Seles was such a phenomenal tennis player. Not to diminish Graf's accomplishments, but at the moment of the stabbing Graf was sitting at 11 singles grand slams after being on the tour since the early 80's. Whereas after only a few short years on the tour, Seles had already amassed 8 singles grand slams. No one to this day in the open era has won as much and as fast as Seles did from the moment they turned professional. Truly is a shame that the stabbing changed not only her momentum, but the course of tennis history in general. And still to this day, other than Serena Williams, no one has been able to win 9 singles grand slams even after all of these years. Imagine what her record could have been. One thing is for certain, we were all robbed of a rivalry that could have been similar to Evert and Navratilova.
@jamesr2164 - You are exactly right. Sadly, young people who never got to see Seles play will never realize not only how great she was, but also how mentally tough she was. In my opinion, Graf would no way have 22 Majors had Monica not been stabbed, and conversely Monica would have way more than 9 Majors. What a senseless tragedy by that deranged German who wanted Steffi #1 by any cost, including stabbing Monica. She was never the same after that incident.
Another interesting consideration is that Graf was up 9-0 vs Seles in slam titles in the spring of 1990 and 11-8 in the spring of 1993. Any honest person can do the math. And while it’s impossible to predict that Seles would keep winning 3 slams per year, it’s highly unlikely that she would win none of the 10 slams she missed.
@@jujumusique1305 That is exactly right, and that is the statistics that I put forth. In the spring of 1990 Graf had been on the tour for 5 years, where as Seles had been on the professional tour for 1 year, but at the 1990 French Open that Spring (in only Seles' 4th grand slam attempt), she beat Graf to win her first grand slam and then by the 1993 Australian Open, she had already won 8 Singles Grand Slams, beating Graf in the final in 3 out of their 4 grand slam final meetings before the stabbing. No one in the open era has won as much and as fast as she did from the moment they turned professional (not Navratilova, Evert, Graf, or even Serena). I'm not sure if that upset you to hear that fact, or you were somewhat agreeing, but that is all that I was stating. Which is all true. 👌
@@jujumusique1305 not only that when she came back. she no longer had the fearless factor that she had prior to stabbing. her mental game was just not there anymore.
Their quality of rally does not match their age, going way beyond! Single-handed backhand slice by Graf is more than a defensive shot. Seles was forced from time to time to improvise single-handed forehand, but she did it pretty well, even produced a stunning passing shot. Their contributions to women's game are incalculable. Such iconic figures in the tour.
These two certainly had some battles prior, but what this match showed the world is that Monica had gained the edge in the rivalry by adding new weapons and improving upon her native strengths. The future was looking dim for Steffi, until the unfortunate occurred in April.
finally somebody else who sees it, this was the first match where seles outaced graf in a match, seles was now the stronger player. and it was 8 aces to grafs 1, so complete domination
@@HaleG9 yes complete domination look at the score, are you in denial? even a crazed graf fan could see that, thats why he stabbed seles. but you cant see it haha
It's clear that at this stage of their careers, Seles had the better of Graf. She was 3-1 up on Graf in slam finals, was #1 in the world, had won 8 of last 9 slams and Graf herself said she had no answer to her game. It took a Grafanatic with a 9” boning knife to change the course of tennis history.
@@SalHardy The fans ignore all of this because they hate calling Serena the greatest but the players definitely know that Graf wouldn't have 22 if not for this stabbing.
@@SalHardy I always try to point this out. When she was stabbed she was (at the very least) the 2 time defending champion of 3 out of the 4 grand slams a player can play. that stabbing is directly responsible for Graf's second period of dominance. personally i think 1993 was going to be her calendar grand slam year. if not for Navratilova being an absolute b***h and talking about Monica's grunt, she probably would have won that Wimbledon final.
These are my two most favorite female tennis players of all time, love the both. I do feel like Seles would have had at least double the number of Grand Slam titles she finished her career with, if she were not stabbed...
