You’re absolutely right. Nobody chooses to be born into the world in the first place. Fuck anybody who says that you’re selfish for wanting to end your own misery
@@chicken2423 "Would you be willing to assist in a deeath?" I already have, and so have you. By letting the politicians go to war and kill others as one way. But don't worry, we are all going to die and go extinct. Time itself will do the job for me, including doing it to me. Nobody gets out of this life alive. (Copy and paste from my files): Consider the following: * There are 3 basic options for life itself, which reduce down to 2, which reduce down to only 1: a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity. b. We die trying to truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity. c. We die not trying to truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity. * 3 reduced down to 2: a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity. b. We don't. And note, two out of the three options above, we die. * 2 reduced down to 1: a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity. b. We truly don't have any conscious existence throughout all of future eternity. (And note, these two appear to be mutually exclusive. Only one way would be really true.) And then ask yourself the following questions: 1. Ask yourself: How exactly do galaxies form? The current narrative is that matter, via gravity, attracts other matter. The electric universe model also includes universal plasma currents. 2. Ask yourself: How exactly do galaxies become spiral shaped in a cause and effect state of existence? At least one way would be orbital velocity of matter with at least gravity acting upon that matter, would cause a spiral shaped effect. The electric universe model also includes energy input into the galaxy, which spiral towards the galactic center, which then gets thrust out from the center, at about 90 degrees from the input. 3. Ask yourself: What does that mean for a solar system that exists in a spiral shaped galaxy? Most probably that solar system would be getting pulled toward the galactic gravitational center. 4. Ask yourself: What does that mean for species that exist on a planet, that exists in a solar system, that exists in a spiral shaped galaxy, in an apparent cause and effect state of existence? Most probably that if those species don't get off of that planet, and out of that solar system, and probably out of that galaxy too, (if it's even actually possible to do for various reasons), then they are all going to die one day from something and go extinct with probably no conscious entities left from that planet to care that they even ever existed at all in the first place, much less whatever they did and or didn't do with their time of existence. 5. Ask yourself: For those who might make it out of this galaxy, (here again, assuming it could actually be done for various reasons), where to go to next, how long to get there, how to safely land, and then, what's next? Hopefully they didn't land in another spiral shaped galaxy or a galaxy that would become spiral shaped one day, otherwise, they would have to galaxy hop through the universe to stay alive, otherwise, they still die one day from something with no conscious entities being left from the original planet to care they even ever existed at all in the first place, much less that they made it out of their own galaxy. They failed to consciously survive throughout all of future eternity. 6. Ask yourself: What exactly matters throughout all of future eternity and to whom does it exactly and eternally matter to? Either at least one species truly consciously survives throughout all of future eternity somehow, someway, somewhere, in some state of existence, even if only by a continuous succession of ever evolving species, for life itself to have continued meaning and purpose to, OR none do and life itself is all ultimately meaningless in the grandest scheme of things. Our true destiny currently appears to be: 1. We are ALL going to die one day from something. 2. We are ALL going to forget everything we ever knew and experienced. 3. We are ALL going to be forgotten one day in future eternity as if we never ever existed at all in the first place. Currently: Nature is our greatest ally in so far as Nature gives us life and a place to live it, AND Nature is also our greatest enemy that is going to take it all away. (OSICA) * (Note: This includes the rich, powerful, and those who believe in the right to life and the sanctity of human life. God does not actually exist and Nature is not biased other than as Nature. Nature does what Nature does in a cause and effect kind of way. Truth is still truth and reality is still reality, regardless of whatever we believe that reality to be. And denying future reality will not make future reality any less real in a cause and effect state of existence.) ** Hence also though, legalizing suicide (or at least make suicide not illegal) so as to let people leave this life on their own terms if they wish to do so. Many people and species are going to die in the 6th mass extinction event that has already started, at least some, horrible deaths. Many will wish they could die, and all will, eventually. And the 6th mass extinction event will not be the last mass extinction event for this Earth. But if suicide were legal (or at least not illegal), at least some people would not have the added guilt of breaking societies' law before doing so. Just trying to plan ahead here. Giving people an 'out' if they wish to take it.
@@chicken2423 And here is an updated version of the original comment above: (Copy and paste from my files): Consider the following: Here in America: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. If an American citizen does not have the legal 'Liberty' to end their own 'Life' if they and they alone believe it would make them 'Happy' to do so, then are they truly 'Free'? If an American citizen does not have the legal 'Liberty' to end their own 'Life' if they and they alone believe it would make them 'Happy' to do so, then they are nothing more than a slave to the larger society. Humanity puts animals to sleep who are suffering and call it 'humane' and yet keep humans alive no matter how much the human might be suffering and who wants to die. If a person wanted to die, and was allowed to legally die, then that would also allow more resources to be left for those people who wanted to continue to live. Dying can be a charitable act to those who want to continue to live. Legalize suicide or at least make suicide not illegal. There are at least 6 US States that have legal suicide in some form, but why not all?
@@charlesbrightman4237 so is that the over complicated way of saying you would be willing to help me with a death by merely pulling a trigger, if i paid you? If so... we could talk more privately on email, and arrange a meet. I assume you live in the US as well. You'd recieve at minimum 1k. Being a benefit towards myself and you...
@@chicken2423 Don't you get it? We all die, even you, even me. Everybody dies. Just give it time. Why are you so impatient? What good is money when we are all dead?
My wife is a home health aid. She's witnessed clients with dementia screaming and crying for hours and begging to be killed. We offer our pets the right to opt out of constant misery, and it's absolutely immoral to not allow our fellow human beings the same right.
I think if one can chose to have an abortion then on should also be allowed to die on their terms. Why make ppl suffer when we are more humane to animals.
@@chazlaine4072 they are talking about how they were given the choice to, not the actual abortion. In this modern day and age we should have the freedom of choice regardless of your or someone else’s morals
@@shockwave6213. There are people who illegally immigrate, make fake identification cards, commit identity fraud & pretend to be government officials so it's not hard to think someone could fake a few medical documents, it could also say on the document that "the subject doesn't want to hear about dying," & they think they're going in for routine vaccination.
@Jackie Tearie. To whom? So a world where some people (like yourself) like to live in is where most babies are murdered & the ones who are born have the doctor murder them instead. It's really easy to justify taking a life so long as you're not the one doing it.
It is not my responsibility to live for someone else or for 'society'. If I have a terminal condition ( less than 6 months) and have repeatedly asked to have the wherewithal to end my suffering ,and a physician chooses to provide the prescription, stand out of the way, and me choose when and where and in who's company I leave this earth. Its not about what others perceive as pain or suffering. Its my definition that matters.
I appreciate your concern for my welfare, but your religious belief must not constrain me or my choices. Those who choose to offer the gift of care, can do so in a variety of ways. I work in long term care and we need people just like you describe, badly as do hospitals, hospices and all sorts of care facilities and private residences. I honor caregivers, but it is important that the care be truly wanted. When the day comes when I don't want to be cared for, I'd prefer to take the physician prescribed barbiturates so that I, my family and my caregivers can move on...
