@Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk, would you consider a bi-turbo V8 Toyota Diesel? Getting your better mileage as well as cheaper price at the pumps? And I’m sure would be quiet as well. Had ‘84 (Pre-Tacoma) extra cab 4x4, 5 speed with factory non-turbo diesel. It was a nice truck, but, extended family came into picture, so sold to someone who needed the 4c4 capabilities worse than I.
@@Pickuptrucktalk, website is: www.Dieseltoys.com I look at it this way, if I know for a fact I’m keeping the Tundra, even though it’s aftermarket but still a Toyota power plant, and installed like it was done by the factory. If, I had the extra $$$$ to install, hands down I would definitely do it...!!
@@Pickuptrucktalk, well, if you were to keep the Tundra for a longer period of time, maybe think long term, like investing in stocks or dividends, or like Warren Buffett, as he has held on his investments including his Berkshire Hathaway...and other blue chip stocks...
Good review and as a 16 Tundra owner with zero issues, the plus and minuses were fair and for a change the comments were civil. As I have said many times, its your money and if you want reliability and know the tradeoffs, you should not have to defend your purchase. Likewise, I don't criticize others who want to spend it on other brands. Be nice to those Tundra owners and they may stop and pick you up if you've broken down.
Or to get in the bed of the truck you can do like we do on the farm.....step up on the rear wheel and hop in. These “Not so good” things you mention are not that big of a deal. I’ll take reliably over all that fancy shit. I love my base model tundra!!!! 👍😬
Just traded in my 07 Tundra for a 2020. Wanted to wait for the 2022 but couldn’t wait that long. Overall I’m pretty impressed with this truck. Personally I think it’s plenty “Techy” but to each his own. I’m impressed with the Toyota Safety Sense and how confident the truck pulls my boat. I looked at other brands and yes a little fancier inside and more technology which neither is very important to me. And so many different horror stories I’ve heard from domestic truck owners dealing with reliability. Mileage isn’t great of course but pulling my boat I got just over 14 mpg? 19’ boat maybe 3-4,000 lbs. Anyway I don’t understand why so many people bad mouth the Tundra especially if your looking for a long term truck like I do? BTW the dealership where I bought this truck told me in the last week they’ve serviced (oil change) 2 Tundras (second generation) one with over 500 k miles the other over 600 k miles. My 07 had 250 k hard miles. Besides regular maintenance 1 starter. That’s it...
This is great watching this video 2 years later and reading the comments while looking to purchase a used 2020 in 2022 (almost 2023). Sorting out all of the comments and seeing now what the 2022 Tundra introduced. weighing all the comments and being able to purchase the new 2023 Tundra or any F150 or Ram Laramie I would still take a 2020 Tundra. The fancy iPad dashboards are boring after 5 minutes and are just more things to break. The rides are so smooth it loses the appeal of owning a truck. there's no more response from the road. I could literally being riding off the shoulder and not notice it. Two to three years later this model Tundra is a more comfortable cab, a more reliable drivetrain and has the features that matter to a person who wants a touch for a truck and not a glorified soccer mom SUV. Yeah, mileage sucks but I won't have to spend money on repairs and downtime without a truck - that would end up costing more than the repairs. As Im picking up my used 2020 with 33,000 miles on it for $45,000 my neighbor is ordering his 2023 for $65,000. Even though I could afford it I would not trust the new drivetrain for a few years til they have worked out the kinks - and then I will at least still have a vehicle with resale value should I decide to go that route.
Great review. I wish Toyota would offer a Limited or SR5 in their Press Fleet. I saw somewhere that only about 3% of Tundras are the Pro model, but it seems like 90% of reviews are of the Pro.
Jeffrey Williams I’ll have to go through a dealer for that. They just don’t put those kinds of models in the press fleet. I’ll just have to wait for COVID to pass. Got some young kids at home abs one with respiratory issues, so I’m staying on the side of caution.
I love my 2018 Tundra CrewMax Limited 4x4, no problems, I sometimes pull a trailer and tractor kicking 7,490# get 8mpg with such load. You can go to SparksParts and get a kit to install that handle on the left windshield pillar and won’t break your wallet. I don’t get paid for my comment. And if fuel mileage was a concern... I’d be driving a Prius.
Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk LMBO Same here, I got a friend of mine loves his, quite frankly if I was going to drive anything that low and tight quarters it’d have to be a C8 Corvette.
you forgot to mention that it has no storage behind the driver and passenger seats...somehow toyota always does those little thing, not a deal breaker, but it just bugs me. lol. Thank you for your great video!
Trucks shouldnt be about fancy gadgets and unrealistic fuel economy numbers.. Trucks should be used as a tool to safely and reliably get you to where you want to go and do what you need it to do everytime without issue... Buying a tundra is not just buying a truck .. it's buying piece of mind and conference that you can rely on it for many many years to come 👍
@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS Why can't you just respect that different people have different needs and priorities, rather than get on a channel and start trashing everyone with foul language? I respect your decision to buy the vehicle you own. I think it too has pluses (features) and minuses (reliability), but its your money and I get that. Everytime you get on this channel its usually with some sort of foul mouthed comment. Time to grow up and get a life. Go enjoy your truck and leave the adults alone.
My biggest complaint is that the tundras do not have an electric locking rear differential. If you are worried about fuel consumption... you shouldn't be buying a truck.
Good info on the ride quality of the trd pro. I wouldn’t have even considered that truck as I don’t go off road. But if it has a nicer ride than the other trim levels, it’s now on the list.
Yeah, I think that's something overlooked. I owned a SR5 for a few years and the ride quality is better on the off-road trims due to the suspension differences. More truck squat with a TRD over a SR5, but a better ride quality.
As a first time tundra owner, having this exact truck coming from an f150, I can add to the convo. The tundra has minimum storage space compared to my 2009 f150. The cup holders are to small to hold normal size Gatorade’s or larger sized drinks. No cooled seats. No step ladder/step or way to get into the bed easily without jumping up. The steering wheel volume and next track buttons should be reversed. Skip next track button should be where the volume buttons are, left and right and the volume buttons should be up and down. Instead it’s opposite. Stock sound system does not go loud enough. No grab handle on drivers side door. CarPlay isn’t wireless. Back seat floor isn’t flat and has no under seat storage. The paint is extremely thin. Already have a few scratches. My ac unit will not completely shut off the vents that I turn off and continues to blow small amounts of air even though I turned that particular vent off or switched to a different vent. Back up camera is garbage quality. Sometimes the screen lags when connected to CarPlay when making calls or freezes. Cruise control default mode is always set on adaptive mode and you have to hold the button down to switch it to normal old school cruise control every single time you use it. I hate the auto windows. . Giant key fab. Minor complaints, but the truck would be even better with these improvements. Bought it for the reliability and looks mainly.
I've got a 2020 Pro myself. The stereo was crap. I had to upgrade and so did everyone else who likes a quality system in their vehicles. I mean it's a farce that they say their system is enhanced. It's a joke. I went with OEM Audio Plus for the upgrade. About 1,600 but it was worth it
lawrence fitzgerald you would expect that and a grab handle on a $55k truck, but no sweers has to “perfect” the trucks by getting rid of the small details.
Got a 3.5 in lift running mud 35in tires , getting 13 mpg half city half highway. I gas up twice a week T.T not too bad with gas this cheap but can't imagine keeping this truck for long when gas at 3$
I had a 13 SR5. Reliable yes. Uncomfortable yup. Ate tires and brakes too. I miss it especially now with low gas prices but I look forward to my next truck... when I make that decision... lots of plastic in it unfortunately.
