And the stupid thing is that they didn’t even do it for MPG’s they did it for emissions. Yes they could definitely make the 5.7 get better mileage, maybe an 8 speed tranny or even different gears, IMO. But I still love my 21 and wouldn’t trade it for a 3rd gen.
Amazing experience getting to drive your 22 TRD pro brother! Thank you for such a great video friend! Can't wait to create more content with our trucks!
My favorite tundra video by far! I’m in the market for a TRD Pro and I’m leaning towards the 2021, can’t go wrong with the simplicity and huge cab and the amazing durable and reliable V8. Both trucks are beautiful though, love me a Toyota!
The old one actually looks really good. More muscular. Plus it’s a V8. What’s troubling is that the new 2022 was taken of the list of reliability consumer magazine.
The previous generation is definitely a great looking truck! For the 2022 reliability, every vehicle will have their issues initially. Even the previous generation tundra had its issues early on. Time will tell to see how reliable or unreliable the new generation is. I have no intent of getting rid of my truck so I can be the test subject lol
I am actually surprised how visually you can tell the new truck is smaller. As a former Ecoboost owner who had the turbos go out on me in the middle of Oklahoma with a trailer I had to abandon so I could limp mode it 2 1/2 hours at 30 mph to the nearest Ford dealership and spend $6,000 to fix…naturally aspirerated motors only for me.
The truck is definitely smaller. Actually didn’t pay much attention to it on the video till you pointed it out. In person, the difference wasn’t as significant as it appears on the video lol. I too previously owned an EcoBoost so I can relate 🤣
Wow that's like the worst moment for it to happen, but it makes sense as towing is a high load scenario that would stress the engine. Now that the new Mustang and Super Duty are out we can at least say that the new 6.8L V8 will very likely never be used in anything else than the HD trucks. A shame because that motor is brilliant but it will get worse fuel economy than the 5.0 so that's the reason. It has better outputs though with 405 hp (vs 400) and 445 lb-ft (vs 410) of torque. Ford chose that design for maximum realistic reliability while still delivering fuel economy (to make it even more reliable you'd have to remove EFI and make it fully mechanical with that simple PFI OHV engine, which kills fuel economy and outputs). F-250 is a big step up from F-150 so this is gonna be dicey.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 If I was to buy a F-250 I would only get the 7.3L V8. The diesel is over kill and extremely pricey to buy and to maintain. The 6.8L V8 to me is a waste. What's the point when it is many ways almost as good as the 7.3 but isn't as good. Either way the 7.3L V8 Godzilla is an incredible motor so far.
@@TristanGrimaldo Ford does a terrible job letting you know what is required to own a twin turbo motor. I hope Toyota is doing a better job. First, they don't tell you that you have to do a TDI service every 30-40k (turbo direct injection) to clean out the built up carbon. If you don't do that it can kill your motor over time. Second, you have to change out the barrings every 80,000 miles and they are not cheap. It was around $600 on that F-150 I owned. Third, if you do a lot of towing your turbos will wear out prematurely. I got to 153,000'ish miles when they blew and that was it. All said and done I don't think I got any better gas, and infact I got worse mpg towing. Averaged around 7.5-9.5 mpg. Just awful.
Very good review guys. One thing I'd like to point out is that while other commentors spoke of the V8's reliability, I don't think anyone mentioned longevity. The V8 regularly goes over 300K miles. Many people buy Toyota with the intention of keeping it a long time. I'm currently driving a 2008 Tundra 5.7L with 160,000 miles. I'd like to know what the lifespan is on the hybrid batteries and what it would cost to replace them. Overall great review on both trucks.
Very good point! The V8 has proven itself to reach 300k miles or more consistently. This being a new powertrain, that has yet to be seen. My confidence in Toyota there and the closest resemblance in its potential would be the Prius (which I own). Prius are known to hit 300k miles easily as well and even some million mile Prius out there also. Batteries can be replaced but the motor's Toyota engineers develop are designed to remain consistent with their brand and reputation. I can't say the same for the Supra and its BMW motor though lol
Thank you for this comparison. It’s good to see actual Tundra owners prospective. One thing I would like to add is the price delta of $15k more for the 2022 Tundra PRO vs 2021 PRO. That on MSRP, not counting crazy markups
Thank you! 🙏. The 2022 TRD pro definitely comes at a higher price point excluding all the mark ups and dealer add-ons. But personally, I do see why. The 2022 Tundra’s technology & features surpasses the previous generation. But that’s what also makes the previous generation amazing. It’s simplicity 🙂. Many more comparison videos to come featuring Edgar and his 2020 Army Green TRD Pro Tundra. Stay tuned 😎
I think this was a very fair comparison. I'm a 20 TRD Pro owner and I absolutely love my truck. There are a lot of things I also like about the new Gen Pros. That must have been fun getting to drive both trucks! Well done, guys.
Thank you John! It was definitely awesome getting the opportunity to drive each other’s trucks! Each are awesome in their own special way! More comparison videos to come 😉
It's a tough one but you guys did a great job pointing the good and the bad. Honest opinion all around. As you mentioned, interior space and the V8 is something that's hard to step away from. By the way, beautiful TRD Pro!!! the only trim that looks on the re-design!
Thank you David! Honestly, I loved Edgar’s truck. I told Edgar this that in the long run, his TRD pro is going to be worth a lot of money no doubt about it. Something about the simplicity of it that I loved. Personally if I could own both I would 😁
@@TristanGrimaldo :) yes sir. Having both would be a perfect world. Who knows, maybe one day they'll decide to come out with a limited run of the TRD Pro with a V8. You just never know.
What I like about the naturally aspirated V8 is its proven reliability. I don't see the V6 twin turbo matching the V8 when it comes to reliability. But hey only time will tell, it's a Toyota after all.
Previous gen owner here, I was telling everyone that the crew cab is much smaller on the new Tundra, now they know for real! Also love the fact that the rear seats can recline before they took that option away. Anyways, the new look is cool looking compared. Good vid guys! 👍👍
Definitely a noticeable difference! Not to say the new one isn’t roomy or comfortable. Just surprised how much smaller it is compared to the older generation. Thanks for watching!
@@TristanGrimaldo I have a 2020 Trd pro same color as Edgar, I love the interior space but me being a single dad with a seven-year-old, I don’t need much huge space in the back of a crew max anyway.When my lease is up I am going to go look for the 2022-2023 Trd pro as my upgrade you can’t beat the mileage compared to the V-8. The way I see it got to move with the times.How close was the 0 to 60 sprint with the tow haul mode on compared to your truck? You said it felt similar on the video but how much similar? I havn’t drove a 2022 yet. I never cared about top speed but what counts for me is from a dead stop 0-60 zip. I wish the 2022 had the same hight as the 2020 if not maybe a little higher but other than that,that’s a perfect truck for me.👍🏼💪🏼Albert from the Los Angeles area
@@Albert-777 Hey Albert! I’m a regular in LA and Cali. Have family there and in the Bay Area. To answer your question, when Edgar had me press the tow haul mode button, the throttle felt more sensitive and responsive. It also seemed to hold the gear longer. But you also saw Edgar’s reaction to driving my TRD Pro. Crazy thing is it wasn’t even in sport mode which I guess would be equivalent to that tow haul mode button. I tried a 0-60 run with an app and if I remember correctly it put up 6.3 seconds? Overall, you will love the I-Force Max. I have not met someone who has said anything about the driving experience of the I-Force Max. Toyota honestly did a great job using the electric motor to fill in the dips in the power and torque curve. Puts a smile on my face every time. Thank you for watching and if you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to reach out.
@@TristanGrimaldo Thank you for the reply I totally appreciate it.👍🏼ps maybe one day I’ll run into you in the LA area.(Whittier)👍🏼💪🏼stay safe out there 😎
I’m still looking at getting the 2021 TRD PRO used over the new model! The Cabin space & overall body style is my main stays. If I could get mpg of the hybrid & infotainment of the current gen paired with previous gen it would be perfect!!