Theresa Gioia stop it God isn't real and the sooner you learn that you'll see the true purpose of life and that is there is no purpose or meaning in life
@Mulalo I think that it is absolutely OK for people to assist die even if the patient isn’t necessarily going to die from the disease but is miserable living the way that it is whether you can get medical help but I don’t think that always helps and cancer is very painful and to those who say empathizing with people makes morality subjective I guess they’re suffering doesn’t mean anything either and to those who say assisted suicide is wrong for religious reasons and that you need God to have a objective morality then You can make any opinion sound like a fact by saying that God agrees with you on your opinions and God is omniscient therefore your opinions are correct
People allow animals to be put down but they don't allow people to have assisted suicide when people suffering with anything should have the right to chose this for themselves
Doesn't anyone care that medical professionals and governments (in my case, the US feds) are anxious to maintain a determined grasp on our personal life decisions? Shouldn't each person own their own life and the personal decisions that inform it? Stand up and demand freedom from this kind of political, religious, and professional posturing.
I thought all humans have a “right to live”. If it’s a right we should be allowed to revoke that right. Just like we have the right to remain silent when arrested. And if we don’t want to remain silent we are allowed to speak. No one FORCES you to remain silent.
Look at the right to life people to tell you how to live! They love you before your born and before you die but could give a rats ass about you when you need help during your life! That fetus that was born in the gehtto is abandoned by these people when he's 20 years old and poor and when he or she is healthy and old, with ful fledged dementia. As soon as that person gets sick and wants to die here comes the right to life calvary!
The answer is no in my opinion and you have to be kidding yourself that we live in a society of equals if someone else has some say-so of who lives or who dies. Giving doctors the ability to say who can live and who can die is wrong. You can always refuse treatment to prolong your life and opt for pain killers so you pass peacefully. We have the medicine just $ is in the way.
There are some people whose lives are completely miserable. Therapy and medication will only make it slightly more tolerable but it doesn't fix anything. There should be some mandatory therapy period but if that doesn't help, assisted suicide should be approved. What is preferred, some bloody or horrific event like someone shooting or hanging himself or something planned, more effective and less painful experience?
Though this is my opinion, I strongly believe that physician assisted suicide should be legalized in all states. Physicians are bound by 4 main ethical principles: beneficence, respect for autonomy, non-maleficence, and justice. Each situation must be scrutinized from all ethical angles and a decision must be made about what is truly best for the patient. My first point is the idea of beneficence vs non-maleficence or doing what is in the best interest of the patient vs doing no harm. If a patient is terminally ill and physicians decide to prolong their life ultimately knowing that they will succumb to their illness, are they truly doing what is best for the patient? Sure, the patient can refuse treatment but often times they will wait weeks, if not months for the disease process to finally progress to end stage all the while being in unbearable amounts of pain and discomfort and losing their dignity along the way. If a patient has been evaluated and been declared capable of making decisions about their own health, then they should be able to make the decision about where, when, and how they would like their life to end if they are terminally ill. By not honoring the patient’s wishes, physicians are directly going against the autonomy of the patient which in some cases is just as bad as not adhering to the principle of non-maleficence.
Frankly, I don't see how this would anyone elses business. I've told my family that if something happens to me I don't want to linger and the same thing goes if I know i'm not going to recover. They let my grandmother linger and I wondered into her room while no one was paying attention. I will never forget that as long as I live. I didn't speak for a week and then she died anyway. No sir, Not me.
@@gregtanner3161 legal euthanasia should be legal. Not everyone can go back to society or heal. Those who say it's not difficult to keep living need a reality check
I'm very sorry for your loss and I think that is an extremely brave, responsible and caring reaction to your experience. I hope that when people hear you say these things that they can understand the true feelings of family members of terminally ill or suicidal people and realize that assisted suicide should be an option. It can be a powerful message to people when those who have family that committed suicide on their own don’t get traumatized and become anti-AS nuts but instead support it.
Consider also the 'golden rule' that many of us were taught by the larger society: Basically, treat others like one would like to be treated. a. If an individual makes the larger society suffer, the larger society normally makes the individual suffer. b. But now, if the larger society makes the individual suffer first, by prolonging the individuals life when the individual does not want to stay alive, especially for terminally ill people, then since the larger society did it to the individual first, that is obviously how the larger society wants to be treated. c. Anybody who wants to end their life, especially terminally ill people but not only terminally ill people, but society does not make it legal for the individual to end their own life, would then have the inherent 'right' per the 'golden rule' to make society suffer, or at least prolong societies' suffering, since the larger society did it to the individual first and that must be how the larger society wants to be treated. d. Hey, I didn't write the 'golden rule', but what is fair is fair. So, anybody who wants to end their own life and the larger society does not make it legal to do so, you would now have the right to make the larger society suffer, or at least prolong societies' suffering if the larger society is already suffering. The 'golden rule' is either the 'golden rule' or it's not.
Yes, I think assisted suicide is ok. The same goes for abortion and gay marriage. Period. I don't get how any reasonable person would disagree, or how these could be questions that are controversial at all!
The key word is 'reasonable'. The opposition to assisted suicide, abortion and gay marriage stems almost entirely from religions...which are unreasonable by design. ie. faith in claims against reason.
Yea, murder, rape and theft should be ok too. I don't see how any reasonable person could disagree or how these questions could be controversial at all. ......It's all legal in California and Hell.
It’s funny how people that are pro death penalty But against assisted suicide Because how can you before someone dying as a form of punishment at all if you’re completely against someone dying to end their suffering
I'm struggling to come to terms with my illness and what could lead to a life of endless pain and total inablitly to do anything for myself ..even going to the bathroom. Right now I'm OK but i won't always be, getting over whether its right or wrong for myself then that time comes is really hard. The only thing I can say for 100% sure is anyone having an opinion on this issue one way or the other, no matter what its based on, its a very different view having to live with this dession than talking about it.
Sir Jacob yes but i am dealing with it better, even tho it has gotten worse. i'm trying to focus on the good times i can still have rather than cry about what i cant control..well i can cry about it later anyway
@@jessmedina4217 I've had much better meds and learning to improve my living conditions. I'm hopping to get an operation that might help me in the next few months. I'm trying to get my depesion to a manageable level it's been hard but trying to focus on the good
People need to stop keep the misrable that want to die in this way alive. A person could be a husk of pain, barley even keeping a conscious, and hooked up on enethstaya all day. Ive seen people nit be able to go to the restroom, wipe, do basic things, and its disturbing. If theyre happy thats good, but if they dont want it, let them go.