That was the beginning of Graf end against Seles.... Seles was too strong, too smart and was only 19 years old. What a star she was, for me Seles is the real number one of Tennis history men's or women's. No one until today did better at her age. Powerful Monica Seles.
amazing seles landing constantly her 1st or 2nd serve at the weak side of graf, on the backhand, rarely she combines placing it at graf's forehand which quite surprising her and produce aces or bad returning ball so seles easily ending it up with winner. On the contrary graf's serve placement means no danger signal for seles since she returns the ball good at both sides. Anyway 93 marks the beginning of seles big serve
Even if Steffi is my favourite player of all times, congratulations to Monica! But I have one thing to mention, isn't just astonishing how fair these ladies have been with each other?. No hating, no arguing no bad conversation or smashing rackets over the court, what a lovely tennis area! I miss that! And aspecially little girls like Ostapenko, Putinziewa, Cibulkova and many others need a lot to learn about respect and fairness. I'm afraid especially Ostapenko will never get it, sadly! Just a thought 😢
One thing has to be said to the credit of Ostapenko though: she proves that even really fat girls, who have no outer appearance of an athlete whatsoever, can reach high rankings in this sport.
This was an amazing match. Both players gave their best and pushed each other like no one else could. I believe it could have gone either way. Wish there was technology for line judging back then like we do today.
@@Jack_Reacher2024@HeeJunFan was right. A break either way here or there and one or the other was going to win. It was very close until Graf tanked that final game.
Always admired the grit and intensity Seles played with, and she's my favourite woman player of that era. She won like 7 or 8 "major titles" by the age of 19. If she would not have got stabbed, Graff's record would not be the same, as Monica could beat her quite regularly..
Zero doubt if Seles wasn't stabbed Graf would not be in the GOAT discussion today. She would have ended up with maybe 15 slams and Seles would have won more. She was never the same after she returned from being sidelined for 2.5 years.
@@guyinsf - So very true, and 2.5 years is a very long time to be on the shelf, especially like Monica was. If she plays that 2.5 years, add 4-5 more major titles to her record. The stabbing not only had a physical effect, but moreso a long psychological effect. Too bad, she was a dynamo to watch.
@@grantp4022 I think if Monica wasn't stabbed she would have ended up with probably more than 4-5 extra slams and her winning more slams would also cut into Steffi's winning not to mention confidence. This stabbing incident is so tragic beyond words and it really completely changed the careers of two great champions.
Monica is my idea of a great tennis player. Graff's record will always be suspect because if Monica doesn't get stabbed by the german, she beats Graff several times during the years she couldn't play. Even when Monica came back, she just wasn't as great as she was before the attack. But at least we all know that Monica was the best of the two.
Younger people keep forgetting or never realized the tennis racket designers and makers are greatly responsible for increased power in the game...If you ever come across a racket from their era in the late 80s to early 90s, string it the way you would your own racket and play with it, you'll see the difference immediately.
@@musicfan300 Yes indeed. I believe the earlier era was more difficult times to play for that reason. Add to equipment how much less we knew then of body science, strength, and conditioning, Modern sports physiology, traveling with a full professional team, etc. did not exist. Those players for the most part traveled alone. Navratilova was the first woman to be heard about hitting the gym in the ‘80’s.
Poucos meses depois Mônica Seles sofreu um atentado na Alemanha e ficou mais de dois anos afastada das quadras, e quando voltou ja não era nem a sombra daquela de antes.
Love this highlight reel ❤such good quality and you included a lot of good points not in other highlight reels of this classic match ..IMonica tried to hit harder when she returned in 95 to compensate for her lack of match play and fitness , it caused a lot of errors as she could no longer play defence as she showed in this match ..she also anticipated so well ….Her three years of dominance ( yes minus Wimbledon fair point to Graf fans but she was dominating everywhere else) she hit hard but it was her tennis mind which was the best she knew when to go for it and when to let the opponent best themselves .. it’s funny as both her and Novak Djokovic had the same tennis coach. I believe when they were younger and they both have an amazing quality of letting the other player basically meltdown with their incredible consistency and power ..so I see a lot of similarities there if she wasn’t stabbed, they would’ve been so many more slams and great matches with Graf/Hingis/ Sabatini/Davenport/sanchez Vicario and Martina Navratilova we were robbed of all of that. But love these highlights it showed a smarter approach to Graf which was to break down the backhand ( unlike their two previous slam matches where Monica hit way too much to grafs forehand) Seles here also pumped up her serve ..it never looked this good again after she returned … so recent interview with Monica and Chris Evert, and she said she finally figured out the best play the best way to place Steffi Graf in the Australian open and that was going to be the plan moving forward. I think she would’ve dominated graf at 93,94 and who knows how many other players
Steffi went 80-2 win/loss in the 12 months after the Seles stabbing. Seles never had a run like this. The idea that Seles would have dominated THAT Steffi while having to cope with a dying father and her eating disorder problems (which started already in 1990) is asinine. Fueled by your hate against Steffi Graf. Do you and your ilk have no shame?
