pool together to try and bring some machines in in a way that's not super feasible for most businesses on their own. I don't know why but I think if you're buying decent quality machines to distribute to your customers then you don't need to do astounding amounts of customization to it and should use the branding to kind of help build a reputation kind of like how Australia does with Jasic while still having their branding, or in Russia or the UK. They just straight up have the normal orange box with the normal branding. To each their own though. Everlast has been kind of cool in pushing niche to market on some of their machines, most of which just don't even catch on. One that I got super fixated on was the AC/DC mixtig, which sounds like you should be able to do some pretty heavy work with beyond the numbers of the machine. It's an interesting time, that's for sure.
I've been searching forever to find a decent ac/dc tig welder I would be able to able to tig aluminum in the field. And I keep coming back to the power tig 210ext because of the price point and the features it has available on the machine. I would ultimately love to have a miller dynasty 210 cause that was the machine l learned to tig aluminum on and I got spoiled.
Great overview. The elevator music is killing your voice. Not an improvement since the info you're giving is very useful. I use a simple Zinser 50-145A stickwelder with Cumulo rutile electrodes. Never lets me down.
I would love to talk to you. A am a trade student under a small institution, however I believe I can provide an insight on miller machines (I don’t love all of them) which are an industry standard. And I also have some questions for you in terms of small personal projects, I am a dropout like you, I don’t understand the effect of heat on geometry. The internship I am abt to go to knows how to offset heat in a scientific way, this is for heavy equipment attachment’s from 1/2” to 3” plate, but I don’t know how to make a project and make it predictable if I wanted to make a part that could fit predefined constraints. Plz contact me
I have the Everlast 161 sth but the TIG torch it comes with is pretty crap does anyone know what’s a good torch replacement considering it’s a 25 dinse and not a 35 dinse. It seems that most lightweight torches on the market are typically 35 dinse size connector. please let me know
You should review a Miller 350P. Pulse mig 1/4”-1”steel, .045 solid, trimix. Forget bacon frying, when it’s dialed in it sounds like a herd of pissed off bubble bees. And get a fresh pair of Tillman 650s cause she’s HOT!
This sounds intense and IM IN! Now, just to get my hands on that machine..... 045 wire is no joke! sounds like something Curtis at Cutting Edge Engineering would use!
We use Miller XMT 350 MPa machines with suitcase wire feeders, I think 8rc feeders and we can run .052 wire. Shit is wild. My go to is .045 71t wire dual shield, unless the weld schedule says otherwise, cause you know, the navy pays for unlimited gas. Just thought I'd share a story. But yes the angry bees is for real when the steel is thick.
@@LiftArcStudiosmaybe that is overall sales and not all welders? I know I used the link to by machine skates for a mill and lathe. Other people might have bought snow cone machines. Vevor sells all kinds of stuff.
It's monopoly money. Always has been. The national debt is a scam, used to create fear and keep the masses in a prison of continuous state of panic with no get out of jail free card. The elite, literally the "they" in the They Live movie, own pretty much everyhting. In reality trillion is not even a real number, it's a tool they use to scare people and to keep them at odds through their right left paradigm political scam.
Hmm normally CZcams is pretty good at making sure the captions are available when the video is released. It's possible they're still processing them, let me look into that and see what I can do on my end! I normally watch stuff with CC too, sorry they're not an option right now! - Walker
Love the channel but the camera work is killing me. Too much zooming, not enough stabilization and mic everybody up please. Given you have a dedicated camera guy…well he should know better. Get a couple cheap cameras on tripods, and get the b roll separately. Please I beg you. I can’t be the only one noticing.
Glad your machine is still holding up! Love the channel!
Thank you all! We're big fans of Eastwood here at the shop! -Tay
I can tell you Everlast warranty is pretty good. Mine died at 4 years and sent it to them to fix. It took about a month and came back clean and working like new. But you do pay your own shipping
You’re very lucky. They’ve had a bad rep in warranty service. I hope they’ve gotten better.