Most of abused victims face more than recovery but also the fight with the abusers that never leave them alone and so assisted suicide is what I seemed for years but abusing medical staff never accept it
+Bubbles 007 The video mentions that many of the people aren’t experiencing pain, but they are experiencing misery. If an individual knows that their life will come to an end in some way due to their illness, why should they not have the right to choose? Choosing the option of assisted death could eliminate the pain and suffering someone may experience according to the illness they have. Many of the individuals who choose assisted suicide are competent, meaning they should have the right to choose what to do with their own life. Physician assisted suicide gives individuals another option when they must face the reality of a terminal illness. Obviously, physician assisted death is not the appropriate option for everyone; however, in most cases, especially for terminal illnesses, I believe it is acceptable. As long as the patient is well informed on the decision he or she is making, a person should have the right to choose whether they are going to die with assistance or die from their diagnosed illness. Putting yourself into that situation, wouldn’t you want to have the ability to choose?
It's not up to you. If you don't agree with suicide then turn the other cheek. People don't want to suffer. 9 times outta 10 people disagree because they live liveable lives. Some people don't. Realize.
I actually support right to die over abortion. (even though I don't support right to die 99% of the time) (just terminally ill etc.) I met a hardcore liberal once, and she was exhibiting extremely dominating and irrational behavior, a type of psychosis, where she almost felt as if my body was her body and she could do with me as she willed. If she wanted me amputated, or killed, it was her choice and she was free to do so.
Well you never know we are never out of the universe and always a part of it , we just change our forms, but still no force is illuminated @@gregtanner3161
@@harrisonosirrah thanks 🙏🏾 it was only a season, I've pulled through that one. I am happier than ever today. Tests and trials happen but the strong pull through 👐🏾
Our lives belong to us not to anyone else and no-one has a right to tell people what to do with their own lives so if someone wants to die no-one has a right to stop them.
Physician-assisted suicide is a polarizing topic, but one that I generally support. It is a troubling thing thinking about a trained medical professional being asked to actively end someone’s life. It seems rather hypocritical, as though it goes directly against an oath that the physician took to do no harm. In my mind it definitely does not. Helping an individual to not suffer is doing good, or reflecting beneficence. Now, there should definitely be limits and restrictions put on who can receive physician-assisted suicide, but it should be available everywhere. In order for an individual to be eligible for physician-assisted suicide, I think he or she should be diagnosed with a condition that proves to be fatal in a high percentage of cases (maybe 90% of cases for example). That person should also have to get the same diagnosis from multiple doctors. I think the criteria for who is eligible must be strict and restricted to those facing a lethal disease, because actively ending life is still not the mission of a physician. In cases where death is inevitable, his or her autonomy should be respected if assisted suicide is desired. There are inevitably going to be family members and friends who are saddened and frustrated with a family member’s decision to end their life. I also believe someone who is fully informed of alternatives, legally competent and autonomous can explain their rational that ending their life will actually cause them less pain than living each day. Watching a family member deteriorate over a long timeline may actually be worse for a family than seeing them in a familiar state and watching them pass on their own terms. It would be comforting knowing at the time of a family member’s passing that he or she as in control instead of the disease.
We should be able to walk inside a hospital even if you are not sick. And have this procedure done. Women movement say “ my right my body” and I agree!!
I think if this goes through, we should use it for those people that sue rescuers after an attempted suicide. If they wish to follow through with the lawsuit, they have to first sign a contract saying they agree to assisted suicide immediately after the case.
Nobody has the right to decide for somebody else if it ok to die as somebody else also doesn't have the right to decide if it ok to continue life. I'll do it too as soon I have to suffer a desease. I will do it neat and proper, not like my father who jumped in front of a train.
I think you're missing the point here. Assisted suicide means someone who is terminally ill and wants to die but have someone there to sit with them while they do it. I think of people are in great physical pain they have the right to die if they want to.
@@chazlaine4072 As you can read, I wrote " as soon I have to suffer a desease", so I think that I didn't miss the point here. Here in the Netherlands people can also get assisted suicide if they suffer mentally in life, like 2 years ago, Noa Pothoven, a 17 yrs old girl got assisted suicide. You can find her story online. Assisted suicide is not only sitting next to somebody but also providing the medicins that somebody has to take in ( by themself).
I was dead but came back to life. God's plan is the best and His timing is perfect. Pain, suffering and death is sometimes a rite of passage. People must go in their own time. Those who interfere with the Divine Order will share in the destiny of the person they think they are helping.
People need to stop telling other people to kill themselves! To some weird people it may seem fine to do it over computer. But just telling someone to kill themselves can really affect them!
The argument made here is that patients and their families make a choice to go through with physician assisted suicide and that choice should be respected. This supports the ethical principle of beneficence because this choice benefits everyone involved. They also state that patients go through with physician assisted suicide because they do not want to be a burden. Some would argue that this is not a sufficient reason to go through with physician assisted suicide and that the patient should receive mental health counseling instead. I understand that perspective, but I also want to honor patients’ autonomy. It should be their choice about end of life care.
Why are these people focusing on the issue of personal choice to die, which should obviously be a non-issue since nobody can stop them anyway, but not the disturbing fact that they're trying to recruite these " death volunteers". These people are trying to create a smoke screen and dodging the moral issues of asking another person to commit murder and tarnish their morality.
I am curious to know, out of all the doctors who have done this, even if they and their patients have valid opinions, how the doctors do afterwards. How many regret it? How many of them don't regret it? I know I couldn't do it. I don't agree with it and I just don't like the idea of doctors can kill people, in a sense. Is it murder? To me, not really, but I would not ever feel comfortable doing this. It just feels wrong to me. Anyone in this situation deserves my respect for enduring such an illness but man... Me no likey this. In the end, no one really wins.
it ends theyre suffering, or the suffering the illness will enventually take them like in the case of ALS, wich now one can cure, its also about dignity, go watch 2010: Kervokian admits helping dozens die :)
+Avonlea Montague The doctors do not kill. You are confusing assisted suicide with euthanasia. These laws specifically ban the doctor from even being present. They simply write a prescription for the barbiturates. What feels wrong to me, is people with a terminal diagnosis in misery and suffering, just waiting - waiting - and waiting, day after day pleading with loved ones and health care workers for help that no one can give them.
And did you ever get into medical school? I think not... To be a doctor requires a lot of hard, academic work and is one of the most academic and requires the highest grades in the world...
Who can be more wicked than one who inventeth a lie against Allah, or saith, "I have received inspiration," when he hath received none, or (again) who saith, "I can reveal the like of what Allah hath revealed"? If thou couldst but see how the wicked (do fare) in the flood of confusion at death! - the angels stretch forth their hands, (saying),"Yield up your souls: this day shall ye receive your reward,- a penalty of shame, for that ye used to tell lies against Allah, and scornfully to reject of His signs!" 6:94 "And behold! ye come to us bare and alone as We created you for the first time: ye have left behind you all (the favours) which We bestowed on you: We see not with you your intercessors whom ye thought to be partners in your affairs: so now all relations between you have been cut off, and your (pet) fancies have left you in the lurch!"