Thank you Eric! Glad you found video informative and entertaining. If you have any questions to help you with your decision please don’t hesitate to reach out. Thank you for watching.
Man I’m watching this video and saw the restaurant depot right away and thought “no way this isn’t where I think it is” and then I see 249 on the screen and then little woodrows 😂😂😂 man what a small world. Great video guys still up in the air for me on what to get but definitely got good info
Lmao!! Small world indeed! You’re definitely 💯 accurate on the location. That’s too funny 🤣. Thank you for watching! And if you have any questions don’t hesitate to reach out. More videos to come with Edgar.
Finally a real comparison review! I knew and have always told everyone its smaller. I like the way the 22 looks but toyota dropped the ball trying to make it look prettier than functional. 21 for the WIN!
Thank you! A lot of great videos out there reviewing the new Tundra, but it’s always more credible hearing it from a true owner’s perspective. Stay tuned for a short that I’ll be recording that compares media reviews vs. real owner reviews. I’m going to have fun with that one 🤣. Honestly after driving Edgar’s truck, personally I wouldn’t mind owning a V8 too lol.
@@TristanGrimaldo still love the 22 wish it couldve been bigger. I Dont even mind the V6 TT honestly. But as a family of 6 i needed that Crewmax 6 seater 4x4 (Rare) so i had to drop 40k cash on a good deal lol. 2015 SuperWhite SR5 with Trd Off Road package. ive already made the seats Red, blacked out all emblems. 5% tint lumar all around, lots of lighting, i left my 32 inch lightbar switch same place as the 22 lol. Im about to install a DB Customz grill in the future. Next up im waiting on my 3 inch lift with Falken MT’s 35x12.5x17 on rock warrior wheels 😅. Since i couldnt buy a pro with 6 seats had to make tbe Sr5 look like a Pro.
@@18HunnidBK your truck sounds awesome! My F150 was a 6 seater and my front bench seat actually came in handy haha. But honestly either way you go, the new Tundra in my opinion is a great truck. Yes it’s not perfect but Toyota is proactive and very involved. If I didn’t have the TRD pro, I would have heavily modified my Tundra (volks, overland gear, etc.) lol.
Thanks for the video. I test drove a new 24' limited with the TRD package and really liked it. I'm going to test drive at 21' TRD Pro tomorrow that's for sale at a great price. We'll see.
I just HATE how they made the TOYOTA scrip just a bit bigger. It looks so wrong now. It was NEVER big on any Toyota before these. I really dislike Toyota for following along this stupid trend of making super tacky editions.
Thank you! 🙏. Both are beautiful trucks indeed. Lunar rock is definitely a beautiful color! Sometimes compliments go more towards the color than the actual truck 😁. Many more comparison videos to come. Stay tuned 😎
As far as longevity with the newer Gen truck it’s not if the turbos go out it’s when. I don’t care who makes it, at some point it’s going to be an expensive fix. But I did sit in the new Gen truck at the dealer when I bought my 21 Tundra Voodoo in Bourne TX. It was the highest trim level called Capstone. Man I’ll tell you it’s the most amazing interior I’ve ever sat inside. Hopefully Toyota brings back a smaller V8. My 2021 Tundra will be on the road for years.
The powertrain has been used in Japan for quite sometime even before releasing it to us in the states. I agree with your concerns but only time will tell. I expected the same from my F150 ecoboost but that thing was around 150k miles maybe before I sold it and never had issues with the turbo 🙂.
This is what every gen 3 naysayer needs to do, actually test drive the truck. I cant speak for the the non hybrid, but my 22 TRD PRO smokes my 16 and 17 TRD PRO. They do have the V8 sound/rumble, I can not deny on the outside the V8 does sound better. That and the better turning radius on the older gen, everything else on the 22 I like better. Good on you for letting somone test drive it, I think he was open minded and honest too. My neibours relatives were over their house on Thanksgiving he had a 22 limited with TRD package non hybrid. I tired to get him to test it but he said no I'm good its the same truck. I was like not really man, but he just wouldnt take the offer. Im sure there is a pretty significant difference hybrid vs non hybrid that he would have noticed, and the suspension.
Sure but nobody was comparing a modified truck vs a stock truck here. Keep your gen2 or buy one if you don’t own one but love it. I’ve had 4 already, I wanted a new Tundra and I’m happy with it. 17 is still in the driveway, it’s going up for sale and will sell easily. It’ was and still is a great truck
I agree with you Johnny. At least test drive it or experience it first. This video captures that perfectly in my opinion. This video was truly as honest and non-bias as it can get. I told Edgar before we shot this video was that I want him to be 100% honest and so will I. I’m sure everyone would appreciate it. Both trucks are great in their own way and at the end of the day, they’re both Toyota 💪🏼
@@TristanGrimaldo Yes I appreciate an honest review! Just tired of hearing so much bad feedback from gen2 owners that haven't even sat in a 22, let alone test drive one. And to be clear when I said "smokes" my 2017 or any of the 4 gen2's I've owned. I don't only mean power and drivetrain. I'ts more then that, personally after having the 22 for 2 months now, going back to my 17 the seats felt really flat, hard, and uncomfortable. Power was less, but my 17 also has 125K KM on it. And just overall the electronics can't compare, the 14" screen, the 360 camera system, how it turns into EV only while parking, moon roof, etc etc. Its just got so much new tech in it, that Im loving. Granted a 21 probably has a little more then my 17, but not enough for me to want a 5th Gen2 21 over a new Gen3 22. And I understand we can't really compare reliabailty yet, but my gen 2's weren't all perfect either. My first Tundra in 2008 had some engine sernsors go bad at very low milage, had to wait 2 months for backorderd parts but had it fixed under warrenty. And my 2012 again from almost new siezd the steering rack up, again coverered under warrenty. So we will see I only have 2600 KM on my 2022 currently, but I have faith in Toyota that they will take care of any potential problems.
@@JohnnyP636 Well said! Everyone loves Toyota for their quality and reliability. It’s too early to tell exactly how reliable it is, but many seem to forget that Toyota built their brand and company on quality and reliability. No vehicle is perfect but they are historically very involved and pro active in quality control. I appreciate Toyota’s efforts to address issues. I personally have never seen this with other brands. Especially Ford 🤣
the green tundra with the 5.7 is my dream truck i currently have a 2008 with the 4.7 engine with 200k miles on it and i love this truck and it got 17.8 mpg combined
Thank you for that Craig! I’ll definitely look into that more and compare it again next time I see Edgar. I was a fan of the larger room in the rear primarily for my family. But honestly even though it’s slightly smaller, it’s still fairly comfortable.
For me is day nine different between one and another one I want to say I’ll keep the new one because always has better have the new one good video take care guys
Good job on getting an old vs new video. Are you on tundra crew on Facebook groups? I was on there from the beginning, like 2015 and got deleted when I had to trade my tundra in for divorce reasons.. sad.. they did that when I helped create that community, but came back in 2022 to buy my tundra.. hoping to get back in that group..
Thank you 🙏. Unfortunately, I’m not a part of any Tundra forums or groups. I used to be involved in a lot of car forums but struggle to find time now a days, especially with this channel. May try to make an effort soon though to connect with other Tundra owners
Thank you! You’ll love your Tundra. Edgar was all smiles and open minded to owning one says a lot. And I 100% agree with you there. Toyota never settles and strives for continuous improvement. As a purist, I wish Toyota would have brought back an updated version of the 2JZ or have their engineers develop their own motor in house.
So I have a 2006 Lancer Evolution 9 (CZcams it if you don't know the car) and it is a beast that makes power. I also had an 2002 S2000 with maybe 200whp. I enjoyed driving the S2000 more because it was more of a purest car than the Evolution 9 which focused on blowing through the 1/4 mile as fast as possible. I find these two trucks in a similar predicament where the 2nd gen is more of a Truck like vehicle while the newer gen is more of an up to date/modern car.