@@melgross it helps that it is a hobby not a business. If it was a business and it took a month it would be a whole different story.
I’ve got three Everlast machines, and have had to go through customer service a few times. One mistake was my own, the others were easy fixes. Few companies can hold a candle to Everlast when it comes to customer service. Miller is okay, but their warranty isn’t as good, and boy will you pay dearly once your machine goes out of warranty.
@@ThinkFab I’m happy to,hear that because their service used to be the worst. Getting warrantee service was almost impossible.
I have an ESAB Rebel 205. It’s great. I had the 215, but gave it away when I got this one. Very smooth arc. Does AC tig. Yep prices have sure gone up. My 215 kit, with foot pedal and aluminum spool gun was $2200. Now, it’s $3,100. My 205 kit, no aluminum gun because I tig aluminum and can use the aluminum spool gun with this one if I want to mig it, was $3,200. Now, it’s between $4,200 and $5,000 depending on where you buy it. Crazy!
First time watcher. My career was TV news, so I have some pretty strong opinions on the matter of video communication. Don't change a thing. Humility and truth (you have them on your side) will always WIN in life and CZcams. I have an Everlast 210 EXT -- my first ever welder -- and I love it. Mark Yugo is the only guy to talk to at Everlast. He also is a great communicator, like you.
Great overview. I'm learning TIG on an Eastwood TIG 200 right now, ran my first aluminum bead last night!
congratulations!!! howd it go? I loved that welder, super machine to learn on
@@LiftArcStudios Finally got the hang of aluminum today, so satisfying to see a straight consistent bead! Love you guys' videos, they're useful and a lot of fun.
With regard to the "pro set" on the Everlast, and on all machines for that matter: It's a very simple formula that a MIG welder works with, There are two adjustments on the machine, voltage and wire feed speed. The remaining physical ingredients are gas and the actual wire used. This is to say, that in a true experimental setting, If you took the exact same wire and the exact same gas and ran them with the exact same voltage and exact same wire feed speed through two different machines, which are set to the exact same settings, you should get the exact same result for any particular weld.
If you're not getting the same results on two different machines when you do the same type of weld, then there is an obvious difference between the two machines. The difference isn't going to be complicated to figure out. First off, are the values on the chart of the machine or the chart you looked up online the same on the "bad" machine as the values on the machine that works better for you? If they aren't, then the values of the better-working machine are probably better for you to use.
If the displayed/charted values are identical and one machine is working better than the other, then the likely cause is that the output values are wrong on one of the machines. The wrong amount of voltage or wire feed is being output by the inferior machine. The output values don't match the displayed values on that machine.
The "bad" welding machine is putting out too many or too few feet per minute of wire, or the delivered voltage is not accurate to what's needed. When you "get to know a machine" you're often just getting to know that a certain machine "runs slow wire" and you need to set for a higher speed than you thought, or another machine "runs hot" and you need to set the voltage a bit lower than is indicated on the dial as far as the charts would tell you.
In the end, the difference between a modern higher end machines and cheaper machines may just come down to how accurately and evenly they each feed wire and throw voltage and display it to the user within their market segment of similar machines.
Dude, I have watched most of your videos, and this one was amazing. Great information and you really broke it down to a level where someone who is new can understand it. You guys should consider a learn to weld series for MIG and TIG, because the way you convey information is super easy to understand.
DIdn't know, that I would enjoy a due showing off his toys so much for over an hour, but here we are. Great comprehensive tour through the range ao welders.
At 71 and having never welded before, I sure have an hankering to try this out. So thanks for more overview.
I have a Everlast 255EXT and a Miller Dynasty 210. I use the Everlast the most and compared them welding aluminum and can not see any difference. the pulse on the Dynasty seems more crisp but other than that same. As far as what you said about aluminum needing less power that is the opposite. You have electrode positive and electrode negative. The negative is the heat and the positive is the cleaning action. this is where the balance control comes in.