Mentally placing myself in the shoes of people dealing with conditions such as overwhelming depression or extreme almost insufferable disease, I understand the empathetic draw towards “providing such individuals with relief.” However, ethically, not just morally, I have concerns that sway me away from advocating for rights to physician assisted suicide. I have concerns that there will ultimately be patients who are coerced into the life-ending procedure for the gain of the person doing the coercing. I have concerns that there may be patients who, fearing the worst of a newly diagnosed “terminal” condition, choose to end their life before facing such hardship when undoubtedly such estimations are prone to be inaccurate from time to time. In addition, I worry that in ours and physicians’ efforts to be beneficent towards those in pain, we rob ourselves and them of an undeniable part of life - pain. From an agnostic point of view, how is “relieving” someone of their pain - which will end on its own - in exchange for a potential end of all consciousness, a trade founded on justice or beneficence? In my opinion, it is founded in neither. In my opinion, which I’m open to changing as I learn from others, the desire to relieve the pain of those we see suffering is founded in beneficence, but the action of ending their potential to give to and take from this world, and experience anything at all ever again, is not the approach that should be followed to fulfill that desire. Again, agnostically, we’re providing them with absolute end to all; not relief. I struggle to consider that beneficent or just.
People are not immortal, there will be an "end to everything" for everyone soon enough. Life should be enjoyable or what is the point? If suffering consumes the life, why go on? I think you make a reasoned post but I think it is just a reflection of societies inability to accept death. Do you think that is possible?
Люди, не будет никакого нового старта здесь, на земле. Вас ждёт 100% посмертная участь в вечности. Забирая у себя жизнь, вы не знаете, как это отразится в посмертии.
sucide is a option that should be availbe to everyone as long as the person who wants to die has checkd everythign out and made sure it what they want, my bro commited sucide , i would of preferd him doing it family with him then being alone on the cliffs
The fact that this subject has actually been legalized is sickening. I understand why but in all reality now that its legalized anyone who wants to go this route has no privacy. You dont get to choose the how, when and where that itll take place. Not saying that i dont agree with peoples reasoning but unless someone has a medical condition that in the end is going to be their fate this should not be an option for people. This is simply a way for the government to have more money and control human population. Just my opinion.
The privacy thing is totally false I know two people one being my grandma who went threw with doctor assisted suicide for her it was because she was in pain and it was untreatable because it was on vital organs and besides family and doctors nobody knew
It is Allah Who has sent down the Book in Truth, and the Balance (by which to weigh conduct). And what will make thee realise that perhaps the Hour is close at hand? 42:18 Only those wish to hasten it who believe not in it: those who believe hold it in awe, and know that it is the Truth. Behold, verily those that dispute concerning the Hour are far astray. 42:17-18
Only humans commit suicide. No other animal.The problem is we can kill the physical but not the spiritual part of ourself.We will have to face our fears one way or another. That is why we have to commit suicide before we die.Kill the ego.We were somewhere before we came here, so there is a good chance we will exist somewhere else after.It is what Jesus talked about, buddha,lau tzu mahavir,ramakrisna,Mahavir,, many other so called enlightened people
For many of us, we like ourselves and would like to go on but our bodies are broken. For some, their mental status. But I think people going this route, probably myself, we do lose our ego along the way. I am facing this and I am letting go of attachments little by little. I don't know about total ego death, but it's lessening little by little. Peace.
These people who commit suicide will go to HELL their not going on a journey their not going on a adventure they will go straight to HELL and there they will regret rejecting Jesus Christ
@Robert Plenty of people have read it. Doesn’t make it true. And you still don’t know for sure if it’s the truth, you just believe that it is. And even if it is true I doubt that assisted suicide would get you sent there.
You know there’s a Heaven and a Hell, stop lying to yourself. I bet it’s hard as you tell yourself over and over there’s no Hell don’t worry self when I die that’s just it. Ya you tell yourself that every time but the fact is yes there’s a Heaven and a Hell and a God who created them and you will see Hell first hand
We are forced to live in this cruel hell world and we suffer from mental/physical illnesses, its our own life and its our choice.
You’re absolutely right. Nobody chooses to be born into the world in the first place. Fuck anybody who says that you’re selfish for wanting to end your own misery
There is no reason to have endless unbearable misery and suffering just because someone else selfishly wants them to.
jamieseiple They should legalize it in Florida because I want to die because I had a tough life
@M W Listen to God That Failed by Metallica and read the meaning lol, God's always so good uh.
Would any of you you be willing to assist in a deeath? Your only job would be to pull the trig and you'd be paid...
@M W //'// Death is the ultimate healer.
@@chicken2423 there's a difference between assisting a patient committing suicide and actually committing murder.
Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness:
Don't I have the Liberty to end my Life in the pursuit of my own Happiness?
Would you be willing to assist in a deeath? Your only job would be to pull the trig and you'd be paid...
@@chicken2423 "Would you be willing to assist in a deeath?"
I already have, and so have you. By letting the politicians go to war and kill others as one way.
But don't worry, we are all going to die and go extinct. Time itself will do the job for me, including doing it to me. Nobody gets out of this life alive.
(Copy and paste from my files):
Consider the following:
* There are 3 basic options for life itself, which reduce down to 2, which reduce down to only 1:
a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
b. We die trying to truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
c. We die not trying to truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
* 3 reduced down to 2:
a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
b. We don't. And note, two out of the three options above, we die.
* 2 reduced down to 1:
a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
b. We truly don't have any conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
(And note, these two appear to be mutually exclusive. Only one way would be really true.)
And then ask yourself the following questions:
1. Ask yourself: How exactly do galaxies form? The current narrative is that matter, via gravity, attracts other matter. The electric universe model also includes universal plasma currents.
2. Ask yourself: How exactly do galaxies become spiral shaped in a cause and effect state of existence? At least one way would be orbital velocity of matter with at least gravity acting upon that matter, would cause a spiral shaped effect. The electric universe model also includes energy input into the galaxy, which spiral towards the galactic center, which then gets thrust out from the center, at about 90 degrees from the input.
3. Ask yourself: What does that mean for a solar system that exists in a spiral shaped galaxy? Most probably that solar system would be getting pulled toward the galactic gravitational center.
4. Ask yourself: What does that mean for species that exist on a planet, that exists in a solar system, that exists in a spiral shaped galaxy, in an apparent cause and effect state of existence? Most probably that if those species don't get off of that planet, and out of that solar system, and probably out of that galaxy too, (if it's even actually possible to do for various reasons), then they are all going to die one day from something and go extinct with probably no conscious entities left from that planet to care that they even ever existed at all in the first place, much less whatever they did and or didn't do with their time of existence.
5. Ask yourself: For those who might make it out of this galaxy, (here again, assuming it could actually be done for various reasons), where to go to next, how long to get there, how to safely land, and then, what's next? Hopefully they didn't land in another spiral shaped galaxy or a galaxy that would become spiral shaped one day, otherwise, they would have to galaxy hop through the universe to stay alive, otherwise, they still die one day from something with no conscious entities being left from the original planet to care they even ever existed at all in the first place, much less that they made it out of their own galaxy. They failed to consciously survive throughout all of future eternity.
