BMW 1 Series M Coupe vs BMW M3
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2011
- To the M badge faithful, the BMW 1 Series M Coupe signals a return to form. But is it? Benchmarking the 1M against an M3 would seem the perfect way to find out.
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"...a twin clutch dct transmission..."
So you mean "a twin clutch dual clutch transmission transmission.."
Cool.
This isn't a head 2 head.
“ The 1M does not feel special” Lol this did not age well
watching todays motortrend videos....you guys have come a very long way from your older vidoes
Wow.. MotorTrend has come such a long way since 2011... LUL
it's like I'm watching the sesame street version of Top Gear. don't ever watch motor trend before 2014...
CUTE! The 1 series M coupe is the most muscular beefy looking M car ever. It's like a true modern day equivalent to the E30 M3. It has the same kind of look and proportions and they're so rare. The 1 series M coupe is my choice hands down.
meh! it does look weird not so M"ish" especially from the front. M3 looks sexy and ferocious 1m looks cute from the back and ugly from the front.they are right!
The curved lines under the door and the roof-line don't do it for me.
a car should not look cute
proportion or whatever it basically have hop up 3 series engine n54 which make power around 1500-5000 and loses power from there so reving to redline is pointless isnt that what the e30 about lenient power delevery and if torque is what you want why dont go buy a 135i and tuned it or amg merc and the sound is crap compare to all the m3s but im sorry the m3 is more of an m car even thou its biger unique engine high reeving lenient power delivery balance
Patthon Sirilim Linear*
Everyone rips on the 1M for somehow looking ugly........but really? Ugly? Everything seems handsome about that car.
Looks like BMW crashed into a Chrysler and the BM only won by 20%...UGLY for a German car and terrible compared to that M3.
@@Mrbfgray ur crazy
@@user-ex4nh7qi8u Aesthetics must be kept in perspective, form follows function, performance is 'everything', but I'll take my E92 M3 any day as a driveway ornament.
@@Mrbfgray it’s a beautiful car, looks better than the m3
@@Mrbfgray lmao u explained it so good
The 1m must have aged like fine wine because I think it looks great
Oh thank god MT has gotten much better these days. This video feels so cheesy.
God ... soo much difference between Nowadays motor trend and back then .
yeah this seems kind of cheesey. the new videos are a lot more professional.
CJSchecter96 once Jonny is in it..it's going to be cheezy
Much rather drive a fully loaded M1 over the M3 just to stand out be different. Plus the car is just Badass
wtf did i watch
that‘s exactly what i am thinking
cmon u cant start with a god mode cheats on you..u always start off babystep
Terrible acting, and who wrote the script? A high school drama kid?
Andrew C
amen..this sukd
Andrew C I don't think you're allowed to bully high school kids, not even the drama kids.
***** my bad.
Sorry high school drama kids.
Ameen
+Andrew C Check out David Mamet over here.
Motor Trend: The Jonah Hill edition.
you forgot to mention Ryan Reynolds as well :D
i love my 1M way more than my previous M3 E46
same.
What a great episode!! Its awesome seeing Johnny and Carlos together. Motor Trend please make another episode like this! I'd love to see these two do another comparison. As always thank you for the great content.
this thing is astonishingly painful to watch compared to EVO, Car Magazine, or Autocar.
A little weird episode lol but still good and informative . Both are good cars!
OMG, eight years since I watched this vídeo for the first time. Time is just flying. I'm amazed how good were those times, but I realize that NOW is the time of our lives. Chears!
this is the most interesting style review I've ever seen before it was very entertaining xD
May be the 1M is not so special, but I bet it is a future classic with this massive rear fenders, limited production numbers and also its pureness... the M3 (E92) is a bit more on a posh side...
Benzinio you nailed it buddy
I made my choice with the M3. The 1M just didn't do it for me. Too ugly, but a hell of a drive.
tricker3938 good thing I can afford the depreciation LOL
these cars aren't even comparable...no man with self-respect should be buying a 1 series
kuruptzZz No man with self-respect should be buying a modern BMW anyway.
No rest for the wicked uhh...care to explain why? even though they are softer and I guess a bit less fun to drive than in the past, they are better in all other ways than older BMW's...best transmission in the world, more power, better MPG, nicer interiors with more space, better tech, much improved idrive...and you get 4 years of free servicing
kuruptzZz Best transmission in the world? BMW acquired Porsche PDK?
3M's are everywhere. 1M is special, a classic to be for sure. The low production numbers make it worth keeping.
It is easy to find 1/4 mile and 0-60 videos, but that was fun to watch and made the cars/drivers more real.
"37 lb ft more torque than you"...then "370 lb ft of torque, thats almost 100 more than you"....wut?
THe 1M coupe has 332 Ib ft of torque. When you hit overboost, it adds another 35ish. So it's near 370.
He explained the overboost feature earlier. Sheesh
1M any day, in fact I've just bought one in Valencia Orange, & would not swap for that M3.
