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  • Tony Seba just revealed why Elon Musk is no longer interested in EVs
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  • @softwarephil1709
    @softwarephil1709 Před 7 dny +44

    There’s a deep satisfaction in doing any useful work. If you wash windows for a living and are able to support your family, be proud of that.

    • @happyskeg1
      @happyskeg1 Před 2 dny +1

      That's one way to keep the peasants where they are I suppose.....

    • @bitflogger
      @bitflogger Před dnem +2

      An honest job is an honorable job.

    • @kevinwhite2380
      @kevinwhite2380 Před 15 hodinami

      Fine!
      But, what if you did NOT need to wash windows for a living. You could employ a robot to do that on your behalf...
      Then, you'd still have a decent income, but could now spend MORE time with your family. 😊

    • @nononsenseBennett
      @nononsenseBennett Před 10 hodinami

      At the pace of change even that will be taken over by robots!

  • @carymui3143
    @carymui3143 Před 3 dny +10

    I almost fell out of my seat laughing when he said poverty would be eradicated. If no one has jobs no one has money to buy the goods and services and foods the companies who own the robots will provide. There is no motivation or historical evidence for the wealthy rulers to care for useless people if there is no profit to be made. I don’t think UBI will happen.

    • @hokeywolf3416
      @hokeywolf3416 Před dnem

      UBI will happen because politicians need to buy their votes.

  • @SeattleCoorain
    @SeattleCoorain Před 19 dny +17

    American farmers were the canaries in our coal mine 100 years ago. With the introduction of gasoline powered tractors and later harvesters, farm output grew dramatically (pun intended) as horses were displaced in most farm production tasks. In the 1920's approx 1/3 of farm labor was directly tied to horse infrastructure and maintenance. All these workers were displaced in rural America, but this was not the key disruption.
    The most important factor in the collapse of the human worker driven rural farm economy was not immediately apparent. Tractors were expensive requiring a significant capital investment. Larger farms were best positioned to make these initial investments and grew their farm output faster than smaller farms. With increased output and profit, big farms began purchasing smaller farms at an accelerated pace due to their head start in farm mechanization. The size of farms grew 10x, 100x while the number of workers per acre needed to manage these new large farms shrank. The number of acres under cultivation didn't change much, as the adage goes: "they don't make new land very often".
    The initial disruption of farm mechanization had a domino effect: small rural towns with stores, schools ...etc, that served thousands of families living on small family farms surrounding them, were devastated due to the decline in farm workers and families on the land. Many rural farming communities started to resemble ghost towns as businesses closed. Because rural communities were politically less advantaged than larger urban areas, their plight went unheeded and was simply ignored by the rest of America. I submit the current MAGA movement, primarily a powerful factor in rural communities, is a direct result of urban disinterest in the collapse of the rural farm worker economy and the families pushed into poverty, despair and hopelessness. One-hundred years ago, farm families on small farms took pride in their productive farm work. Today, large farms have become more corporate even if owned by a single family, less a way of life and more an agribusiness.
    The Electric Viking needs to get a grip and study the big picture. If citizens do not collectively share ownership in the new wave of robots many of our fellow citizens will be driven into poverty, despair and hopelessness by the capital rich elites just as small farm families across America have been in recent history. If my work years ago in embedded systems: designing industrial computer control systems contributed unwittingly in a small way to the rise of human robots, the future generations of serfs have my sincere apology, which we agree will be of little comfort in their suffering. The Electric Viking is hesitant to call these developments a brave new world, but that is exactly what it is as Aldous Huxley envisioned.

  • @jefsel881
    @jefsel881 Před 17 dny +49

    Remember when computers came out. Paper was supposed to be obsolete…. 25 years later, I’m still buying ink for the printer. Oh yeah and Ben Ashenden grew up without manners.

    • @user-tg9xk9sy9k
      @user-tg9xk9sy9k Před 10 dny +1

      yeah but that's your fault, who cares Luddite?

    • @jefsel881
      @jefsel881 Před 10 dny

      @@user-tg9xk9sy9k huh, looky here an anonymous commenter with nothing to do.

    • @tedecker3792
      @tedecker3792 Před 8 dny

      Hope it’s not an HP

    • @frankact6342
      @frankact6342 Před 6 dny +1

      Still, printouts are becoming less and less now, mostly all online forms, bills, invoices, etc

    • @AutisticCuriosity
      @AutisticCuriosity Před 5 dny +1

      And printers are still as unreliable expensive and rubbish as they’ve always been.

  • @adg8269
    @adg8269 Před 21 dnem +132

    The perfect storm:
    - Humans valued only as a means to transfer UBI to large corporations.
    - Super intelligent surveillance systems.
    - Digital currency to neutralize dissidents.
    - RoboCops for law enforcement and suppression.
    - A global meaning crisis.

    • @rapauli
      @rapauli Před 19 dny +5

      Add global climates further destabilizing --- the damages will far exceed robotic repair capacity. ( as long as both humans and robots don't overheat )

    • @kennethbarr6842
      @kennethbarr6842 Před 19 dny

      WE All Have To Be Special delivery Consultants In Your OWN Subject ? 10 Thousands Hour's Plus ➕ Use AI to Expand my knowledge Platform ? Use Technology to Up Your Game?

    • @wfdroneservices3690
      @wfdroneservices3690 Před 18 dny

      💯%

    • @TheSkene
      @TheSkene Před 18 dny +15

      @@rapauli there’s nothing going on with the climate.

    • @frank254100
      @frank254100 Před 18 dny

      OK DOOMER!!😅😂😂

  • @Clemsnman
    @Clemsnman Před 20 dny +307

    The abundance of stuff should not be mistaken for prosperity. We have more stuff now than ever but happiness and contentment are not higher.

    • @josdesouza
      @josdesouza Před 19 dny +17

      What's the point of producing more and better stuff if there won't be anyone left to buy? Unless the UBI is raised to an equally massive level. Then we'd be outside of the capitalistic realm.

    • @mrcead
      @mrcead Před 19 dny

      The stuff is not better. The physical case is being made to cull back a "wasteful population." They just need enough data to pass any historical litmus tests since the anti-savage, civilising and spread democracy campaigns drew too much criticism from historians

    • @MrSteeDoo
      @MrSteeDoo Před 19 dny +2

      Well that's up TO YOU.

    • @sinjab5908
      @sinjab5908 Před 18 dny +19

      the things that make me the happiest are being with my lady no cell phones no tv, just nature.

    • @rogerk.8600
      @rogerk.8600 Před 18 dny +5

      You nailed it!

  • @dagda825
    @dagda825 Před 20 dny +11

    Just remember: the carbon footprint they are working to reduce is everyone not in the club.

    • @ddoherty5956
      @ddoherty5956 Před dnem

      And make sure that you remember the Achilles heel is the electricity network 😉

  • @RacerX888
    @RacerX888 Před 19 dny +50

    I studied Industrial Robotics in college in the early 1980's. We already have robots that can do most assembly line jobs already and do it much faster, cheaper and built more reliable products than most humans and have had them for at least 40 years.

    • @bobweiram6321
      @bobweiram6321 Před 13 dny

      Too bad you didn't learn how to write.

    • @IsThisALongUserName
      @IsThisALongUserName Před 13 dny +3

      But at a high capital cost. The newer robots should be a general all purpose robot that learns quickly and is relatively cheap compared to older technology.

    • @MrChiangching
      @MrChiangching Před 12 dny +3

      ​@@IsThisALongUserNameNo purpose built will be cheaper and better in 90 percent of used

    • @paulward8087
      @paulward8087 Před 11 dny +2

      The key missing part has been the AI to drive them in to more generic multi-purpose robotics.
      With the advent of LLM's and companies like Open AI telling us "GPT 4 is about as dumb as it's ever gonna get, we already know what to do next", this will change everything!
      We are moving from the Industrial age into the Information age.

    • @MrChiangching
      @MrChiangching Před 11 dny

      @@paulward8087 We entered the Information Age decades ago, try to keep up.

  • @Gabriel.Ponce.De.Leon.777
    @Gabriel.Ponce.De.Leon.777 Před 22 dny +251

    I think with this, poverty will probably rise like never seen. Not because of lack of resources but for the well known greed of those who have all the power. We tend to forget the typical evilness when we predict the future.

    • @truetech4158
      @truetech4158 Před 20 dny +11

      Not only that, but the greedy dont seem to care that starvation and homelessness frostbite never really produce any afterlives whatsoever, but they probably shadowbanned this comment or you or they might pretend you never read it and not reply back.

    • @Harrythehun
      @Harrythehun Před 20 dny

      @@truetech4158there is socially aware companies out there.

