“Anyone Who’s Against It Should Be Ashamed” James Whale Backs Campaign To End Assisted Dying Ban
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- čas přidán 28. 12. 2023
- Dame Esther Rantzen has said she is considering the option of assisted dying if her lung cancer treatment does not improve her condition.
The 83-year-old Childline founder and broadcaster, who revealed in May that her cancer had progressed to Stage 4, has joined Swiss organisations Dignitas.
TalkTV’s James Whale, who also has stage four cancer, is lending his support.
He’s joined by Esther Rantzen’s daughter Rebecca Wilcox to talk about her campaign to end the ban.
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My whole life, I've been on the pro side, after watching my grandparents and aunt die in the most painful ways. That was until I saw Canada. 7% of adults have opted for suicide in the past year and the number is increasing. They're not even terminally ill. They have adverts for it being 'life-affirming'. They've expanded it so that those suffering from mental health problems, the poor and disabled can now opt for it even though they don't have a terminal illness. A man who scientist with two PhDs, very well educated, had a life-altering illness and requires round the clock care but while the hunt was on for suitable care for him, he was holding a bed that the hospital required and they were trying to coerce him into going for assisted suicide and even said they'd run up his hospital bills so high that in the end he'd have no choice. The government are persuading homeless people to go down the route as well, and they're going to be introducing it so that minors can have it without parental consent. Think it sounds preposterous, I urge anyone to look it up. It's very well-documented and there is even a documentary film on it. It's horrific. Don't tell me for a second that hospitals with a history of covering up deaths in the UK wouldn't opt for this when beds are being blocked because there's no care in place at someone's home. Don't tell me that the government with its history of covering up massive hospital scandals would never go down this route to lower the figures for hospital waiting lists, or people in care, etc. If you believe that this wouldn't happen then you're an absolute fool.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts…these are my fears too.
@@nowords1988 it isn’t … read about Canada and it’s “voluntary” euthanasia policies and just whom it’s affecting. Hitler had similar policies wrt people who weren’t “economically viable”
I am from the UK and have lived in Canada for over 45 years. What you have indicated is complete and utter rubbish. No one is forced into assisted death. You mentioned a scientist who to quote you: " they were trying to coerce him into going for assisted suicide and even said they'd run up his hospital bills so high that in the end he'd have no choice". This is bullshit. Unlike the US or even the UK there are no private hospitals in Canada period. There are no charges for hospital stays. I should be a poster child for assisted death. I am 70 years old. I have a chronic illness for which I have to take a medication every 8 weeks which costs $5000 CAD per infusion ($30,000 per year) paid for by the Canadian government. I have never been pressured into assisted dying by anyone of the numerous hospitals where I have had surgery.
If you believe any old crap published in the tabloid press or on social media then you're an absolute fool.
@@nowords1988 It is called Medical Assistance In Dying (MAID) and it is frighteningly real.
As an only child brought up by one parent, my father, I watched him die of lung cancer. He said to me he wasn’t afraid of dying but was afraid of dying in pain. I walked into his hospital room when he was days from dying and he was shaking uncontrollably from head to foot. The horrendous treatment from the NHS has left be traumatised and that was back in 2000. They didn’t have the time or compassion to properly care for him. There were other incidents. Thankfully I got him into a hospice and he died peacefully, probably from an overdose of morphine which we know that goes on, lawfully but puts doctors in that position, that they have to give it for pain relief but knowing it could end that person’s life. It shouldn’t be like this. I agree with James.
My Dad had lots of heart attacks, a stroke, kidney failure and Leaukemia…. Given a quick fix in this country he would of chosen when but thankfully he did not he had a whole year of his children taking care of him, laughing with him, arguing with him, so many memories, so much healing…. And one afternoon he died when we were with him…. What a gift, what a privilege - don’t take your life, please go naturally… you have so much to give, like you said last year you were in a wheelchair imagine you not being here now, everyone has a purpose… right up until the end…. Even the very infirm , like my dad was able to show his grandchildren the value of family, of caring, of selflessness x please go naturally
I watched my mother die of cancer and you wouldn't have left a dog like that, but I do know that it is up for abuse so the right laws need to be in place.