I agree, I just bought a 19 tundra, very happy with it but it rides rough no doubt and the interior seems very plasticky and dated. Its a heavy truck also, takes a heavy foot on the brake to stop and leans hard in turns, at 12k miles my ltx tires maybe have 30-40% tread left. I traded a ram 1500 in for it and I have to give it to ram, the 8 speed trans was leaps and bounds ahead of the 6 speed in the tundra.
I’ve noticed the better tires and better brakes ie expensive did keep her on the road better. I did 20k a year on back roads so my back was always hurting.
Two other things that still irks me about my 2016 TRD Pro are: (1) no auto power up front windows; and (2) the console is just a big hole. The console could use better storage organization.
Like you non-biased reviews. I’m planning on buying a new redesigned 2022 or later if my 07 will continue to hold up. Will listen to your view of the truck before I purchase. Hoping for an available V8 option and not a lot of techy stuff to go wrong. If I absolutely dislike the new redesign I will get a 2021 I guess. The build quality and reliability of my 07 Tundra has been impressive just don’t think I can get anything like that from the domestics. I can sacrifice 2-3 mpg for that.
SawHorse what are you on about? Maybe you should come up with a rating for 4x8 sheet carrying capacity or dirt bike storage ability and stop whining about whatever it is you think should be.
Agreed. WTF does that mean about how many sheets of plywood. That’s just a weight calculation. Not hard to figure out. Trucks are more than carrying plywood.
Plywood and rock come in 4x8 sheets. That bed is 5'6", so you would need to put the tailgate down and use straps but it's wide enough to lay between the wells.
The Tundra is a wonderful truck. It is on my short list. Personally I'm in the market for a new truck within the next year or so. I have looked and test drove a lot of different brands. The Tundra (acually any of the Tundra model's) has reliability like I want, crash rating unfortunately is a bit poor (I'm sure the next generation will fix this issue), and a locking rear differential would be appreciated. I don't think its unresonable as a consumer spending my hard earned money on a truck to expect a bit better fuel mileage from the Tundra. It's like they just don't care and stopped trying regarding that part. just my 2 cents but this is 2020 there no way that Toyota shouldn't be able to offer a different transmission like a 8 speed and a different rear end gearing to help with the mileage. Great truck I agree but come on Toyota. 430 rear end gears on a 1/2 ton crew cab. Maybe give us as consumer's a option package to purchase a model that will achieve something like maybe 22 combined mpg. I appreciate the reliability debate but Toyota has to have the technology to make this same truck with better fuel economy & without sacrificing there reliability. All truck models including the Toyota Tundra aren't cheap. It's a lot of money that we are spending on our trucks. Again I personally don't think it's too much to ask a manufacturer to offer a model that will achieve a bit better fuel economy at the same time as there continued reliability. I drive about 20,000 miles a year and the bit better fuel mileage would be appreciated.
Ever since the recession of 2008, Toyota has been out of the full size truck game. I would argue that a cash starved Nissan has put more effort into their full size truck than Toyota has. It's quite pathetic when you realize that Toyota has been the global sales leader for many years in recent history.
Tim I've got a 19 Mag gray TRd sport.... got about 4500.00 in modifications including the Pro's skid plate and the TRd pro CAi that a Pro model should come with from the factory. Not having a grab handle on the drivers side is just another way for Toyota to get us in the parts dept. to pay for what we shouldn't need to. And then add insult to injury by charging over 150.00 bucks for it when it should cost about 80.00.
Just respect the gas pedal like i was taught years ago. My '20 gets 17 back and forth to work. Thought I'd try ram in '16. First an ecodiesel 1500 (haha), then a Cummins 2500. Cummins was a good truck, but too many recalls, and it only averaged 17. For me, the tundra is my tool. I'm too old for all the " plastic gadget crap anyway"
@exalted one... Last I checked, cheap plastic has nothing to do with keeping the vehicle out of the shop! You could go Ram Rebel and get all the fancy plastic you want! Just be willing to spent lots of time in the shop!
Tim check out the company ESP. They make storage boxes that go under the back seat of the crew cab. Also Sparks Parts sells the grab handle for the driver side. Also there are bumper companies like body guard that make bumpers with the corner steps. I think the tundra is just right and gives you the ability to upgrade things if you are missing certain features that some people want. Toyota is now selling the trd pro suspension to anyone so you can put it on any trim level tundra.
I have a Tacoma and is great BUT towing our camper is a bit of a chore. The 4 litre V6 can do it but it works hard so I want the Tundra with a V8. Things I think Toyota should improve...those stupid tow hooks in the front...so idiotic. The other issue...no rear locker available as an option or standard on TRD OFF ROAD. As for the access to the bed...buy a step that goes into the hitch reciever...I got one for my Taco years ago at TSC. It works well. Having owned GM and FORD...I will gladly pay a bit more for gas and save a ton on repairs.
@@Pickuptrucktalk because of the short bed the tundra has, I've seen at stores tundra owners lower the back window to slide long item through the cabin such as 2x4 or sidding..pretty cool feature and option to have..Also the chance to open the entire cab on nice days to feel the breeze is awesome too
@@freddyo2k10 I’ve done that with 2x4s and it is ok if you like wood chips on your back seats. I mean it works. Sorry, I guess I should have mentioned it. Just don’t use it that much myself.
I love my 2020 Tundra Limited it's a solid truck. I am just sorry it's one of the last. I will be interested to see if the 2022 can live up to this generation's repratation.
I have a 15 XP. Love the ride and the 20inch wheels. My only hang up on the pro is the 18inch wheels. Do I just need to suck it up and buy it or build a SR5 with all the pro stuff
Man, that Army Green rocks!!!! That rumble from the V8 is pretty sweet. In my experience though, other than winter tires most Michelins are crappy. No usb for backseat riders for $54K huh
You mean crappy Michelins for trucks, right? Cause their sports tires are the best in the business hands down, and their all weather tires routinely are picked No.. 1 for rain/road handling...
I love my TACO! Tundra is just too big and too much on the gas for city person like myself. Taco does 90% what I need it to do as a residential redeveloper.
I'm getting a little tired if Tundras. I do pool service and construction. Cased tools and parts in the back seat, crappy stuff in the bed. I'm tempted to get a Taco 4door with the 6' bed. Is it kinda small for your biz?
@@sharkskin3448 I am not personally involved much in the construction trades mostly provide sales, finished product support and other small jobs, say if last minute the customer wanted swap range hood or they're not completely satisfied w/ their counter top I go change those for them.
In 2018 I bought a new TRD offroad limited doublecab. I love every thing about it but the salesman talked me into ordering a 2019 TRD Pro. I wanted all the accessories that my limited had but was told that most of them were not available on the pro even though they are available on the crewcab. I was told that they would try to get me what I wanted but couldn't promise. The only thing that I didn't want was the predator running boards, I wanted a different set. When the truck came in it had none of the accessories I wanted and it had the predator running boards so needless to say I didn't get the truck. For an extra 12,000 I would have had less accessories than I have now but would only gain a TRD exhaust and rims.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I was there when they ordered it so I know what they put down, it was toyota that refused to install the accessories that I wanted. I was disgusted with them for that but not enough to stop driving a toyota because they are very reliable and I love my truck.
