Goat Format Tier List: Easiest to Hardest

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  • čas přidán 6. 11. 2022
  • A Goat Format tier list with a twist. What are the easiest and hardest decks to learn to play in Goat Format?
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Komentáře • 52

  • @ShineDawg
    @ShineDawg Před rokem +11

    Perfect video for a slow learner like me. Thanks for everything, I love goat format but suck. I'm old but love Yu-Gi-Oh. Thanks again, and if I'm ever a pain or ask a bad question in a live I apologize. All the best!

  • @clayvision
    @clayvision Před 11 měsíci +3

    You know I just found this, and after playing goat control for the first time in forever, I finally have a good description as to why goat control is difficult
    Scapegoat is a deceptively difficult card to play in my opinion, and like you said, it's a deck with a lot of options that are situational and have potential, but on the whole worse in raw card quality, in addition, you probably only have room in your build for 1 of each of those situationally powerful cards

  • @bobthebuilder9416
    @bobthebuilder9416 Před rokem

    I love the long format layout man. Thanks for the post

  • @epiphoneboy2000
    @epiphoneboy2000 Před rokem +2

    Great vid! Could you do a list like this based on building difficulty?

  • @thesmilingvagrants
    @thesmilingvagrants Před rokem +1

    The other thing about chaos turbo that I don't think you mentioned is the fact that you generally are winning in less
    turns compared to playing a control deck. There's more draw cards which are usually pretty straight forward and the
    more turns the more chances there are for misplays.
    I think you're right about warriors. I used to play anti meta back in the day (2010-2011 modern yugioh)
    Alot of it is just normal summon a monster and set stuff which is why people think it's easy. In that regard it is but then you have to figure out when and where to
    burn your resources. So as far as what you do on you're own turn it's not super complex. How you respond to what you're opponent is doing can be which is why
    I see putting warriors in average. You're comment about the turn 1 blade knight is a good point. Most don't want to set sangan/serpent for fear of crossout
    but if they know you're running blade knight, mystic swordsman lv2 etc. then they're going to start trying to play around that

  • @matthewossi4060
    @matthewossi4060 Před rokem +2

    So, another thing about goat control, generally it's a deck which has lots of ways to counter the opponent, the problem is that if you have an answer to something specific, you probably only have a single answer to it
    Another thing is during sidedecking, knowing exactly what to take out can be a little weird considering what goat controls general game plan is

  • @jameswilliams2269
    @jameswilliams2269 Před rokem +2

    You should make a video on how to play around Mirror and Torrential, and also on how to guess what face down spell and traps are.
    I find that if the opponent has not played MF or TT, I have a tendancy to assume that they have it face down, which leads me to be too cautious.
    As far as guessing backrow, I have a hard time knowing when they have Saku, when they have MF/TT, and when they are just bluffing.

    • @linuxjodi4311
      @linuxjodi4311 Před rokem

      MF and saku are usually set to accompany a caller/puller/assist monster, that's what I found most of the time, to protect..
      While torrent & dark hole are usually used to eliminate huge threat that otherwise can't be eliminated using targeted effect.. CMIIW

    • @thesmilingvagrants
      @thesmilingvagrants Před rokem

      It's mainly just taking risks based on probability. Same with heavy. You might go, alright let me set 2 or 3 if they have the heavy then that sucks
      but if they don't then they're going to have a hard time playing around this.

  • @ThatGuyThai
    @ThatGuyThai Před rokem

    My thoughts on warriors. Easy to play but really tough to build. Toolbox is amazing but you need to know how to pack and utilize side cards.

  • @LukasSkys
    @LukasSkys Před rokem +2

    playing cat well you're very resource constrained. Have to be able to read sets or else you could crash into a spy rather than a faith, when to go all in etc. Like cat literally can get 2nd at worlds but average player doesnt even have 50/50 W/L ratio when using it. I think that's an auto hard.