Wow I'm coming from future and next to the new bmws, these two vehicles are real two legends...
Motor Trend has come a long way in 4 years!
I've owned a M3, and my household has a 1M. You know what they're both great cars. Loved the V8 on the M3, but you know what I don't love? Its the DCT gearbox, its not that great for day to day driving. The 1M is a great car, it handles great, and its alot of fun. But in 2015? That car is a little outdated, the M235i surprisingly is a better day to day car by far, and its just as fast.
lrgonly I drive the M135i everyday, lovely car ;D
lrgonly Except his dads old mustang cost pretty much fuck all when it was new even, a m135 new was expensive as hell
+den525 thats because the 235 is meant to be a day-to-day car, & the 1M a high-performance M car. they're only similar on paper- drive them back to back & you'll never want to drive a 235 again, i promise!
+lrgonly It was expensive at the time, totally agreed there, but comparing it to other cars at the time, it really wasn't
***** I have both. And I use the M235i as the daily. 1M is great fun but not a good daily.
The E92 ///M3 is for me the best those two cars. It looks fantastic, it sounds and revs like a beast... The 1 ///M is pretty awesome too, with that TwinTurbo inline six and this manual gearbox, but the ///M3 is just better ;)
Why do you have to put the "///" every time you say M wat like it's called the "M3"
Cause i find those 3 colors awesome.
When i put the slashes i just see the logo in my mind. This logo is just incredibly gorgeous.
(I know i already have it as my profile pic but i have to put the slashes )
well, here we meet again...
J0lker Which one do you prefer ?
Kaisuke971 Well i'm really confused. I think in the end I'd go with the e92 ///M3 ("///" specially for you :D) because of the looks. I hate BMW interior tho. the 1M seems to be pretty fun little car but that sedan-like shape is not for me.
I'd go for C63 coupe fitted with iPE exhaust ; )
i thought it was a great review keep up the good work
this channel soo much changed in 3 years
They decided to move this competition to the even numbers level.M2 vs M4 :p
I think the m1 looks better
+1. It looks amazing.
for sure it does, those that do not agree haven't seen it up close, looks much much better in person. almost like a toy car
Is this that famous MotorTrend with all those bells and whistles?
It is like watching a movie that a couple of high school students made or maybe an 80's adult movie with storyline : )
THE sound of the Natrually Aspirated Legends
as an enthusiast, 3 minutes of this made my ears bleed
All I have to say is that Motor Trends production quality has gone way up since this scripted crap was made.
Great video
this was a fun video. two cool people discussing bmw's, kinda awesome video
1m is better
100% is better! he said it doesnt feel special??? wow these clowns dont know nothing about cars , they should stick to shitty acting...
noa! M3 bruh
you obviously haven't drove a 1m, no offence but once you drive both, than answer
M3 is a spin off 1M. 1M is special. Learn some history before you quack.
The m3 is so goddamn beautifull!!
having said that though...did the E46 M3 CSL actually ever arrive and go on sale in the usa? ;-)
great video
None of these compares to the E30 or the E46
an automatic m3..what a waste of car
it's automatic? I know it has paddle shifters but that doesn't always mean it's tiptronic, if it is that would be a shame.
lol
makaveli2193 I just watched the video a little more and he mentioned that he has two clutches. This means he has the DCT, which is worlds faster than any manual (but is admittedly not as fun to drive.)
Ali Kayani Man what a shame. :( Its like an automatic 997.
***** Agreed. I actually bought a DCT M3 about two weeks after commenting here.
Love Motor Trend, Love the choice of cars, just a shame you didn't drag race/track race them...
This was FUN! been waiting for a I series M(or 1M) vs. M3 comparison, and yes, i was secretly wishing the M3 would win?.I can watch this over and over!
God they try WAY TO HARD!!!
TheBlazefrost too*
There are 2 things why I would want to buy the e92 M3 over the 1M.......The looks are much better & the engine is a lot better 4.0 na V8...M3 for me :)
i agree with you 100% however the 1M has more potential for power then the M3
I still prefer the M3 bc I'm a big dude and the 1M is super small that and 4.0 V8 is bae
They've come such a long way since then.....
was that Salmon Falls north of Folsom lake Northern California?
The m3 is so beautifull
m3 any day
1:01 This isn't the most powerful straight six M-car.
Have you forgotten the E46 M3 CSL?
That has 360hp without turbos and is THE best M-car ever made according to many people.
They are both great cars, pity the 1M is only a limited edition. I am changing my last of the E46 M3's for an E92 but would be tempted with the 1M if i could find one
What bmw 1m coupe sharing chasis with e92 or what?
I take the m3 over 1 series crap
1 series looks like shit. Like a kids size 6 shoe with wheels.
yes! im still in love with that look
The camera in Jonny's car made it look like he was driving an suv lol
Dude cant grow facial hair so he picks on the fat guy. I guess I would have some issues too if I looked like a ten year old in my late 40's.