I always had a ford, my grandfather's Grand Torino, to my Mustang 5.0 in college, to my Thunderbird after college, to my F150 after marriage (my passive-aggressive way of not getting a minivan when the kids started coming), then to a Honda Odyssey LX after one of the kids fell out of the truck when trying to exit the door. Then two decades of Hondas. Now, that the youngest kid is in high school, I wanted a truck, but instead of buying another F150, I bought a Toyota Tundra TRD Crewmax. It feel like a Ford. It vibrates when I start the engine. And it looks like a truck. As loyal as I've become to Honda because of its reliability, I couldn't buy the soy-boy Ridgeline. I may take the jump to Toyota. I'm planning my midlife crisis in a few years, so I may consider a Lexus because a corvette seems a bit... cliché.
Every Tundra review: They're terrible on gas..... Proceeds to start truck, rev the sh!t out of it, pedal to the metal accelerate, LOVE THE POWER, So much fun...... 🤔
Tim have you watch the Tundra Deconstructed video. These truck are truely built like 3/4 ton trucks. The guy on there were towing 14K lb+ off road and no frame bending for 100k miles.
I've never doubted it is an over built truck. I just worry about people really exceeding capacity over and over again. Lots of wear on those components.
Yeah apparently the rancher was loading 12 heads on a 24ft gooseneck.and still the front end held up at 100k no leaks etc... I think this is the best half ton truck you can buy still as of now. What's interesting is that it proves rigidity does not mean strength. You'll be less likely to take more road input with a fully boxed frame than an open c as the c channel will flex to increase the impulse stretching that force over time.
All off road trucks (non-HD) have lower tow/payload ratings...And the Power Wagon gets no better mpg...Toyota just needs a new 8-speed transmission to up the mpg a couple/three...And the Tundra has a bigger tank AND more payload than many other trucks (including Power Wagon)...360 camera--nitppicking....It's a truck, period. Buy WAY more reliable than the others!!!
Hi I am new to this channel I have a 2011 tundra rock warrior edition and I love it what a awesome truck. I have heard they are doing away with the V 8 motor. Not a good idea for Toyota
Actually Toyota is looking to do away with the V8 in the Land Cruiser (many have made mention of this), so the V8 may just go away in the Tundra as well (let's certainly hope not)...
I tried and tried to buy the one up from the base model tundra and the dealer would not sell me one because they liked to put lift kits on them and sell them for a big chunk of money. I was very unhappy about that! I ended up with a ram but it still irritates me that they would not let me buy the truck stock the way they come from the factory.
Good review but I decided to go with a Ram when I got a truck. The Ram rides better, gets better fuel mileage has better power with the hemi. I got a used truck and the tundras where 6-8k more for a 3 year old truck. I got a 2017 ram 1500 bighorn with 28k miles on it for 29k and it's been awesome. I know everyone says Toyota is so much better with reliability but I have an old 1995 ram and it's a great old truck and my brother has always been a Ram guy. He has a 05 Cummins with 385k miles on it and no issues and a 15 ram 1500 with a hemi and 180k miles without an issue. I'll take my chances especially since I saved 7k on the truck
@@Pickuptrucktalk I agree I think it's a lot to due with maintenance and not driving it like a race car everywhere. Plus I know of the hemi can issues so I change my oil every 4-5k miles regardless of the recommendation. All trucks have issues and problems but I have seen a lot people with hemis that have 200k on the engine. I personally probably will pay my truck off in about three years drive it until it hits 100k and upgrade it. I only put 8k on my vehicles per year so this is my plan. I will keep my old Ram forever because I don't know if it'll ever die its a great old truck but I do take care of my vehicles
Deciding between a new Tundra TRD Pro or used 2017-2018 Lexus LX 570 as a work vehicle. My 2019 BMW M5 only gets 12 mpg and my 2020 X7 is too nice for work. 😅
Do off-road packages ride smoother than factory? Is that the same for heavy duty trucks too? My test drive of the F250 (XLT) felt really bumpy compared to a tundra. Would a tremor suspension feel more half ton like or still get the bouncy ride from having an empty bed?
Yes, I think off-road suspensions rude smoother although they give up some towing with more bed swag than a stock truck. Tremor would feel more like half ton in my opinion.
Tim, I got 6 minutes in and had to check the date this was posted. Cough, cough. 2020 Nissan Titan is way more updated than that Tundra! BTW, how do like that Toyota heated steering wheel?
Think I’ve lost some respect for you Tim with your Nissan comment about styling! The Titan looks awesome and compared to a Pro4X that tundra has the features of something from 1980!!
Hi Tim, Wes here again. I know your aware of the unofficial rumors of the new Tundra coming out. So if they get a Tundra to get 450 horse + 30 miles per gallon. I also heard the towing capacity could be up to 15 to 18 thousand pounds which is crazy. Shouldn't they have 2 types of trucks available 1/2 ton and a 3/4 ton what's your thoughts on that.
Why do you think Toyota doesn't build HD trucks? They (HD trucks) are used harder and abused a little more, and their reliability rating would suffer...
I have a 2019 TRD pro blue blue I enjoy the truck the only little problems I’ve had is I’ve started to have paint chips on the doors starting at 2500 miles and now I have a tear in my backseat which Toyota was touting these seats as better than leather already fighting with the dealership about getting some of this stuff taken care of under my extended warranty package let you know how that goes coming up on three weeks and haven’t heard back yet that would be Andrew Toyota Milwaukee with
They should at least put Storage under that rear seat and a grab handle for the driver. Its ridiculous because the double cab versions have storage under the rear seat but not the crewmax.
I want to add this truck to my shopping list, especially the TRD Pro. I love the exterior look and standard safety systems. However the lack of a front bench option, the uneven rear floor, and the TRD Pro’s deep pit of ass-scorching, blackety-blackness interior keep it off my list.
Good question. Here is what I found: "Yes. Drivers in equipped Toyota models are able to switch between the dynamic radar cruise control system and a traditional cruise control system. To do so, push and hold the dynamic radar cruise control button on your Toyota steering wheel for about 2 seconds. Your multi-information display cruise control indicator light should change, and your cruise control system should switch. Once the engine is turned off, your vehicle will automatically default to the dynamic radar cruise control setting." Hope that helps.
@@Pickuptrucktalk You are right about the missing handle on the driver's side. At 6'3", I worry about whether I fit inside a car or truck not whether I can get up inside.
I wish there was an easier way to tell a crew cab from the double cab. I’ve been looking for a crewmax cab. And a lot of the time the sellers don’t know what they have and it can get tricky looking at photos trying to figure out what truck they have.
It’s actually pretty easy, the double cab has the handle on the side of the door as opposed to the crew max with the handle located on the face of the door
I've had a 2019 Ram 1500 since July and it is a middle of the road trim package. My truck is WAY more and better laid out than this truck. Bigger engine with more torque and HP and 20MPG, no lie. Ram has a bigger screen, better camera, updated everything, the most quiet and comfortable ride ever and I've owned new trucks since 1980. Ram has mated an 8 speed torque flight to their hemi since 2012 plus now they offer the hybrid option to the hemi. In everyway the Ram is a better truck and it is less $. My Ram 1500 4x4 has more options and comforts with a lower price tag than this truck. This TRD is not junk nor am I saying that. All new trucks are great regardless of who makes them. I'm saying that the Ram is better across the board than this truck at a better price. I've owned Rams since 1995 and they have been reliable and trouble free for me. Most of my friends own either GMCs of Fords and they all say that my Rams have been more reliable, and in my case that is true. Much different from the trucks I owned previously. If it ain't broke don't fix it
No doubt, the new Ram 1500 is at the top of the trucks right now. Reliability has always been their Achille's heel. Sounds like you have had good luck though.