  • @JOEY805x1997
    @JOEY805x1997 Před rokem +1

    Warriors deserves to be in the hard tier for the current meta. I think your comments on aggression were spot on.

  • @finnsteur5639
    @finnsteur5639 Před rokem +1

    chaos turbo average/hard imo
    it's just somewhat forgiving (game 1 or with a great hand) so you don't see the missplay and feel like you're good at ygo.
    When to use discard trap without fodder, when to summon flip in attack mode, spies position or attacks, setting or not setting, when to solemn, when to summon sorc and aggro when to stay in the control mode etc..
    It just feel easy because it's the deck with the best hands. But the average and clunky hand can be hard to play. Same thing for the bad matchup. Even the mirror can be quite intense if you both end up with average hand.
    There's a reason why the majority of players play it and don't do well with it.

  • @jasonwoods1402
    @jasonwoods1402 Před rokem

    I’d move cat up and flip control down but agree with rest

  • @ScoobyShooby
    @ScoobyShooby Před rokem

    I'd argue panda burn is almost hard. I'm a Goat/Chaos Control kinda guy, and After teaching someone who doenst know how to build/play a burn deck how to play the deck, there are a lot of pitfalls for the newer players to fall into. I'd say especially in the pre-heavy storm game state. Knowing how and when to put the pressure down and how to limit your opponents answers is tough when playing burn because it's easy to run out of resources otherwise.

  • @JuanGonzalezZzZzZz...
    @JuanGonzalezZzZzZz... Před 11 měsíci

    Now it is Ron Control. Would you update this video?

  • @apoptosisduellinks109

    Maybe next time you can distinguish between how difficult it is to 1.play the deck at a level at which you can win with it (against a random player) and 2. play it optimally.
    Maybe a deck like Chaos Turbo is easy for a beginner to use and be able to win with on the ladder, while being hard to win with in a tournament.
    Sort of the difference between how difficult something is to learn compared to how difficult something is to master.
    Some decks might be difficult to learn and difficult to master.

  • @mightiestentertainment9069

    My two GOAT decks are Zombie & GK’s 😆
    Apparently, I play this format on easy mode.
    Zombie Control what I actually play is extremely difficult. You are trying to gain advantage off of the Agro zombie strategy while also using the GOAT control part of the deck as your defense. You are a balanced deck, but weaker than other agro decks or less resourceful than goat control decks.
    As for GK’s. It’s straight forward vs regular decks, but reason, chaos with outs like raigeki break & Wing blast hard to deal with, and Burn. This deck can be tricky and it’s all in how you build it.
    The easy GOAT decks are the most winning decks because they obviously have an easier time winning. Zombie & GK’s I think have a hard time winning. Argo Zombie I think isn’t all that good.

  • @9898Hawk
    @9898Hawk Před rokem +2

    I found warrior to be very easy. It is very straightforward. Surprised that you all think differently. I normally play rogue/original decks which are hard simply because you dont get a lot of experience playing against them.

    • @Circ00mspice
      @Circ00mspice Před rokem +2

      Ah normal summon attack
      Most difficult playstyle

  • @andreatorriglia8010
    @andreatorriglia8010 Před rokem

    I agree with you on most of the choices. However I would've put Warrior on easy, Reasoning Gate on hard and Library FTK on hardest. I actually think it's the hardest deck to play in Goat Format, harder than Goat Control, which deserves to be one of the hardest

    • @exiledknight3961
      @exiledknight3961 Před rokem

      no library is deff not harder then goat control.

    • @GoatDuels
      @GoatDuels  Před rokem +3

      Library is only super hard if you're new to combo decks in general. Library has much easier decisions than Reasoning Gate as a whole.

