How to Fix Stalling EcoBoost Engine - CEL P0087: HOW TO ESCAPE
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If your 1.6L or 2.0L ecoboost escape has been experiencing stalling at low RPM after the engine is warmed up, or you're experiencing the following symptoms, this video is for you:
- Stalling at Idle
- Engine hesitations at low RPM
- Poor fuel economy
- CEL P0087 - Fuel Rail Pressure Low
This video involves gaining access to the low pressure fuel sensor by means of removing the wipers and wiper cowl. Link to that video is here:
• 2013 Ford Escape Easy ... (***SEE 0:47 - 2:26***)
Other things you can inspect for your low pressure fuel lines if this is not the fix, are:
- Fuel Pump - If burned out or weakened
- Fuel Filter - if clogged
- Fuel Lines
- Electrical connections for sensor
All of the above 4 items may require taking the vehicle to a shop to get access to the gas tank so this video and the low pressure fuel sensor is the most accessible and the most likely to be the cause.
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Great video chief. I just did this repair on one of my customers vehicles, and if anybody wanting to do this at home sees this, it may be worth your while to take the top engine air snorkel off, simply by disconnecting the vacuum line attached to it and loosening off the hose clamps at both ends with a flat head screwdriver. Only took me 2 minutes and gives you a great angle and view of the low pressure sensor.
Those errors are exactly what im going through with my ford focus 2016 car. I took my car to the auto zone store to get a diagnosis and they stated it has low fuel pressure and requires a new fuel pump. This video helped out a lot for me, thank you. I will buy a new fuel pressure sensor and hope that may alleviate the stalling and slow throttle that I'm currently having. The same code did show up on the dashboard but soon disappeared. Thank you for you're assistance.
I truly believe with all my heart that people like your are true superheroes. I haven’t even tried the fox yet, but just knowing that there is hope! Makes this journey to repair my car a lot better!
Thanks for this video. I changed the same sensor on my daughters Escape today. Your video helped me a lot!
@Paul Keen- just saw this! Glad it worked for you- funny how the little bits like this sensor can cause so much grief. Glad the video was helpful and I appreciate the feedback!
It’s been 11 months - how has her Escape held up?? Did this fix it for good?
@@goguma814 Escape has done great since the repair! Thank you for following up with me!
Thank you so much for this video and your experience. I had all the symptoms you described and I replaced the same part and it's fixed. I was ready to do the same thing as you and replace the fuel pump first but your video saved me hundreds of dollars, several hours and all the skin on my knuckles. Including the test drive, all done in less than 3 hours.
Daaaang! About 2 months late. My normal mechanic couldn’t figure out what was going on. Ended up replacing high pressure *and* low pressure sensor as well as high pressure fuel pump. It’s been long enough now that I can’t remember what code we pulled. This is extremely helpful should I run into issues again. Thanks!
Hah! Oh noooooo- Sorry Jeremy- I have been meaning to make this video for so long now but with some family things and the holidays it didn't happen until now :/ I appreciate the feedback and to your point, it may be worth a video on the high pressure sensor as well... thanks for the comment and always good to hear from you Jeremy! Hope the holidays were great for you man and that all are well and healthy on your end sir :)
@@HowToEscapeDIYTipsandReviews not your fault foe sure. Turns out that was the code we got. Granted, the first round never threw a code, it just killed as soon as I gave it any gas. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Holiday was great and family doing well! Hope your new little has been a bundle of joy and you’ve both been able to sleep a bit more.
@@jeremyandrus7520 thanks for remembering, man and yes all is well and slightly more restful over here :) slowly making progress on the app again so hoping to have another check in once I know we have the mileage calculator down:)
Thank you so much I just fix my car after watching your video !!! Great ...
Mine has just started with this issue. Thanks again man. You are on point with these videos!
Thanks man- hope you can get it resolved quickly with this and that it's the cause! Thanks for the encouragement and for leaving a comment!
Thanks for the video. I got lucky. Mine was pointing to the right and I didn't need the extensions (2.0 EcoBoost 2013 Fusion). The wrench I used was a 13 mm and the socket a 24 mm deepwell.
Awesome, Keith! Always nice to save some time and get it fixed. Did the sensor solve your problem? Sorry for the delay in response. Hope all is well!
2.0 ecoboost Fusion here too. Mine is not stalling rn however idle RPMs are starting to dip often, maybe the sensor is starting to go?