@@Ineddiblehulk After that, Steffi hired a madman to stop Monica's ascent. Well, no, that's not even speculation, but 1993 is indeed the year that started very, very strong for Monica but soon saw the biggest tragedy to ever happen in this sport.
La vida no es justa con muchas personas, con Seles no lo fue. Si no hubiera sido por el intento de asesinato con apuñalamiento que padeció el mismo año de este partido, Seles habría sido la mejor tenista femenina de la historia del tenis femenino.
What I loved about Steffi and Monica is that they never once --- in the entirety of their careers --- ever broke a racquet, threatened to kill a line judge, defended one's own poor sportsmanship due to 'feminism' [e.g. "I'm a mother!"], or plainly lied about not getting coached during a match.
So entirely true! Bravo! The one only thing that was important to these ladies was playing Tennis as good as possible. And truly, they did! Champions! And even in wining a match over a snobby Hingis in RG she found so lovely words to her. Same with Monica after all she was been through, fair kind and full of respect to her opponents. And they never never ever lied! I'm afraid these times are over 😢 I miss them so much!
The only thing that did bug me about Graf, despite her incredibly beauty game, was her poor sportsmanship early in her career. She was quite a sore loser and gave the worst handshakes but she did get a little bit better. But her forehand and backhand slice were a joy to watch, better than anyone till this day!
@@guyinsf you are right! Steffi never seemed to be the nicest person on court, but she got raced like this! But this was only the obvious part. Behind-the-scenes she the was a completely different person! And how much she was appreciated by her opponents can we watch when she got into the hall of fame! And her disappointment about loosing a match, she just couldn't hide it! So you are right. 😉
@@Elfenspiegel That was the main reason I didn't really become a fan of her as a person. She was a bit too cold and unfriendly to me but I still enjoyed all her matches. She had one of the most beautiful games ever and as a male player I actually tried to emulate her forehand because it was such an unorthodox but amazing shot! One of the most unique and iconic strokes in tennis history and her slice is also a beauty, maybe the best ever in the game but such an underrated stroke! Steffi's sportsmanship did improve as she matured on the tour though.
@@guyinsf one more time I totally agree what you are saying. But Steffi never went on the court and playing tennis to make friends. She just wanted to be out there to play her best possible tennis! Not more, not less! And if she lost, she was so sad about herself and angry, like every single champion we used to have!
If Seles hadn't been stabbed on court by that maniacal German who wished to see his own countrymen Steffi reassert her supremacy by her elimination, women's tennis would have been very different and Seles would have absolutely dominated tennis relegating Steffi to the sidelines. And that one tragic incident changed the whole face of women's tennis.
I almost felt bad for Graf in parts of this match… She looked lost and was overpowered. No wonder one of Graf’s lunatic fans felt the need to literally stab her… to stop her.
Tired on the hate on Graf. It was only in the last year and a bit she got on top of Graf Graf had a better head to head before the stabbing and even if didnt happen she wouldn't of catched Graf in terms of Slams
@@monica012077 oh really, what a surprise (not). 3 cm do not help though, when you intentionally make yourself smaller with every hit, trample with every step and grunt all the time like a pig being slaughtered - when Graf is moving around effortless with the best footwork of all times. So, it is the dwarvish nature of Seles compared to the elegance of Graf.
@@HaleG9 Graf was the dwarf in every way. Mentally, weak backhand, weak serve, and inferior to Seles. Everyone can see it, especially newer fans who aren't invested.