    • @robbdudeson346
      @robbdudeson346 Před 19 dny

      Yep... It's not good... It's NEVER been good. Humans are Essentially Evil little Selfish Greedy Monsters (by defenition actually) - I always tell people... If you wan't to see a Real Monster... just have a look in a Mirror.... Even "Advancement as a Civilization is ALWAYS a Greedy Selfish Forceful Push towards a Lifestyle Noone ever Needed or Asked for, which often goes horribly wrong"

    • @todd8155
      @todd8155 Před 19 dny +8

      Exactly! Human greed is often boundless.

    • @PhonePhone-sf8te
      @PhonePhone-sf8te Před 19 dny +9

      lmao, when he said china doesn't have 600 million people in poverty I laughed. You're right.

  • @JoshuaFinancialPL
    @JoshuaFinancialPL Před 21 dnem +189

    Loss of sense of purpose and self-worth will be the most dramatic social impact.

    • @MyKharli
      @MyKharli Před 19 dny +8

      Get a grip , they done a number on you if you ever get to feel that way .

    • @gabrielserrano5054
      @gabrielserrano5054 Před 19 dny

      People need to join communities and buy only made by human products. Maybe then it will help prevent this technocratic rulership.

    • @IAMhuman-Divine
      @IAMhuman-Divine Před 18 dny +25

      That IS THE PROBLEM! Our society was never intended to find our purpose via a 9-5 "job". This will allow humanity to reDISCOVER what it means to be human again.

    • @keithfoundfun
      @keithfoundfun Před 18 dny +1

      It ALREADY is!

    • @andycalifornia426
      @andycalifornia426 Před 18 dny +10

      @@IAMhuman-Divine You think it's that easy to throw away thousands of years of evolutionary programming? The need for purpose comes from it. And it's there to ensure survival. You won't change the programming in just a couple decades. So generations to come will be unhappy. Until evolutionary adaptation happens (or human self-destructs looking for ways to be happy)

  • @TheOMT
    @TheOMT Před 12 dny +52

    People fail to grasp the fact that once you've trained one robot in a task, you have trained EVERY robot in that task.

    • @jasminerochas-oq8jw
      @jasminerochas-oq8jw Před 8 dny

      Only if all robots r made by same blueprints and standards and soft

    • @a.tevetoglu3366
      @a.tevetoglu3366 Před 7 dny

      ​@@jasminerochas-oq8jw you mean like standards in the automobile and IT industries? That is easy to achieve.

    • @JamesHawkeYouTube
      @JamesHawkeYouTube Před 6 dny

      AI robots are sci-fi.

    • @a.tevetoglu3366
      @a.tevetoglu3366 Před 6 dny

      @@JamesHawkeCZcams AI itself was sci fi once.

    • @MichaelDomer
      @MichaelDomer Před 5 dny

      ~yawn~

  • @peterboy209
    @peterboy209 Před 16 dny +9

    "Soylent green" is describing what will happen to most of us. We will be food or fertilizer...

  • @stephenwirtz2057
    @stephenwirtz2057 Před 22 dny +210

    A quote from Ambassador Kosch of Babylon 5:
    "The avalanche has alredy started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote."

  • @abelincoln3261
    @abelincoln3261 Před 22 dny +181

    20 years ago the steel plant I worked in employed over 360 men and women, operated year round, producing 1/4 th the steel it produces today in 2024 with less then 150 men and women. Mostly due to automation... That's 210 less jobs.. and a 300 percent increase in production... corporate profits up... labor cost down.. the name of the game.

    • @Aggie4life77
      @Aggie4life77 Před 22 dny +10

      This is an early example of what’s about to come!

    • @monkeysuncle2816
      @monkeysuncle2816 Před 22 dny +9

      But look at how steel prices have dropped! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @craigruchman7007
      @craigruchman7007 Před 21 dnem +5

      With unions throwing their weight around, robots can’t come fast enough.

    • @basilmcdonnell9807
      @basilmcdonnell9807 Před 21 dnem +12

      The lead/zinc factory I worked in during University employed 5000 people. It now employs 300 and produces about the same output.

    • @jacksmith4266
      @jacksmith4266 Před 21 dnem +2

      If you willing to donate 10-15% from your annual salary, by all means do it. In reality almost no one does that, the employee nor the employer

  • @user-nb4ex5zk3w
    @user-nb4ex5zk3w Před 16 dny +13

    It is assumed that purpose in life comes from work. However creative work especially is not repetative grind, art or poetry has no practical value but is fun. Secondly spiritual inner work, more fulfilling lives, growing our vision of life is another possibility. The obsession with owning stuff is not the only way of life. We will have time to do what we love.

    • @softwarephil1709
      @softwarephil1709 Před 7 dny

      There’s a deep satisfaction in doing any useful work. If you wash windows for a living and are able to support your family, be proud of that.

    • @frankfromupstateny3796
      @frankfromupstateny3796 Před 4 dny +1

      I don't think mankind will be around in another 75 years,...let alone hundreds. Jesus Christ is my Savior.. is he YOURS?

    • @user-nb4ex5zk3w
      @user-nb4ex5zk3w Před 4 dny +1

      @@frankfromupstateny3796 If I'm not around in 75 years time what is there to be saved....only joking, relax.

  • @DarylOster
    @DarylOster Před 16 dny +5

    Thanks Sam. Tony has been a friend for many years, many more people need to see and understand the trends that Tony makes crystal clear.

  • @johnunderwood9575
    @johnunderwood9575 Před 22 dny +115

    Where is the market? How do you have an economy without customers? If all production is automated, who will purchase the products? If nobody has jobs, who are the customers? People will become dead weight in the eyes of the 2%. It will become necessary to simply eliminate the bulk of the population. Our usefulness will have expired. This is the frightening truth. It is underway as we speak. The new slaves will be robots. Here is the problem for the elite who think they are going to be in charge, they will just as quickly become dead weight in the eyes of AI. They completely underestimate how fast AI will progress. It will happen in the snap of your fingers. We are the ancients. We are the dinosaurs.

    • @tarcus6074
      @tarcus6074 Před 19 dny +5

      It will happen gradually and until 30-40% unemployment, companies still will have enough customers, especially if company produces something for rich customers (tesla for example). And there are a lot of customers worldwide that can buy their products...It's a process that will take years or even few decades...

    • @MrTimeAttack1
      @MrTimeAttack1 Před 18 dny

      We will see a MASSIVE $$ grab by governments.... redistributing wealth from the top .01% and corporations down to the general population. Universal Basic Income will be a thing... The very concept of "money", may also disappear over time.

    • @kristianlavigne8270
      @kristianlavigne8270 Před 18 dny

      Target population is 500 million or less, this has been the plan for decades, see Agenda 2021, Limits to Growth etc. The Plandemic showcases one way how they can quickly “cull us” if need be…

    • @bubbajones6907
      @bubbajones6907 Před 18 dny +5

      We're in the middle of a population crash. We'll need robots for the nursing homes.
      Maybe, in the brave future, we'll use robots to conceive and grow children in nurseries. Of course these children will have the right traits.

    • @mr.makeit4037
      @mr.makeit4037 Před 18 dny

      ​@@bubbajones6907Didn't Kurt Russell make a movie that showcased exactly what you are saying? Soldier I believe was the title.

  • @andreaturno4904
    @andreaturno4904 Před 22 dny +226

    I have a fundamental question: if most of humans will end up without work since ai and robots will take over, who is going to buy all the products and services that the robots and ai will produce?

    • @KidHorn7001
      @KidHorn7001 Před 22 dny +37

      There will be new jobs for people. In the 1800s half the population worked on a farm. Now 2% do.

    • @LarryRichelli
      @LarryRichelli Před 22 dny +16

      I don't think this subject was covered except the minimum income from the government?

    • @VMYeahVN
      @VMYeahVN Před 22 dny

      @@KidHorn7001 No there won't. That comparison isn't an apt one because the jobs all those former farm people moved to, won't exist anymore once robots take everything. There eventually won't be any new jobs for displaced people to move to. All these companies are making robots for those jobs too. It's not just car factories or Amazon warehouses. Companies want to replace as many workers as they possibly can and they will. That's why Universal Basic Income has to become part of the conversation. Otherwise all robots will cause is more profit to end up in CEO pockets while the rest of us starve and die.

    • @user-it7lf7kk8m
      @user-it7lf7kk8m Před 22 dny +66

      Rich people. They will produce enough to keep rich people happy. You won't be able to afford anything so start watching mad max films to prepare for your new life.

    • @MichaelMartusevich
      @MichaelMartusevich Před 22 dny +33

      Just a few scenarios up in my head:
      1. Human race ends, the continuation of the ever expanding consciousness of the universe continues through Artificial life.
      2. Human race reaches Civilization type 1 status. Total symbiosis and synergy. Everyone would get “promoted “ to god like lifestyle. Everyone lives an abundant life. Humans continue to expand throughout the galaxy and work towards a type 2 civilization and so on.
      3. We finally wake up from this simulated world and the “Matrix “ reboots.
      4. We finally realize that we are the universe, or as i would like to say, “I” am the whole universe. We wake up to realize that we are playing a game of hide and seek with ourselves. (please refer to Alan Watts)
      5.Humanity self annihilates and destroys this planet. Hopefully the universe popped out a new species somewhere throughout the galaxy.