@@TheRealSteelBeowulf could be. Could also be your plugs or coils- any idea when the last time you changed plugs was?
@@HowToEscapeDIYTipsandReviews about a year ago
@@TheRealSteelBeowulf hmm that seems fairly recent but how many miles do you think you put on it since then?
I would have thrown my 20v impact on those long extensions. I have to do this project soon. Thank you for the video
Hey dude, I have a 2013 ford escape 1.6L turbo and I just replaced this part on my car but thank you for this video! Wouldn't have even thought of that at all or known how to replace it if it wasn't for this!
Yeah! There are so many things in this vehicle and it worked for us so wanted to share. Did it resolve your issues???
@@HowToEscapeDIYTipsandReviews I’m having the same exact thing after driving it for a couple hours it starts to stall. I replaced the fuel pressure sensor with no fix. Any other reasons these things stall?
I found this video looking for a solution to this for my 2012 f150 ecoboost. I think this is my fix, I’ve already tried a new HPFP which has a high pressure sensor on it new. It still has the same symptoms so I’m going to try the low pressure now. I never thought about the low side being the issue.
is there anything else I have to do? The car sounds like it wants to start now but still isn't running. I've had the high pressure fuel pump replaced, battery replaced, and the low pressure fuel sensor replaced and it still won't start. Codes I'm getting are P26B7 and P0087.
Check the high pressure fuel pump follower/ cup probably shot and cam lobe also
Hey so my escape is having these issues aswell. Although mines not throwing a code i do have a level 2 code reader and i think I'll look into pricing and replacing my fuel pressure sensor
Good thoughts- ours didn't always throw a code. Maybe one of 5 times we would stall. Our escape has not had these struggles since replacing the sensor so I hope its the same fix for you!
@@HowToEscapeDIYTipsandReviews my daughters Escape rarely showed a code whenever it stalled. But when it did it was code for low fuel rail pressure.
@@paulkeen8680 did you try replacing this sensor- for me, the pressure was never truly low but the sensor thought it was, and told the system to pull back which caused the hesitations.
@@HowToEscapeDIYTipsandReviews I replaced it today using the steps on this video. So far so good. No stalling as now.
@@paulkeen8680 👌 awesome. Keep us posted! Hope this was it for you
2.0 ecoboost, I have no running problems at all. EML came on and saying low fuel pressure, live reading is perfect. Cleared the light and car was fine for 3 day's now light back on. Do you think this is the start of a failing sensor?
Can I use some spray or or something so it doesn’t break???
I’m smelling fuel like crazy could this be issue or could it be the fuel rail being open or closed?
Hey there- if you're smelling fuel, check all your fuel lines in the engine bay. We had a black fuel line crack and have drips eek out when the engine is running and under pressure. Find the fuel line coming up to the low pressure fuel sensor, Then follow it to the engine block where it will enter the high pressure fuel pump and then the fuel rail before going to the injectors. If you can find any wetness or strength of smell in one area, shine a flashlight on the line and see if you can see any hairline fractures on anything. These lines can crack and split over time. If you look on our channel, we have a video on replacing a fuel line (which is the main repair I'm referring to from our experience...czcams.com/video/t-4orqJl-JI/video.html). If you feel that you're in a safe position, inspect again with the engine running and a flashlight and see if you notice a spray or bubbling coming from anywhere in the line. That would be my best guess. Also, if you find the leak and repair it, best to replace the cabin air filter as well to make sure you don't have any of that odor circulating the cabin. It gave us headaches after a while. Good luck and let us know what you find out!
Hello friend, I have a Ford Fusion 2014 2.0. Sometimes the code comes up with p0087 and the rpm sometimes drops and the car turns off. It's not all the time and the code comes up sometimes. Maybe I have to change the sensor.
I have an stalling issue with my 2013 escape. No engine lights. Should there be an engine light if the sensor is defected? Is your having an engine light?
My car was doing that at random times for the longest time wasn't until last weekend when the sensor finally failed completely and engine light came on
Explicação excelente… e me ajudou a trocar esse sensor do meu Fusion
What if the check engine light is not on but same symptoms?
Our 1.6 engine runs smooth, no miss, no check engine light on. But when pulling a steep grade it pulses, any suggestions?
Broke the fuel line to the left trying to remove sensor. Idea of how much to repair it?