@@monica012077 sure, 'everyone can see it', in your dreamland little Monica. You nailed your problem: 'fan'. I am not a 'fan'. I am just a Tennis player. Stick to Amtrax. Next...
Here is the conclusion. Seles is much better than Graf. Without the accident Graf' slam title would be 15around(maximun) Graf must thank for HIM very much!
true...those numbers by graf are fake, considering the 2 years absence of Seles who gave graf nightmares, there was no way graf would have ended with those titles and weeks at number 1.
@jm7804 Yh I'm a fan but objective u like you Seles worshipers. Thinking if the sad circumstances didn't happen she dominated even more and win more slams than her? Lol
Graf could only beat. Seles and Hingis with gratuitous help on line calls and the crowd cheering her opponents mistakes. As talented as she was, the entitlement that went along with her was aweful for the sport. She’s a brat
@@neelante Seles wasn't the crowd's favorite back then. She was the undisputed number 1 and a prolific line painter. Monica wasn't entitled especially not after the stabbing. She's always been gracious something Steffi could have learned from.
@@neelante I never said Seles wasn't respected. I said she wasn't the crowd favorite as you can see in this match. She only became the crowd favorite after the stabbing and she was never entitled or rude like Steffi was. So I don't know why you're implying that then calling me bitter all with spelling and grammatical errors. Maybe you should "get over yourself" and figure out what you're trying to say. Especially when talking to someone who inherited the Seles game as a natural lefty.
Seles beat Graff with 60-70 % of power , easily . Without stubbing incident 2 months after this - Graff never be 22 . Grand Slam winner ( in most finals she beat Arancha Sanchez ).
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It was 30 years ago and the pace of the shots was very fast, simply spectacular
Seles was such a phenomenal tennis player. Not to diminish Graf's accomplishments, but at the moment of the stabbing Graf was sitting at 11 singles grand slams after being on the tour since the early 80's. Whereas after only a few short years on the tour, Seles had already amassed 8 singles grand slams. No one to this day in the open era has won as much and as fast as Seles did from the moment they turned professional. Truly is a shame that the stabbing changed not only her momentum, but the course of tennis history in general. And still to this day, other than Serena Williams, no one has been able to win 9 singles grand slams even after all of these years. Imagine what her record could have been. One thing is for certain, we were all robbed of a rivalry that could have been similar to Evert and Navratilova.
@jamesr2164 - You are exactly right. Sadly, young people who never got to see Seles play will never realize not only how great she was, but also how mentally tough she was. In my opinion, Graf would no way have 22 Majors had Monica not been stabbed, and conversely Monica would have way more than 9 Majors. What a senseless tragedy by that deranged German who wanted Steffi #1 by any cost, including stabbing Monica. She was never the same after that incident.
Another interesting consideration is that Graf was up 9-0 vs Seles in slam titles in the spring of 1990 and 11-8 in the spring of 1993. Any honest person can do the math. And while it’s impossible to predict that Seles would keep winning 3 slams per year, it’s highly unlikely that she would win none of the 10 slams she missed.
@@jujumusique1305 That is exactly right, and that is the statistics that I put forth. In the spring of 1990 Graf had been on the tour for 5 years, where as Seles had been on the professional tour for 1 year, but at the 1990 French Open that Spring (in only Seles' 4th grand slam attempt), she beat Graf to win her first grand slam and then by the 1993 Australian Open, she had already won 8 Singles Grand Slams, beating Graf in the final in 3 out of their 4 grand slam final meetings before the stabbing. No one in the open era has won as much and as fast as she did from the moment they turned professional (not Navratilova, Evert, Graf, or even Serena). I'm not sure if that upset you to hear that fact, or you were somewhat agreeing, but that is all that I was stating. Which is all true. 👌
@@missourimanful so true 👍
@@jujumusique1305 not only that when she came back. she no longer had the fearless factor that she had prior to stabbing. her mental game was just not there anymore.
Their quality of rally does not match their age, going way beyond! Single-handed backhand slice by Graf is more than a defensive shot. Seles was forced from time to time to improvise single-handed forehand, but she did it pretty well, even produced a stunning passing shot. Their contributions to women's game are incalculable. Such iconic figures in the tour.