I can't say anything bad about Everlast. I bought the 210 ext. Sold it and upgraded to a dynasty. Bought the 50 p plasma. Had a issue with the air not shutting off. Everlast sent me another unit free of charge. With exchange of my unit. Did not loose any down time. Convinced my dad to by the 255 tig with cooler. He is a old time Welder. He can not believe the power that comes from the small Everlast package. I use my 150 max star in the field as a ship Welder. For big Jobs I use my Miller 350 vs with the 12 suit case Welder. You save alot of money running using 44 lb spools. Love Everlast. There is a difference when you need to roll your equipment in the dirt. I still use the plasma cutter. Have not had an issue in years.
My Dad saved and had rebuilt for me his Miller 185. Similar sized machine, slimmer profile mig machine. It is a beast
Well done!! I really like my 210EXT, but truly appreciate your humility and honesty. Great video!
i switched to everlast. no regrets.
You definitely went through the pros and cons of your experience with your welders. Kudos!
Thanks Tay, It is good to see a REAL side by side comparison and Honest Critique of all Different Welders from different Manufacturers and Different era's. Shout out From a Fabricator in Australia, My Tig Welder at Work is a "TokenTools" 315 ACDC, with Water cooler, 415 volt, which looks nearly Identical to the Everlast but it is Red instead of Green. The face plates are basically Identical, made in the Factory Next door to the Everlast, (I've been told by the TokenTools owner) with Toshiba Mosfets, and other Quality Electronics. I have welded everything from 0.045" Alluminium plate, to 5/8" thick Bisaloy 400 Plate with it, It has the "Grunt".
I also have the Miller 212 Autoset. Bought it new about 6 years ago. It is a tank. Has taken everything I have thrown at it. I just love it and can't see ever getting rid of it! It is beautifully simple and reliable and that is priceless.
I’m sure the barley pops before unboxing could have had an influence in your colorful review originally. Humble pie is bitter but right to eat when you’re not up to snuff on a given subject.
Touché
Fun fact for ya: that little Miller 140STR was made by FRONIUS. You’ll notice is says “made in Austria” on it. Good little machine, you should put it to work!
A few years ago I won $1000 bucks from an Eastwood sweepstakes and bought the AC/DC Digital Tig 200 from them. It only cost me 100 plus tax. It's a friggin awesome welder. I beat the living crap out of it until the torch is about to melt. I've never payed attention to the duty cycle and it keeps on ticking. If it crapped out I wouldn't hesitate to get another one at full price.
How's it going nowadays? Looking at Eastwood tig 200 or everlast 255ext with water cooler package for a few hundred more...
@@mustangdemon87 literally just got done using it on some aluminum less than 5 minutes ago. Most of the digital tigs are about the same but I do wish I had a cooler. If it's only a couple hundred more I'd have to get the Everlast with a cooler.
Really nerdy & technical! Not sure why I enjoyed watching a video that is so, so, so far beyond my non-existent knowledge or skill on the subject matter, but I did.
Very helpful. I'm still sitting on the fence before I buy
I am 99% sure that the weldmark MP200 is a HF Titanium unlimited 200 multiprocess in a different wrapper. Your review of that welder mirrors my experience with the titanium. I have run my titanium as production welder for years and it's still runs awesome. No shame here on running a HF welder and project farm showed just how good the titanium welders are.
Thanks for doing this I’m thinking of purchasing a Eastwood now I’m new to Tig and I think the Eastwood fits into what I’m doing
I watched that whole video. I need a cookie. I'm impressed that you dug deep and shared.
"Transformer" machines use a variable transformer to simply take the high voltage, low amperage AC from the wall and turn it into low voltage, high amperage AC. There are two problems here: First, the frequency and waveforms are the same as whatever was fed into the machine to begin with (usually 50/60hz sine). Second, such a large transformation at low frequencies requires a very large transformer... You need a giant iron core so the flux doesn't saturate too quickly, and you need a lot of loops of wire-- and it can't be very thin wire either because the amperage on the output is so high. The result is a very large, heavy, and inefficient machine.