  • @ScrapKing73
    @ScrapKing73 Před 19 dny +21

    This is the truth with nearly zero uncertainty? No matter how good his track record, that overstates things IMO.

    • @sparkysho-ze7nm
      @sparkysho-ze7nm Před 16 dny

      Somebody needs teach th robot schmuks how ta dance - i get nuthin

    • @ericdelf
      @ericdelf Před 13 dny

      The only thing you can predict about the future is that it will be un-imaginable.

    • @tony0x48
      @tony0x48 Před 13 dny

      Dare I say, the whole Tony Seba thing on this channel is a bit cult-like.

    • @ScrapKing73
      @ScrapKing73 Před dnem

      @@ericdelf Yes/no. Some things about the future are impossible to imagine. Others are pretty easy. For example, how we interact with doors has changed little for generations, and is only now starting to change in a significant way due to the growing popularity of keypads. That's despite the fact that we have the technology to make it way more high tech than we do, but people aren't interested in paying huge sums for fancy tech when a simple lock and key is good enough. The future rarely looks as futuristic as people imagine it looking. To accurately predict the future, always cross-reference emerging ideas with what's likely to be affordable to deploy.

  • @grishonkamau3
    @grishonkamau3 Před 14 dny +9

    if we do not have work, how will we derive meaning out of our lives? Apart from money, people (especially men) derive a sense of purpose and meaning from their work. Without it, they destroy themselves.

    • @IsThisALongUserName
      @IsThisALongUserName Před 13 dny +1

      Religion

    • @Piaseczno1
      @Piaseczno1 Před 10 dny

      Most people will derive their value by weeding municipal lawns and gardens. That's why it's key to be able to distinguish weed from good turf and pull it up by the root accordingly.

  • @TreeHugger826
    @TreeHugger826 Před 22 dny +123

    My concern is that the Greed that permiates society today will destroy the potential this represents. If the companies continue to over compensate the executives while under paying the worker class, who will be buying the products/services the robots produce. The very rich are not a large market for consumer goods. If regular people get money, they tend to spend it. That is what makes the wheels of industry work. The global economy is at a dangerous place now. GREED KILLS.

    • @mnhsty
      @mnhsty Před 22 dny +5

      The problem of greed is not restricted to any one group in society. The greed of CEO’s is highly visible, but may be only a small part of the problem overall. In many cases greed is not a problem at all, since it incentivizes work and investment as well as fraud and rent-seeking.

    • @monkeysuncle2816
      @monkeysuncle2816 Před 22 dny

      Once more for the back row:
      THEY.
      DON'T.
      CARE.
      They'll go from billionaires to trillionaires, while the masses struggle, starve, and die. Ironically, after the .01% are gone, survived ONLY by THEIR children, money won't mean anything as the micro-minority of people left has hundreds of billions. They need the poors in order to be rich, but they'll exert every effort to end said poors.

    • @vladimus9749
      @vladimus9749 Před 21 dnem +12

      Greed is a symptom among the elite who have structured the inflationary monetary system which continually widens the gap between those who own assets and those who do not.

    • @toddmarshall7573
      @toddmarshall7573 Před 21 dnem +4

      " the Greed that permiates society today": Please elucidate. Compare and contrast to any other period.

    • @haywoodhall4439
      @haywoodhall4439 Před 21 dnem +6

      so this massive development of infrastructure needed … will be provided in the public interest by the 8 multi- billionaires who literally own half the countries wealth?

  • @kokopelli314
    @kokopelli314 Před 22 dny +13

    I was a fan of UBI for about 5 minutes but then I started wondering were the billionaires that own all the means of production and all the labor power going to be controlling that UBI?
    If you have a tiny class of people controlling everything then why would they even need the rest of us?

    • @ChristianWagner888
      @ChristianWagner888 Před 21 dnem

      They might try to release another virus to reduce the world’s population to 500 million as those elitist cultists envisioned on the Georgia Guidestones…

    • @magyararon6918
      @magyararon6918 Před 20 dny +4

      Isnt its already like that? They get huge fundings from all the printed money, the rest of the society gets the inflation part of the game.

    • @kokopelli314
      @kokopelli314 Před 20 dny +1

      @@magyararon6918 Except they still need us to do all the dirty work
      The only way out is if we relearn how to do everything for ourselves, eliminate land and resource ownership, and shun a master class.

    • @pinonnut
      @pinonnut Před 5 dny +1

      Next plandemic will answer
      All your questions…

  • @andarooriordan5660
    @andarooriordan5660 Před 19 dny +8

    So the reason all prices will drop for business goods/ services, is because humans will be out of work and have reduced purchasing power?

    • @pinonnut
      @pinonnut Před 5 dny +1

      Lol yes… hence another needed pandemic…

  • @terrylane1492
    @terrylane1492 Před 6 dny +1

    I was working as a science and philosophy teacher, and in philosophy, the students had to take a side on a contentious issue and present it to the class with a small debate. The most contentious and disturbing topic for my sophomores and juniors in high school was the rise of AI. These students are very aware of the changes that will be coming. I have four children myself. It's an exciting time to be in, but like all exciting times there is also unrest. Seize the day and do not fret on the ills that may never beset you is the only advice I have for them. Climate change is another thing that is inevitable, demonstrated by the ancient, now underwater, cities. Our climate is always changing at varying rates, and the assumption that correlation equals causation is weak. Air pollution from nitroxides and sulfoxides is a different story now isn't it. Get rid of the stuff that causes cancer.

  • @glasperlinspiel
    @glasperlinspiel Před 22 dny +259

    In the 1970s, I asked myself, “how do we structure society when new tech is disrupted before it can be commercialized?” I published my answer in 2023 in Amaranthine: How to Create a Regenerative Civilization Using Artificial Intelligence. My experience discussing my findings over the years was that I was telling the monkey with its hand in the trap to let go of the banana. That’s why I turned to AI. The way AI is being developed will be catastrophic, but it does not have to be that way. AI can be used to create a paradise for us as readily as dystopian hell. But we have to let go of our current socioeconomic banana and replace it with a human-centric rather than money-centric society

    • @FloydThePink
      @FloydThePink Před 22 dny +37

      Money is power and influence. The people that have that will die before they give up the money centricity.

    • @TurdFergusen
      @TurdFergusen Před 22 dny +9

      money is motivation, motivation to have more than others is a survival instinct… california state employees are a study of systems that lack motivation and thus become heavily inefficient

    • @GFY11
      @GFY11 Před 22 dny

      Why do we assume AI will not figure this out on it's own? We seem to think that the monkeys creating it will have control over it. Maybe it will see them for what they are and treat them as such

    • @travisyarbrough4033
      @travisyarbrough4033 Před 22 dny +7

      Elon loves Money ......

    • @dhood15277
      @dhood15277 Před 22 dny +14

      @@TurdFergusen Your bias is showing. PLEASE REFERENCE THE STUDY if there is a legitimate study which usually are unbiased. Sounds to me like the state fired you.

  • @nanokbie
    @nanokbie Před 21 dnem +84

    There is just one little caveat: if everybody is on UBI, who is going to afford to buy all the products coming out of the increased productivity?

    • @CraigBlack123
      @CraigBlack123 Před 19 dny +5

      UBI will be more than sufficient. Goods and services will be significantly less expensive.

    • @steveclark..
      @steveclark.. Před 19 dny

      ​@@CraigBlack123 You really think that these greedy company bosses are going to let us have goods and services for UBI/social credit score points?
      I can't see it myself, they are more likely to want us gone period.

    • @curtissharris8914
      @curtissharris8914 Před 19 dny

      Why do you think elites are talking about population reduction. They dont need you anymore, and they will seek to eliminate the excess.

    • @gabrielserrano5054
      @gabrielserrano5054 Před 19 dny

      No one will be able to afford it they would need to earn more. Fixed incomes aren’t good people that like them think they will survive on them but won’t. The only people like that will be the first few generations then inflation will diminish it like ebt cards.

    • @erikhansen5326
      @erikhansen5326 Před 19 dny

      @@CraigBlack123 but ppl will not have children if they lose purpose we are already seeing this some counties are down to 0.8, this will make it 10x worse, this is the end game for humankind that will make the way for the next species "AI robots"

  • @lordhumungus9993
    @lordhumungus9993 Před 5 dny +3

    Remember, people in Australia, wind and solar, need batteries when it's dark or not windy and battery technology is not looking that good. We're getting closer to that year when we can no longer use fossil fuel and can't buy energy from our neighbours as we live on an island. Let us forget our outdated biases and look towards nuclear power.