6. Ask yourself: What exactly matters throughout all of future eternity and to whom does it exactly and eternally matter to?
Either at least one species truly consciously survives throughout all of future eternity somehow, someway, somewhere, in some state of existence, even if only by a continuous succession of ever evolving species, for life itself to have continued meaning and purpose to, OR none do and life itself is all ultimately meaningless in the grandest scheme of things.
Our true destiny currently appears to be:
1. We are ALL going to die one day from something.
2. We are ALL going to forget everything we ever knew and experienced.
3. We are ALL going to be forgotten one day in future eternity as if we never ever existed at all in the first place.
Currently:
Nature is our greatest ally in so far as Nature gives us life and a place to live it, AND Nature is also our greatest enemy that is going to take it all away. (OSICA)
* (Note: This includes the rich, powerful, and those who believe in the right to life and the sanctity of human life. God does not actually exist and Nature is not biased other than as Nature. Nature does what Nature does in a cause and effect kind of way. Truth is still truth and reality is still reality, regardless of whatever we believe that reality to be. And denying future reality will not make future reality any less real in a cause and effect state of existence.)
** Hence also though, legalizing suicide (or at least make suicide not illegal) so as to let people leave this life on their own terms if they wish to do so. Many people and species are going to die in the 6th mass extinction event that has already started, at least some, horrible deaths. Many will wish they could die, and all will, eventually. And the 6th mass extinction event will not be the last mass extinction event for this Earth. But if suicide were legal (or at least not illegal), at least some people would not have the added guilt of breaking societies' law before doing so. Just trying to plan ahead here. Giving people an 'out' if they wish to take it.
@@chicken2423 And here is an updated version of the original comment above:
(Copy and paste from my files):
Consider the following: Here in America: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
If an American citizen does not have the legal 'Liberty' to end their own 'Life' if they and they alone believe it would make them 'Happy' to do so, then are they truly 'Free'?
If an American citizen does not have the legal 'Liberty' to end their own 'Life' if they and they alone believe it would make them 'Happy' to do so, then they are nothing more than a slave to the larger society. Humanity puts animals to sleep who are suffering and call it 'humane' and yet keep humans alive no matter how much the human might be suffering and who wants to die.
If a person wanted to die, and was allowed to legally die, then that would also allow more resources to be left for those people who wanted to continue to live. Dying can be a charitable act to those who want to continue to live.
Legalize suicide or at least make suicide not illegal. There are at least 6 US States that have legal suicide in some form, but why not all?
@@charlesbrightman4237 so is that the over complicated way of saying you would be willing to help me with a death by merely pulling a trigger, if i paid you? If so... we could talk more privately on email, and arrange a meet. I assume you live in the US as well. You'd recieve at minimum 1k. Being a benefit towards myself and you...
@@chicken2423 Don't you get it? We all die, even you, even me. Everybody dies. Just give it time. Why are you so impatient? What good is money when we are all dead?
It should be legalised
Especially for people suffering from extreme physical pain that can’t be resolved.
My wife is a home health aid. She's witnessed clients with dementia screaming and crying for hours and begging to be killed. We offer our pets the right to opt out of constant misery, and it's absolutely immoral to not allow our fellow human beings the same right.
I COMEPLETELY agree! It should be legalized everywhere that you can get assisted suicide with physical and emotional pain!
I think if one can chose to have an abortion then on should also be allowed to die on their terms. Why make ppl suffer when we are more humane to animals.
Would you be willing to assist in a deeath? Your only job would be to pull the trig and you'd be paid...
There's a difference between killing yourself and killing an innocent child.
@@chazlaine4072 It'd be great if everyone had your point of view. I agree with you on this.
@@chazlaine4072 they are talking about how they were given the choice to, not the actual abortion. In this modern day and age we should have the freedom of choice regardless of your or someone else’s morals
Assisted Suicide should be legalized
Yes because you can't fake legal documents.
@@shockwave6213. There are people who illegally immigrate, make fake identification cards, commit identity fraud & pretend to be government officials so it's not hard to think someone could fake a few medical documents, it could also say on the document that "the subject doesn't want to hear about dying," & they think they're going in for routine vaccination.
@Jackie Tearie. To whom? So a world where some people (like yourself) like to live in is where most babies are murdered & the ones who are born have the doctor murder them instead. It's really easy to justify taking a life so long as you're not the one doing it.
I once had a bunch of companies write me off as deceased when I told an annoying as fuck spam caller that "------------" was dead. LOL
They should legalize it in Florida because I go through hard times and I want to end my life
WE plan every other important event in our lives, why not our death?
@Old School Tech I can already hear angry pro lifers screaming
It is not my responsibility to live for someone else or for 'society'. If I have a terminal condition ( less than 6 months) and have repeatedly asked to have the wherewithal to end my suffering ,and a physician chooses to provide the prescription, stand out of the way, and me choose when and where and in who's company I leave this earth. Its not about what others perceive as pain or suffering. Its my definition that matters.
you rite
I appreciate your concern for my welfare, but your religious belief must not constrain me or my choices. Those who choose to offer the gift of care, can do so in a variety of ways. I work in long term care and we need people just like you describe, badly as do hospitals, hospices and all sorts of care facilities and private residences. I honor caregivers, but it is important that the care be truly wanted. When the day comes when I don't want to be cared for, I'd prefer to take the physician prescribed barbiturates so that I, my family and my caregivers can move on...
Theresa Gioia stop it God isn't real and the sooner you learn that you'll see the true purpose of life and that is there is no purpose or meaning in life
@Theresa Castillo keep your preaching at a minimum. What has God done for you?
Would any of you you be willing to assist in a deeath? Your only job would be to pull the trig and you'd be paid...
People should control when they want to go and be able to die painlessly instead of life murdering them in countless ways.
Would any of you you be willing to assist in a deeath? Your only job would be to pull the trig and you'd be paid...
@@chicken2423 you're referring to committing murder not assisted suicide. You really need to stop asking people that question.
absolutely it is OK. Why should people be made to suffer while they die if they can escape the torment?
Would any of you you be willing to assist in a deeath? Your only job would be to pull the trig and you'd be paid...m
@Mulalo I think that it is absolutely OK for people to assist die even if the patient isn’t necessarily going to die from the disease but is miserable living the way that it is whether you can get medical help but I don’t think that always helps and cancer is very painful and to those who say empathizing with people makes morality subjective I guess they’re suffering doesn’t mean anything either and to those who say assisted suicide is wrong for religious reasons and that you need God to have a objective morality then You can make any opinion sound like a fact by saying that God agrees with you on your opinions and God is omniscient therefore your opinions are correct
Suicide isnt always bad
People allow animals to be put down but they don't allow people to have assisted suicide when people suffering with anything should have the right to chose this for themselves
Not to mention pet are family members
It’s okay, no questions asked
Doesn't anyone care that medical professionals and governments (in my case, the US feds) are anxious to maintain a determined grasp on our personal life decisions? Shouldn't each person own their own life and the personal decisions that inform it? Stand up and demand freedom from this kind of political, religious, and professional posturing.