And my father with the same he tryed so hard to stay
Yeh same as my brother 💔 doc said although he’s dying he’s young fit and very strong and his cancer pain we can’t get on top of , some we can and others no . If had had the courage I would have ended his pain as I really thought about it ! as it was unbearable to see him in such pain , just so very cruel . My thoughts are with you ❤️
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Doctors told us to give my dad his medicine when he asked for it. By the end he was a bag of bones and in extreme pain. When all treatments have been exhausted, then it's a kindness to let them go peacefully without pain.
Just wanted to send you a big hug James ❤,never sent one before,just felt like I needed to.
We live in Oregon where assisted dying IS legal; it’s quite freeing knowing it is an option, should we ever need it.
3 to 6 months left , thats terrible but i feel a miracle on the way james , praying for you
Happy New Year and well wishes to James and Family.
As long as there is substantial safeguards in place, there can be no argument!
There's always an argument and as for safeguards see Canada where asking for a stairlift will prompt a suggestion that you seek medical aid in dying.
No one in their right mind wants to emulate Canada in any way.
Even if they put safeguards in place, they can easily be taken away. It's a very dangerous road to go down.
@@catwoman7462 The dangerous road to go down is to keep letting the government think that it owns our bodies, and that it can override our voluntary contracts.
@@tonyoliver2750 I live in Canada. What you indicated is untrue. This is not government policy but some government employee who is now fired took it upon themselves to offer this option. The former employee is currently under investigation by police. I am 70 years old with a chronic illness. My meds cost $5000 CAD every 2 months.
No has suggested that I choose assisted death. Stop reading BS published on social media or by the tabloid press.
Are we going back to the early 1900’s and ok euthanasia.
If the government passes these laws and allows this they can then empower themselves to decide who should be Euthanized too. Slippery slope.
Remember when we said allowing this will lead to that. Abortion for instance Safe, legal and rare is now whenever, often and for whatever.
Good.
Yeah I'm at the start of my cancer journey. I don't know what stage i have yet. But if it's bad i would want to have that choice.
You and every other rational person who doesn't live by a single book. I wish you well.
Lots of love to you, I wish you well too.
@@Pear-zo4em thanks. 🙏
@@Tess_Tickal thanks
I felt i could comment on this now i have skin in the game. 😔
Why should people be 'ashamed' for having a different opinion? I'm pro-assisted dying myself, but we are allowed to have the conversation and disagree.
I don’t know what treatment Esther had. I was very fortunate to have something called SABR - I have a sneaking feeling that Esther may have had the same. After 3 months I had a CT scan which took 6 weeks to report on and it was stated that there was no change. 6 weeks later, I had another CT scan which, because I was in hospital, was reported within 2 days (basically, 6-7 months after the end of my treatment). This time it was reported that my lung cancer was shrinking. All I am saying Esther, is keep getting 2nd opinions, don’t just take the first one as gospel
I think this is the first time I agree with James. Being able to go to another country, for assisted dying is a privilege of the wealthy.
Check New Zealand’s assisted dying policy x Blessing for the decision that is right for you and your loved ones.
Believe it or not Mr Whale, but just because people disagree with you it doesn't make them bad, or wrong.
@@osamassamosa5979 So since you disagree with me you should be ashamed of yourself?
Yes, it does in some situations if he said abusing your partner is wrong, you would be bad or wrong, not to agree with him
Yes, it does make them wrong, because anyone against assisted dying is a communist dictator.
New Zealand has Assisted Dying but there is a very strict eligibility criteria. You must be experiencing unbearable suffering from a terminal illness (that medication is failing to treat) with an advanced state of irreversible decline in physical capability, must be over 18 and it must be a terminal illness that is likely to end your life within six weeks. You also must be competent to make an informed decision about Assisted Dying with two independent doctors assessing the eligibility of the patient. Assisted Dying is performed in home or in a community setting by medical and nurse practitioners. The person seeking Assisted Dying can choose to involve their family or other support people in parts of the process, however the family or support people cannot choose Assisted Dying on the person's behalf. Again, this is how New Zealand deals with Assited Dying.
You choose this option for your pets when they're in extreme pain, slowly dying. Why not let people have this choice for themselves when they're in extreme pain, slowly dying?
Fascinating discussion, and what a charmingly knowing understanding daughter Mrs Rantsen has...