Great example Francisco! Especially because I own a S2000 and you’re absolutely correct. Just a pure driving experience and why I never want to get rid of it. It may not be the fastest, but the experience makes it well worth it.
In person, you don’t see to much of a size difference. In the video, damn I didn’t realize how much smaller it is. My truck looks like a Tacoma next to his TRD Pro lol
I just went to the dealer like 2 weeks ago to buy a new tundra 2022 and to be honest i decide to get a 2021 tundra lunar rock instead of a 2022 cause the 2022 feels more fake on other words to much plastic.and now i lift 4 inches and put new tires and rims and omg looks amazing
AWESOME LOVE BOTH STYLES ❤️ LOVE ❤️ TOYOTA. LOVE MY 2021 TOYOTA TUNDRA LUNAR ROCK TRD PRO WITH 700 MILES ON IT. AND GETTING THE V6 TWIN TURBO TRD PRO AS WE'LL GOD WILLING 🙏
It took me an entire year thinking about trading in my 2020 Tundra. Last month I got a 2022 Tundra 1794 and I love it, only thing is the brake noise and wind noise on a door. Other than that, the 2022 truck is way better…
Thank you! Edgar mentioned he drove the non-hybrid 2022 Tundra and the power difference is night and day. That hybrid motor definitely eliminates any turbo lag. Just a great driving experience. More comparison videos to come so stay tuned. Thank you for watching!
I have a super white 2021 TRD pro, I love the V8 and I get around 14-15mpg. I do wish I have parking sensors and blindside sensors. My 2018 Tacoma TRD off-road with the technology package have everything. An yes I had the longer bed. Wish my tundra TRD pro have the option of a longer bed .
You have a great truck. Seeing Edgar’s truck in person made me appreciate that v8 and it’s simplicity. Your truck will be worth a lot in the long run. Definitely a keeper in my opinion 👍
@@joeyd9547 Thank you! Shooting with Edgar was very natural and we do plan on shooting many more videos together. And yes, I am Filipino and still speak fluently 🙂
@@TristanGrimaldo I know a compadre when I see one. Glad I found your channel and will be following you. I hope to own a Tundra someday as a secondary vehicle to tow a travel trailer.
@@joeyd9547 😁 Thank you Joey! I typically get mistaken for Vietnamese. An older Vietnamese gentleman came up to me at the gym the other day and started speaking to me in his language. I told him I wasn’t Vietnamese and that I was Filipino. He legitimately looked disappointed 🤣. Thank you for your support and if you need any assistance getting a Tundra (either generation) i would contact Bradley (left his contact info below in the description). I even saw a previous gen TRD pro on their lot not too long ago. It’s gone now though lol
Lets be real they’re not really even comparable trucks. They’re so different. The reason people are “hating” on the 22 is cuz of the price. It’s hard to justify 30% more $$$$ when you get 3mpg more and a 5” bigger screen. I love the new truck. Just not enough to double my car payment and trade in my 20 trd.
You make a valid point. I too agree that maybe a lot of the hate may stem from the 2022 Tundra’s price. My situation was different as the last truck I had was an F150. With the previous gen Tundra being such a great truck, I can see why it would be difficult to justify the transition to the new gen. The price for trucks in general have increased tremendously. But yes, both trucks are truck special in their own way and I’ve said it before, the V8 Tundra will increase in price dramatically I am sure. Just a great investment overall.
Why did Toyota make the 3rd Gen smaller? Its big enough for me being 5'4 I sat in one on a Dealer lot. Put a Supercharger on that 2nd Gen would be crazy
The new Tundra is definitely smaller. It drives and handles better for sure! But I’m wondering if it’s because of their new global platform where size had to be sacrificed to develop a more balanced truck
I had a ‘21 TRD PRO and now have a ‘22 Platinum. Outside of some small fit and finish issues, this new model is light years ahead of the old one. That said, the new model absolutely needs a lift and 35’s.
I chose to stay with the 2nd Gen Tundra due to a long history of reliability. The New tundra doesn’t have enough history yet to know if it’s reliable. He definitely didn’t have that 2nd Gen gas pedal pinned to the floor though. They’re no where near that sluggish.
Definitely a tested and proven truck. It had its rough patches along the way as well but Toyota eventually perfected it. It’s Toyota at the end of the day. Their entire reputation is based on reliability which is why I’m not worried. Yes it’s new, but the power train has been utilized in Japan for awhile now. I’m sure with time this new gen will prove to be just as reliable
I have a 20 TRD Pro with a Harrop supercharger. I tested a 22. Love the exterior look hated how it drove and how I felt inside. Significantly smaller and tighter. The center consul is cheap, rattles and doesn’t give you enough padded elbow support.The windshield site line is much lower and the hood is longer. Felt exactly like a cramped Tacoma but just a little bit bigger. I could definitely tell a tiny bit of turbo lag and peaky surging compared to the 5.7. I have more horsepower and more torque than the new model, however the 6 speed sucks for towing, especially on the interstate. I have heard from many credible and renowned reviewers that the fit and finish and quality control is sub par compared to the outgoing model.
Your 20 TRD pro sounds like a beast! I’m sure it sounds great also. Did you drive the iforce or iforce max? Haven’t drove the iforce but I have zero complaints about my hybrid motor honestly. Driven some very powerful vehicles in the past and for a truck, personally impressed with it.
@@TristanGrimaldo it does sound great. It is a little annoying when towing a trailer on the highway and the sound reverberates back in the cab. it was just the ifocre bit the hybrid. I’m sure it drives much better off the line. I’ve heard great things about the 10 speed as well. Everything that I have heard about quality control issues is another big concern for me.
@Tristan Grimaldo Edit: I just tried a Capstone. Liked it but didn’t “love” it. Just feels so different and I was noticing all of the QC flaws I’ve been reading about. Particularly a whistling, wind noise. Off the line that had a lot of pool. But midway in the power band I didn’t seem to notice the torque of the electric motor is much. Definitely hunted for gears. more than my 6 speed. Although I’m sure 10 speed is much better for towing. In a perfect world the new body style and 10 speed transmission with my blown 550/550 motor. That would be a unicorn.
Man I would love to ride in a supercharged V8 Tundra. Only seen videos of them but seems like a lot of fun! And yes mark ups on the TRD pro are horrible. Much worse actually now than when I bought my truck
@@MrAllan875 I have not read up on the forum with anyone really having any issues with the supercharger. Maybe someone who has had one on there tundra will jump in.
@@MrAllan875 My only experience with superchargers are with the S2000 world. Arguably more reliable and easy to maintain. Turbo set ups seem to have more issues. When I get to my s2000 build Im definitely going with a supercharger. A supercharged v8 tundra would be a beast of a truck. Probably sounds awesome too
The v8 engine is proven to be a reliable engine; the twin turbo v6 won’t be known until at least 5 year minimum. One will hurt your pocket book daily on gas and the other one will probably let you know when maintenance time comes up.
Definitely valid points. That v8 is tested and proven. I believe Toyota has been running the motor (I-Force Max) for several years already in Japan. Only time will tell but your points are accurate 🙂
You’re proud that you beat a naturally aspirated V-8 5.7 with your twin turbo v6 but go find yourself a 5.7 with Magnuson on it and you’ll be singing a different tune lol. 😢 but great video I enjoyed watching it.
Oh I’m sure my truck won’t stand a chance. I was able to make my f150 ecoboost quick, but find no interest or purpose in modifying my Tundra for speed 😂
Bro, for many of us Tundra fans, the V6 on 2023 and later, sucks. I don't care about their numbers with twin turbochargers, but diwn the road, those turbochargers are going to cost $$$ when they go out. Plus, lets not forget the stress they put on the engine. Longevity was the Tundras strong suit, but not with a V6 with turbochargers. Those days are gone for Toyota, unless they bring back the V8
Completely understand. But remember, Toyota has been running this powertrain for some time now in Japan. Only time will how reliable this power trains are, but I’m confident that it’s Toyota who engineered it.