I thought all humans have a “right to live”. If it’s a right we should be allowed to revoke that right. Just like we have the right to remain silent when arrested. And if we don’t want to remain silent we are allowed to speak. No one FORCES you to remain silent.
our lives, our choice. how is it any less simple than that? the answer is obvious.
That woman saying that hardly anyone ends their life because of pain. I think she is pushing an agenda and trying to distort things
Chronic pain is one of the biggest reasons for assisted suicide
When does the fear of becoming a burden become less of an issue and simply being a burden is justifications for 'assisted suicide'?
If someone has a permanent or terminal illness they should have a right to die if that's what they want.
@@chazlaine4072 anyone should have the right to one
Look at the right to life people to tell you how to live! They love you before your born and before you die but could give a rats ass about you when you need help during your life! That fetus that was born in the gehtto is abandoned by these people when he's 20 years old and poor and when he or she is healthy and old, with ful fledged dementia. As soon as that person gets sick and wants to die here comes the right to life calvary!
Where can I sign up mental illness is killing me
"Is assisted suicide ever okay?"
The answer is yes...
The answer is no in my opinion and you have to be kidding yourself that we live in a society of equals if someone else has some say-so of who lives or who dies. Giving doctors the ability to say who can live and who can die is wrong.
You can always refuse treatment to prolong your life and opt for pain killers so you pass peacefully. We have the medicine just $ is in the way.
There are some people whose lives are completely miserable. Therapy and medication will only make it slightly more tolerable but it doesn't fix anything. There should be some mandatory therapy period but if that doesn't help, assisted suicide should be approved. What is preferred, some bloody or horrific event like someone shooting or hanging himself or something planned, more effective and less painful experience?
Though this is my opinion, I strongly believe that physician assisted suicide should be legalized in all states. Physicians are bound by 4 main ethical principles: beneficence, respect for autonomy, non-maleficence, and justice. Each situation must be scrutinized from all ethical angles and a decision must be made about what is truly best for the patient. My first point is the idea of beneficence vs non-maleficence or doing what is in the best interest of the patient vs doing no harm. If a patient is terminally ill and physicians decide to prolong their life ultimately knowing that they will succumb to their illness, are they truly doing what is best for the patient? Sure, the patient can refuse treatment but often times they will wait weeks, if not months for the disease process to finally progress to end stage all the while being in unbearable amounts of pain and discomfort and losing their dignity along the way. If a patient has been evaluated and been declared capable of making decisions about their own health, then they should be able to make the decision about where, when, and how they would like their life to end if they are terminally ill. By not honoring the patient’s wishes, physicians are directly going against the autonomy of the patient which in some cases is just as bad as not adhering to the principle of non-maleficence.
Frankly, I don't see how this would anyone elses business. I've told my family that if something happens to me I don't want to linger and the same thing goes if I know i'm not going to recover. They let my grandmother linger and I wondered into her room while no one was paying attention. I will never forget that as long as I live. I didn't speak for a week and then she died anyway. No sir, Not me.
My grandson, age 19, committed suicide by taking a lit charcoal fire into his pickup truck. Helium inhalation is another common method.
Why would you share this, what is your point?
@@gregtanner3161 legal euthanasia should be legal. Not everyone can go back to society or heal. Those who say it's not difficult to keep living need a reality check
I'm very sorry for your loss and I think that is an extremely brave, responsible and caring reaction to your experience. I hope that when people hear you say these things that they can understand the true feelings of family members of terminally ill or suicidal people and realize that assisted suicide should be an option. It can be a powerful message to people when those who have family that committed suicide on their own don’t get traumatized and become anti-AS nuts but instead support it.
Consider also the 'golden rule' that many of us were taught by the larger society: Basically, treat others like one would like to be treated.
a. If an individual makes the larger society suffer, the larger society normally makes the individual suffer.
b. But now, if the larger society makes the individual suffer first, by prolonging the individuals life when the individual does not want to stay alive, especially for terminally ill people, then since the larger society did it to the individual first, that is obviously how the larger society wants to be treated.
c. Anybody who wants to end their life, especially terminally ill people but not only terminally ill people, but society does not make it legal for the individual to end their own life, would then have the inherent 'right' per the 'golden rule' to make society suffer, or at least prolong societies' suffering, since the larger society did it to the individual first and that must be how the larger society wants to be treated.
d. Hey, I didn't write the 'golden rule', but what is fair is fair. So, anybody who wants to end their own life and the larger society does not make it legal to do so, you would now have the right to make the larger society suffer, or at least prolong societies' suffering if the larger society is already suffering. The 'golden rule' is either the 'golden rule' or it's not.
Yes, I think assisted suicide is ok. The same goes for abortion and gay marriage. Period.
I don't get how any reasonable person would disagree, or how these could be questions that are controversial at all!
Ingen Ting do you know of any legal substances that can painlessly end suffering, I don't really care about price
The key word is 'reasonable'. The opposition to assisted suicide, abortion and gay marriage stems almost entirely from religions...which are unreasonable by design. ie. faith in claims against reason.
Where do you get abortion and gay marriage from assisted suicide? Completely different topics!
Yea, murder, rape and theft should be ok too. I don't see how any reasonable person could disagree or how these questions could be controversial at all. ......It's all legal in California and Hell.
I like some of these posts by people who are young, healthy, happy and unfortunatly religious. They are so CLUELESS.
"unfortunately religious" - That's never good.
It’s funny how people that are pro death penalty But against assisted suicide Because how can you before someone dying as a form of punishment at all if you’re completely against someone dying to end their suffering
They're pro suffering
I'm struggling to come to terms with my illness and what could lead to a life of endless pain and total inablitly to do anything for myself ..even going to the bathroom. Right now I'm OK but i won't always be, getting over whether its right or wrong for myself then that time comes is really hard. The only thing I can say for 100% sure is anyone having an opinion on this issue one way or the other, no matter what its based on, its a very different view having to live with this dession than talking about it.
a year later are you in pain?
Sir Jacob
yes but i am dealing with it better, even tho it has gotten worse. i'm trying to focus on the good times i can still have rather than cry about what i cant control..well i can cry about it later anyway
5 years later how are you doing?
@@jessmedina4217 I've had much better meds and learning to improve my living conditions. I'm hopping to get an operation that might help me in the next few months. I'm trying to get my depesion to a manageable level it's been hard but trying to focus on the good
People need to stop keep the misrable that want to die in this way alive. A person could be a husk of pain, barley even keeping a conscious, and hooked up on enethstaya all day. Ive seen people nit be able to go to the restroom, wipe, do basic things, and its disturbing. If theyre happy thats good, but if they dont want it, let them go.