While this truck definitely hits the mark on reliability, Toyota really missed the mark on off road capability. It's a TRD PRO that doesn't even come close to batting in the same league as it's Tacoma and even more so 4Runner counterparts. No rear locker, no true off road capable tire, and a tire way too small for even a factory 1/2 ton 4x4 performance package considering most manufactures are offering something in the realm of a 33' x 11'. I feel like Toyota could really hit the mark with this truck if they included a selectable E-locker in the rear axle, perhaps a helical in the IFS diff, and set of 33' off road tires. Ultimately what Toyota has built here is a truck you drive on a well traveled dirt road to a common camp site, not a truck you drive on a rough trail to a remote area with off shoots leading to camp sites with awesome views which 99.9% of the world's population will never see. They would be better off saving the consumer some money and making this package a rear wheel drive only option because realistically this truck couldn't tackle anything beyond a very mild trail.
The chief engineer is on record, on this channel saying the Tundra doesn't need a rear locker. He is controlled by bean-counters that think cheap plastic interior panels and Camry's are the "in thing". Toyota is lost. The Zupra wasn't a fluke, it's a real culture problem at big T.
alienation well don’t get me wrong, ATRAC and Toyota Crawl Control are excellent and have done some amazing things in my wife’s TRD 4Runner, sometimes you just need the rear locker to get through something. My advice, if you want a Tundra for real off use buy an SR5 4x4 and build your own.
I'd rather have a reliable gas guzzler than a unreliable fuel sipper. Having said that, I hope Toyota adds locking diff and improves crash test ratings which are horrible
There's really no excuse for the lack of features in the TRD pro Toyotas. Those tires are horrible for off road and Michelin is an expensive brand. They could probably get duratracs or ko2s on that truck for the same price and it would improve the truck's capability a lot! Toyota's rear locker excuse is getting old too. Everyone else has it! Right now, the TRD Pro is really barely only competing against a Z71 Chevy or Ford Fx4. Add the locker and legitimate tires, it would be a serious Trail Boss or Rebel competitor
At your height (I'm about the size height as you), you really shouldn't be calling out someone's height for looking in bed purposes...It's like a rich person calling out the rest of us for not owning a Mercedes-Benz 4x4 Squared G Wagon..
Although the F150 is a nice truck, there's something special about Toyota trucks. Owning one is like having a weight lifted off your chest. You don't have to worry about the thing breaking down or falling apart. Love my Tundra.
@@louie4316 I owned a corolla for a few years before moving up to a pickup (i have a review of my truck on my channel) and I do miss the ease of mind owning a toyota brings.
You will be disappointed coming From F150. Fuel mileage sucks and the interior, even on the upper trims is full of circa 2006 cheap plastic. Also has the worst crash ratings of any full size pickup.
You better end up doing video reviews of Harley Davidson or Chevys or Rams or Fords.......you definitely are a "Heavy Duty" or "build though" but just by names......True.
Wasn't there a few million mile trucks? Yup! I broke the news of first one and did a video on the 2nd one: czcams.com/video/ogPmNzO-uv8/video.html
@Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk, would you consider a bi-turbo V8 Toyota Diesel? Getting your better mileage as well as cheaper price at the pumps? And I’m sure would be quiet as well.
Had ‘84 (Pre-Tacoma) extra cab 4x4, 5 speed with factory non-turbo diesel. It was a nice truck, but, extended family came into picture, so sold to someone who needed the 4c4 capabilities worse than I.
@@tomcraig4843 Sure!
@@Pickuptrucktalk, website is: www.Dieseltoys.com
I look at it this way, if I know for a fact I’m keeping the Tundra, even though it’s aftermarket but still a Toyota power plant, and installed like it was done by the factory. If, I had the extra $$$$ to install, hands down I would definitely do it...!!
@@tomcraig4843 holy cow. I clicked on the Tundra and it said $40k for the upgrade!
@@Pickuptrucktalk, well, if you were to keep the Tundra for a longer period of time, maybe think long term, like investing in stocks or dividends, or like Warren Buffett, as he has held on his investments including his Berkshire Hathaway...and other blue chip stocks...
I have read so many comments from people asking the big 3 to make a simple, solid and reliable truck. And Toyota has been doing just that
Love my 2020 tundra. It’s so nice to have a truck that’s not in the shop constantly like my Fords were.
Dee Dee glad you enjoyed it.
Can you imagine buying a dodge? Holy crap i have heard nightmares!
Sean Jones I wish I could trade my 17 trd pro for the new releasing ram trx
@@DeeDee-be1mo it has an italian made engine. What could go wrong? Ha ha
Sean Jones I just wanted that 700 hp truck
yes it's OLD!!! but still my favorite Truck ✌✌✌👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I own a 2020 Tundra. Love it, it’s a truck...reliability is second to none.
Best built most reliable truck of them all
Good review and as a 16 Tundra owner with zero issues, the plus and minuses were fair and for a change the comments were civil. As I have said many times, its your money and if you want reliability and know the tradeoffs, you should not have to defend your purchase. Likewise, I don't criticize others who want to spend it on other brands. Be nice to those Tundra owners and they may stop and pick you up if you've broken down.
Thanks Jim!
Or to get in the bed of the truck you can do like we do on the farm.....step up on the rear wheel and hop in. These “Not so good” things you mention are not that big of a deal. I’ll take reliably over all that fancy shit. I love my base model tundra!!!! 👍😬
I am the same!
Sure. You can do that. I just expect more from Toyota and I’m going to keep pushing them to do more. That’s my job. 😃
The styling is on point!
Best looking pickup truck in my eyes. Especially when they’re lifted. This one looks good stock. Even better with more aggressive tires or a lift. 👍👍
Just traded in my 07 Tundra for a 2020. Wanted to wait for the 2022 but couldn’t wait that long. Overall I’m pretty impressed with this truck. Personally I think it’s plenty “Techy” but to each his own. I’m impressed with the Toyota Safety Sense and how confident the truck pulls my boat. I looked at other brands and yes a little fancier inside and more technology which neither is very important to me. And so many different horror stories I’ve heard from domestic truck owners dealing with reliability. Mileage isn’t great of course but pulling my boat I got just over 14 mpg? 19’ boat maybe 3-4,000 lbs. Anyway I don’t understand why so many people bad mouth the Tundra especially if your looking for a long term truck like I do? BTW the dealership where I bought this truck told me in the last week they’ve serviced (oil change) 2 Tundras (second generation) one with over 500 k miles the other over 600 k miles. My 07 had 250 k hard miles. Besides regular maintenance 1 starter. That’s it...
This is great watching this video 2 years later and reading the comments while looking to purchase a used 2020 in 2022 (almost 2023). Sorting out all of the comments and seeing now what the 2022 Tundra introduced. weighing all the comments and being able to purchase the new 2023 Tundra or any F150 or Ram Laramie I would still take a 2020 Tundra. The fancy iPad dashboards are boring after 5 minutes and are just more things to break. The rides are so smooth it loses the appeal of owning a truck. there's no more response from the road. I could literally being riding off the shoulder and not notice it. Two to three years later this model Tundra is a more comfortable cab, a more reliable drivetrain and has the features that matter to a person who wants a touch for a truck and not a glorified soccer mom SUV. Yeah, mileage sucks but I won't have to spend money on repairs and downtime without a truck - that would end up costing more than the repairs. As Im picking up my used 2020 with 33,000 miles on it for $45,000 my neighbor is ordering his 2023 for $65,000. Even though I could afford it I would not trust the new drivetrain for a few years til they have worked out the kinks - and then I will at least still have a vehicle with resale value should I decide to go that route.