"Inverter" machines still use transformers, but they're much smaller, and they're decoupled from direct output. These machines take mains AC in from the wall, rectify it into DC, then use a digitally-controlled inverter to synthesize a super high frequency AC waveform which is then converted to low-voltage, high-current via a transformer. This transformer can be _much_ smaller than a "transformer machine's" transformer because of the ultra high frequency AC we're working with at this point. The higher the frequency, the quicker the magnetic field is changing directions. The more often that happens, the less of a problem flux saturation is. The less of a problem flux saturation is, the smaller you can make the core. From there, it is re-rectified back into DC and then either used directly (DC MIG/TIG) or converted back into AC using another inverter circuit (AC MIG/TIG) that is capable of synthesizing all of our wacky waveforms (square wave, triangle wave, etc. oscillating at frequencies that we can also control). All of this is possible because we're using digitally-controlled inverters to synthesize our own waveforms to do whatever is best for the task at hand, rather than just trying to directly use whatever the utility company provides (50/60hz sine) at the wall. Waveforms and frequencies for stepping up/down voltage and amperage aren't the best waveforms and frequencies for the _output_ side of AC welding and so on and so forth. With inverter-style machines, we control all of the variables.
To add to info - your idea about AC vs DC traveling over distance is correct [ but has little to do with welding ] ;)
What AC is for with Aluminum is the " CLEANING affect of the change in direction of the voltage - up to electrode = cleans & down to base metal for melting .
Then balance is how much - in what direction suits your project .
At least as I understand it ;)
1st welding class in 1969 , now my 1st inverter welder a Everlast MTS Lightning 225 - still getting use to all the extra adjustments coming from transformer welders ----- I bought at auction a Miller high frequency - add on box back in the mid-late 80s , do not remember the model # .
Overall I like the video , thanks
You are 100% correct on duty cycle
30% = 3 minutes on and 7 minutes off
Yay! i finally got it right!
In addition to my selection of Millers and Lincolns and 45 years of experience I would rate my Everlasts right up with my comparable Millers. My Everlast 140 is comparable to the Maxstar and my 185 AC/DC with a comparable Dynasty with Hz and pulse.I am absolutely amazed by my $350 250 amp Toolium. On mig and flux core it will put out all 250 amps. Single pass 3/8". Aluminum settings for either the graphene liner or a spool gun. I would need a water cooled torch to even try to push it.
I have to replace a stolen Miller 220 AC/DC and with the sucky economy, I don't think I can skip enough meals to pay for another of the same, so your vid is a big help...thanks!
That said, I no longer have as much of a demand for aluminum welding and thinking to go MIG only. Your love for your Miller 212 makes me want to go that direction, but I'm wondering if the new inverter technology runs as smoothly as the old windings/coil system...? (thinking you may have looked into it since you made this vid).
New subscriber, good stuff.
Great to see a new video today Tay. Tay this is just a very helpful and definitely useful video explaining this. Thanks so much sir. It means a lot. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friends. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Forge Lit. Keep Making. God Bless
Important Note at 21:54 : The 160i and 161STH have a "similar" feature set, but NOT the same. with the160i you lose pulse, and manual preflow adjustment. if either of those are important to you, spend the extra $70.
Great video I was at Eastwood 2 days ago (the headquarters is 15 mins from me)… and I ask point blank about self repair and board availability and they told me they have the and will sell them to me if I want to fix it my self … repair is important to me I figured something is going to break at some point. Ans it’s convenient for me to be 15 away from them.
I agree with the other comments on a learn to weld series, that would be awesome from you guys
I'm wanting to get a TIG rig. I like the Typhoon 230 everlast. It's more advanced than myself having never tigged but I understand what the features are for the most part as I watch a video on them. It was really interesting about the wave forms & how the arc reacts heat wise. I'm looking at patching up dirty aluminum handrails. It's hard to spend that kind of money but buy once, cry once.