Who wants to live in this world the way it's going especially in America the sooner I get out of this world the better
i feel like your life your choice and family has to respect that, we all know what we feel inside and if we want out thats ok.
We should have the choice
Most of abused victims face more than recovery but also the fight with the abusers that never leave them alone and so assisted suicide is what I seemed for years but abusing medical staff never accept it
U go dr. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. This shld be OUR DECISION
I believe physician assisted suicide is acceptable when dealing with individuals who have terminal illnesses.
+Bubbles 007 The video mentions that many of the people aren’t experiencing pain, but they are experiencing misery. If an individual knows that their life will come to an end in some way due to their illness, why should they not have the right to choose? Choosing the option of assisted death could eliminate the pain and suffering someone may experience according to the
illness they have. Many of the individuals who choose assisted suicide are competent, meaning they should have the right to choose what to do with their own life. Physician assisted suicide gives individuals another option when they must face the reality of a terminal illness. Obviously, physician assisted death is not the appropriate option for everyone; however, in most cases, especially for terminal illnesses, I believe it is acceptable. As long as the patient is well informed on the decision he or she is making, a person should have the right to choose whether they are going to die with assistance or die from their diagnosed illness. Putting yourself into that situation, wouldn’t you want to have the ability to choose?
It's not up to you. If you don't agree with suicide then turn the other cheek. People don't want to suffer. 9 times outta 10 people disagree because they live liveable lives. Some people don't. Realize.
I actually support right to die over abortion. (even though I don't support right to die 99% of the time) (just terminally ill etc.) I met a hardcore liberal once, and she was exhibiting extremely dominating and irrational behavior, a type of psychosis, where she almost felt as if my body was her body and she could do with me as she willed. If she wanted me amputated, or killed, it was her choice and she was free to do so.
No human life is a burden
Been looking for this. Found it in the video Top 10 Most Controversial Issues
Who cares whatever their reason is let us out of our body and let us restart and try again
There is no "restart".
Well you never know we are never out of the universe and always a part of it , we just change our forms, but still no force is illuminated @@gregtanner3161
Short Answer: Yes.
Long Answer: Yes. Next Question.
Misery is my reason 😕
I hope youre still here. You have more strength than you know.
@@harrisonosirrah thanks 🙏🏾 it was only a season, I've pulled through that one. I am happier than ever today. Tests and trials happen but the strong pull through 👐🏾
@@adventureswithadrienne thats fantastic to hear. Ive been there too brother. Endure and overcome. You got this.
@@harrisonosirrah I'm actually a sister 😫 but thanks much
@@adventureswithadrienne opps im so sorry. I just glanced at your pic.
Our lives belong to us not to anyone else and no-one has a right to tell people what to do with their own lives so if someone wants to die no-one has a right to stop them.
This is a nice short video that I wish to share with my students in a PN program, during their leadership course.
The great fear is that it will be forced at a set age limit.
Physician-assisted suicide is a polarizing topic, but one that I generally support. It is a troubling thing thinking about a trained medical professional being asked to actively end someone’s life. It seems rather hypocritical, as though it goes directly against an oath that the physician took to do no harm. In my mind it definitely does not. Helping an individual to not suffer is doing good, or reflecting beneficence. Now, there should definitely be limits and restrictions put on who can receive physician-assisted suicide, but it should be available everywhere.
In order for an individual to be eligible for physician-assisted suicide, I think he or she should be diagnosed with a condition that proves to be fatal in a high percentage of cases (maybe 90% of cases for example). That person should also have to get the same diagnosis from multiple doctors. I think the criteria for who is eligible must be strict and restricted to those facing a lethal disease, because actively ending life is still not the mission of a physician. In cases where death is inevitable, his or her autonomy should be respected if assisted suicide is desired.
There are inevitably going to be family members and friends who are saddened and frustrated with a family member’s decision to end their life. I also believe someone who is fully informed of alternatives, legally competent and autonomous can explain their rational that ending their life will actually cause them less pain than living each day. Watching a family member deteriorate over a long timeline may actually be worse for a family than seeing them in a familiar state and watching them pass on their own terms. It would be comforting knowing at the time of a family member’s passing that he or she as in control instead of the disease.
We should be able to walk inside a hospital even if you are not sick. And have this procedure done. Women movement say “ my right my body” and I agree!!
I think if this goes through, we should use it for those people that sue rescuers after an attempted suicide. If they wish to follow through with the lawsuit, they have to first sign a contract saying they agree to assisted suicide immediately after the case.
Apparently you're not understanding the point. assisted suicide is only for terminally ill patients not people who are mentally ill.
Nobody has the right to decide for somebody else if it ok to die as somebody else also doesn't have the right to decide if it ok to continue life. I'll do it too as soon I have to suffer a desease. I will do it neat and proper, not like my father who jumped in front of a train.
I think you're missing the point here. Assisted suicide means someone who is terminally ill and wants to die but have someone there to sit with them while they do it. I think of people are in great physical pain they have the right to die if they want to.
@@chazlaine4072 As you can read, I wrote " as soon I have to suffer a desease", so I think that I didn't miss the point here. Here in the Netherlands people can also get assisted suicide if they suffer mentally in life, like 2 years ago, Noa Pothoven, a 17 yrs old girl got assisted suicide. You can find her story online. Assisted suicide is not only sitting next to somebody but also providing the medicins that somebody has to take in ( by themself).
im showing this video for a speech on this
Yes!!! Iam also watching this for my school debate..
If every time i felt trully miserable I killed myself I would be living my 30th life by now.
I was dead but came back to life. God's plan is the best and His timing is perfect. Pain, suffering and death is sometimes a rite of passage. People must go in their own time. Those who interfere with the Divine Order will share in the destiny of the person they think they are helping.
People need to stop telling other people to kill themselves!
To some weird people it may seem fine to do it over computer.
But just telling someone to kill themselves can really affect them!
No there were people in the comments telling other people to kill themselves over having a certain opinion, i made that comment a long time ago
We don't tell anyone to kill themselves we just say "die if you really want to, it's your right"
Well the same goes for people who force others to live
The argument made here is that patients and their families make a choice to go through with physician assisted suicide and that choice should be respected. This supports the ethical principle of beneficence because this choice benefits everyone involved. They also state that patients go through with physician assisted suicide because they do not want to be a burden. Some would argue that this is not a sufficient reason to go through with physician assisted suicide and that the patient should receive mental health counseling instead. I understand that perspective, but I also want to honor patients’ autonomy. It should be their choice about end of life care.
Why are these people focusing on the issue of personal choice to die, which should obviously be a non-issue since nobody can stop them anyway, but not the disturbing fact that they're trying to recruite these " death volunteers". These people are trying to create a smoke screen and dodging the moral issues of asking another person to commit murder and tarnish their morality.
I am curious to know, out of all the doctors who have done this, even if they and their patients have valid opinions, how the doctors do afterwards. How many regret it? How many of them don't regret it? I know I couldn't do it. I don't agree with it and I just don't like the idea of doctors can kill people, in a sense. Is it murder? To me, not really, but I would not ever feel comfortable doing this. It just feels wrong to me.