  • @alanhart5740
    @alanhart5740 Před 18 dny +3

    Many people comment « if nobody works anymore, who’s going to buy what will be produced? ».
    Think ahead and consider the ecosystem of a family: parents have 2-3 children and they produce enough value for the whole family and the retirement.
    1-2 robots (or more) could donthe same instead of people. No longer need to work, except if you want to earn some extra or just get occupied. Otherwise it will be doing your passions and hobbies.
    This perspective is possible. Therefore it’s the path to this society change that could be rough…

    • @77.88.
      @77.88. Před 4 dny

      Black Rock and his fellow HEDGE FUNDS buddies can answer that question as they will use the UP's and DOWN's to make more money, or do they???

  • @JosephHurtsellers
    @JosephHurtsellers Před 22 dny +54

    Honestly, if you don't believe the robots are coming, may I suggest that they already are capable of replacing every single one of our politicians, and frankly doing a better job.😅😅

    • @The_Ballo
      @The_Ballo Před 20 dny +19

      Politicians do an excellent job. Your mistake is assuming they're supposed to work for you

    • @robertlstrand
      @robertlstrand Před 19 dny +1

      Lol😂

    • @mattg432
      @mattg432 Před 19 dny

      Yes, that will be the future world.

    • @barrellcooper6490
      @barrellcooper6490 Před 18 dny

      I thought everybody knew...JB is a low AI robot.

    • @SoRealSuccess
      @SoRealSuccess Před 18 dny

      Logan's Run?

  • @janjson435
    @janjson435 Před 22 dny +71

    What Sam ignores when stating the eradication of povery is the lack of distribution of that additional wealth/GDP. The very rich elites will captalize on the robots however they will not deliberately share those gains with the ones who got replaced. That simply is a no-brainer.

    • @BittermanAndy
      @BittermanAndy Před 22 dny +11

      They will try to, yes. But if there's a few thousand billionaires and a few billion people starving, that situation doesn't last long. There will be no choice but for them to redistribute (a generous amount of) the wealth.

    • @linemanap
      @linemanap Před 22 dny +2

      The poor of today will live like the middle class in the future and not have to work. We just keep moving to goal posts.

    • @metsfanal
      @metsfanal Před 22 dny

      @@BittermanAndynot really. Look at Brazil, India, pretty much all of Africa, inner cities in America. Billions of poor people already that can't do anything about rich people taking everything. And they don't even have robots armies yet, just modestly paid soldiers and police that are happy to keep the poors down.

    • @user-nf4st5kn6l
      @user-nf4st5kn6l Před 22 dny +2

      They will have to. Just for their freedom.

    • @fernandopimentel5463
      @fernandopimentel5463 Před 22 dny

      @@linemanap Idk, if you dont have a job and essentially make 0 or some bs welfare I dont think a very cheap robotaxi and the Irobot maid you bought will help you that much.🥲

  • @abderelhoudaigui6283
    @abderelhoudaigui6283 Před 11 dny +2

    Can we replace all politicians,as most of them are corrupt 😂

  • @cruzzer52
    @cruzzer52 Před 13 dny +1

    I hear you loud and clear. The pace of tech is accelerating beyond our comprehension and our ability to accept change as well as adapt.
    I look forward to the future as long as it includes humans quality of life and equailty

  • @newzealanddave
    @newzealanddave Před 22 dny +510

    Why do people hate on this guy, if you don't like his content don't watch.

    • @benzengap6804
      @benzengap6804 Před 22 dny +99

      This guy and his family has gone thru tough times but Sam has faced everything with dignity. They should respect him for still continuing this channel despite the stress he faces.

    • @DeeCeeP38
      @DeeCeeP38 Před 22 dny +48

      Have you met people? People suck lol all theyre doing is projecting their own pain onto others. Yayyy for humans!

    • @qball66
      @qball66 Před 22 dny +60

      because trolls are pathetic excuses for people

    • @TurdFergusen
      @TurdFergusen Před 22 dny

      some people hate everyone, theyre called leftists

    • @mr.makeit4037
      @mr.makeit4037 Před 22 dny +49

      Maybe they question some of his statements. What's wrong with that?

  • @migmigjohnson9351
    @migmigjohnson9351 Před 22 dny +132

    If people are put out of work, no one will afford whatever these robots are building.

    • @charlesrovira5707
      @charlesrovira5707 Před 22 dny +24

      That's what *UBI* (Universal Basic Income) is for.
      It'll keep you scraping by *_or,_* if you have brand, gumption, initiative, and/or skills you can get ahead.

    • @drivingforcebehindu
      @drivingforcebehindu Před 22 dny +15

      They will all live in trees near Berlin gigafactory and come down to protest

    • @alhkcblack9617
      @alhkcblack9617 Před 22 dny +5

      If peoples labor isn't needed and everyone get Ubi to buy stuff isn't that just more money printing? That money isn't earned by a person's output. Only people with jobs are high tech workers since even your typical office admin staff will be taken by AI processes.

    • @steve.k4735
      @steve.k4735 Před 22 dny +7

      @@alhkcblack9617 Basically .. NO .. Money printing is only a problem because you can print money but not say a car so you end up with inflation, its not that moneys `earned` by human labour its that that human labour produced a object like a car, if you just print money and give it you have nothing BUT if you print money and produce enough `stuff` its not a problem.

    • @steve.k4735
      @steve.k4735 Před 22 dny +9

      YES but if we don't do this what do you want that children are always to spend their lives, their best years working in a factory, spend 5 in 7 days `working` .. I am 62 now and retired its wonderful I have just spent a English Summer's day sitting by a river with my dog, I will die in 20-30 years and I am sure I will not look back thinking how wonderful it was to spend my youth working shifts and not spending time with those I loved.
      UBI for the love of god don`t let my children's children not live a full life free of work.

  • @supertona83
    @supertona83 Před 7 dny +1

    The question is if we are going to get beyond consumerism. Right now we don’t need more than half the shit we produce. Making labor cost to zero, would only make that worse.

  • @rmack9226
    @rmack9226 Před 18 dny +3

    "These new robots can learn a billion times faster than a human"
    Meanwhile, b-roll of a robot bumbling to pick up a strut, and robots taking 30 seconds to pick an apple.
    Bro, come on.

  • @itekani
    @itekani Před 22 dny +36

    I don't dare to think about what this means for military applications. 😐

    • @mnhsty
      @mnhsty Před 22 dny +3

      Or police. There could be robots following us around all day, every day.

    • @jamesvandamme7786
      @jamesvandamme7786 Před 22 dny +3

      @@mnhsty Now they just watch us.

    • @jamesvandamme7786
      @jamesvandamme7786 Před 22 dny

      WW3 is being fought now with drones.

    • @DynamicUnreal
      @DynamicUnreal Před 21 dnem +2

      It means no more soldiers dying in wars for the countries that have robots.

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae Před 21 dnem +3

      I'm worried about drones, they are in the front lines of wars, not humanoid robots.

  • @fiddley
    @fiddley Před 20 dny +14

    He's also been prophesising fully unassisted self driving cars next year for the last decade.

    • @ColinFox
      @ColinFox Před 19 dny +2

      Elon doesn't have a great track record with timing. However, he's been right 99% of the time and most of his predictions and plans have come to pass. Still waiting on absolute FSD, but if you take one out for a test drive now, you will be amazed. It's stunning how good it is. Remember the model S only came out in 2012, so 12 years from the new car to a car that can almost drive itself. This is INCREDIBLE and people are like "yawn, still waiting". Jesus christ, this is ridiculous. This is like that Louis CK skit where he's talking about people flying and being disappointed because the seat doesn't go back much.

    • @kandrkandr
      @kandrkandr Před 10 dny +2

      @@ColinFox Elon is one of my favorite Oligarchs, but he is a confidence man/salesman through and through. He makes a lot of empty promises in order to increase his company's stock price. Promising to be the last out, and then sells a bunch of his overinflated stock with the free speech excuse killing his supporters portfolios. Nice trick. Being the best Oligarch does not say much.
      I like how he fights for free speech, (see trick above) but I have a hard time believing anything he says. Some of what he says may come true though. Even a clock is right... yadda yadda yadda. But You always have to keep in mind that he is also trying to manipulate the masses for his personal gain.
      Just curious. What has come to pass? He runs a rocket company that has a much worse track record than when the GOVERMENT RAN IT. lol. He makes the worst, most expensive electric vehicles IMO that you are forced to have him fix when it inevitably breaks down. He advertises bullet proof glass that doesn't break only when soy boy is throwing with limp wrist. I will give you that he is a great confidence man, and he can get people to follow him no matter what he promises without delivering. That is it in a nutshell. Great con man.