I have a 2016 Ford Escape Titanuim with the 2.0 ecoboost. I am starting to notice that every once and a while my Escape will stall after starting. I think it has happened 4 times in the last 2 months. It is also a pig on fuel in the city. Highway fuel mileage is great. Just the city fuel sucks. Also it can have a rough idle at times. I am wondering if I should just go ahead and replace the sensor. I am not one to part swap just for the heck of it. Also I do not get a check engine light. I am wondering if my sensor is slowly wearing out. It might be worth the $100.00 Canadian. Also I only use 92 octane top tier gas in my escape. 92 octane is the highest octane gas I can get in Canada.
Had this same problem your describing on my 15' Titanium 2.0L , Culprit was the purge valve
What ended up being the solution to your issues?
@@CreatingExcellence I had majority of those same issues in my 2015 of the exact same model. Minus the bad fuel economy in the city as that is affected greatly by each person and their driving habits. My problems in the end went away after a Transmission Fluid change. I did the sensor swap, coil packs and spark plugs as well before that. The coil packs made a slight difference but nothing compared to the transmission fluid change. If your getting the check engine light with your issue it's most likely just the low pressure sensor. It couldn't hurt to do the coil packs and spark plugs at same time as you will be in the same general area and it's easy to DIY.
Purge valve was the cause when it would stall after getting fuel (my check engine light was on with that issue).
@@CreatingExcellence Nothing, it hasn't done it since leaving this post. Sorry i couldn't help if you are having the same issue.
I got the same code says the same thing now I went and got the part but they gave me the wrong one it's way to big they are saying it goes in thr fuel rail but even that one is to small I got the 1.5 l eco boost now if I go get the low fule pressure sensor they should give me that one ?
I have 2 one behind the manifold on the passager side of the fuek rail and the one that you changed how do I know which one is bad
This might seem like a dumb question. Does outside air temperature affect fuel pressure in this type of fuel system? I’ve been experiencing intermittent stalling at low idle for the last few months. It seems more frequent when the weather warms up past 50 degrees. Sometimes I can go 2 or 3 weeks in colder temperatures with no issues at all. I did discover that the code it throws when this happens is P008A-00. Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated.
Another good video, bro.
Anyone do a PCV valve on the 1.6? Can't find the damn thing.
Hey thanks, Brendan- sorry for the delay- check out this thread here- there's a guy who worked on the PCV hose - looks like it's on the back side of teh engine just under the air duct! - www.fordescape.org/threads/gas-smell-in-cabin.33874/page-19
Will an impact wrench be safe to remove the sensor?
Hey there and sorry for the delay- I would say probably not, just because the sensor is mounted to the fuel line. I think the impact driver could rattle and damage the fuel line as well, but it would depend on the setting of the tool as well as your hold on the sensor/fuel line. I know I wouldn't be comfortable with it, but if you were really careful, perhaps it would be ok.
Thanks brother life saver, question do you know where is the higher fuel pressure sensor on a escape 2.0 2014? 😊 thanks
Hey thanks German V- the high pressure fuel pump should be just before the fuel rail. Basically if you follow the black fuel line to the engine block, it will be along that line, bolted to the top of the engine block right before the injectors and the fuel rail. If you take off the cosmetic engine cover and then any shrouding, it should be there!
@@HowToEscapeDIYTipsandReviews 😊 thanks buddy... GOD BLESS YOU!!!
@@07Review you as well sir! Let me know if you have trouble finding it!
This would not apply to the 2.0 ?
Happy family.
I dnt have a check engine light but my Ford is very hesitant and jumps rpms really fast could this be my problem
I have a 2014 ford fusion SE 1.5l ecoboost and I can't seem to get my sensor off to replace it. I took the battery out so I can get to the sensor as ease, but I just don't have enough force. Any suggestions
Good question- if I recall correctly there are 2 flats on the receiver for the sensor- meaning the chunk of metal that the sensor threads onto should have two flat faces for a wrench to hold onto. It isn't easy and it is a bit scary since you don't want to hurt the fuel lines...I do remember that. Have you used a second wrench on the flats?
Thank you so much for this video!! One quick question if you can help me. I am an expat living over in France. Bought a 2013 Ford S-Max with the same engine (1.6L). I think part numbers might be different on the European models. I have the exact same problem, but I am having a hard time finding the part over here. I can find plenty of High Pressure sensors. But not the low pressure one. Do you know the part number for the Low Pressure side sensor for cars in France?