Going way back in time 30+ years ago Esab had a 130 and a 150 'Caddy' DC Tig welder very similar to your baby Miller in function. So they go back another decade and yes I am OLD 🤣
Love the simplicity 😎
Millers are assembled in Wisconsin with Chinese parts...
I can tell for a Fact I hit duty cycle on millers 211-212 and 255 always if it ain't 300 plus amps I can't weld with them longer than 20-30 minutes in a row with out hitting duty cycle and it chugging along I'll lay perfect breeds for a bout 2-3 feet on heavy gauge stuff then on the next set somewhere it will chug a long barely arc
Don't believe the MM212 came out until after the MM210 (I bought my 210 new in 2005)
I know little about welding, but I know a lot more about "entertainment". Your enthusiasm and honesty mixed with your wonderful sense of humour, (yes, i'm English, lol ) , entertains me, I've watched all your vids, (including the big one), and I've been spiffingly delighted, even if, sometimes, I didn't know what you were talking about. Keep up the good work old chap! 🙂
When it, (the vids), comes to me I'm usually having a nightcap whisky. ;-)
DC is more efficient because it doesn’t chop the electromagnetic field. A transformer can be used for AC making it easier to transmit have high voltage. DC until recently was difficult to get very high voltages. Now that is much easier with solid state circuits. Modern grid transmission is tending to DC. If you want the experience the chop in AC electromagnetic field stand near a grid tower in the rain!
Yea that’s correct on duty cycle my good friend 👍🏾
Millermatic 350P is the way to go for mig. Pulse mig is miles ahead of traditional mig.
Welding voltage on ac is less than 110v..so input voltage is irrelevant. On DC it must be converted from ac to DC first lossing at least half the voltage.
"inductance" is a property of coils of wire (ie, transformer windings), and the more windings, the more inductance, which is why transformer machines are so smooth. Inverters operate on the principal of digitally switching the power at very high frequencies so that transformers can be very small and light and the machine is overall more efficient, but they have basically no inductance because of the tiny coils inside.. When you turn up the "inductance" setting, it is just digitally altering the waveform to emulate the effect of inductance, but IMO, they still don't quite get as smooth as a old transformer welder...
Also, your garden hose analogy makes no sense whatsoever... AC's big benefit is that you can easily put it through a transformer to make the voltages higher and currents lower so that tranamission losses which are proportional to the square of the current, are significantly lower. I don't know how you would try to equate this effect to a garden hose analogy, but it is definitely not what you described...
Great explanation of inductance, thank you! makes a lot of sense
My hose analogy was mainly in reference to DC, and im not the first person to over simplify electrics with this metaphor. i even stated that its a poor analogy and over simplified... calm down. a lot of our viewers dont have an electrical engineering degree and most welders just know what noise its supposed to make when working properly and not how inductance works inside the machine. I try to have fun and simplify things when possible
@@LiftArcStudiosSimplification is great when it is accurate but in this case it's not even "oversimplified", it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever, even for DC (there is a reasonable analogy for voltage=pressure and current=flow volume and the size of your garden hose affecting these for DC, but your description didn't bear any resemblance to this and simple didn't make any sense at all)
The closest you might come is transporting coal (DC) vs oil (AC). Coal is a solid and can only to be transported via truck/train/ship which is expensive whereas oil can be pumped down a pipeline which is a lot cheaper. Oil can come in many grades and can be very thick and inefficient to pump, but by heating heavy oil to thin it, it makes it easier to flow through the pipeline and converting AC to very high voltages to reduce I^2R losses before sending it down a transmission line is a similar idea.. That would be a marginal and oversimplified analogy, but is at least somewhat descriptive of what is happening, and you can still apply the garden hose analogy for pressure and flow volume and it still makes sense here...
If you goto the fab rats channel a year or so ago he did some plastic welding with an actual plastic welder and its definitely a bit different than the hot stapler you guys talked about here with the el cheapo vevor welder.