If I want to die then I should be allowed too!! I’m in my late forties and have suffered in pain for most of my life with various illnesses.
I work hard to help myself get through the day but if my health becomes worse I’d rather die with dignity
My aunt kept goin to the gp for ages in pain. They told her she was a hypercondriact and to go home and creosote the fence. She died not long after. Personally, I think they had a life insurance policy on her and collected when she died, giving her sons a little bit of it to make their lives a little better. The sons obviously know nothing about the scam, fortunately! They say they'd rather hav their mother than any amount of money.
Where are the "my body, my choice" people? It's okay to end life at the beginning willy nilly, but we can't choose it at the end? We let our pets go to end their suffering, yet we can't do it for ourselves. So backwards.
If you allowed assisted dying in the UK, then it would notJust stop at the understandable terminal cases atp their end of life. The country that have allowed this, have stretched it so far that those suffering depression or mentall illness,even children,can request it.
Annoying elderly relatives could be persuaded for immoral reasons
So what happens when it becomes compulsory not voluntary, be careful of the slippery slope.
My cousin Linda said I want a bed at home
They fetched her one out
She said I'm ready to meet up with them
Who I knew down here
She had Macmillan nurses
When you are in pain
And you really want to go
Why not
Respect other peoples opinion James Whale&co.
I think it should be legal but strictly end of life or exceptional circumstance because I was in a serious bike accident and I’m never going to walk properly again I was very depressed and even looked in too how much it would cos me but although I’m not happy with my life because I’m in pain constantly an don’t have no energy but I have had a little girl since my accident and she makes it all worth the struggles I go through everyday
Rebecca Wilcox "Do you like my Hannukah bush?"
Crickets from the boys, so rude.
Don't worry James, set ya sen up a crowd funding page I'm sure you'll soon get enough donations to make absolutely certain you get to Dignitas 😂😂😂
I remember Esther when she went to private school North London Collediate School my mother and grandmother was cooks there and at Christmas the staff children got invited to Christmas party i was offeted a place at the school by my Dad said no as he could not sfford the frees it was a lovely school a remember the old wide stair csse that kids usedvto slide down all the best Esther
i think james is very brave god love him x
7:27 😢❤ made me cry
James and Ash are genial
If only the average Joe knew, the NHS is already doing this. Its almost an "unwritten rule". They dont stretch the limits at all , unless you are someone "special". This whole talk is contextual. Talk about capitalistic countries like the US and this hot air would make any sense. This whole talk just goes to show that the NHS is doing a good job with the "unwritten rule". BTW, spoken from experience !
If its regulated, then what is the problem ?
Because regulations have a habit of changing to suit agendas
There is no problem. These people can only counter with slippery slope fallacies and hypothetical conspiracy theories about eugenics.
@@levi5073 yep! Right! Slippery slope? Hmmm. Some bloke called Hitler “euthanised”, alternatively murdered, 1000s of people who were “economically inactive” … the old, the infirm, the disabled … I’m guessing you’re speaking as a fit and healthy male? So this all theoretically ok? Policies change, rules change, laws change, governments aren’t always benign. Be careful what you wish for.
I didn't realize that this was an issue in the UK. I'm in California, and despite our many faults, I am glad that "Death with Dignity" is an option. I've been to an "End of Life" celebration for a friend who knew she had terminal cancer, and we had a get-together of friends and family so she could say good-bye and also hear the praise that's usually said at a funeral. After most people left, and it was just the family who wanted to be there, she was given the medicines and instructions on how to mix everything and then drink the concoction. According to a couple of the family members, her passing was very peaceful.
'assisted' meaning they wont a person to commit murder for them
Nope. You can literally press your own button to release the poison. The carers simply set up the equipment.
God bless James!!!
God has nothing to do with this man. Even God has his limits.
Why?
Its the itchy and scratchy show!!!
They could give a live demonstration propping up TalkTV ratings the bald one and the guy wearing the rats nest would be perfect guinea pigs.
What a sad person you are!!
Get these amazing intellectuals off the tube really!!!!!
You might not see new year!
My dad had MND in 2005. He made a living will. My mum had a stroke in 2017 and spent 5 yrs in a carehome. 2 role models in HOW to die. 🌻🪻