Amazing record of Seles at australia open, 4 title in first 4 years apperanced
Seles is the goat. Apuñalándola detuvieron su camino pero no su gloria.
These two certainly had some battles prior, but what this match showed the world is that Monica had gained the edge in the rivalry by adding new weapons and improving upon her native strengths. The future was looking dim for Steffi, until the unfortunate occurred in April.
finally somebody else who sees it, this was the first match where seles outaced graf in a match, seles was now the stronger player. and it was 8 aces to grafs 1, so complete domination
In this match she has 'gotten the edge' by Steffi making too many unforced errors. Not really conclusive...
@@Jack_Reacher2024 'complete domination' - lol, of nonsense in your brain maybe.
@@HaleG9 8 aces to grafs 1, first time she ever outaced graf in a match, and it wasnt even close,so ur wrong again
@@HaleG9 yes complete domination look at the score, are you in denial? even a crazed graf fan could see that, thats why he stabbed seles. but you cant see it haha
It's clear that at this stage of their careers, Seles had the better of Graf. She was 3-1 up on Graf in slam finals, was #1 in the world, had won 8 of last 9 slams and Graf herself said she had no answer to her game. It took a Grafanatic with a 9” boning knife to change the course of tennis history.
I'm glad that some else knows that had it not been for the stabbing, Graf would not have 22.
@@SalHardy The fans ignore all of this because they hate calling Serena the greatest but the players definitely know that Graf wouldn't have 22 if not for this stabbing.
@@AC-ss5oy Absolutely.
@@SalHardy I always try to point this out. When she was stabbed she was (at the very least) the 2 time defending champion of 3 out of the 4 grand slams a player can play. that stabbing is directly responsible for Graf's second period of dominance. personally i think 1993 was going to be her calendar grand slam year. if not for Navratilova being an absolute b***h and talking about Monica's grunt, she probably would have won that Wimbledon final.
@@AC-ss5oy Not to mention. Seles was #1 during the time of the stabbing.
Моника и Штеффи, спасибо вам за красивый и зрелищный финал. 30 лет прошло, а я до сих пор помню тот финал. Незабываемые ощущения.
These are my two most favorite female tennis players of all time, love the both. I do feel like Seles would have had at least double the number of Grand Slam titles she finished her career with, if she were not stabbed...
That was the beginning of Graf end against Seles....
Seles was too strong, too smart and was only 19 years old.
What a star she was, for me Seles is the real number one of Tennis history men's or women's.
No one until today did better at her age.
Powerful Monica Seles.
I would say , beginning of the end of Seles. Because german lunatic.
May be if Seles would lost this match, this lunatic would not attack her.
amazing seles landing constantly her 1st or 2nd serve at the weak side of graf, on the backhand, rarely she combines placing it at graf's forehand which quite surprising her and produce aces or bad returning ball so seles easily ending it up with winner. On the contrary graf's serve placement means no danger signal for seles since she returns the ball good at both sides. Anyway 93 marks the beginning of seles big serve
Even if Steffi is my favourite player of all times, congratulations to Monica! But I have one thing to mention, isn't just astonishing how fair these ladies have been with each other?. No hating, no arguing no bad conversation or smashing rackets over the court, what a lovely tennis area! I miss that!
And aspecially little girls like Ostapenko, Putinziewa, Cibulkova and many others need a lot to learn about respect and fairness. I'm afraid especially Ostapenko will never get it, sadly!
Just a thought 😢
It's true. Great respect and fairness. Two Champions also in this.
Yeah, no Serena behavior. These 2 have class and acted like adults..
One thing has to be said to the credit of Ostapenko though: she proves that even really fat girls, who have no outer appearance of an athlete whatsoever, can reach high rankings in this sport.
Sorry but i guess you didn't hear about the German stabbing Monica
@@peterflorino9016 And what has this to do with Steffi in person? So weird!
19:23 is my favorite point. Seles relentlessly attacking Graf’s FH.
Graf was shook! Most players stayed away from that wing.
there's no way graf would have gotten 22 if seles was not stabbed... NO WAYYYYY...
She certainly would not have won 22 by age 30. However if Seles hadn’t been stabbed and Graf played until 35, she might have been close.