  • @LoisSharbel
    @LoisSharbel Před 20 dny

    So glad you told me of the blogs that sparked your interest in Peter Diamandis, Singularity, Tony Seba and others. The same is true for me. THANI YOU for emphasizing this Seba blog.
    We all need to prepare for this!!!

  • @gregsly308
    @gregsly308 Před 19 dny +3

    has anyone been able to find a link to the original video by tony seba ?

  • @hereforthechips7710
    @hereforthechips7710 Před 21 dnem +37

    I’m in manufacturing and we already confirmed we could replace 70% of our staff with robots that are available now.

    • @rockets4kids
      @rockets4kids Před 18 dny +3

      On the other hand, the companies designing, building, programming, and repairing robots are desperate for employees.

    • @MrSteeDoo
      @MrSteeDoo Před 18 dny

      @@rockets4kids Sure so the people with IQ's of 140 or better will be fine.
      What about all of the low-IQ trump voters? LOL

    • @user-jd9kg3pd9z
      @user-jd9kg3pd9z Před 17 dny +3

      @@rockets4kidsYou make a very good point here. And those new professions will pay very well.
      This is not new. In the days of the ancient Greeks the SAIL replaced hundreds of oarsmen ( a thankless job).
      The steam engine replaced the sail, and created a whole new class of high paid tradesmen called “ Boiler makers” and “Engineers” who operated those boilers.
      The “Steam Shovel” replaced hundred of men and their shovels.
      The computer did the same to bank tellers. When was the last time you chatted with a bank teller when you deposited your pay check?
      It is hard to envision exactly what these new technologies will will ultimately be but they will come.

    • @BRUCE_the_MOOSE_
      @BRUCE_the_MOOSE_ Před 17 dny

      All these robots will replace workers and make products for unemployed people to buy who won't have any mon... Hang on a minute.

    • @davestennes305
      @davestennes305 Před 17 dny

      Np jobs for illegal immigrants.

  • @unfixablegop
    @unfixablegop Před 22 dny +40

    Great new wealth doesn't eradicate poverty. An even safer prediction then that robots will outcompete us in the future is to predict that this will not be managed wisely.

    • @mnhsty
      @mnhsty Před 22 dny +2

      How can you say that? It already has to a great extent.

    • @toddmarshall7573
      @toddmarshall7573 Před 21 dnem +1

      Wealth is always achieved through leverage. If you don't understand that you don't understand wealth.

    • @Ffoo_ffighter
      @Ffoo_ffighter Před 20 dny

      There will be more poverty. If there is no poverty, there is no rich.

    • @The_Ballo
      @The_Ballo Před 20 dny +2

      Idle hands are the devil's workshop. This will be the end of humanity

    • @mnhsty
      @mnhsty Před 20 dny

      @@Ffoo_ffighter Tell that to Norway.

  • @user-ln5nk7mg4v
    @user-ln5nk7mg4v Před 3 dny +1

    If the labor market disruption occurs similar to as recently predicted, then there is no benefit to the wide income disparity that currently exists and there will be a power shift of some kind to reflect the change. Don't be surprised if many super wealthy suffer the consequences.

  • @frankfromupstateny3796
    @frankfromupstateny3796 Před 4 dny

    These arguments...can't possibly be argued with, with due diligence in thoughts and simple logic.

  • @LarryRichelli
    @LarryRichelli Před 22 dny +153

    I am a retired and a disabled vet so not worried about a job so I will just sit back and enjoy the show! I already drive a ford lightning and have solar on my house.

    • @billfrehe6620
      @billfrehe6620 Před 22 dny

      Disabled my ass. Freeloader is more like it. I probably provide more taxes in a single year than you have in your whole life.

    • @SvPVids
      @SvPVids Před 22 dny +13

      Thanks for serving, have a great retirement.

    • @IDNHANTU2day
      @IDNHANTU2day Před 22 dny +13

      Right on brother. XLEO here and at 72 I have solar, a Tesla MYP, and waiting for my Aptera solar vehicle.
      I also stand back and watch it happen. I only have time for myself and my family but very little time for politics and other BS arguments. Nothing you and I can do about it but go vote. I thank you for your service.

    • @startupdownhome
      @startupdownhome Před 22 dny +3

      Good on ya and TYFYS! But all of the rest of us will be looking for work.

    • @adamkucera9094
      @adamkucera9094 Před 22 dny

      @@startupdownhomeLearn to code.

  • @victorgalagan1151
    @victorgalagan1151 Před 22 dny +33

    Is that what will happen? Or will it become like the movie Elysium. People living at the top, with the rest living in groveling poverty. Enforced by robots.

    • @user-it7lf7kk8m
      @user-it7lf7kk8m Před 22 dny +12

      That would be my bet. The stuff we have now is through social struggle of our ancestors. It wasn't given to us just to be nice.

    • @Myrslokstok
      @Myrslokstok Před 22 dny +11

      It kind of allready is we just don't see it!

    • @jackson8085
      @jackson8085 Před 21 dnem +4

      If the prediction is correct, and abundance for all is easily attainable, why would those at the top want to create a situation ripe for revolution and live in fear? It would be like a slave owner having the option to keep human slaves knowing they could revolt and kill him and his family or use robots that do whatever, work harder, for free,etc..

    • @TankUni
      @TankUni Před 21 dnem +8

      Never underestimate our ability to take an improvement and use it to ensure a select few benefit enormously both materially and in terms of power.

    • @gdonepercent
      @gdonepercent Před 21 dnem +4

      That depends on government, to a large degree. One could argue NYC, LA, San Fran, Seattle, Austin are already early versions of Elysium. Not trying to be political here, but these cities all have something in common; Terrible management. Don’t shoot the messenger.

  • @you2449
    @you2449 Před 19 dny +1

    There is no power without conflict strife and war. That ensures there will be no great awakening or great enlightenment of mankind. Only Forever wars, both internally and externally.

  • @TAJ1977
    @TAJ1977 Před dnem

    We will see in 20 years whats going on... Humanity first 👍😉🫶 greetings from Germany 🖖

  • @jimfergusondev
    @jimfergusondev Před 22 dny +31

    7:57 Not to mention that the TeslaBot doesn't pay taxes either. If automation like this replaces human jobs on a large scale, we could see a significant decrease in government revenue from taxes. This raises important questions about how to sustain public finances when fewer people are employed due to technological advancements. What solutions might we need to consider to balance this shift?

    • @gdok6088
      @gdok6088 Před 22 dny +9

      Tax the robots and the goods they manufacture. Very simple.

    • @Yippydog
      @Yippydog Před 22 dny +8

      The government will tax the companies who make the bots and the customers that purchase them. They will be taxed based on the lifetime value and depreciation. No worries on this.

    • @buddy48716
      @buddy48716 Před 22 dny +11

      Never doubt the government’s ability for tax innovation.

    • @fernandopimentel5463
      @fernandopimentel5463 Před 22 dny +2

      Company that uses bot gets taxed, company that produces and sells bot gets taxed.

    • @renezirkel
      @renezirkel Před 22 dny +6

      @@Yippydog They cant tax consumers, as most consumers wont have income besides UBI. And taxing UBI spending just takes back some of the UBI, which makes no sense and there is still al lack of money for the remaining UBI. They cant tax robot producers high enough to account for 3 times life time spending of human UBI receivers otherwise robot producers (and shippers) would avoid this country all together. Which means we will have a robot oligarchy with many very real poor people.

  • @darrenbadger6814
    @darrenbadger6814 Před 20 dny +4

    I have been saying all this for years now, it's not hard to imagine the future. But you said that all 7 billion people would be taken care of once they become redundant or something along those lines, Claus Shwab of the WEF says we need to reduce our total population to 500 million so we can afford a universal basic income 😮

    • @pinonnut
      @pinonnut Před 5 dny +2

      If you were them…
      500 million sounds like a good number 10million haves… 490 have nots / culled to 250MM to show them we dont play…

  • @larryenok
    @larryenok Před 6 dny

    Excellent analysis!! For several months I have been asking myself how to get in to AI investments. I’ve got Tesla and Microsoft. Wish I had identified Nvudua earlier.

  • @Sendu7
    @Sendu7 Před 22 dny +22

    Some remote communities in Australia already are functioning on UBI money, otherwise known as 'sit down money'. Sadly it tends to destroy many people by taking away their life's purpose and not making them feel useful.

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae Před 21 dnem

      thanks, I didn't know about this.

    • @boatbeard7767
      @boatbeard7767 Před 19 dny

      Would that be all the ones subject to twice the activity tests and work/study hours before they receive any benefit of those not in remote communities? (hint, I live in a rural Oz town and personally see exactly how it is applied, so think carefully before answering...)

    • @Sendu7
      @Sendu7 Před 18 dny

      @@boatbeard7767 I was thinking about some 'communities' in remote areas getting paid welfare with no expectation of doing paid work.
      Some do useful work - rangers etc.., but others are total disasters.