Hi, i have a volvo v40 1.6 tgdi engine error accurs as P263662 which explained as “Fuei Pump B Low Flow / Performance. Algorithm Based Failures.
Signal compare failure”. Do you think as the same issue on video ?
Great video and explanation. Getting a P0088 code. Wondering if it could be caused by the low pressure sensor sending incorrect info to the system? (2015 Fusion 1.5 L)
Thank you very much for the encouragement! It could be, but also maybe not- after a quick google search P0088 refers to high pressure at the fuel rail. The low pressure fuel sensor sends signals to the computer that the fuel pump is pushing fuel at the correct rate from the gas tank- this is a low pressure supply, but it wants to see a constant supply. When it gets to the fuel rail before being injected into each cylinder, it gets sped up through the high pressure fuel pump, which has he high pressure fuel sensor located on the pump. P0088 is usually related to this component from what I've read- I have not had this code personally, so this is just from research, but it's not hard to get to luckily. Take off the wiper cowl/wipers, then take off the engine cover and maybe the air intake duct. You can then lift up the foam fit around the fuel rail and you should expose your fuel sensor- it's like this on our Escape at least- may be slightly easier with your Fusion since you have a longer engine bay area- might not need to take as much off. Give a shout if you have a chance to confirm / try it!
I don't have fuel problems but my 2015 Escape is now close to 6 years old and she has a little over 127k miles on her. Should I go ahead and replace it anyway for preemptive mantenence?
I wouldn't- sensors can be finicky sometimes. If you aren't seeing any symptoms, best leave it be. Uts not a typical maintenance item like oil servicing or brakes. A sensor is supposed to last, but when they fa they fail and it may be at 80k miles, it may be 200k miles. Just keep the reminder in your back pocket here of your car begins struggling at idle or feels like there are hesitations during acceleration or stalling. Good question Michael
Do you know the name or part number for the fuel line. I think I may have not been delicate enough. I don't feel the sensor actually loosened and I have fuel leaking. Just trying to see if this is something I can replace or if I need to take it to a shop at this point.
Hey everyone really need some community help! I just bought a 2017 escape with 140k. The car had a check engine light, and I was told it was the low pressure fuel sensor, but after following these steps & replacing the sensor, the issue persists. Any ideas? How can I diagnose exactly what’s wrong?
I bought a focus 2012 titanium manual 2.0... mark the code p0087 high fuel pressure rail system too low... change the spark plugs change the fuel pump... new... but change the rail fuel regulator I bought it used in junker the fault persists when I go slowly, fine, but if I step on it hard to run, it doesn't respond...
Did you fix your problem that’s how mine is ? Can’t seem to figure it out
I have a 2018 escape with 39,000 miles and the sensor already started failing. I’m getting it replaced after letting it sit 12 hours
Any videos on a 2015 Ford scape. A message pop up *Engine fault service now
Please help
I pulled 2 codes on my 15 fusion. P00C6 and P0087. Both still pending not permanent yet. Occasionally the idle gets erratic and the car just stalls out but I guess its not frequent enough to trigger the engine light. I need to figure this out before my wife gets stuck on the side of the road. I dread taking it to the stealer ship just for them to run diagnostics.
Did you figure out the problem? I have the same codes too
@@KengVang559 I replaced that sensor and the stalling issue hasn't returned since.
@@RellyOhBoy thanks will replace it see what happens
I have a new question for you, are you able to check the berrings in the rear differential? I have a grinding berrjng noise and there is no play in the rear wheels, starting to thjnk its in the rear diff but haven't got a clue how to check them. Thanks in advance.
Hey there @New Holland Skidsteer! Great to hear from you again- so you think it's actually within the differential housing itself? Is it constant grinding at varying speeds? Does it increase in intensity as you go faster?
@@HowToEscapeDIYTipsandReviews its a consistent humming, sounds like a wheel berring but unlike a normal wheel berring taking the weight off a normal bad wheel berring reduces the noise this doesn't decrease
@@HowToEscapeDIYTipsandReviews i know i had a bad front berring and i changed that, then i thought i had a bad rear one but the wheels are solid no play
I have a p00C7 code on my 2016 focus se and cant seem to find the problem any helpful tips or ideas on what it could be?
Its a 2.0 L engine btw!
Will this fix code 1450
Will this work on 2013?
P108b say low pressure fuel sensor b
Would it be safe to use a torque wrench for this?