This was an amazing match. Both players gave their best and pushed each other like no one else could. I believe it could have gone either way. Wish there was technology for line judging back then like we do today.
what match were you watching? it could have gone either way? seles dominated the last 2 sets, it wasnt even close
@@Jack_Reacher2024@HeeJunFan was right. A break either way here or there and one or the other was going to win. It was very close until Graf tanked that final game.
@@fridaclaxton the score proves you wrong, 6-2 and 6-3 isnt close
It wasn't even close.
Nessa época Mônica Seles era a melhor do mundo e tinha tudo para ser a melhor de todos os tempos se não tivesse sofrido aquele atentado.
Always admired the grit and intensity Seles played with,
and she's my favourite woman player of that era. She won like 7 or 8 "major titles" by the age of 19. If she
would not have got stabbed, Graff's record would not be
the same, as Monica could beat her quite regularly..
Zero doubt if Seles wasn't stabbed Graf would not be in the GOAT discussion today. She would have ended up with maybe 15 slams and Seles would have won more. She was never the same after she returned from being sidelined for 2.5 years.
@@guyinsf - So very true, and 2.5 years
is a very long time to be on the shelf,
especially like Monica was. If she plays
that 2.5 years, add 4-5 more major titles
to her record. The stabbing not only had
a physical effect, but moreso a long
psychological effect. Too bad, she was
a dynamo to watch.
@@grantp4022 I think if Monica wasn't stabbed she would have ended up with probably more than 4-5 extra slams and her winning more slams would also cut into Steffi's winning not to mention confidence. This stabbing incident is so tragic beyond words and it really completely changed the careers of two great champions.
Monica just getting better and better. She would have owned 1993-1996. Regardless, she is the GOAT of players under 20.
Monica is my idea of a great tennis player. Graff's record will always be suspect because if Monica doesn't get stabbed by the german, she beats Graff several times during the years she couldn't play. Even when Monica came back, she just wasn't as great as she was before the attack. But at least we all know that Monica was the best of the two.
Excellent match between two greats
Amazing game. Amazing players.
Looks like power play existed earlier than it’s given credit for. Two outstanding athletes here.
I watched a review of a match for Venus Williams and if I’m not mistaken, she credits Seles for being one of the first with power play
Power play definitely existed the Williams Sisters just took it to new levels forcing everyone to level up or get left behind.
Younger people keep forgetting or never realized the tennis racket designers and makers are greatly responsible for increased power in the game...If you ever come across a racket from their era in the late 80s to early 90s, string it the way you would your own racket and play with it, you'll see the difference immediately.
@@musicfan300
Yes indeed. I believe the earlier era was more difficult times to play for that reason. Add to equipment how much less we knew then of body science, strength, and conditioning, Modern sports physiology, traveling with a full professional team, etc. did not exist. Those players for the most part traveled alone. Navratilova was the first woman to be heard about hitting the gym in the ‘80’s.
Che meraviglia la Seles ...
Awesome quality, danke sehr! Do you have the 1992 French Open final?
yes, but there will be three other grand slam finals before i upload that one
Seles the best.
Graf getting her ass handed to her for the third time in four slam finals.
Monica's last Slam before being stabbed. 😢
This is a totally different story if compared to RG 92. Monica was waaaay better here.
Great video ❤
Interesting stat: this was the first time in 10 matches that the winner of the first set didn’t win the match.
Poucos meses depois Mônica Seles sofreu um atentado na Alemanha e ficou mais de dois anos afastada das quadras, e quando voltou ja não era nem a sombra daquela de antes.