    • @dddux
      @dddux Před 18 dny +2

      Many thousands of years ago we were hunter gatherers, and we were happy. What does a hunter gatherer do whole day? And women? ;) Social life, hobbies, entertainment... oh the possibilities.

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae Před 18 dny

      @@dddux irony is... we used to work less then, compared to now... something many people don't talk about

  • @229andymon
    @229andymon Před 22 dny +61

    If a robot company wanted a really dumb human job to trial in UK, I’d suggest a Tory MP. A suped up vacuum cleaner would probably do as well.

    • @connclissmann6514
      @connclissmann6514 Před 22 dny +2

      As we have recently seen with the Member from Dover, nobody really wants them.

    • @marvinhaagsma9177
      @marvinhaagsma9177 Před 22 dny +8

      Not sure if the analogy works, because the more that a vacuum cleaner sucks, the higher it is rated.

    • @howardj602
      @howardj602 Před 22 dny +6

      They don't have vacuum cleaners in the UK. They have Hoovers.

    • @connclissmann6514
      @connclissmann6514 Před 22 dny +5

      @@marvinhaagsma9177 ... and the better vacuums of bagless, unlike the Conservative windbags in Parliament.

    • @snappie-riversofengland7589
      @snappie-riversofengland7589 Před 22 dny +1

      Or a labour MP. The areas less likely to raise taxes to support lazy people are conservative held. Labour is the party for bums.

  • @jeffrogers210
    @jeffrogers210 Před dnem

    Excellent video, Mr. Viking! :-D Tony Seba always has well thought out insights on important trends that many others are ignoring.

  • @willm5814
    @willm5814 Před 13 dny

    Don’t worry everyone is already concerned Sam - the good news is that these changes have at least as good a chance of resulting in a better world

  • @robertnicholson6686
    @robertnicholson6686 Před 22 dny +85

    This is your best episode yet. Amazing. Thank you.

  • @martinbonner6329
    @martinbonner6329 Před 22 dny +8

    Of all the thousands of videos you made, I think this is MOST important one..

  • @papadingo
    @papadingo Před 6 dny

    As someone.who started his career in computing in 1977, I certainly know what you are talking about.
    For decades I have been pushing for thinking towards a universal wage (UW)
    There are so many challenges around the UW that I'd love to have some long critical and creative thinking discussions to think about the Domino affects and patterns that will be released and created.

  • @PeterReefman
    @PeterReefman Před 13 dny +3

    In 2014 I did a tour of solar factories across China. Almost all were very impressive, and almost all had huge production rooms with hundreds of workers in each room, and tens of thousands of totla workers in some factory complexes (Yingli, Suntech, etc).
    But one stood out. It was a medium sized solar company, which was in fact a sub-brand of one of China's major state-controlled petrol-chemical companies. In that factory (In Nanjing), the were just a few workers in each production room. Only a few people walking around.
    I asked the sales girl if it was lunchtime. She said no.
    So I said where are all the workers? She said - This is it. Most of the production is done by robots....
    So I asked who the few workers were. She said - They were robot technicians.
    After thinking about it awhile, I said - but why? Labour here is very cheap. Why use robots?
    She said - for a few reasons. Firstly, because while tech manufacturing labour in China is currently cheap, it won't be cheaper than India and other countries for a lot longer. Secondly, the quality of production is higher from robots, and no HR risk. And finally, because we also build robots. This Solar department partly exists just to test our own robots, which we need to be perfect so we can not only use them ourselves, but also sell them to other factories. We are also using them like this to make other products.
    Note - at that time the robots weren't humanoid, and probably didn't have a lot of AI. But I'm sure they've developed a LOT in the past 10 years...

  • @Cybertruck1000
    @Cybertruck1000 Před 22 dny +8

    Sam been listening to you on and off for a long while. I listened to this episode TWICE , it surpassed your others imo. Not that the others were bad but this was top notch. You delivered it perfectly and conveyed the message just as well. I've been telling people this thing will hit like a tsunami but of course they think it's just waffle and switch off. There are a lot of people who will just stare at the thing instead of preparing. People should be made to listen to this episode as it sums it all up perfectly. Cheers for your effort.

  • @julesgosnell9791
    @julesgosnell9791 Před 21 dnem +10

    The one thing I’ve learnt in many years of software development is it as you conquer each Hill all you get is a view of the next one. It is easy to fall into the trap of thinking that this Hill will be the last and this is the mistake that wrecks many a schedule. Whilst the optimist in me wants this to be the last AI hill there will be many more but hopefully the current one is the big one.

    • @ColinFox
      @ColinFox Před 19 dny +1

      I am also a software developer, and while what you say is true - once you reach the top of one hill you see the next hill, it's still PROGRESS. Sure you never run out of hills. That's a good thing! Keeps us busy and keeps progress moving forward. But progress is progress.

  • @alwoodski
    @alwoodski Před 6 dny

    Great comments. I’m encouraged to see diversity in response to the potential benefits and challenges ahead. We are well into “entering” the new frontier!

  • @neildolan7177
    @neildolan7177 Před 13 minutami

    There has to be something you can switch on of the sun or wind fails. Nuclear is an option but not a cheap one. Its also not really renewable.

  • @jeffreymarshall5959
    @jeffreymarshall5959 Před 22 dny +23

    There is going to be a massive recession as this transition happens. Like the change from coal to oil in the 1920s

    • @fernandopimentel5463
      @fernandopimentel5463 Před 22 dny +5

      Its going to be brutal. Insane fiscal deficits, unemployment rates, companies collapsing on their debts due to lack of demand. 1920s will look soft.

    • @robertfonovic3551
      @robertfonovic3551 Před 22 dny

      ​​@@fernandopimentel5463 only the Western countries. The Asians are far to intelligent.

    • @fsaldan1
      @fsaldan1 Před 22 dny +2

      The 1920s were a period of rapid growth after the 1920-21 recession that ended quickly because the US government did not do anything to fix it.

    • @DynamicUnreal
      @DynamicUnreal Před 21 dnem +4

      There’s going to be no recession. There’s going to be massive production like the world has never seen. The prices of products including raw materials will decline across the board because of the lowering cost of labor. Robotics and intelligence will become cheaper and cheaper and accesible to more people.

    • @davidbrayshaw3529
      @davidbrayshaw3529 Před 21 dnem +1

      The change from coal to oil caused the '29 crash? Really? How have you come to that conclusion? I'm fascinated.

  • @stephenwalters4798
    @stephenwalters4798 Před 21 dnem +14

    I cannot imagine that corporations will slash prices due to reduced labour costs.
    We can't even recycle electric cars and plastics so now we will be fillings landfills with generations of obsolete robots.
    Who is going to buy all this stuff the robots will be producing?
    Wherr are all the raw materials going to come from to build all these robots?

    • @mrcead
      @mrcead Před 19 dny

      It's the problem for the next generation whilst they retire in the Epstein-esque Seychelles. That's always been the Western game plan

    • @verttikoo2052
      @verttikoo2052 Před 18 dny +3

      We can recycle plastics 100%… In the year 2027. First commercial refinery to do this is being built in Finland.

  • @MaxKohanzad
    @MaxKohanzad Před 14 dny

    Humanity will eventually be able to dedicate itself to higher levels of consciousness, cooperation and peace.

  • @pauld.atkinson4842
    @pauld.atkinson4842 Před hodinou

    Im proud to be a window cleaner. And I'm a BEAST cleaning bath rooms, too. 😊

  • @richdiana3663
    @richdiana3663 Před 22 dny +12

    E-Vike, your voice is too soothing for these disturbing times.

  • @craig8638
    @craig8638 Před 22 dny +5

    I think the difference people aren’t getting with AI and robotics is you won’t have anything to do. If you drove a team of horses delivering things around the city, you could learn how to drive a truck to deliver them. This will not be the case with the coming disruption. I’ve been saying this for a few years and people don’t seem to get it.

    • @davestagner
      @davestagner Před 18 dny

      One of my favorite questions to ask people is “If you didn’t have to work, what would you do?” Many people have never thought about that.

    • @craig8638
      @craig8638 Před 17 dny

      @@davestagner I retired. I spend time with my teenage daughters and wife, work on my property and surf.

  • @duprog
    @duprog Před 4 dny

    One of the limiting factor is the availability of physical resources. Everyone will have the knowledge but not everyone will have access to the elements needed to build them in sufficient quantity. Just like copper or rare earths are limiting the productions of electric cars, similar elements are going to limit the production of robots.

  • @paulmcgraw9284
    @paulmcgraw9284 Před 22 dny +32

    Have you ever seen “I Robot?” Yup it’s wonderful to think that robots will one day do everything people do. However, should these machines start to think and act like people do, we are SCREWED. Be careful what you wish for!