1m is hideous. M3 is classic.
Great comparison. I'd definitely lean towards the m3 first just because I'm a bit biased but they are both great cars. Maybe one day I can do a review of my own.
the line delivery of "high johnny, nice m3" and "thats it, its on"
which one handles better? and is more agile?
im actually trying to decide what to get a 06 z06, 04 svt cobra, 03-12m3, 12 1m, 10-12 shelby
Onto my second e92 m3 now. First one being a manual and this one being a DCT, it's a truly brilliant car. Completely faultless (assuming you can afford to run it) :)
omg I can't believe motor trend used to be like this 😂
Nice, I did'nt know that CSLs where sold in the americam market. I know, it's like I said each one prefer the car that fill the personality. Good luck on this nice search.
@nvarun300 have u ever been in a m1 with twin turbo, huh?
2 OF MY FAVORITES
Holly crap MT video production quality has a come a long way. Johnny and Carlos are light years more entertaining and presentable today to say the very least
the first 5 minutes and 30 seconds is the ultimate form of bench racing i've ever seen.
Wow...the yr my beloved M3 was born 10 yrs later.
Why does Motor Trend say the curb weight of the BMW M3 coupe is 3500lbs, when EVERYBODY else (including BMW), says it's 3700lbs?
i'm not talking about abs and tc, those are obviously needet. I'm talking about things like the big bord computer with idrive, satellite navigation, cruise control, heated seats and all this stuff that adds weight which you don't want in a sports car.
I am English and although the coop thing maybe slightly irritating, Aluminium was actually first discovered by an American who named it Aluminum. We just call it Aluminium to follow convention.
I haven't driven either however, from what you guys say In this review - the 1M could be used as a daily in a city with tight roads low down torgue , where as the E92 M3 is more your suburbia/ country daily or weekend driver . For me it's the M3 all day every day
I really appreciate 04:13 that comment E30 M3 the legendary miracle Car on this planet !! because The Team that built it used the direct support/ suggestions / experience from racers and rally drivers , so dimensions , diagrams , wheel base are unique professionally perfect .
i drove a 135i for a little over 3 years, 110k kms, swopped it for a 1M, arrived this summer 10k kms so far in it. few trackdays. its 5 seconds a lap quicker vs the 135i i had (with performance options). I also drove an m3 for a few hundred kms. its an absolute dream of a car. but in the real world, in average conditions - you can barely ever extract over 80% of the M3. you need too high revs to really make it go or sing. with the 1M being a twin turbo, the power is just always there. same fast.
offered in the states?
I miss this old motor trend stuff now it's all reviews where is the old school fun
@hacklebarry yeah I'm wrong, i wasn't thinking of the newer models
1M is prettier IMO, and light, small cars is where its at! that being said, I can't afford either
The reason being that the M1 was a sports car legend from the late 70s while 3M produces Post-It notes and Scotch tape.
Both are utterly fabulous cars, the 1M more demanding and the M3 more rewarding the harder you work it. I think the 1M is utterly special!
I'm sure the 1M is a helluva car but that's not the main reason they're so valuable today. That's due to exclusivity. According to the BMW M Registry only 983 N. American spec E82 1Ms were produced. By contrast 15,799 N. American spec E92 M3s were produced.
In the UK the S5 is an absolute bargain right now. They start at £14K, but you are right in terms of it looks to similar to a standard A5
Omg I want a 1...not the M...just a normal one, make a few enhancements (exhaust, intake, ...love the size and look
Christopher Robinson I have a 128i and I love it. However, if I were you I'd save up and get a low mileage 135i and get a jb4 tune and an LSD
M3 Front end in the 1 Series M is just beautiful
I dont know why
I bet these guys are kicking themselves now over this review , 6-7 yrs later everyone enthusiast knows which one they would have in their garage....and the current evaluations do not lie!
2 great bmw ///M that the world will be talking about for years
Not really. I get the feeling this thing was optimised by the marketing people rather than the engineers.
@MartBro93 Have we just watched the same video..?
I'm from Denmark, so chances are slim, but i would love to, if i ever get the chance. Heard good things about that road.
as i understand the power button in the m3 sharpens the throttle response and accelerator sensitivity, the M button basically does all the other things you have said well thats what ive read and seen on the reviews i.e fith gear with ex racing driver tiff needel ;-)
To all that are bashing this video...did any of you read anywhere that this was a review of either car?? Neither did I, so stop whining. To MVdesign, 1) Carlos is aiming at an American audience where the CSL wasn't offered, and 2) with 370 torques it is the most powerful. This was a versus video, and yes...it did suck at that.
Yep, 1m is the best looking car BMW has made imo, & is more special than an M3.
gotta love the extensive brochure reading session from 2:15.
The CSL was 360?? You're sure about that? I have an e46 and its 333hp. (Or is that at the wheels and not bhp...)