Also ac doesn't require a power loss while switching to it to a DCcurrent your machine is AC at the wall... AC will always getting you more duty cycle to on a combo machine
I feel like I see a Klutch welder floating around in the shop from time to time. I'd be curious to see your thoughts on it since I'm relatively certain that it and the Weldmark both come from Hugong along with some Crossfire, one Praxair model that might be discontinued, and certain Metal Man machines. They seem to make decent stuff but I haven't seen too much of their AC tig in action. I actually purchased a Crossfire welder that got damaged in transit and then lost and returns and customs back to Canada. Of course you have the CK Worldwide which is pretty okay Jasic with a different plug for the pedal. Of course! Razorweld is another supplier of Jasic machines based somewhere in the Northwest with their parent company in Australia. Mr. Tig also had a self-branded Jasic. Haven't really been able to find a lot of information with AHP, Everlast, or Primeweld. I did notice if you do a street view on Google maps you could see AHP machines at the Everlast warehouse. Most of the welders for the states have to incorporate either dual voltage and then the plug modification with whichever weird pedal they select to pair with it. It seems that ever less are substantially customized and may even be made by multiple manufacturers depending on model. You can certainly see relatives of these machines, but there's some interesting variations especially on their higher end lines. I've also been a bit curious about Eastwood and their tig welders origination. They import so much stuff though that it's hard to work through their catalog. I think China probably makes pretty decent big voltage machines but it seems a lot of the big customers are more robotics and pipe and construction so manual welding is kind of niche. There is a video on CZcams from Argentina comparing the Jasic to Hugong by an actual welder. Both seem to be reasonably solid. Jasic's new gen seems pretty cool. It is kind of cool to see a co-op kind of pool together to try and bring some machines in in a way that's not super feasible for most businesses on their own. I don't know why but I think if you're buying decent quality machines to distribute to your customers then you don't need to do astounding amounts of customization to it and should use the branding to kind of help build a reputation kind of like how Australia does with Jasic while still having their branding, or in Russia or the UK. They just straight up have the normal orange box with the normal branding. To each their own though. Everlast has been kind of cool in pushing niche to market on some of their machines, most of which just don't even catch on. One that I got super fixated on was the AC/DC mixtig, which sounds like you should be able to do some pretty heavy work with beyond the numbers of the machine. It's an interesting time, that's for sure.
Many of the boards inside the big brand welders are made in Taiwan or China, some are used in cheap chinese welders.
A lot of IGBT welder machines here, Indeed you are kind of nerd of welding (a hero welder) in a good sense.
Good rundown. Did Walker take a day off? Tripod broke? Drink before work?
Too much coffee that day... whoopsie! - Walker
sorry too much background music.
My first welder is the Miller 215 I wouldn’t buy anything cheaper. I would like to get the Miller 255
I've been searching forever to find a decent ac/dc tig welder I would be able to able to tig aluminum in the field. And I keep coming back to the power tig 210ext because of the price point and the features it has available on the machine. I would ultimately love to have a miller dynasty 210 cause that was the machine l learned to tig aluminum on and I got spoiled.
Just bought an Everlast PowerTig 200DV and never welded TiG before can you give me any tips of consumables and machine? Thanks great video.
Thank you for all the information
Loving the content bro!
A mouth full Thank You .
I’ve noticed a Lincoln mp210 hanging around….. but not seeing it here?
Eastwood store alsip Il. Everything in the store is good 😎
Can low part of pulse need to be completely off ?
Or can it be adjusted?
Let’s say 60 amps pulse on and any where between 40&10 amps pulse off ?
Bummer you didn't mention arc start on all the tig machines
Did you ever used a EWM TIG Welding Machine?
Is the Hobart Ironman 240 relatively the same as the millermatic 212?
Great overview. The elevator music is killing your voice. Not an improvement since the info you're giving is very useful. I use a simple Zinser 50-145A stickwelder with Cumulo rutile electrodes. Never lets me down.