Great point Dave. I know this powertrain still needs to prove itself so we’ll see how long-term ownership looks like. I plan on keeping under some sort of warranty at all times.
Give me that naturally aspirated 5.7L V8 any day. Big balls, reliable, sounds mean and is the last of its kind since everyone is going smaller engine with turbos. New gen is smaller truck with a v6, just call it a tacoma instead
I love love!!! The old tundra but one things that bothers me to the core and I can’t get I over is that the back doors are way way!!! to big (long) old engine is unmatched and will out last the new (i think) but I’m getting the new one just because of the old tundra door a just way to big In my opinion and I just can’t get over it… I tried and tried!!! but I can’t get over it
I just traded my 19 tacoma trd pro in for the 19 trd pro tundra. The v8 hands down tows better & the growl of three v8 = smiles per gallon. I do miss my tacoma since i bought it brand new but a used tundra with bulletproof powertrain i won't trade . Also i offroad a ton since i actually use my Toyotas for what they're intended for no mall crawling here 17:0617:08
Before my Tundra, I was looking at a Tacoma TRD pro in lunar rock with a manual transmission. I love Tacomas. Always felt the interior was too small for my needs but the rest of the truck is solid
@@TristanGrimaldo i agree with you but it does come standard with more creature comforts than the tundra pro. Not sure why that is. I really miss my tacoma but i have what i needed for towing & interior space
They are the TRD aluminum cast running boards. I love them! Here is a link to my video reviewing these. The part number is also on the description. m.czcams.com/video/RE1OJ7aLCgs/video.html If you have any further questions don’t hesitate to reach out. Thank you for watching 🙏
Awesome!! Thanks so much for the quick response! Would these hold up well with a little bit of scraping on a trail? I don’t plan to do any crazy off-roading but just want to make sure they won’t fold with a bit of rough driving off-road.
@@Kapes56 No problem! These are well made and are very durable. Significant upgrade from my other running boards. This one is all aluminum. Honestly the best of both worlds. Durability of the rock/slide rails but the ability to utilize as a step. I don’t plan on doing anything too crazy either and these will definitely service it’s purpose
Getting my 22 tundra, going to add rear bumper eventually for getting in/out and front tow hooks. Was going to see if mentioned and it was, the head room of the new truck. How is the visibility looking out?
Hey James! Congrats on your upcoming 2022 Tundra. The visibility in my opinion is a slightly narrower in my opinion. Not sure if it's because of the cabin or head room, but many who have rode shotgun have mentioned something about it. It isn't bad and its acceptable. Honestly, maybe even the bulge from the hood scoop of the 2020 TRD PRO was a little more bothersome. I guess I am not used to it but I found myself constantly staring at the bulge lol
That’s interesting! I wonder if they simply took that space in the rear and transferred it up front to the 2022. I may need to do a video on just measurements of the cabins and break it down.
I had a 2011 Tundra with the 5.7L. Took great care of the truck and in 2019 with 88,000 miles it dropped a valve which destroyed the entire engine. Although a fluke, and expensive one at that, it shows these “simple” engines can and do still fail.
All these "but the turbos will fail" people.... I bet nobody bats an eye about a turbo diesel in terms of reliability (minus the emissions shit). Towing with turbo motors on pump gas is more of a deterrent for me than the reliability of the turbos themselves
V8 STILL KING....You don't pay a full-size truck for mpg.
And the stupid thing is that they didn’t even do it for MPG’s they did it for emissions. Yes they could definitely make the 5.7 get better mileage, maybe an 8 speed tranny or even different gears, IMO. But I still love my 21 and wouldn’t trade it for a 3rd gen.
V8 down on power, it's a dog. Sounds great, goes nowhere....
Amazing experience getting to drive your 22 TRD pro brother! Thank you for such a great video friend! Can't wait to create more content with our trucks!
Awesome meeting you Edgar! Looking forward to future content with you
22s we’re having a lot of problems mechanically. I think 24s are better.
My favorite tundra video by far!
I’m in the market for a TRD Pro and I’m leaning towards the 2021, can’t go wrong with the simplicity and huge cab and the amazing durable and reliable V8. Both trucks are beautiful though, love me a Toyota!
Thank you Jesus! 🙂Many more comparison videos featuring Edgar to come. Stay tuned 😉
Hope you'll get one. I just purchased a 2020 TRD pro few days ago and I love it.
I just bought a 2021 SR5 CrewMax and the interior space is huge!!! My family loves it! No way I’d buy the new gen for my family.
The old one actually looks really good. More muscular. Plus it’s a V8. What’s troubling is that the new 2022 was taken of the list of reliability consumer magazine.
The previous generation is definitely a great looking truck! For the 2022 reliability, every vehicle will have their issues initially. Even the previous generation tundra had its issues early on. Time will tell to see how reliable or unreliable the new generation is. I have no intent of getting rid of my truck so I can be the test subject lol
Sitting in my 2020 army green tundra trd pro watching this on lunch break
That's awesome!
I am actually surprised how visually you can tell the new truck is smaller. As a former Ecoboost owner who had the turbos go out on me in the middle of Oklahoma with a trailer I had to abandon so I could limp mode it 2 1/2 hours at 30 mph to the nearest Ford dealership and spend $6,000 to fix…naturally aspirerated motors only for me.
The truck is definitely smaller. Actually didn’t pay much attention to it on the video till you pointed it out. In person, the difference wasn’t as significant as it appears on the video lol. I too previously owned an EcoBoost so I can relate 🤣
Wow that's like the worst moment for it to happen, but it makes sense as towing is a high load scenario that would stress the engine.
Now that the new Mustang and Super Duty are out we can at least say that the new 6.8L V8 will very likely never be used in anything else than the HD trucks. A shame because that motor is brilliant but it will get worse fuel economy than the 5.0 so that's the reason. It has better outputs though with 405 hp (vs 400) and 445 lb-ft (vs 410) of torque. Ford chose that design for maximum realistic reliability while still delivering fuel economy (to make it even more reliable you'd have to remove EFI and make it fully mechanical with that simple PFI OHV engine, which kills fuel economy and outputs). F-250 is a big step up from F-150 so this is gonna be dicey.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 If I was to buy a F-250 I would only get the 7.3L V8. The diesel is over kill and extremely pricey to buy and to maintain. The 6.8L V8 to me is a waste. What's the point when it is many ways almost as good as the 7.3 but isn't as good. Either way the 7.3L V8 Godzilla is an incredible motor so far.
@@TristanGrimaldo Ford does a terrible job letting you know what is required to own a twin turbo motor. I hope Toyota is doing a better job.
First, they don't tell you that you have to do a TDI service every 30-40k (turbo direct injection) to clean out the built up carbon. If you don't do that it can kill your motor over time.
Second, you have to change out the barrings every 80,000 miles and they are not cheap. It was around $600 on that F-150 I owned.
Third, if you do a lot of towing your turbos will wear out prematurely. I got to 153,000'ish miles when they blew and that was it. All said and done I don't think I got any better gas, and infact I got worse mpg towing. Averaged around 7.5-9.5 mpg. Just awful.
@@SuperSnakePlissken Agreed.
Very good review guys. One thing I'd like to point out is that while other commentors spoke of the V8's reliability, I don't think anyone mentioned longevity. The V8 regularly goes over 300K miles. Many people buy Toyota with the intention of keeping it a long time. I'm currently driving a 2008 Tundra 5.7L with 160,000 miles. I'd like to know what the lifespan is on the hybrid batteries and what it would cost to replace them. Overall great review on both trucks.