Great review. I wish Toyota would offer a Limited or SR5 in their Press Fleet. I saw somewhere that only about 3% of Tundras are the Pro model, but it seems like 90% of reviews are of the Pro.
Yeah, they only send out what they want to sell. If this damn COVID passes, I’ll hook up with the local Toyota dealer to get different models.
Same opinion. How about an SR5 with the basic Off Road or Sport package for review.
Jeffrey Williams I’ll have to go through a dealer for that. They just don’t put those kinds of models in the press fleet. I’ll just have to wait for COVID to pass. Got some young kids at home abs one with respiratory issues, so I’m staying on the side of caution.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Same here with the Covid19 and family issue, stay safe and keep up the great channel.
Jeffrey Williams thanks and you too!
I'm really liking your channel.
Your reviews and thoughts are spot on to what most of us seem to be thinking, great job!
Thanks!
I love my 2018 Tundra CrewMax Limited 4x4, no problems, I sometimes pull a trailer and tractor kicking 7,490# get 8mpg with such load. You can go to SparksParts and get a kit to install that handle on the left windshield pillar and won’t break your wallet. I don’t get paid for my comment. And if fuel mileage was a concern... I’d be driving a Prius.
I’ve driven a Prius once. That was enough. 😂
Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk LMBO Same here, I got a friend of mine loves his, quite frankly if I was going to drive anything that low and tight quarters it’d have to be a C8 Corvette.
A great reliable truck. Gas mileage is the only thing I think is negative about this beast.
I’m about to reach 30k in my army green TRD PRO. This truck is amazing.
you forgot to mention that it has no storage behind the driver and passenger seats...somehow toyota always does those little thing, not a deal breaker, but it just bugs me. lol. Thank you for your great video!
Good point!
Trucks shouldnt be about fancy gadgets and unrealistic fuel economy numbers.. Trucks should be used as a tool to safely and reliably get you to where you want to go and do what you need it to do everytime without issue... Buying a tundra is not just buying a truck .. it's buying piece of mind and conference that you can rely on it for many many years to come 👍
Agreed. Trucks have changed those.
Garbage ..period..sales way down..its a piece of shit , no one buys Garbage 🤣🤣🤣
@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS He's baaaaaak. Time to hide the women and children.
@@gacs1973 just facts🤣🤣🤣
@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS Why can't you just respect that different people have different needs and priorities, rather than get on a channel and start trashing everyone with foul language? I respect your decision to buy the vehicle you own. I think it too has pluses (features) and minuses (reliability), but its your money and I get that. Everytime you get on this channel its usually with some sort of foul mouthed comment. Time to grow up and get a life. Go enjoy your truck and leave the adults alone.
You remind me of my ex brother in law whom I miss dearly. Going pick up one of these today!
My biggest complaint is that the tundras do not have an electric locking rear differential. If you are worried about fuel consumption... you shouldn't be buying a truck.
Beautiful tundra.
They should call those quick tie downs ....not so quick tie downs lol.
Good info on the ride quality of the trd pro. I wouldn’t have even considered that truck as I don’t go off road. But if it has a nicer ride than the other trim levels, it’s now on the list.
Paul H it rides remarkably smooth and handles great.
Yeah, I think that's something overlooked. I owned a SR5 for a few years and the ride quality is better on the off-road trims due to the suspension differences. More truck squat with a TRD over a SR5, but a better ride quality.
Is it just my imagination or do the 4 wheel drive trucks ride higher then 2WD trucks.
As a first time tundra owner, having this exact truck coming from an f150, I can add to the convo. The tundra has minimum storage space compared to my 2009 f150. The cup holders are to small to hold normal size Gatorade’s or larger sized drinks. No cooled seats. No step ladder/step or way to get into the bed easily without jumping up. The steering wheel volume and next track buttons should be reversed. Skip next track button should be where the volume buttons are, left and right and the volume buttons should be up and down. Instead it’s opposite. Stock sound system does not go loud enough. No grab handle on drivers side door. CarPlay isn’t wireless. Back seat floor isn’t flat and has no under seat storage. The paint is extremely thin. Already have a few scratches. My ac unit will not completely shut off the vents that I turn off and continues to blow small amounts of air even though I turned that particular vent off or switched to a different vent. Back up camera is garbage quality. Sometimes the screen lags when connected to CarPlay when making calls or freezes. Cruise control default mode is always set on adaptive mode and you have to hold the button down to switch it to normal old school cruise control every single time you use it. I hate the auto windows. . Giant key fab. Minor complaints, but the truck would be even better with these improvements. Bought it for the reliability and looks mainly.
I love my Tundra will never trade it for any truck
I've got a 2020 Pro myself. The stereo was crap. I had to upgrade and so did everyone else who likes a quality system in their vehicles. I mean it's a farce that they say their system is enhanced. It's a joke. I went with OEM Audio Plus for the upgrade. About 1,600 but it was worth it
Love my 2020 Tundra.
They should spray in liner, love color nice truck
lawrence fitzgerald you would expect that and a grab handle on a $55k truck, but no sweers has to “perfect” the trucks by getting rid of the small details.
Got a 3.5 in lift running mud 35in tires , getting 13 mpg half city half highway. I gas up twice a week T.T not too bad with gas this cheap but can't imagine keeping this truck for long when gas at 3$
I had a 13 SR5. Reliable yes. Uncomfortable yup. Ate tires and brakes too. I miss it especially now with low gas prices but I look forward to my next truck... when I make that decision... lots of plastic in it unfortunately.
I agree, I just bought a 19 tundra, very happy with it but it rides rough no doubt and the interior seems very plasticky and dated. Its a heavy truck also, takes a heavy foot on the brake to stop and leans hard in turns, at 12k miles my ltx tires maybe have 30-40% tread left. I traded a ram 1500 in for it and I have to give it to ram, the 8 speed trans was leaps and bounds ahead of the 6 speed in the tundra.
I’ve noticed the better tires and better brakes ie expensive did keep her on the road better. I did 20k a year on back roads so my back was always hurting.
Two other things that still irks me about my 2016 TRD Pro are: (1) no auto power up front windows; and (2) the console is just a big hole. The console could use better storage organization.
Yeah, drop something in that center console and its like the black abyss. Good point on the auto up. I missed that for sure.
Should I get the Tundra TRD Pro or Sequoia TRD PRO?
Do you need a bed or the third-row for passengers? I went with the truck since I didn’t need the additional seats.
Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk Family of 5. It’s tough because a truck offers so many benefits, as well as the Sequoia.
If you don't plan on going off road, or hauling a lot of stuff that ONLY fits in an open bed, get the Sequoia...
Like you non-biased reviews. I’m planning on buying a new redesigned 2022 or later if my 07 will continue to hold up. Will listen to your view of the truck before I purchase. Hoping for an available V8 option and not a lot of techy stuff to go wrong. If I absolutely dislike the new redesign I will get a 2021 I guess. The build quality and reliability of my 07 Tundra has been impressive just don’t think I can get anything like that from the domestics. I can sacrifice 2-3 mpg for that.
Thanks! I try my best to be as impartial as possible.
How many sheets of plywood does it hold, how many dirtbikes fit with the tailgate up? It seems trucks in USA have turned girly, like the men.
SawHorse what are you on about? Maybe you should come up with a rating for 4x8 sheet carrying capacity or dirt bike storage ability and stop whining about whatever it is you think should be.
Agreed. WTF does that mean about how many sheets of plywood. That’s just a weight calculation. Not hard to figure out. Trucks are more than carrying plywood.