Love this highlight reel ❤such good quality and you included a lot of good points not in other highlight reels of this classic match ..IMonica tried to hit harder when she returned in 95 to compensate for her lack of match play and fitness , it caused a lot of errors as she could no longer play defence as she showed in this match ..she also anticipated so well ….Her three years of dominance ( yes minus Wimbledon fair point to Graf fans but she was dominating everywhere else) she hit hard but it was her tennis mind which was the best she knew when to go for it and when to let the opponent best themselves .. it’s funny as both her and Novak Djokovic had the same tennis coach. I believe when they were younger and they both have an amazing quality of letting the other player basically meltdown with their incredible consistency and power ..so I see a lot of similarities there if she wasn’t stabbed, they would’ve been so many more slams and great matches with Graf/Hingis/ Sabatini/Davenport/sanchez Vicario and Martina Navratilova we were robbed of all of that. But love these highlights it showed a smarter approach to Graf which was to break down the backhand ( unlike their two previous slam matches where Monica hit way too much to grafs forehand) Seles here also pumped up her serve ..it never looked this good again after she returned … so recent interview with Monica and Chris Evert, and she said she finally figured out the best play the best way to place Steffi Graf in the Australian open and that was going to be the plan moving forward. I think she would’ve dominated graf at 93,94 and who knows how many other players
Which three (!) years of Seles dominance are you fantasizing about?
Steffi went 80-2 win/loss in the 12 months after the Seles stabbing.
Seles never had a run like this.
The idea that Seles would have dominated THAT Steffi while having to cope with a dying father and her eating disorder problems (which started already in 1990) is asinine. Fueled by your hate against Steffi Graf.
Do you and your ilk have no shame?
@@carrerau7138 wrong wrong wrong lol
@@carrerau7138 eating disorders started in 1990? Why not 1980? 😂 You're delusional.
Graf did not know how to answer Monica's attacks. Monica was clearly superior at that time of their rivalry.
I think that this match has had the best never played from Monica. Well done!
Yeah it quite possibly was - graf played great, and still it wasn’t enough. This was just. Anew level of tennis from both, great win for Monica
@@Ineddiblehulk After that, Steffi hired a madman to stop Monica's ascent. Well, no, that's not even speculation, but 1993 is indeed the year that started very, very strong for Monica but soon saw the biggest tragedy to ever happen in this sport.
How old (or young) was Seles when she came back to the sport?
La vida no es justa con muchas personas, con Seles no lo fue. Si no hubiera sido por el intento de asesinato con apuñalamiento que padeció el mismo año de este partido, Seles habría sido la mejor tenista femenina de la historia del tenis femenino.
Eight Grand Slam single titles before her 20th birthday.
Graf had 6 before her 20th birthday.
Seles had eight, not much between them. Should have been a rivalry for the ages. Unfortunately cut short.
Hey, Stef Duffy, where are you ? have you moved to another screenname ?
Whatever that was that flew on the bottom of the screen around 1:09 made me try to fan it away 🤣
What I loved about Steffi and Monica is that they never once --- in the entirety of their careers --- ever broke a racquet, threatened to kill a line judge, defended one's own poor sportsmanship due to 'feminism' [e.g. "I'm a mother!"], or plainly lied about not getting coached during a match.
So entirely true! Bravo! The one only thing that was important to these ladies was playing Tennis as good as possible. And truly, they did! Champions! And even in wining a match over a snobby Hingis in RG she found so lovely words to her. Same with Monica after all she was been through, fair kind and full of respect to her opponents. And they never never ever lied! I'm afraid these times are over 😢 I miss them so much!
The only thing that did bug me about Graf, despite her incredibly beauty game, was her poor sportsmanship early in her career. She was quite a sore loser and gave the worst handshakes but she did get a little bit better. But her forehand and backhand slice were a joy to watch, better than anyone till this day!
@@guyinsf you are right! Steffi never seemed to be the nicest person on court, but she got raced like this! But this was only the obvious part. Behind-the-scenes she the was a completely different person! And how much she was appreciated by her opponents can we watch when she got into the hall of fame! And her disappointment about loosing a match, she just couldn't hide it! So you are right. 😉
@@Elfenspiegel That was the main reason I didn't really become a fan of her as a person. She was a bit too cold and unfriendly to me but I still enjoyed all her matches. She had one of the most beautiful games ever and as a male player I actually tried to emulate her forehand because it was such an unorthodox but amazing shot! One of the most unique and iconic strokes in tennis history and her slice is also a beauty, maybe the best ever in the game but such an underrated stroke! Steffi's sportsmanship did improve as she matured on the tour though.
@@guyinsf one more time I totally agree what you are saying. But Steffi never went on the court and playing tennis to make friends. She just wanted to be out there to play her best possible tennis! Not more, not less! And if she lost, she was so sad about herself and angry, like every single champion we used to have!