Very good point! The V8 has proven itself to reach 300k miles or more consistently. This being a new powertrain, that has yet to be seen. My confidence in Toyota there and the closest resemblance in its potential would be the Prius (which I own). Prius are known to hit 300k miles easily as well and even some million mile Prius out there also. Batteries can be replaced but the motor's Toyota engineers develop are designed to remain consistent with their brand and reputation. I can't say the same for the Supra and its BMW motor though lol
You don’t have to opt for the hybrid
If you own a Tundra you should know about the tow/haul button. It adds to the experience
Thank you for this comparison. It’s good to see actual Tundra owners prospective. One thing I would like to add is the price delta of $15k more for the 2022 Tundra PRO vs 2021 PRO. That on MSRP, not counting crazy markups
Thank you! 🙏. The 2022 TRD pro definitely comes at a higher price point excluding all the mark ups and dealer add-ons. But personally, I do see why. The 2022 Tundra’s technology & features surpasses the previous generation. But that’s what also makes the previous generation amazing. It’s simplicity 🙂. Many more comparison videos to come featuring Edgar and his 2020 Army Green TRD Pro Tundra. Stay tuned 😎
Bro your 2020 is bulletproof, it's already worth a lot!!!
I think this was a very fair comparison. I'm a 20 TRD Pro owner and I absolutely love my truck. There are a lot of things I also like about the new Gen Pros. That must have been fun getting to drive both trucks! Well done, guys.
Thank you John! It was definitely awesome getting the opportunity to drive each other’s trucks! Each are awesome in their own special way! More comparison videos to come 😉
@@TristanGrimaldo Looking forward to it.
It's a tough one but you guys did a great job pointing the good and the bad. Honest opinion all around.
As you mentioned, interior space and the V8 is something that's hard to step away from. By the way, beautiful TRD Pro!!! the only trim that looks on the re-design!
Thank you David! Honestly, I loved Edgar’s truck. I told Edgar this that in the long run, his TRD pro is going to be worth a lot of money no doubt about it. Something about the simplicity of it that I loved. Personally if I could own both I would 😁
@@TristanGrimaldo :) yes sir. Having both would be a perfect world. Who knows, maybe one day they'll decide to come out with a limited run of the TRD Pro with a V8. You just never know.
@@davidbonnet9614 You never know but man how awesome that would be! Ford did it with the Raptor R
@@TristanGrimaldo that’s exactly what I was thinking. Hey we can always hope :)
What I like about the naturally aspirated V8 is its proven reliability. I don't see the V6 twin turbo matching the V8 when it comes to reliability. But hey only time will tell, it's a Toyota after all.
Completely agree with you! Only time will tell to see how this new powertrain holds up. But I have the upmost confidence in Toyota.
Previous gen owner here, I was telling everyone that the crew cab is much smaller on the new Tundra, now they know for real! Also love the fact that the rear seats can recline before they took that option away. Anyways, the new look is cool looking compared. Good vid guys! 👍👍
Definitely a noticeable difference! Not to say the new one isn’t roomy or comfortable. Just surprised how much smaller it is compared to the older generation. Thanks for watching!
Two bad ass rides,definitely 👍🏼💪🏼
Win win either way in my opinion. 😎🔥
@@TristanGrimaldo I have a 2020 Trd pro same color as Edgar, I love the interior space but me being a single dad with a seven-year-old, I don’t need much huge space in the back of a crew max anyway.When my lease is up I am going to go look for the 2022-2023 Trd pro as my upgrade you can’t beat the mileage compared to the V-8. The way I see it got to move with the times.How close was the 0 to 60 sprint with the tow haul mode on compared to your truck? You said it felt similar on the video but how much similar? I havn’t drove a 2022 yet. I never cared about top speed but what counts for me is from a dead stop 0-60 zip. I wish the 2022 had the same hight as the 2020 if not maybe a little higher but other than that,that’s a perfect truck for me.👍🏼💪🏼Albert from the Los Angeles area
@@Albert-777 Hey Albert! I’m a regular in LA and Cali. Have family there and in the Bay Area. To answer your question, when Edgar had me press the tow haul mode button, the throttle felt more sensitive and responsive. It also seemed to hold the gear longer. But you also saw Edgar’s reaction to driving my TRD Pro. Crazy thing is it wasn’t even in sport mode which I guess would be equivalent to that tow haul mode button. I tried a 0-60 run with an app and if I remember correctly it put up 6.3 seconds? Overall, you will love the I-Force Max. I have not met someone who has said anything about the driving experience of the I-Force Max. Toyota honestly did a great job using the electric motor to fill in the dips in the power and torque curve. Puts a smile on my face every time. Thank you for watching and if you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to reach out.
@@TristanGrimaldo Thank you for the reply I totally appreciate it.👍🏼ps maybe one day I’ll run into you in the LA area.(Whittier)👍🏼💪🏼stay safe out there 😎
Nice comparison. Glad to see both of you enjoying the other’s truck.
Thank you! 🙏 I really enjoyed driving his v8.
I’m still looking at getting the 2021 TRD PRO used over the new model! The Cabin space & overall body style is my main stays. If I could get mpg of the hybrid & infotainment of the current gen paired with previous gen it would be perfect!!
Can’t go wrong with that decision. It’s a great truck!
Dang the older model looks Bigger and better. The Green one is Beast
The previous gen TRD pro is definitely a beautiful truck. Has a timeless look. The new gen look definitely isn’t for everyone lol
2020 Platinum owner here, considering going to a new gen. Funny intro and great video that helps me understand the differences.
Thank you Eric! Glad you found video informative and entertaining. If you have any questions to help you with your decision please don’t hesitate to reach out. Thank you for watching.
Man I’m watching this video and saw the restaurant depot right away and thought “no way this isn’t where I think it is” and then I see 249 on the screen and then little woodrows 😂😂😂 man what a small world. Great video guys still up in the air for me on what to get but definitely got good info
Lmao!! Small world indeed! You’re definitely 💯 accurate on the location. That’s too funny 🤣. Thank you for watching! And if you have any questions don’t hesitate to reach out. More videos to come with Edgar.
Finally a real comparison review! I knew and have always told everyone its smaller. I like the way the 22 looks but toyota dropped the ball trying to make it look prettier than functional. 21 for the WIN!
Thank you! A lot of great videos out there reviewing the new Tundra, but it’s always more credible hearing it from a true owner’s perspective. Stay tuned for a short that I’ll be recording that compares media reviews vs. real owner reviews. I’m going to have fun with that one 🤣. Honestly after driving Edgar’s truck, personally I wouldn’t mind owning a V8 too lol.
@@TristanGrimaldo still love the 22 wish it couldve been bigger. I Dont even mind the V6 TT honestly. But as a family of 6 i needed that Crewmax 6 seater 4x4 (Rare) so i had to drop 40k cash on a good deal lol. 2015 SuperWhite SR5 with Trd Off Road package. ive already made the seats Red, blacked out all emblems. 5% tint lumar all around, lots of lighting, i left my 32 inch lightbar switch same place as the 22 lol. Im about to install a DB Customz grill in the future. Next up im waiting on my 3 inch lift with Falken MT’s 35x12.5x17 on rock warrior wheels 😅. Since i couldnt buy a pro with 6 seats had to make tbe Sr5 look like a Pro.
@@18HunnidBK your truck sounds awesome! My F150 was a 6 seater and my front bench seat actually came in handy haha. But honestly either way you go, the new Tundra in my opinion is a great truck. Yes it’s not perfect but Toyota is proactive and very involved. If I didn’t have the TRD pro, I would have heavily modified my Tundra (volks, overland gear, etc.) lol.
Thanks for the video. I test drove a new 24' limited with the TRD package and really liked it. I'm going to test drive at 21' TRD Pro tomorrow that's for sale at a great price. We'll see.
I love the 2nd gen Tundra passing you in the ‘22 at 16:10
I just noticed that! 😁 perfect timing to pass by and get his truck in the shot
I just HATE how they made the TOYOTA scrip just a bit bigger. It looks so wrong now. It was NEVER big on any Toyota before these. I really dislike Toyota for following along this stupid trend of making super tacky editions.
I personally don’t mind it. As long as they don’t get carried away like BMW has with their grilles 🤣
Bad ass video!
Y’all should compare.
Gas mileage!