    • @andreatorriglia8010
      @andreatorriglia8010 Před rokem +1

      I've played these three Decks and I'd rank them in the following order: Library > Goat Control > Reasoning Gate. The hardest part of Library is knowing when to go off, which can either win you or lose the game. Partly the same for RGT, but I don't know that was just my opinion

  • @just_say_when3445
    @just_say_when3445 Před rokem

    I agree with you that warriors aren't as easy to play as some people think. It's not very forgiving if you Rota for the wrong thing or aren't careful with your Judgements.

    • @JOEY805x1997
      @JOEY805x1997 Před rokem

      I killed myself with judgements when I was new to the deck. I think that was the learning curve but a late game solemn can save you from losing a top deck war!

    • @just_say_when3445
      @just_say_when3445 Před rokem

      @@JOEY805x1997 For sure! Too good not to play.

    • @jameswilliams2269
      @jameswilliams2269 Před rokem +1

      There should be an hour long video just on how to use Solemn.

  • @MrBigNoodle
    @MrBigNoodle Před rokem

    I'd put Warrior in hard. I always thought it was an extremely easy deck and then when I actually started playing it I could not stop losing and I learned just how hard it actually is.
    I'd also put Reasoning Gate in average. You see lots of people making mistakes with it but I think that's just because complete noobs gravitate to it since it's a fun deck/concept. Reasoning Gate decks with lots of Dimension Fusions could be in hard I suppose since you are actually doing a combo. I play with 0 or 1 dimension fusion so I never have to think about combos like that.
    I also feel like Chaos Turbo should be in average maybe. Definitely if you play wind blast.

    • @Sayitsso
      @Sayitsso Před rokem +4

      Summon Blade Knight set 5 can be challenging for sure.

    • @Nopulu
      @Nopulu Před rokem +2

      Warrior is honestly too toolbox-y to really be that hard imo. Only hard if you don't know what to play in a given situation

    • @exiledknight3961
      @exiledknight3961 Před rokem +1

      Reasoning gate has a lot of choices to make depending on the situation and its deff harder to play then warriors.

    • @MrBigNoodle
      @MrBigNoodle Před rokem

      @@Sayitsso Most of the time you DON'T summon a monster turn 1. Also the really hard part comes mid/late game knowing when to use Solemn.

    • @MrBigNoodle
      @MrBigNoodle Před rokem

      @@exiledknight3961 Nah it's easy.

  • @JuanGonzalezZzZzZz...
    @JuanGonzalezZzZzZz... Před rokem +1

    Panda Burn the hardest. You need to atc Hecticaly

  • @necropants9971
    @necropants9971 Před rokem +1

    I'd swap pacman and reasoning gate around, but that's just my opinion.

  • @marcogarciadeleon5840

    Warrior should be on easy, reasoning gate on easy.

  • @justinmadrid8712
    @justinmadrid8712 Před rokem

    Ah yes, Helmet Warriors is sooo hard to play. New players better stay away from playing it, it’s hard.

  • @boutis7148
    @boutis7148 Před rokem

    ??????????

  • @jackcarraway4707
    @jackcarraway4707 Před rokem

    Not only is Goat Control the hardest to play, it is BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING.

    • @brandonshort876
      @brandonshort876 Před rokem

      Play modern yugioh then

    • @justinmadrid8712
      @justinmadrid8712 Před rokem

      @@brandonshort876 ah yes modern yugioh. Where your opponent takes 7 minutes on turn one, and locks you out from playing any cards with so many negates and you lose.

    • @brandonshort876
      @brandonshort876 Před rokem

      @@justinmadrid8712 if he thinks goat is boring, maybe he’d prefer the fast pace of modern.

    • @jackcarraway4707
      @jackcarraway4707 Před rokem

      @@brandonshort876 I'm saying the Goat Control DECK is boring; the format is great.

    • @brandonshort876
      @brandonshort876 Před rokem

      @@jackcarraway4707 it’s the namesake deck though, if you think the deck is boring it’s most likely because you’ve cut asura priest from your deck and rather than adapting for decks you complain when your deck no longer has a favorable matchup. Just my take.