Plywood and rock come in 4x8 sheets. That bed is 5'6", so you would need to put the tailgate down and use straps but it's wide enough to lay between the wells.
Get the doublecab with an 8' bed.
Really! What’s the big deal putting tailgate down?
The Tundra is a wonderful truck. It is on my short list. Personally I'm in the market for a new truck within the next year or so. I have looked and test drove a lot of different brands. The Tundra (acually any of the Tundra model's) has reliability like I want, crash rating unfortunately is a bit poor (I'm sure the next generation will fix this issue), and a locking rear differential would be appreciated. I don't think its unresonable as a consumer spending my hard earned money on a truck to expect a bit better fuel mileage from the Tundra. It's like they just don't care and stopped trying regarding that part. just my 2 cents but this is 2020 there no way that Toyota shouldn't be able to offer a different transmission like a 8 speed and a different rear end gearing to help with the mileage. Great truck I agree but come on Toyota. 430 rear end gears on a 1/2 ton crew cab. Maybe give us as consumer's a option package to purchase a model that will achieve something like maybe 22 combined mpg. I appreciate the reliability debate but Toyota has to have the technology to make this same truck with better fuel economy & without sacrificing there reliability. All truck models including the Toyota Tundra aren't cheap. It's a lot of money that we are spending on our trucks. Again I personally don't think it's too much to ask a manufacturer to offer a model that will achieve a bit better fuel economy at the same time as there continued reliability. I drive about 20,000 miles a year and the bit better fuel mileage would be appreciated.
Ever since the recession of 2008, Toyota has been out of the full size truck game. I would argue that a cash starved Nissan has put more effort into their full size truck than Toyota has. It's quite pathetic when you realize that Toyota has been the global sales leader for many years in recent history.
Wait 5 months and it will get a new drivetrain
Tim I've got a 19 Mag gray TRd sport.... got about 4500.00 in modifications including the Pro's skid plate and the TRd pro CAi that a Pro model should come with from the factory. Not having a grab handle on the drivers side is just another way for Toyota to get us in the parts dept. to pay for what we shouldn't need to. And then add insult to injury by charging over 150.00 bucks for it when it should cost about 80.00.
That damn grab handle it’s pisses me off. What a crap decision.
Just respect the gas pedal like i was taught years ago. My '20 gets 17 back and forth to work.
Thought I'd try ram in '16. First an ecodiesel 1500 (haha), then a Cummins 2500. Cummins was a good truck, but too many recalls, and it only averaged 17. For me, the tundra is my tool. I'm too old for all the " plastic gadget crap anyway"
The Tundra interior is full of circa 2006 cheap plastic.
You got 17 in a diesel???
@@brianfinn7644 ya, driving easy
@exalted one... Last I checked, cheap plastic has nothing to do with keeping the vehicle out of the shop! You could go Ram Rebel and get all the fancy plastic you want! Just be willing to spent lots of time in the shop!
Tim check out the company ESP. They make storage boxes that go under the back seat of the crew cab. Also Sparks Parts sells the grab handle for the driver side. Also there are bumper companies like body guard that make bumpers with the corner steps. I think the tundra is just right and gives you the ability to upgrade things if you are missing certain features that some people want. Toyota is now selling the trd pro suspension to anyone so you can put it on any trim level tundra.
Sure, but $50k plus you have to buy your own add one? Crazy.
Yeah but i love modifying my vehicles. Makes it your own style. Gotta pay to play!
To bad payload isn’t that great but I love Toyota Tundra and Tacoma.. that V8 is so reliable and I’ll take that over tec or anything else
I have a Tacoma and is great BUT towing our camper is a bit of a chore. The 4 litre V6 can do it but it works hard so I want the Tundra with a V8. Things I think Toyota should improve...those stupid tow hooks in the front...so idiotic. The other issue...no rear locker available as an option or standard on TRD OFF ROAD.
As for the access to the bed...buy a step that goes into the hitch reciever...I got one for my Taco years ago at TSC. It works well. Having owned GM and FORD...I will gladly pay a bit more for gas and save a ton on repairs.
YOU NEVER MENTIONED THAT ITS THE ONLY TRUCK IN THE MARKET TO HAVE A BACK ROLL DOWN REAR WINDOW 🤔🤔🤔
Eh. I owned one for a few years. I think I used it twice.
@@Pickuptrucktalk because of the short bed the tundra has, I've seen at stores tundra owners lower the back window to slide long item through the cabin such as 2x4 or sidding..pretty cool feature and option to have..Also the chance to open the entire cab on nice days to feel the breeze is awesome too
@@freddyo2k10 I’ve done that with 2x4s and it is ok if you like wood chips on your back seats. I mean it works. Sorry, I guess I should have mentioned it. Just don’t use it that much myself.
I love my 2020 Tundra Limited it's a solid truck. I am just sorry it's one of the last. I will be interested to see if the 2022 can live up to this generation's repratation.
You nailed it! Thanks for the review.
Thanks!
Great looking TRD Pro.
I have a 15 XP. Love the ride and the 20inch wheels. My only hang up on the pro is the 18inch wheels. Do I just need to suck it up and buy it or build a SR5 with all the pro stuff
Man, that Army Green rocks!!!! That rumble from the V8 is pretty sweet. In my experience though, other than winter tires most Michelins are crappy. No usb for backseat riders for $54K huh
You mean crappy Michelins for trucks, right? Cause their sports tires are the best in the business hands down, and their all weather tires routinely are picked No.. 1 for rain/road handling...
I love my TACO! Tundra is just too big and too much on the gas for city person like myself. Taco does 90% what I need it to do as a residential redeveloper.
Taco is great for the city for sure. I can’t imagine driving a Tundra in a city. I did in Denver and what a pain in the butt!
I'm getting a little tired if Tundras. I do pool service and construction. Cased tools and parts in the back seat, crappy stuff in the bed. I'm tempted to get a Taco 4door with the 6' bed. Is it kinda small for your biz?
That's good, for you...But for all us 6'4" and taller guys, the Taco doesn't work at ALL....
@@sharkskin3448 I am not personally involved much in the construction trades mostly provide sales, finished product support and other small jobs, say if last minute the customer wanted swap range hood or they're not completely satisfied w/ their counter top I go change those for them.
@@btcbull thanks for the reply 👍
I LOVE MINE .
In 2018 I bought a new TRD offroad limited doublecab. I love every thing about it but the salesman talked me into ordering a 2019 TRD Pro. I wanted all the accessories that my limited had but was told that most of them were not available on the pro even though they are available on the crewcab. I was told that they would try to get me what I wanted but couldn't promise. The only thing that I didn't want was the predator running boards, I wanted a different set. When the truck came in it had none of the accessories I wanted and it had the predator running boards so needless to say I didn't get the truck. For an extra 12,000 I would have had less accessories than I have now but would only gain a TRD exhaust and rims.
Interesting. I can’t believe the dealer screwed that easy sale up by not ordering the right truck.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I was there when they ordered it so I know what they put down, it was toyota that refused to install the accessories that I wanted. I was disgusted with them for that but not enough to stop driving a toyota because they are very reliable and I love my truck.
I always had a ford, my grandfather's Grand Torino, to my Mustang 5.0 in college, to my Thunderbird after college, to my F150 after marriage (my passive-aggressive way of not getting a minivan when the kids started coming), then to a Honda Odyssey LX after one of the kids fell out of the truck when trying to exit the door. Then two decades of Hondas.
Now, that the youngest kid is in high school, I wanted a truck, but instead of buying another F150, I bought a Toyota Tundra TRD Crewmax. It feel like a Ford. It vibrates when I start the engine. And it looks like a truck.