Off-road!
Towing!
Thank you! 🙏 We discussed this and plan on doing tons of direct comparison videos for everyone. Stay tuned 😎
Great video guys putting both gen’s in perspective . Can’t go wrong with either truck , but damn that 2022 lunar rock 🔥
Thank you! 🙏. Both are beautiful trucks indeed. Lunar rock is definitely a beautiful color! Sometimes compliments go more towards the color than the actual truck 😁. Many more comparison videos to come. Stay tuned 😎
Great video hunny! Love the intro and the fact that you guys made a video together! That’s awesome!
Thank you honey!
I would rather spend my money on a previous tundra and throw a 7k supercharger at it to make up for that torque 💪 💪 💪
That would be a truck I personally would want to own also lol
Best comparison review I have seen yet great job guys.
Thank you! 🙏. Many more to come featuring Edgar. Stay tuned and thank you for watching!
As far as longevity with the newer Gen truck it’s not if the turbos go out it’s when. I don’t care who makes it, at some point it’s going to be an expensive fix. But I did sit in the new Gen truck at the dealer when I bought my 21 Tundra Voodoo in Bourne TX. It was the highest trim level called Capstone.
Man I’ll tell you it’s the most amazing interior I’ve ever sat inside. Hopefully Toyota brings back a smaller V8. My 2021 Tundra will be on the road for years.
The powertrain has been used in Japan for quite sometime even before releasing it to us in the states. I agree with your concerns but only time will tell. I expected the same from my F150 ecoboost but that thing was around 150k miles maybe before I sold it and never had issues with the turbo 🙂.
This is what every gen 3 naysayer needs to do, actually test drive the truck. I cant speak for the the non hybrid, but my 22 TRD PRO smokes my 16 and 17 TRD PRO. They do have the V8 sound/rumble, I can not deny on the outside the V8 does sound better. That and the better turning radius on the older gen, everything else on the 22 I like better. Good on you for letting somone test drive it, I think he was open minded and honest too.
My neibours relatives were over their house on Thanksgiving he had a 22 limited with TRD package non hybrid. I tired to get him to test it but he said no I'm good its the same truck. I was like not really man, but he just wouldnt take the offer. Im sure there is a pretty significant difference hybrid vs non hybrid that he would have noticed, and the suspension.
Any 16 and 17 with supercharger says otherwise. No 22 can smoke the supercharger Tundra.
Sure but nobody was comparing a modified truck vs a stock truck here. Keep your gen2 or buy one if you don’t own one but love it. I’ve had 4 already, I wanted a new Tundra and I’m happy with it. 17 is still in the driveway, it’s going up for sale and will sell easily. It’ was and still is a great truck
I agree with you Johnny. At least test drive it or experience it first. This video captures that perfectly in my opinion. This video was truly as honest and non-bias as it can get. I told Edgar before we shot this video was that I want him to be 100% honest and so will I. I’m sure everyone would appreciate it. Both trucks are great in their own way and at the end of the day, they’re both Toyota 💪🏼
@@TristanGrimaldo Yes I appreciate an honest review! Just tired of hearing so much bad feedback from gen2 owners that haven't even sat in a 22, let alone test drive one.
And to be clear when I said "smokes" my 2017 or any of the 4 gen2's I've owned. I don't only mean power and drivetrain. I'ts more then that, personally after having the 22 for 2 months now, going back to my 17 the seats felt really flat, hard, and uncomfortable. Power was less, but my 17 also has 125K KM on it. And just overall the electronics can't compare, the 14" screen, the 360 camera system, how it turns into EV only while parking, moon roof, etc etc. Its just got so much new tech in it, that Im loving. Granted a 21 probably has a little more then my 17, but not enough for me to want a 5th Gen2 21 over a new Gen3 22.
And I understand we can't really compare reliabailty yet, but my gen 2's weren't all perfect either. My first Tundra in 2008 had some engine sernsors go bad at very low milage, had to wait 2 months for backorderd parts but had it fixed under warrenty. And my 2012 again from almost new siezd the steering rack up, again coverered under warrenty. So we will see I only have 2600 KM on my 2022 currently, but I have faith in Toyota that they will take care of any potential problems.
@@JohnnyP636 Well said! Everyone loves Toyota for their quality and reliability. It’s too early to tell exactly how reliable it is, but many seem to forget that Toyota built their brand and company on quality and reliability. No vehicle is perfect but they are historically very involved and pro active in quality control. I appreciate Toyota’s efforts to address issues. I personally have never seen this with other brands. Especially Ford 🤣
The 2022 is not even in the same league as the 2020. Not even close.
I think each are special in their own way and each have an advantage over each other in different aspects. But either way, great trucks from Toyota
Good video bros, just came across your buddies channel and then ended up here!
Thank you! 🤙🏻
the green tundra with the 5.7 is my dream truck i currently have a 2008 with the 4.7 engine with 200k miles on it and i love this truck and it got 17.8 mpg combined
It’s a beautiful truck!
Great video. Both trucks look amazing.
Thank you Mike! More videos to come with Edgar. Stay tuned 😎
Tristan the back door of the 2020 is bigger than the 2022, but the hood of the 2022 is longer that's the difference
Thank you for that Craig! I’ll definitely look into that more and compare it again next time I see Edgar. I was a fan of the larger room in the rear primarily for my family. But honestly even though it’s slightly smaller, it’s still fairly comfortable.
For me is day nine different between one and another one I want to say I’ll keep the new one because always has better have the new one good video take care guys
I do love my truck and a huge fan of the newer gen Tundra 😁. Thank you for watching 👍
Agree, 2022 tundra way smaller inside. the only pros is the MPG, steering and suspension, super smooth. 20 mpg on highway.
get 19 in my wifes 21 there only about 1 mpg better all around
Aside from the smaller interior cabin, there are just so many things I love about my truck and you pointed out some key features 👍
Good job on getting an old vs new video. Are you on tundra crew on Facebook groups? I was on there from the beginning, like 2015 and got deleted when I had to trade my tundra in for divorce reasons.. sad.. they did that when I helped create that community, but came back in 2022 to buy my tundra.. hoping to get back in that group..
Thank you 🙏. Unfortunately, I’m not a part of any Tundra forums or groups. I used to be involved in a lot of car forums but struggle to find time now a days, especially with this channel. May try to make an effort soon though to connect with other Tundra owners
I feel Toyota always steps up. Not down. Except for the supra. They fuct up there. Lol. Nice trucks good video. Can't wait to get on next year!!
Thank you! You’ll love your Tundra. Edgar was all smiles and open minded to owning one says a lot. And I 100% agree with you there. Toyota never settles and strives for continuous improvement. As a purist, I wish Toyota would have brought back an updated version of the 2JZ or have their engineers develop their own motor in house.
So I have a 2006 Lancer Evolution 9 (CZcams it if you don't know the car) and it is a beast that makes power. I also had an 2002 S2000 with maybe 200whp. I enjoyed driving the S2000 more because it was more of a purest car than the Evolution 9 which focused on blowing through the 1/4 mile as fast as possible. I find these two trucks in a similar predicament where the 2nd gen is more of a Truck like vehicle while the newer gen is more of an up to date/modern car.
Great example Francisco! Especially because I own a S2000 and you’re absolutely correct. Just a pure driving experience and why I never want to get rid of it. It may not be the fastest, but the experience makes it well worth it.
@@TristanGrimaldo I had an AP1 and that 9,000rpm thrill is addictive.
@@franciscocruz6726 I have an AP1 as well! I drove an AP2 and that 9k redline is where its at
I like v8 bertter
Many do 👍
Agreed like the older hood,should carry over to the new 2022 tundra
2020 looks like a monster! 2022 lost some weight!