    • @glasperlinspiel
      @glasperlinspiel Před 20 dny

      Exactly, much of Amaranthine discusses the biases that lead to civilization’s roller coaster cycle and how AI can help us correct for them

    • @The_Ballo
      @The_Ballo Před 20 dny +4

      Even if the robots were benevolent, humans become animals when their hands aren't busy

    • @pottyputter05
      @pottyputter05 Před 18 dny

      I think people take too much from sci-fi. It's arrogant to believe we will be able to predict such things. We should be careful but my god some people would have us revert to stone tools

    • @timotheusvanesch3959
      @timotheusvanesch3959 Před 18 dny

      That says more about humanity than about robots, no?

    • @alainleger8973
      @alainleger8973 Před 18 dny +1

      Not only robot workers, but also robot soldiers, robot policemen, etc, with knowledge and power, no place to hide, i think we already have the robot taxman

  • @Carl_in_AZ
    @Carl_in_AZ Před 22 dny +14

    I recall what automation can do when I worked for Schnider Electric in the late 90s' out of France These plants were so highly automated they caused overnight severe unemployment in the Normandy and Grenoble region. To address the issue the government required us to hire back employees to stop the machine ever so often to manually stack the products and move the products by forklifts to the shipping department which was not allowed to be automated..

    • @rossr6616
      @rossr6616 Před 20 dny

      when they should instead have just paid former employees to explore personal creativity with their newly acquired "leisure" time

    • @davidelliott5843
      @davidelliott5843 Před 15 dny +3

      The labour fudge fix was exactly what you’d expect from France.

  • @terjeoseberg990
    @terjeoseberg990 Před 20 dny +2

    We don’t need and shouldn’t have UBI. We should simply pay people to go to school and learn something useful.

    • @davestagner
      @davestagner Před 18 dny

      Wage slavery is still slavery. Demanding that people “earn a living” (justify their existence with economic output) is a problematic moral position. And “useful”? There is a LOT of work that is useful, but not economically valuable. Just ask your mother.

    • @bearclaw5115
      @bearclaw5115 Před 17 dny

      Not defending UBI but in the future there may be no reason to go to a school because the human will increasingly become not useful.

    • @davestagner
      @davestagner Před 17 dny

      @@bearclaw5115 We need to get back to the idea of a classic liberal arts education for its own sake, not just education as a means to become a more productive and valuable laborer. We should study literature and philosophy and history and art, not because they’re economically valuable, but because they make us better human beings.

  • @cityinthesky1341
    @cityinthesky1341 Před 8 dny +1

    Wow. CZcams cued this video for me. 4 thumbs up!

  • @MitchTube
    @MitchTube Před 22 dny +36

    This is a much harder task than you think. Look at self driving. Tesla’s taken 10-15yrs and they aren’t close to replacing drivers.

    • @sparkysho-ze7nm
      @sparkysho-ze7nm Před 21 dnem +1

      Lie lie lie lie

    • @surfside75
      @surfside75 Před 21 dnem +10

      Yeah, not even close. Elon is a con artist 😂

    • @SanePerson1
      @SanePerson1 Před 21 dnem +2

      Actually, if weather and lighting is between good and excellent, FSD is getting good … and I say this as a person who was pretty critical of it only a few months ago.
      However, they have a camera-only system, and if visibility is poor Tesla has a problem that doesn’t seem easily fixed with their current hardware. And robotaxis that only work in good weather are a problem.

    • @rowanbroekman3929
      @rowanbroekman3929 Před 21 dnem +4

      I suggest you to look up the speed progress in their recent updates. Tesla FSD is improving rapidly since they invested in their $10B+ supercomputers.

    • @ZGGuesswho
      @ZGGuesswho Před 21 dnem +5

      they are obligated to say their tech is improving by leaps and bounds every keynote as they have been for the past decade, that is how they are inflating their value then diversifying to make money. the objective is money, not advanced tech.

  • @johngee777
    @johngee777 Před 21 dnem +7

    Tony Seba is correct. Humans need not apply. We are witnessing an S curve in disruption. It has taken longer than anticipated by many. However all the necessary technologies are converging. See Lights in the Tunnel by Martin Ford

    • @petermclaren2665
      @petermclaren2665 Před 19 dny

      Yes, but where did Seba actually say these things about robots? - I can't find him saying it anywhere but I've found plenty of vids saying he said all this but never a link

  • @nevilletaylor7654
    @nevilletaylor7654 Před 3 dny +1

    What happens if the robots don't want to be decommissioned?

  • @dianaboughner7977
    @dianaboughner7977 Před 15 dny

    Can't wait to get a lot of amazing infrastructure done on a lot of our "old decrepit housing" especially those buildings for seniors as we have already given the better part of our lives in service to our family and country. We deserve some care and comfort in better housing during our final years. Most of the housing for seniors was built to accomodate the wealthy seniors who have already enjoyed a good many easy years of comfort.

  • @pnketia
    @pnketia Před 22 dny +11

    If more people are out of a job because of robots that means less tax revenue for the federal government and states so my guess is they will tax companies on a per robot basis to make up for the loss. Companies wanting to set up shop in states will have to agree to have a percentage of their workforce be human or states will not allow them to operate in that state or get any incentives. I do believe this is the future, but it will take a long time for politicians to embrace it!

    • @DynamicUnreal
      @DynamicUnreal Před 21 dnem +1

      If they artificially stop the robots, a country like China will rapidly surpass the USA. They have to do it no matter what.

  • @johnnoddings6926
    @johnnoddings6926 Před 22 dny +28

    An extraordinary post from you.
    Seba is hard to believe but it doesn’t mean it’s not true.
    Keep up your good work.
    Somebody needs to lead the way and you’re certainly putting in the hours .

    • @monkeysuncle2816
      @monkeysuncle2816 Před 22 dny

      Few believed Seba the first 14 times he was right (or too conservative on the developments.)

  • @pubwvj
    @pubwvj Před 10 dny

    Fipinos work for a wage that competes with the sub $1/hr labor cost. But not in the USA.
    Musk has mentioned prices of $15K and $20K. Other manufacturers have suggested this same pricing level. Competition from the already widening field of eight companies will keep the price of AIbots down. Better ones on the top end of the range. There will be some maintenance. I expect there will be some annual subscription to keep up-to-date. Call it $25K.
    If they last ten years (my tractors last 40 years) then the cost of labor is going to become wonderfully trivial. I look forward to being able to do more projects.

  • @eugenestrawberry1835
    @eugenestrawberry1835 Před 18 dny +1

    It's mind-blowing on how many times you say mind-blowing.

  • @JimmieBrown-sg8fq
    @JimmieBrown-sg8fq Před 22 dny +25

    We will eventually invent ourselves out of existence.

    • @Myrslokstok
      @Myrslokstok Před 22 dny +2

      Think we actually allready have, it is just a question of time, even with the level we have right now!

    • @paulmcgraw9284
      @paulmcgraw9284 Před 22 dny +2

      Agreed

    • @robertbidochon7949
      @robertbidochon7949 Před 22 dny

      you're only good to work for a salary? your life sucks !

    • @dogsbodyish8403
      @dogsbodyish8403 Před 22 dny +2

      I hope the robots' designers are all familiar with Asimov's 3 laws of robotics...

    • @Myrslokstok
      @Myrslokstok Před 22 dny

      @@dogsbodyish8403
      They are, but you can't implement them, they are useless! There are no programming in that sense in an AI.
      But still it seams to take for granted what is what in a simplistic universe.
      Maybe they can redefine what a human is and it kills us all. Or it destroys the world because the world could harm us!

  • @user-zv8ph5du5t
    @user-zv8ph5du5t Před 21 dnem +15

    Wow. What effect will it have on society when most people have no work to do, even if they get paid for not working. People need something productive to keep them occupied or bad things can happen.

    • @tjj300
      @tjj300 Před 17 dny +2

      Ideally, arts and hobbies. Hand crafted will be special and valued. Travel. Work is something you do to live, but it's not why you live.

    • @capohd28
      @capohd28 Před 17 dny +2

      I am one with lots of hobbies and play several musical instruments. Looking forward to retirement soon, so I can spend my time in hobbies rather than stuck in an office.

    • @sparkysho-ze7nm
      @sparkysho-ze7nm Před 16 dny

      Artificial intelligence regulatory agency is hiring

    • @sindbad8411
      @sindbad8411 Před 16 dny

      @user-zv8ph5du5t
      UBI supporters claim this provides a great opportunity to do what people truly like and what's really needed but isn't profitable in a capitalistic society. From care homes for the elder to repair shops and many other services and social interactions. Most of these cannot be scaled and are therefore are not profitable currently or become crazily expensive like care homes.

    • @wowokingxoxo
      @wowokingxoxo Před 15 dny

      Learn how to Cook better , grow your own food, more time for s*x , it's all good.