Was that serve at 32:22 really out? Eh...
You can tell Steffi's slice sits so low, Monica has to bend down to get to it. That's Why she's dangerous on grass.
Stafi - "god i hate losing to this girl. Ima stab dis bish."
4:40 wowwww
If Seles hadn't been stabbed on court by that maniacal German who wished to see his own countrymen Steffi reassert her supremacy by her elimination, women's tennis would have been very different and Seles would have absolutely dominated tennis relegating Steffi to the sidelines. And that one tragic incident changed the whole face of women's tennis.
No she wouldn't
Stef Duffy : why don't you post anymore ? at least under your real name ?
Would seles been the GOAT if she would not be attacked by this psycho?
Poor Monica 😢
😊Seles
I almost felt bad for Graf in parts of this match… She looked lost and was overpowered. No wonder one of Graf’s lunatic fans felt the need to literally stab her… to stop her.
Tired on the hate on Graf. It was only in the last year and a bit she got on top of Graf Graf had a better head to head before the stabbing and even if didnt happen she wouldn't of catched Graf in terms of Slams
You made too many unforced steffi ,always be the greatest though
No grunting, it’s possible
Not commenting it's possible
These two were the best, however Seles was just a little bit better than Graf.
I see an elegant swan playing an ambitiously grunting dwarf here. No wonder most people liked the swan better...
Graf is the dwarf because Seles is taller than her. 😂
@@monica012077 oh really, what a surprise (not). 3 cm do not help though, when you intentionally make yourself smaller with every hit, trample with every step and grunt all the time like a pig being slaughtered - when Graf is moving around effortless with the best footwork of all times. So, it is the dwarvish nature of Seles compared to the elegance of Graf.
@@HaleG9 Graf was the dwarf in every way. Mentally, weak backhand, weak serve, and inferior to Seles. Everyone can see it, especially newer fans who aren't invested.
@@monica012077 sure, 'everyone can see it', in your dreamland little Monica. You nailed your problem: 'fan'. I am not a 'fan'. I am just a Tennis player. Stick to Amtrax. Next...
La vittima e l'aiutata
Here is the conclusion. Seles is much better than Graf. Without the accident Graf' slam title would be 15around(maximun) Graf must thank for HIM very much!
true...those numbers by graf are fake, considering the 2 years absence of Seles who gave graf nightmares, there was no way graf would have ended with those titles and weeks at number 1.
Monica was heading toward dominating their rivalry. Even though she already did in the slams.
@Ricky-mo6mv No she was wasn't and what happened when she came back??? Excuses
@@neelante You're just showing your ignorance, which is a pattern with Grafanatics.
@jm7804 Yh I'm a fan but objective u like you Seles worshipers. Thinking if the sad circumstances didn't happen she dominated even more and win more slams than her? Lol
another graf-sele match where the fan bases in the comment section act like idiots. 🤦♂
Graf could only beat. Seles and Hingis with gratuitous help on line calls and the crowd cheering her opponents mistakes. As talented as she was, the entitlement that went along with her was aweful for the sport. She’s a brat
Agree with the entitlement, she was very talented however. There's no denying that.(And I'm a rabid Seles fan).
So did Seles
@@neelante Seles wasn't the crowd's favorite back then. She was the undisputed number 1 and a prolific line painter. Monica wasn't entitled especially not after the stabbing. She's always been gracious something Steffi could have learned from.
@@monica012077 Give over you seem bitter Seles was well respected
@@neelante I never said Seles wasn't respected. I said she wasn't the crowd favorite as you can see in this match. She only became the crowd favorite after the stabbing and she was never entitled or rude like Steffi was. So I don't know why you're implying that then calling me bitter all with spelling and grammatical errors. Maybe you should "get over yourself" and figure out what you're trying to say. Especially when talking to someone who inherited the Seles game as a natural lefty.
I just can't stand the butchery. Show it or shove it.
Seles beat Graff with 60-70 % of power , easily .
Without stubbing incident 2 months after this - Graff never be 22 . Grand Slam winner ( in most finals she beat Arancha Sanchez ).