As loyal as I've become to Honda because of its reliability, I couldn't buy the soy-boy Ridgeline. I may take the jump to Toyota. I'm planning my midlife crisis in a few years, so I may consider a Lexus because a corvette seems a bit... cliché.
Interesting stuff thanks for sharing. Always good to try different brands!
That color looks good
Every Tundra review: They're terrible on gas..... Proceeds to start truck, rev the sh!t out of it, pedal to the metal accelerate, LOVE THE POWER, So much fun...... 🤔
Pretty much!
@@Pickuptrucktalk Not picking on you, I'm a fan, just a theme amongst every review.
@@jeffw6894 oh I think you summed up every review really well.
Nice video Tim👍
Thanks.
. This TRD Pro is perfect! Leave it alone!
Other than offering an optional rear locker (many Tundra owners seem to agree), I would tend to agree with you!
Good job. Always enjoy your reviews.
Thanks.
A great truck, there's not a thing wrong with this truck, it will outlast the others
$54k and all you get is a rubber bed mat to protect the bed?
That rubber mat though...
The mat was an extra. I guess it’s not a work truck after all
phaT habitaT you can get the factory spray Berliner it’s an option just like all the other overpriced trucks.
Go buy a 70K RAM or Ford and you'll get that....
Tim have you watch the Tundra Deconstructed video. These truck are truely built like 3/4 ton trucks. The guy on there were towing 14K lb+ off road and no frame bending for 100k miles.
I've never doubted it is an over built truck. I just worry about people really exceeding capacity over and over again. Lots of wear on those components.
Yeah apparently the rancher was loading 12 heads on a 24ft gooseneck.and still the front end held up at 100k no leaks etc... I think this is the best half ton truck you can buy still as of now. What's interesting is that it proves rigidity does not mean strength. You'll be less likely to take more road input with a fully boxed frame than an open c as the c channel will flex to increase the impulse stretching that force over time.
No flat floor, no under seat storage, bottom seat cushion is thick, taking up alot more space than needed... but it's reliable.
Buy the Tundra pay more for gas, buy anything else pay for repairs, paint and lower resale.
Heavy truck ,low tow rating , no 360 camera , most of the payload is used for carrying 38 gallons of gas to go as far as modern trucks go on way less
All off road trucks (non-HD) have lower tow/payload ratings...And the Power Wagon gets no better mpg...Toyota just needs a new 8-speed transmission to up the mpg a couple/three...And the Tundra has a bigger tank AND more payload than many other trucks (including Power Wagon)...360 camera--nitppicking....It's a truck, period. Buy WAY more reliable than the others!!!
Hi I am new to this channel I have a 2011 tundra rock warrior edition and I love it what a awesome truck. I have heard they are doing away with the V 8 motor. Not a good idea for Toyota
Yeah, I call BS on that rumor. I just don’t see it.
Actually Toyota is looking to do away with the V8 in the Land Cruiser (many have made mention of this), so the V8 may just go away in the Tundra as well (let's certainly hope not)...
I tried and tried to buy the one up from the base model tundra and the dealer would not sell me one because they liked to put lift kits on them and sell them for a big chunk of money. I was very unhappy about that! I ended up with a ram but it still irritates me that they would not let me buy the truck stock the way they come from the factory.
Weird. I see a lot of them in base and I bought a SR5 years ago.
Good review but I decided to go with a Ram when I got a truck. The Ram rides better, gets better fuel mileage has better power with the hemi. I got a used truck and the tundras where 6-8k more for a 3 year old truck. I got a 2017 ram 1500 bighorn with 28k miles on it for 29k and it's been awesome. I know everyone says Toyota is so much better with reliability but I have an old 1995 ram and it's a great old truck and my brother has always been a Ram guy. He has a 05 Cummins with 385k miles on it and no issues and a 15 ram 1500 with a hemi and 180k miles without an issue. I'll take my chances especially since I saved 7k on the truck
Some guys have great luck with Ram trucks.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I agree I think it's a lot to due with maintenance and not driving it like a race car everywhere. Plus I know of the hemi can issues so I change my oil every 4-5k miles regardless of the recommendation. All trucks have issues and problems but I have seen a lot people with hemis that have 200k on the engine. I personally probably will pay my truck off in about three years drive it until it hits 100k and upgrade it. I only put 8k on my vehicles per year so this is my plan. I will keep my old Ram forever because I don't know if it'll ever die its a great old truck but I do take care of my vehicles
Patchworx brewing routine maintenance goes a loooong way.
Deciding between a new Tundra TRD Pro or used 2017-2018 Lexus LX 570 as a work vehicle. My 2019 BMW M5 only gets 12 mpg and my 2020 X7 is too nice for work. 😅
Tough choice!
I’m not sure why you would be considering a Tundra as a back and forth to work vehicle? There are many other options, and none of them are trucks
Do off-road packages ride smoother than factory? Is that the same for heavy duty trucks too? My test drive of the F250 (XLT) felt really bumpy compared to a tundra. Would a tremor suspension feel more half ton like or still get the bouncy ride from having an empty bed?
Yes, I think off-road suspensions rude smoother although they give up some towing with more bed swag than a stock truck. Tremor would feel more like half ton in my opinion.
The tie downs are straight out of a Frontier 🤣
Tim, I got 6 minutes in and had to check the date this was posted. Cough, cough. 2020 Nissan Titan is way more updated than that Tundra! BTW, how do like that Toyota heated steering wheel?
I think it’s ok. I’m surprised it isn’t warmer. Also interestingly it isn’t available in Canada as I’ve learned.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Correct. Makes no sense at all, especially at that price point. Personally I would take a heated steering wheel over heated seats.
Reliable, but old and outdated. Safety crash rating is also the worse. Mpg is awful too
Eh. Safety crash rating was fine until they changed the test. MPG is pretty bad though.
Think I’ve lost some respect for you Tim with your Nissan comment about styling! The Titan looks awesome and compared to a Pro4X that tundra has the features of something from 1980!!
Nah, Nissan comment was about not updating their trucks. Nothing about styling.
@@Pickuptrucktalk But if you were paying, which would you buy?
Hi Tim, Wes here again. I know your aware of the unofficial rumors of the new Tundra coming out. So if they get a Tundra to get 450 horse + 30 miles per gallon. I also heard the towing capacity could be up to 15 to 18 thousand pounds which is crazy. Shouldn't they have 2 types of trucks available 1/2 ton and a 3/4 ton what's your thoughts on that.
Sounds like baseless rumors to me.
Yeah, I’m with Alan on this one. Lots of pipe dreams in those rumors.
Why do you think Toyota doesn't build HD trucks? They (HD trucks) are used harder and abused a little more, and their reliability rating would suffer...
Are there no map pockets on the seat backs? I use my map pockets! For maps and map books. Map books are too big for the glove box and door pockets.
Nope.
Duluth Trading makes some cool seat back organizers!
Karl Urban interesting. I like their stuff!
@@Pickuptrucktalk when I checked their website, I was shocked by all they had to offer!
That rear seat is huge. But did you point out the rear climate controls? Or rear USB ports? Hmm.
😂 neither.
I have a 2019 TRD pro blue blue I enjoy the truck the only little problems I’ve had is I’ve started to have paint chips on the doors starting at 2500 miles and now I have a tear in my backseat which Toyota was touting these seats as better than leather already fighting with the dealership about getting some of this stuff taken care of under my extended warranty package let you know how that goes coming up on three weeks and haven’t heard back yet that would be Andrew Toyota Milwaukee with
That sucks. Definitely let us know how it goes.