In person, you don’t see to much of a size difference. In the video, damn I didn’t realize how much smaller it is. My truck looks like a Tacoma next to his TRD Pro lol
I like how the new gen guy mentioned all the body roll cuz I will admit my 2014 is not good In the corners
I just went to the dealer like 2 weeks ago to buy a new tundra 2022 and to be honest i decide to get a 2021 tundra lunar rock instead of a 2022 cause the 2022 feels more fake on other words to much plastic.and now i lift 4 inches and put new tires and rims and omg looks amazing
There is definitely more plastic than I would want in the interior, but nothing that truly bothers me. Congrats on your purchase!
AWESOME LOVE BOTH STYLES ❤️
LOVE ❤️ TOYOTA.
LOVE MY 2021 TOYOTA TUNDRA LUNAR ROCK TRD PRO WITH 700 MILES ON IT.
AND GETTING THE V6 TWIN TURBO TRD PRO AS WE'LL GOD WILLING 🙏
Nice! Hope it all works out for you
It took me an entire year thinking about trading in my 2020 Tundra. Last month I got a 2022 Tundra 1794 and I love it, only thing is the brake noise and wind noise on a door. Other than that, the 2022 truck is way better…
That’s awesome!! Congratulations and glad you’re enjoying your truck!
Great video but I can’t help but think of what the turbo lag in lower models would do to the comparison.
Thank you! Edgar mentioned he drove the non-hybrid 2022 Tundra and the power difference is night and day. That hybrid motor definitely eliminates any turbo lag. Just a great driving experience. More comparison videos to come so stay tuned. Thank you for watching!
I have a super white 2021 TRD pro, I love the V8 and I get around 14-15mpg. I do wish I have parking sensors and blindside sensors. My 2018 Tacoma TRD off-road with the technology package have everything. An yes I had the longer bed. Wish my tundra TRD pro have the option of a longer bed .
You have a great truck. Seeing Edgar’s truck in person made me appreciate that v8 and it’s simplicity. Your truck will be worth a lot in the long run. Definitely a keeper in my opinion 👍
Previous Gen , V8💪🏼
Great video😊
Thank you!
Great comparison videos guys!👍🏽👍🏽How about doing video comparing the two towing a travel trailer?🙏🙏
Thank you! 🙏We will definitely consider all request for content and try to make it happen. A new dynamic duo may have just formed 😎
@@TristanGrimaldo You guys make a good team. BTW I was curious if you are Filipino?
@@joeyd9547 Thank you! Shooting with Edgar was very natural and we do plan on shooting many more videos together. And yes, I am Filipino and still speak fluently 🙂
@@TristanGrimaldo I know a compadre when I see one. Glad I found your channel and will be following you. I hope to own a Tundra someday as a secondary vehicle to tow a travel trailer.
@@joeyd9547 😁 Thank you Joey! I typically get mistaken for Vietnamese. An older Vietnamese gentleman came up to me at the gym the other day and started speaking to me in his language. I told him I wasn’t Vietnamese and that I was Filipino. He legitimately looked disappointed 🤣. Thank you for your support and if you need any assistance getting a Tundra (either generation) i would contact Bradley (left his contact info below in the description). I even saw a previous gen TRD pro on their lot not too long ago. It’s gone now though lol
The old gen is a better looking truck. Toyota should have offered a v8 with A 10speed trans
The previous gen tundra is definitely a great looking truck!
Lets be real they’re not really even comparable trucks. They’re so different. The reason people are “hating” on the 22 is cuz of the price. It’s hard to justify 30% more $$$$ when you get 3mpg more and a 5” bigger screen. I love the new truck. Just not enough to double my car payment and trade in my 20 trd.
You make a valid point. I too agree that maybe a lot of the hate may stem from the 2022 Tundra’s price. My situation was different as the last truck I had was an F150. With the previous gen Tundra being such a great truck, I can see why it would be difficult to justify the transition to the new gen. The price for trucks in general have increased tremendously. But yes, both trucks are truck special in their own way and I’ve said it before, the V8 Tundra will increase in price dramatically I am sure. Just a great investment overall.
Why did Toyota make the 3rd Gen smaller? Its big enough for me being 5'4 I sat in one on a Dealer lot. Put a Supercharger on that 2nd Gen would be crazy
The new Tundra is definitely smaller. It drives and handles better for sure! But I’m wondering if it’s because of their new global platform where size had to be sacrificed to develop a more balanced truck
I had a ‘21 TRD PRO and now have a ‘22 Platinum. Outside of some small fit and finish issues, this new model is light years ahead of the old one. That said, the new model absolutely needs a lift and 35’s.
I chose to stay with the 2nd Gen Tundra due to a long history of reliability. The New tundra doesn’t have enough history yet to know if it’s reliable. He definitely didn’t have that 2nd Gen gas pedal pinned to the floor though. They’re no where near that sluggish.
Definitely a tested and proven truck. It had its rough patches along the way as well but Toyota eventually perfected it. It’s Toyota at the end of the day. Their entire reputation is based on reliability which is why I’m not worried. Yes it’s new, but the power train has been utilized in Japan for awhile now. I’m sure with time this new gen will prove to be just as reliable
I have a 20 TRD Pro with a Harrop supercharger. I tested a 22. Love the exterior look hated how it drove and how I felt inside. Significantly smaller and tighter. The center consul is cheap, rattles and doesn’t give you enough padded elbow support.The windshield site line is much lower and the hood is longer. Felt exactly like a cramped Tacoma but just a little bit bigger. I could definitely tell a tiny bit of turbo lag and peaky surging compared to the 5.7. I have more horsepower and more torque than the new model, however the 6 speed sucks for towing, especially on the interstate. I have heard from many credible and renowned reviewers that the fit and finish and quality control is sub par compared to the outgoing model.
Your 20 TRD pro sounds like a beast! I’m sure it sounds great also. Did you drive the iforce or iforce max? Haven’t drove the iforce but I have zero complaints about my hybrid motor honestly. Driven some very powerful vehicles in the past and for a truck, personally impressed with it.
@@TristanGrimaldo it does sound great. It is a little annoying when towing a trailer on the highway and the sound reverberates back in the cab. it was just the ifocre bit the hybrid. I’m sure it drives much better off the line. I’ve heard great things about the 10 speed as well. Everything that I have heard about quality control issues is another big concern for me.
@Tristan Grimaldo Edit: I just tried a Capstone. Liked it but didn’t “love” it. Just feels so different and I was noticing all of the QC flaws I’ve been reading about. Particularly a whistling, wind noise. Off the line that had a lot of pool. But midway in the power band I didn’t seem to notice the torque of the electric motor is much. Definitely hunted for gears. more than my 6 speed. Although I’m sure 10 speed is much better for towing. In a perfect world the new body style and 10 speed transmission with my blown 550/550 motor. That would be a unicorn.
Add supercharger to the V8 and really get the wow factor. I know it’s costly. But the mark ups on the new tundra Pro is crazy.
Man I would love to ride in a supercharged V8 Tundra. Only seen videos of them but seems like a lot of fun! And yes mark ups on the TRD pro are horrible. Much worse actually now than when I bought my truck
Doesn’t the supercharger affect reliability
@@MrAllan875 I have not read up on the forum with anyone really having any issues with the supercharger. Maybe someone who has had one on there tundra will jump in.
@@MrAllan875 My only experience with superchargers are with the S2000 world. Arguably more reliable and easy to maintain. Turbo set ups seem to have more issues. When I get to my s2000 build Im definitely going with a supercharger. A supercharged v8 tundra would be a beast of a truck. Probably sounds awesome too
we all know who won the exhaust rev war 😆
I definitely took the L there 🤣
I appreciate reliability. I'm not spending 70k on a truck that is not reliable. If you have the money for that go for it
Both trucks look great!
I'll keep my 2019 thank you very much.
I thought he was sitting in a car seat when driving the 22 lol
Lol
The v8 engine is proven to be a reliable engine; the twin turbo v6 won’t be known until at least 5 year minimum. One will hurt your pocket book daily on gas and the other one will probably let you know when maintenance time comes up.