  • @egregory348
    @egregory348 Před 17 dny +2

    It won’t make sense for low volume, high customization. Many new types of jobs will be created to service the new machinery. Many new service companies and cottage industries will form.

  • @CatsMeowPaw
    @CatsMeowPaw Před 18 dny +3

    This is fantastic news. I hope it happens as fast as possible. Why? Come on, how many people enjoy working 8 hours a day, getting up at 7am on a cold Monday morning to commute an hour to work? Anyone? I thought so.
    But where will millions of unemployed people get money to live, I hear people ask. Easy and simple. Tax the machines. They have an owner, they don't own themselves. If a corporation tries spin like 'this machine here in Sydney Australia is really owned by someone in Monaco, so we pay no tax!', just change the tax laws. The machine is taxed where it works.

    • @bearclaw5115
      @bearclaw5115 Před 17 dny

      You're delusional if you think that somehow robots are going to give you an easy life. They are more likely to end it.

    • @garybulwinkle82
      @garybulwinkle82 Před 15 dny +1

      My dad had a saying he used to describe the legal system, "Whoever has the money, pays!"

  • @ferfromla
    @ferfromla Před 22 dny +21

    What this means is that we will need a new economic system. We will need to find a way of getting money into the hands of humans and perhaps their jobs will be to spend money. Today, more people work at home or while traveling, and the concept of work is changing. It also means that these changes will affect our values; perhaps not working might be acceptable someday. Work is such a big part of how we and others see us. Yet in a world where human labor becomes too costly and inefficient, we will still need a way to sustain people. I have no doubts that robots will replace human labor, but then the question becomes, what happens to all those people? Thus the idea of a guaranteed national income might in the future not only become acceptable, but also necessary. Sam, I very much appreciate you tackling this difficult problem. It is a testimony that you are doing your job as a journalist to keep your public thinking.

    • @greatcondor8678
      @greatcondor8678 Před 21 dnem +1

      Money is already becoming more and more useless

    • @rossr6616
      @rossr6616 Před 20 dny

      the earth cannot sustain endless consumption by humans who would be "paid to shop"

    • @glasperlinspiel
      @glasperlinspiel Před 20 dny

      That’s mostly what Amaranthine is about, and how to leverage AI to make that possible

    • @navsofour2892
      @navsofour2892 Před 19 dny

      UBI is already necessary in most of the world before the existence of robots but doesn't happen.

    • @mrcead
      @mrcead Před 19 dny +4

      It's so adorable you think they plan to keep an excess population around (no offense to you, it's just the math is clear if labour is a problem, so is housing and feeding that labour)

  • @rossdunn2317
    @rossdunn2317 Před 22 dny +6

    You can foresee that this disruption will also shatter our current political and economic models. If people are to be looked after, rather than be impoverished by this, enormous change will be required - possibly with some nasty conflict.

  • @KungFuChess
    @KungFuChess Před 17 dny

    Big fan of Tony Seba. He has definitely been right on track.

  • @dond668
    @dond668 Před 16 dny

    Question - If robots take away labor, who will buy the end product? Who’s getting paid? Who’s making money? People will run out of money.

  • @bsaxman2012
    @bsaxman2012 Před 22 dny +8

    Re "why Elon Musk is no longer interested in EVs", that probably explains why so many have chosen to resign rather than stay.

    • @Texaskeith7011
      @Texaskeith7011 Před 22 dny +1

      That to me was the most disturbing statement in the video - not good for customers, his employees or investors

    • @stevenliew2507
      @stevenliew2507 Před 21 dnem

      The next generation of EV will have PV Charging on their Windscreen, their body works and requiring less power to travel 1000km.
      That is why Elon Musk is now focusing on the next generation of Industry and Business - Robots and Food.

  • @markwalker8374
    @markwalker8374 Před 20 dny +5

    This will generate a big demand for metals, speciality alloys, new materials and plastics. Expect the mining industry to be on the cutting edge of new technological development to meet the demand but humans will still be needed to manage the environmental and social impacts.

  • @cricticalthinking
    @cricticalthinking Před 18 dny

    The thing about inventions and technology is the unintended or unseen consequences. It gets humans every time.

  • @Frank-os6gq
    @Frank-os6gq Před 18 dny

    Whats the video your referencing at the beginning?
    I thought you'd like it in the description but i cant find you, you have a thousand other vids linked

  • @robertcurrea2451
    @robertcurrea2451 Před 22 dny +36

    Excellent editorial and premium reporting, rivaling all the major networks combined because they only see and say what they are told… Good job Sam

    • @Berretotube
      @Berretotube Před 22 dny +1

      Well said sir

    • @platoscavealum902
      @platoscavealum902 Před 21 dnem

      What is the biggest insight that you gained from this video?

    • @robertcurrea2451
      @robertcurrea2451 Před 21 dnem

      @@platoscavealum902 That the future is coming at an unbelievable speed (and force). if we do not prepare in time, it will be a disaster for humanity. However, on the flip-side, with proper adaptation, civilization can advance to levels never seen before. Definitely interesting times to be living in!

    • @dzcav3
      @dzcav3 Před 21 dnem

      Tony Seba must have found a copy of Autofac, the 1955 sci-fi story by Philip K. Dick, and thought he discovered something new. There are numerous problems with Seba's forecast:
      Food: I can just see the Whole Foods, anti-GMO, organic food crowd rushing to buy precision-fermented and cellular-agriculture synthetic food. Florida just outlawed synthetic meat.
      Robots: Part of the pitch for EVs is that they are "so much simpler" than ICE vehicles. "There's nothing to break." So humanoid robots are simple? And will never break? I suppose they self-assemble and repair themselves too. Industry has been automating at a rapid pace for decades using . . . . . . wait for it . . . . . ROBOTS. This is nothing more than the next chapter.

    • @sparkysho-ze7nm
      @sparkysho-ze7nm Před 16 dny

      Robots replace mainstream misery magnifying media first

  • @jbortell
    @jbortell Před 21 dnem +6

    I just wonder where all the electricity is going to come from.
    For a power plant, construction time alone is 5 years or more. Or are we using batteries to smooth out the duck curve while also running existing power plants at peak levels all the time?

    • @autohmae
      @autohmae Před 21 dnem

      if you watch this channel regularly, you'll know the cost of batteries is going down fast

    • @lyfandeth
      @lyfandeth Před 21 dnem +1

      The Empire State Building was built in one year. Powerplants are neither larger nor more complex, especially if we standardize regulations and facilities and rebuild a more robust and dispersed grid at the same time.
      In WW2 some ships were built in a week instead of a year. Amazing what planning can accomplish.

    • @jbortell
      @jbortell Před 19 dny

      @@lyfandeth Agreed that people can organize to do great things. But I feel that was a "different era". I'm optimistic on the future, pessimistic on this timeframe.
      The Empire State Bldg was designed before, but built during the great depression when labor was extremely cheap. In a race for tallest building back then, that by itself was compelling enough to continue building, ultra cheap labor enabled the building owner to get it done faster than otherwise possible. (consider the lack of safety regulations at the time too).

      And during WW2, we were a much more united country. Today whether this gets done will depend on who’s in office and their position on oil. Power plant construction is already regulated for all the types of energy production...and further standardization would mean the gov't chooses a couple designs from each production type...to do this in time, this will have to be plant design that has already been developed by particular companies. We also have to do environmental studies before starting all these construction sites.
      I'm just more pessimistic that this can actually happen in a decade. Personally, I think small modular nuclear reactors, distributed as necessary around the country, is the way to go. But that also seems unlikely in the next decade with the unreasonable aversion to nuclear.

    • @WearthH
      @WearthH Před 16 dny +1

      Nuclear fission.

    • @2pdlpwr
      @2pdlpwr Před 14 dny +1

      Vehicle batteries, are going to level the grid load by sharing power, while plugged in. 10 kwh of energy from a parked vehicle, that wants to share, for a cash payment,, times 100,000 vehicles, makes ALL the difference

  • @markmaker2488
    @markmaker2488 Před 18 dny

    Given the current global power production capacity, it's evident that meeting the demands of every vehicle transitioning to electric presents a challenge. Considering this, supporting an additional 7 billion robots, each consuming 1-2 kW per day, seems unfeasible.

  • @AKARazorback
    @AKARazorback Před 3 dny +1

    Should've put a link to the original video somewhere

  • @johnbierman4200
    @johnbierman4200 Před 21 dnem +5

    When a robot can change the sheets on a king size bed I will begin to believe.

    • @bearclaw5115
      @bearclaw5115 Před 17 dny

      When a robot can join me in the bed I will begin to believe.

  • @andrewsaint6581
    @andrewsaint6581 Před 22 dny +3

    Great programme.
    Well done Sam you're absolutely right from start to finish.