Its a good question but I'd say snug and hand tight is all just because its a somewhat delicate hardline for the fuel. If you can hold the underside well, then perhaps, but I can look it up and see if there's a torque spec. If so it has to be on the lower side
This might be a problem with my 2.0 EB Fusion, was there any fuel spraying out when taking it off?
You can allow the system pressure to dissipate by letting the car sit for up to 12 hours and then remove it. However, along that point it is still only pressurized by the fuel pump so even if it did spray out, it would be manageable with a towel to surround it and absorb it. The high pressure fuel pump at the fuel rail is where you want to be careful but this sensor is upstream of that so it is not as scary. Just make sure to disconnect your battery first to prevent a spark in case you have a fuel mess.
@@HowToEscapeDIYTipsandReviews sweet thanks!
Where did you purchase the part?
Hi Tynisha, we have a amazon link here or you can find it on Rock Auto. Please let me know if you have any questions www.amazon.com/dp/B07XYG8LCV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_Q8GD9GV6DC92NVG45JGZ
Will this fix code p008A??
I have a 2017 ford escape and it starts but won't barely accelerate and is throwing poo87 and poo88 rail pressure too low and rail pressure to high bank 1 would u go with sensor
I have the exact same problem
And model
Can this cause missing
Hey @HUGEGIZMO 1, did you mean to type "misfiring"? If so, I would say likely not cause true misfiring, but it could feel like it. Misfiring is typically associated with plugs or coil packs, OR timing issues. However, when we had this sensor going bad, it would tell the computer improper fuel to air ratios and throw everything off, and our car would lurch forward and stall, and just keep hiccuping, often feeling like a misfire. It was sending faulty information to the computer controlling the fuel injectors which in turn affected the firing, so it could feel a lot like misfiring. However, there may be nothing wrong with the plugs or coil packs. Does that make sense? I am pretty sure that's what is going on at least. Hope it's helpful!
@@HowToEscapeDIYTipsandReviews thank you I'm going to go ahead and change the sensors
@@hugegizmo151 alright sounds good 👍 the hardest part for me was just getting to break free as we didn't want to be too rough with the fuel line area. However, just use a wrench on the flats of the sensor receptacle and you can get better leverage there
@@HowToEscapeDIYTipsandReviews ok I'll let you know how it goes thanks
Your escaped is 2013 and is 4 cylinders ?
Hi Hugo- yes we have the 2013 1.6L turbocharged 4 cylinder.
@@HowToEscapeDIYTipsandReviews and the problem disappeared ?
@@HowToEscapeDIYTipsandReviews I have the same problem I will try to change that sensor , I have a Ford escaped 2013 1.6 ecoboost like you and changed the fuel pump already and the problem still there what do you thing ?
@@hugomendez658 Hi Hugo! Sorry for the delay- to answer your first question, yes it did resolve the stalling issues and hesitations once warmed up. I have not experienced that ever since replacing the low pressure fuel sensor. I think if you've already replaced the fuel pump, the sensor is the next logical thing as well as somewhat of a low cost item (relatively speaking of course.) I know it worked for us and if you have the same engine and the same symptoms, it could certainly be the issue with yours as well!
Torque should be at 24
Thanks!
P108b
You should show exactly HOW 🤣👁🙏
Part. Number please
Hey Jay and sorry for the late response! The fuel sensor part number is BU5Z-9F972-B. You can search it and find it on places like Tasca Parts. We have our Amazon Affiliate link here if you'd like to do Amazon: amzn.to/3sqcVza
This is NOT a diagnosis. This is a guess.
It was an educated guess, but you're right. And it did work. Its CZcams, man. I'm not a tech, just sharing what worked and hopefully it can help. It would be awesome to have a shop full of pro tools and procedures but thats not the case :) thanks for cleaning up your last comment.
Don't worry it's not you I have a bone to pick with, it's ford. No ports to test pressure whilst the sensors are in the system! That! Is pure idiocracy. I am a certified mechanic and am in complete awe of the lack of diagnostic support from Ford, or the repair manual provided by a service I pay 200$ a month for!!!!
@@benhajdu4040
My friend
If the Ford is petrol engine then you do a test about fuel pressure if
1)petrol pump works, if the pump works
2) next you can test pressure regulator, if that works or there is a problem with pressure regulator
3) if the fuel pressure is OK then you can test the low pressure fuel sensor
Not one person has a diagnostic process? Tell me its a piece of shit system without telling me 😆