They should at least put Storage under that rear seat and a grab handle for the driver. Its ridiculous because the double cab versions have storage under the rear seat but not the crewmax.
I want to add this truck to my shopping list, especially the TRD Pro. I love the exterior look and standard safety systems. However the lack of a front bench option, the uneven rear floor, and the TRD Pro’s deep pit of ass-scorching, blackety-blackness interior keep it off my list.
Anyone drive the 4.6 v8? I know they’ve been dc but never hear a lot about them. The whole 1 better mpg always was funny to me.
And.....then you bought a 6 cyl turbo F 150 and everything went to shit.
I'm glad I bought F150, tundra it's a relic no updates in years
Can you turn the smart cruise off and just use old cruise control?
Good question. Here is what I found: "Yes. Drivers in equipped Toyota models are able to switch between the dynamic radar cruise control system and a traditional cruise control system. To do so, push and hold the dynamic radar cruise control button on your Toyota steering wheel for about 2 seconds. Your multi-information display cruise control indicator light should change, and your cruise control system should switch. Once the engine is turned off, your vehicle will automatically default to the dynamic radar cruise control setting."
Hope that helps.
F150 is almost 3 and time to trade. Thought I would try one of these before the 5.7 goes away. Toyota makes good stuff, just never bought one.
It's a truck. If can afford it you can afford to gas it
Tim, I hate to be the one to tell you this but the truck is not tall, you are short ;)
Knock it off!!!
@@Pickuptrucktalk You are right about the missing handle on the driver's side. At 6'3", I worry about whether I fit inside a car or truck not whether I can get up inside.
Nice truck but desperately needs a more efficient powertrain!
To many ads!!
Sorry!
I wish there was an easier way to tell a crew cab from the double cab. I’ve been looking for a crewmax cab. And a lot of the time the sellers don’t know what they have and it can get tricky looking at photos trying to figure out what truck they have.
It’s actually pretty easy, the double cab has the handle on the side of the door as opposed to the crew max with the handle located on the face of the door
I think the rear door size is the same as the front door size on crew max.
Sorry Toyota I have 420/460 and get better MPG’s and more options
I've had a 2019 Ram 1500 since July and it is a middle of the road trim package. My truck is WAY more and better laid out than this truck. Bigger engine with more torque and HP and 20MPG, no lie. Ram has a bigger screen, better camera, updated everything, the most quiet and comfortable ride ever and I've owned new trucks since 1980. Ram has mated an 8 speed torque flight to their hemi since 2012 plus now they offer the hybrid option to the hemi. In everyway the Ram is a better truck and it is less $. My Ram 1500 4x4 has more options and comforts with a lower price tag than this truck. This TRD is not junk nor am I saying that. All new trucks are great regardless of who makes them. I'm saying that the Ram is better across the board than this truck at a better price. I've owned Rams since 1995 and they have been reliable and trouble free for me. Most of my friends own either GMCs of Fords and they all say that my Rams have been more reliable, and in my case that is true. Much different from the trucks I owned previously. If it ain't broke don't fix it
No doubt, the new Ram 1500 is at the top of the trucks right now. Reliability has always been their Achille's heel. Sounds like you have had good luck though.
While this truck definitely hits the mark on reliability, Toyota really missed the mark on off road capability. It's a TRD PRO that doesn't even come close to batting in the same league as it's Tacoma and even more so 4Runner counterparts. No rear locker, no true off road capable tire, and a tire way too small for even a factory 1/2 ton 4x4 performance package considering most manufactures are offering something in the realm of a 33' x 11'. I feel like Toyota could really hit the mark with this truck if they included a selectable E-locker in the rear axle, perhaps a helical in the IFS diff, and set of 33' off road tires. Ultimately what Toyota has built here is a truck you drive on a well traveled dirt road to a common camp site, not a truck you drive on a rough trail to a remote area with off shoots leading to camp sites with awesome views which 99.9% of the world's population will never see. They would be better off saving the consumer some money and making this package a rear wheel drive only option because realistically this truck couldn't tackle anything beyond a very mild trail.
The chief engineer is on record, on this channel saying the Tundra doesn't need a rear locker. He is controlled by bean-counters that think cheap plastic interior panels and Camry's are the "in thing". Toyota is lost. The Zupra wasn't a fluke, it's a real culture problem at big T.
alienation well don’t get me wrong, ATRAC and Toyota Crawl Control are excellent and have done some amazing things in my wife’s TRD 4Runner, sometimes you just need the rear locker to get through something. My advice, if you want a Tundra for real off use buy an SR5 4x4 and build your own.
@@jamesngotts My advice is if you want a real offroad fullsize truck buy a Power Wagon.
I'd rather have a reliable gas guzzler than a unreliable fuel sipper. Having said that, I hope Toyota adds locking diff and improves crash test ratings which are horrible
Yeah. That will change. Crash testing changed while the truck was already out. Easy to make an example. Cheating by the testing organizations.
Git’em while you can folks. No more burly V8 in the next gen. Toyota is moving forward with the turbo, direct injection, hybrid BS.
Which is going to be the downfall of toyota!
There's really no excuse for the lack of features in the TRD pro Toyotas. Those tires are horrible for off road and Michelin is an expensive brand. They could probably get duratracs or ko2s on that truck for the same price and it would improve the truck's capability a lot! Toyota's rear locker excuse is getting old too. Everyone else has it! Right now, the TRD Pro is really barely only competing against a Z71 Chevy or Ford Fx4. Add the locker and legitimate tires, it would be a serious Trail Boss or Rebel competitor
Good criticisms.
Sweers is a puppet on a string in a matrix of bean-counters.
Toyota reliable truck not like Ford and GM brand new go back and forward to dealer shops
Don’t get me wrong guys. Reliable, nice truck but damn that is a lot of money I’m spending on the lack of certain amenities
Agreed. They could add a lot more to this truck for the price.
Well, you can get a Power Wagon for 10-20K more and have less payload, smaller gas tank, and worse mpg...But hey, options man.
did u meant embedded emblems or embossed...not sure if thats a word
Embossed is a word.
12k to much and crash test rating is poor.
8:18 either that truck is enormous or you are 5'7"!!! Ha ha. I have never seen a truck that I couldnt look onside the bed! But Im 6'5".
Damn tall guys... 🤣
At your height (I'm about the size height as you), you really shouldn't be calling out someone's height for looking in bed purposes...It's like a rich person calling out the rest of us for not owning a Mercedes-Benz 4x4 Squared G Wagon..
This truck is built like a bear. I love it. Have considered trading in my F150 for one 🤔
Pray4Cars F150 is nice, the Tundra will work.
Although the F150 is a nice truck, there's something special about Toyota trucks. Owning one is like having a weight lifted off your chest. You don't have to worry about the thing breaking down or falling apart.
Love my Tundra.
@@louie4316 I owned a corolla for a few years before moving up to a pickup (i have a review of my truck on my channel) and I do miss the ease of mind owning a toyota brings.
You will be disappointed coming From F150. Fuel mileage sucks and the interior, even on the upper trims is full of circa 2006 cheap plastic. Also has the worst crash ratings of any full size pickup.
1 thru 5 it sucks ass.
You better end up doing video reviews of Harley Davidson or Chevys or Rams or Fords.......you definitely are a "Heavy Duty" or "build though" but just by names......True.
I have 600 videos on this channel and have covered all those trucks. Just hit the search bar!
The Titan is better equipped
Yep, the PRO-4X model has more equipment for a comparable price.