Anyone in this situation deserves my respect for enduring such an illness but man... Me no likey this. In the end, no one really wins.
it ends theyre suffering, or the suffering the illness will enventually take them like in the case of ALS, wich now one can cure, its also about dignity, go watch 2010: Kervokian admits helping dozens die :)
Avonlea Montague your dumass is too stupid to even to get into medical school so shut up
Pleasure talking with you.
+Avonlea Montague The doctors do not kill. You are confusing assisted suicide with euthanasia. These laws specifically ban the doctor from even being present. They simply write a prescription for the barbiturates. What feels wrong to me, is people with a terminal diagnosis in misery and suffering, just waiting - waiting - and waiting, day after day pleading with loved ones and health care workers for help that no one can give them.
And did you ever get into medical school? I think not... To be a doctor requires a lot of hard, academic work and is one of the most academic and requires the highest grades in the world...
I want one of those stashes, please.
On Saturday Morning,the Clintons said:"Of course."
Who can be more wicked than one who inventeth a lie against Allah, or saith, "I have received inspiration," when he hath received none, or (again) who saith, "I can reveal the like of what Allah hath revealed"? If thou couldst but see how the wicked (do fare) in the flood of confusion at death! - the angels stretch forth their hands, (saying),"Yield up your souls: this day shall ye receive your reward,- a penalty of shame, for that ye used to tell lies against Allah, and scornfully to reject of His signs!"
6:94
"And behold! ye come to us bare and alone as We created you for the first time: ye have left behind you all (the favours) which We bestowed on you: We see not with you your intercessors whom ye thought to be partners in your affairs: so now all relations between you have been cut off, and your (pet) fancies have left you in the lurch!"
What are you talking about?
Yes it is
It should be legalized around the globe 🌎
Whether you are terminally ill or mentally or not at all.
Mentally placing myself in the shoes of people dealing with conditions such as overwhelming depression or extreme almost insufferable disease, I understand the empathetic draw towards “providing such individuals with relief.” However, ethically, not just morally, I have concerns that sway me away from advocating for rights to physician assisted suicide. I have concerns that there will ultimately be patients who are coerced into the life-ending procedure for the gain of the person doing the coercing. I have concerns that there may be patients who, fearing the worst of a newly diagnosed “terminal” condition, choose to end their life before facing such hardship when undoubtedly such estimations are prone to be inaccurate from time to time. In addition, I worry that in ours and physicians’ efforts to be beneficent towards those in pain, we rob ourselves and them of an undeniable part of life - pain. From an agnostic point of view, how is “relieving” someone of their pain - which will end on its own - in exchange for a potential end of all consciousness, a trade founded on justice or beneficence? In my opinion, it is founded in neither. In my opinion, which I’m open to changing as I learn from others, the desire to relieve the pain of those we see suffering is founded in beneficence, but the action of ending their potential to give to and take from this world, and experience anything at all ever again, is not the approach that should be followed to fulfill that desire. Again, agnostically, we’re providing them with absolute end to all; not relief. I struggle to consider that beneficent or just.
People are not immortal, there will be an "end to everything" for everyone soon enough. Life should be enjoyable or what is the point? If suffering consumes the life, why go on?
I think you make a reasoned post but I think it is just a reflection of societies inability to accept death. Do you think that is possible?
Люди, не будет никакого нового старта здесь, на земле. Вас ждёт 100% посмертная участь в вечности. Забирая у себя жизнь, вы не знаете, как это отразится в посмертии.
Yes!!!!!
I think it's okay, provided that selected family members have given consent.
So it shouldn’t be up to the person who’s living in pain? I would very much disagree with your opinion
@@lukemarshall118 yes
sucide is a option that should be availbe to everyone as long as the person who wants to die has checkd everythign out and made sure it what they want, my bro commited sucide , i would of preferd him doing it family with him then being alone on the cliffs
*I do believe if someone is struggling they should go see help first but this should be Legal*
Yes, the Government does it to its Citizens and Military personnel everyday.
What he didv
It is wrong.
"National Right To Life Committee"....we've got that right already. Just call it what it really is "National Taking Your Rights Away Committee".
This is not Assisted suicide! Death with dignity. Suffering and pain , IMO.
The fact that this subject has actually been legalized is sickening. I understand why but in all reality now that its legalized anyone who wants to go this route has no privacy. You dont get to choose the how, when and where that itll take place. Not saying that i dont agree with peoples reasoning but unless someone has a medical condition that in the end is going to be their fate this should not be an option for people. This is simply a way for the government to have more money and control human population. Just my opinion.
The privacy thing is totally false I know two people one being my grandma who went threw with doctor assisted suicide for her it was because she was in pain and it was untreatable because it was on vital organs and besides family and doctors nobody knew
Its their lives, their choice, simple.
Psychological testing is important
I think that would be the hardest thing to do.
It is the humane thing to do. Misery is painful and existing is not living it becomes a burden to the family or caregiver, just my opinion!
It is Allah Who has sent down the Book in Truth, and the Balance (by which to weigh conduct). And what will make thee realise that perhaps the Hour is close at hand?
42:18
Only those wish to hasten it who believe not in it: those who believe hold it in awe, and know that it is the Truth. Behold, verily those that dispute concerning the Hour are far astray.
42:17-18
What?
Only humans commit suicide. No other animal.The problem is we can kill the physical but not the spiritual part of ourself.We will have to face our fears one way or another. That is why we have to commit suicide before we die.Kill the ego.We were somewhere before we came here, so there is a good chance we will exist somewhere else after.It is what Jesus talked about, buddha,lau tzu mahavir,ramakrisna,Mahavir,, many other so called enlightened people
Haven’t there been cases of dolphins committing suicide?
For many of us, we like ourselves and would like to go on but our bodies are broken. For some, their mental status. But I think people going this route, probably myself, we do lose our ego along the way. I am facing this and I am letting go of attachments little by little. I don't know about total ego death, but it's lessening little by little. Peace.
@@joecheffo5942 great book by Osho.Called the "Art of Dying"
These people who commit suicide will go to HELL their not going on a journey their not going on a adventure they will go straight to HELL and there they will regret rejecting Jesus Christ
Says who?
@@lukemarshall118 says the word of God
How do you know the Bible is actually true?
@@lukemarshall118 why don’t you read it and you will see that it’s true if you are honest
@Robert Plenty of people have read it. Doesn’t make it true. And you still don’t know for sure if it’s the truth, you just believe that it is. And even if it is true I doubt that assisted suicide would get you sent there.
You know there’s a Heaven and a Hell, stop lying to yourself. I bet it’s hard as you tell yourself over and over there’s no Hell don’t worry self when I die that’s just it. Ya you tell yourself that every time but the fact is yes there’s a Heaven and a Hell and a God who created them and you will see Hell first hand