Definitely valid points. That v8 is tested and proven. I believe Toyota has been running the motor (I-Force Max) for several years already in Japan. Only time will tell but your points are accurate 🙂
From what I hear the v6 is not doing much better on mpg … 1-2 mpg better, very disappointing
You’re proud that you beat a naturally aspirated V-8 5.7 with your twin turbo v6 but go find yourself a 5.7 with Magnuson on it and you’ll be singing a different tune lol. 😢 but great video I enjoyed watching it.
Oh I’m sure my truck won’t stand a chance. I was able to make my f150 ecoboost quick, but find no interest or purpose in modifying my Tundra for speed 😂
I get ya, but I supercharged mine for more pulling power plus it's so much fun again love the channel keep up the good work
@@Matt-tf1wz I knew a guy with a supercharged tundra. It was the single cab too. Thing ran 12s lol
Bro, for many of us Tundra fans, the V6 on 2023 and later, sucks. I don't care about their numbers with twin turbochargers, but diwn the road, those turbochargers are going to cost $$$ when they go out. Plus, lets not forget the stress they put on the engine. Longevity was the Tundras strong suit, but not with a V6 with turbochargers. Those days are gone for Toyota, unless they bring back the V8
Completely understand. But remember, Toyota has been running this powertrain for some time now in Japan. Only time will how reliable this power trains are, but I’m confident that it’s Toyota who engineered it.
Great comparison
I like them both for different reasons. I'd never buy anything 1st gen with turbos.
Great point Dave. I know this powertrain still needs to prove itself so we’ll see how long-term ownership looks like. I plan on keeping under some sort of warranty at all times.
Solid video guys
Thank you Javier!
If the V8 had 10 speed that would have been the best. love the v8 but also love the new dash and infotainment system. So its hard to chose right now.
If the V8 had a 10 speed it would be a beast!
Give me that naturally aspirated 5.7L V8 any day. Big balls, reliable, sounds mean and is the last of its kind since everyone is going smaller engine with turbos. New gen is smaller truck with a v6, just call it a tacoma instead
The older gen Tundra is definitely a gem ❤️
I love love!!! The old tundra but one things that bothers me to the core and I can’t get I over is that the back doors are way way!!! to big (long) old engine is unmatched and will out last the new (i think) but I’m getting the new one just because of the old tundra door a just way to big In my opinion and I just can’t get over it… I tried and tried!!! but I can’t get over it
Now that you mention it didn’t realize just how long the rear doors are! They don’t look bad but yes they are long lol.
I just traded my 19 tacoma trd pro in for the 19 trd pro tundra. The v8 hands down tows better & the growl of three v8 = smiles per gallon. I do miss my tacoma since i bought it brand new but a used tundra with bulletproof powertrain i won't trade . Also i offroad a ton since i actually use my Toyotas for what they're intended for no mall crawling here 17:06 17:08
Before my Tundra, I was looking at a Tacoma TRD pro in lunar rock with a manual transmission. I love Tacomas. Always felt the interior was too small for my needs but the rest of the truck is solid
@@TristanGrimaldo i agree with you but it does come standard with more creature comforts than the tundra pro. Not sure why that is. I really miss my tacoma but i have what i needed for towing & interior space
V8 powa towing is where youll see a difference as well.
I think the older one has only one sway bar on the back. The new one has front and back.
I think you’re right. But overall, we both noticed the newer gen definitely handles better. But comfort is similar
Nice video.
Thank you 👍
I’d love to know what those sliders are on the 22 Tundra and where I can get them. They look a lot like the step on the Raptor and I love that.
They are the TRD aluminum cast running boards. I love them! Here is a link to my video reviewing these. The part number is also on the description.
m.czcams.com/video/RE1OJ7aLCgs/video.html
If you have any further questions don’t hesitate to reach out. Thank you for watching 🙏
Awesome!! Thanks so much for the quick response! Would these hold up well with a little bit of scraping on a trail? I don’t plan to do any crazy off-roading but just want to make sure they won’t fold with a bit of rough driving off-road.
@@Kapes56 No problem! These are well made and are very durable. Significant upgrade from my other running boards. This one is all aluminum. Honestly the best of both worlds. Durability of the rock/slide rails but the ability to utilize as a step. I don’t plan on doing anything too crazy either and these will definitely service it’s purpose
So… not sliders.
The old V8 is tried and true engine. Its in the Land Cruiser and tundra. The price of the 21 will increase next couple of years because it will.
Completely agree with you! No doubt the v8 will be more valuable in the near future.
I own a 21 TRD pro. But man that 22 just makes me wanna buy a raptor so bad.
Can’t go wrong with the Raptor 👍👍
Just add a supercharger in the V8 and redo a race! Also you can add a rear locker!
That gen 3 exhaust sounds like someone with a bad cold
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either way you go "TOYOTA #1"!!!!!!!!
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My TRD '10 has the handle. Wonder why not that one
I believe they removed that handle in the 2020 Tundra. It’s a very useful feature that helps you get in and out of your truck easier
But did edgar have it in tow/haul mode on the race lol
😂 I raced my friend’s 2020 Tundra and honestly not sure if he had tow haul mode on haha. Who wants to see Edgar and I race at the drag strip? 😎
@Kevin Kwas discussing this with Edgar the other day. We will make it happen in the near future 🙂
The cabin is probably smaller because of that long hood
Could be!
V8 any day 👍 turbo V6 is garbage 👎
V8 is nice. V6 isn’t too bad 😉. The twin turbo hybrid makes it more acceptable
The point to the new gen was to be more economical and efficient ....hence smaller cab lighter truck
Economical at $60,000 baseline and no substantial mpg improvement.
The one with the v8 wins
It’s a great truck indeed 💪🏼
Getting my 22 tundra, going to add rear bumper eventually for getting in/out and front tow hooks.
Was going to see if mentioned and it was, the head room of the new truck. How is the visibility looking out?
Hey James! Congrats on your upcoming 2022 Tundra. The visibility in my opinion is a slightly narrower in my opinion. Not sure if it's because of the cabin or head room, but many who have rode shotgun have mentioned something about it. It isn't bad and its acceptable. Honestly, maybe even the bulge from the hood scoop of the 2020 TRD PRO was a little more bothersome. I guess I am not used to it but I found myself constantly staring at the bulge lol
@@TristanGrimaldo Thanks Tristan! Liked noticeable but acceptable, keep on uploading!
I have a 2022 and my friend has a 2020 and when he sits in the 2022 driver seat he has more leg room
weird since the 21 has more legroom by dimension
That’s interesting! I wonder if they simply took that space in the rear and transferred it up front to the 2022. I may need to do a video on just measurements of the cabins and break it down.
@@TristanGrimaldo no the new one is smaller all around , must just be his perception. new one is 41.2 old is 42.5 front leg room
@@kidamere2408 Gotcha. Thank you for those measurements. Definitely feels smaller for sure.
Lol great video 😅
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I had a 2011 Tundra with the 5.7L. Took great care of the truck and in 2019 with 88,000 miles it dropped a valve which destroyed the entire engine. Although a fluke, and expensive one at that, it shows these “simple” engines can and do still fail.
Thank you for sharing! I had a friend who also had significant issues with his Tundra. They’re not common but they do happen.
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Brandon! Enjoying that $50 Starbucks gift card? 😁👍
All these "but the turbos will fail" people.... I bet nobody bats an eye about a turbo diesel in terms of reliability (minus the emissions shit).
Towing with turbo motors on pump gas is more of a deterrent for me than the reliability of the turbos themselves
Not a fan of the new grill.
It’s a hit or miss for sure. I actually like it 🙂
Did you guys or anyone notice if the new Tundra 2022 was longer than the older version?
I did not. But based on what we saw it seems like the older one is definitely bigger
All you need to do is supercharge the V8 with a magnasun and presto you’re gonna smile for miles!
definitely sounds a like a lot of fun! More curious on how it sounds!
What about the ride offroad and highway cruising?
Haven’t had much time for off road. Highway cruising it’s great