There is no MMAW welding process stick is called SMAW
It's a euro thing I believe.
I would love to talk to you. A am a trade student under a small institution, however I believe I can provide an insight on miller machines (I don’t love all of them) which are an industry standard. And I also have some questions for you in terms of small personal projects, I am a dropout like you, I don’t understand the effect of heat on geometry. The internship I am abt to go to knows how to offset heat in a scientific way, this is for heavy equipment attachment’s from 1/2” to 3” plate, but I don’t know how to make a project and make it predictable if I wanted to make a part that could fit predefined constraints. Plz contact me
This is a safe space, you can tell us you barely use the everlast mig 😂
Lets hook up a multimeter to the little cheap welders.
Definitely thought about that!
Amp meter.
I have the Everlast 161 sth but the TIG torch it comes with is pretty crap does anyone know what’s a good torch replacement considering it’s a 25 dinse and not a 35 dinse. It seems that most lightweight torches on the market are typically 35 dinse size connector. please let me know
Would you like review Arccaptain machine？
Sure! You wore me down, send over your best machine, we'll take it for a spin!
i have that same miller 212 machine but you cant read anything because its all rubbed off what should the wire feed pressure knob be set at
The black turn dial that locks the roller down is there a chart for the different wire thickness
Where’s your multimatic 220?
That one belongs to Jake from Freeland Welding, he rents space from me. I just wanted to review the ones I a really own
You should review a Miller 350P. Pulse mig 1/4”-1”steel, .045 solid, trimix. Forget bacon frying, when it’s dialed in it sounds like a herd of pissed off bubble bees. And get a fresh pair of Tillman 650s cause she’s HOT!
This sounds intense and IM IN! Now, just to get my hands on that machine..... 045 wire is no joke! sounds like something Curtis at Cutting Edge Engineering would use!
We use Miller XMT 350 MPa machines with suitcase wire feeders, I think 8rc feeders and we can run .052 wire. Shit is wild. My go to is .045 71t wire dual shield, unless the weld schedule says otherwise, cause you know, the navy pays for unlimited gas. Just thought I'd share a story. But yes the angry bees is for real when the steel is thick.
I like your German tattoo 😄
@everlast send them a new typhoon so we can see how he likes it!!!
Eu queria poder comprar um everlast 252 ou um everlast 275. Mas não tenho dinheiro, e também não enviam para o Brasil.
1:01:50 how many caught that ;) lol
Bro wearing the Everlast green for this video lol
Where's the transformer's?
Who would have thought you could put 30k in sales for that thing.
I know right? We didn’t really get explicit permission to share that # so don’t tell Vevor we said anything 🤫
@@LiftArcStudiosmaybe that is overall sales and not all welders? I know I used the link to by machine skates for a mill and lathe. Other people might have bought snow cone machines. Vevor sells all kinds of stuff.
No HTP equipment........................................
Our government is really trashing our dollar. Need a gold standard in the US. Not no global bs
It's monopoly money. Always has been. The national debt is a scam, used to create fear and keep the masses in a prison of continuous state of panic with no get out of jail free card. The elite, literally the "they" in the They Live movie, own pretty much everyhting. In reality trillion is not even a real number, it's a tool they use to scare people and to keep them at odds through their right left paradigm political scam.
get a gimbal camera guy not good
the music taking out your voice is quite annoying hard to hear what you say
Those are some average machine ... nothing spectacular
Or women with big 😉
Kind of piss no close caption with video
Hmm normally CZcams is pretty good at making sure the captions are available when the video is released. It's possible they're still processing them, let me look into that and see what I can do on my end! I normally watch stuff with CC too, sorry they're not an option right now! - Walker
Seems like closed captions are now on the video.
Love the channel but the camera work is killing me. Too much zooming, not enough stabilization and mic everybody up please. Given you have a dedicated camera guy…well he should know better. Get a couple cheap cameras on tripods, and get the b roll separately. Please I beg you. I can’t be the only one noticing.
Ditto
Review CanaWeld................