Disney’s New Star Wars Force Power Is Ridiculous
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Just when you think Disney’s Star Wars can’t get any worse they prove once again that they have no idea what George Lucas' original films were about. A new Force power has been added to the Star Wars canon and it is easily the most ridiculous yet. Sit back, relax, and let me explain how bad they got it. - Zábava
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reminds me of good memoris i can still kick i have my legs😅
That moment when paw patrol the mighty movie is better than most Star Wars things. Speaking of, when’s that review coming?
Look up Poem by Anonymous Samurai . The most important part of the poem is that the author was anonymous. If Jedi were fashioned after samurai, the people writing these stories fail to understand the selfless nature of Jedi.
Medically speaking they probably could. Pretty sure we graft on body parts so all you need to do is grow them.
But not from the force
I will never forgive Disney after Rey learned Force Healing when Anakin literally fell to the dark side just to try and save Padme. Without training, she learned something that one of the most powerful Force users in the universe couldn't. Disney is cancer.
Yeah but.... "Rey" though...
Mary sue’s
"I will never forgive Disney after Rey learned Force Healing when Anakin literally fell to the dark side just to try and save Padme. Without training, she learned something that one of the most powerful Force users in the universe couldn't. Disney is cancer."
Selective complaining about inconsistency, thinking this whole series has anything to do with established "power levels" and how much you need to "train" for them, then getting hilariously emotionally indignant about it too - walking stereotype lol.
I could be wrong but I thought Anakin turned to the dark side when he chose to save Palpatines life over Mace Windu's, committing (a) murder of a human being (ignoring any "Mace Survived" retcons) and (b) dramatically- narrative wise- literally selecting "*Sith*" over **Jedi**- albeit because he wanted to save Padme.
It was *that*- self interest over his moral compass that turned him, not the pursuit of control of a body's biology to regenerate cells to heal...
(I also wonder if those dreams of Padme dying were put in his head by Palpaltine, **too**- who I think would "know" everything.
That might be well established as an idea I dont know.)
@@WreckageBrother-rd5zfHow is it selective when it is a recurring theme and staple to the modern day of Star Trash?
It’s sad what Disney did to Star Wars, unforgivable
You should see what they do to kids! Reprehensible!
Yet predictable
What really upsets me is all the legacy LucasArts properties they now own. Lucas basically gave them away to a corporation that won't do a thing with them rather than somebody who actually loved them and could have developed them. George Lucas should be ashamed of himself.
@@insensitive919 he was upset with the toxic fans after all the years. Just took a payday.
Ridiculous! Only bad things from Disney SW are E8+9!
You Legends fans need to go away! Go watch John Wick or STar Trek or whatever if you hate Disney so much but stop whining around! You are no Star Wars Fans, you Version of star wars is long dead and buried !
BTW!
Disney STar Wars was 100 Times better than the stupid EU Fan Fiction verse!
6:25 “I need da magic haaaaaaaaands!” gets me every time 🤣🤣🤣
Even reading it again here gets me 😂
It's brilliant cause it's true. That and the Yoda part with his force explosions
@@tippylongdog1039that was pretty sweet to watch.
Just subbed because of that. Done and done.
One thing: In the original trilogy, the Jedi Mind Trick was not mind control. It was more of a persuasion. "These aren't the droids you're looking for", "You will take me to Jabba now. You serve your master well. And you will be rewarded." These are persuasions. Not commands.
It felt like a very mild dominate to me, but maybe I'm splitting hairs here. Domination requires the target not being aware they're being dominated, like in the game Vampire the Masquerade (I was a storyteller for a number of years when RL BS got in the way of the chronicle I was running at the time, and that was how I explained/interpreted the Domination ability for players: just a stronger persuasion but the target (usually low-willpower humans) is unaware of they're being dominated. I always thought that one can be aware they're being persuaded to do something, they can just not let themselves be persuaded.
The Sith, on the other hand, would totally dominate someone's mind.
"Go home and rethink your life".
I mean yeah there was some persuasion, but it was a form of mind control. People acted in a way they normally would not.
@@joelt2002 I think he said, "You *want* to go home and rethink your life." Which does fit his explanation.
@kickingbackpunchingcones4099 nah but he zapped mace windy first
Robot Head is spitting facts. His videos have better editing and attention to detail that engage with the core Star Wars audience then Disney's new cr*ppy Star Wars does.
Speak it! Speak it! I'm growing a limb right now!
Ditto
@@handsolo1076 name checks out 😂
But didn't George Lucas broke his own rules it in Attack of the clones when Yoda fights Dooku?
@@stellviahohenheim George Lucas did a lot of dumb things in the prequels, which is why they are not, in fact, good no matter how bad Disney gets....
The only time Force healing is any good is in a videogame. Good for filling a health bar, not so much for open-heart surgery.
Force healing and the Force projection thing have actually been in the canon for an extremely long time.
Healing was a very rare and difficult ability, however. The way it was portrayed in the Expanded Universe was far more believable.
Im not against them introducing it into the films at all. However... the way they DID DO IT-- No thank you, please.
@@CleverGirlAAH I feel like they should have mentioned it in the Prequels, it would have lent more credibility to its inclusion in Expanded Universe material. But I completely believe it as a Force ability. Like you said though, it just got pulled out of thin air for plot convenience. Bad writing.
@@ArvelDreththey did mention it in the prequels.
"ironic, he could save the ones he loved from dying, but not himself."
but as with EU, lucas star wars had a draw back to every power to add conflict. this one being you cant learn this power from a jedi.
@@daslynnter9841 they talk about it like it's much different than simply healing wounds though and it's not talked about as a Jedi ability. That's what I mean. It is talked about like it's some crazy secret to actual immortality that only one person knew of, when that's not what Force healing is at all.
@@ArvelDreth exactly. If they had explained how Rey knew of this power and how it was believed to only be a legend, the whole thing would have been more believable. Especially if Rey was the only one to use it. But with Kylo Ren learning it instantly it looks too easy to be believable
This idea actually feels like something I'd make up as a kid while playing with toys. Not even joking.
The force block shit?
Lucas: "The Force is a mysterious energy that can influence the Universe in subtle ways - after many years of intensive training"
Dizney: "The Force is a magic wand to fix gigantic plot holes, that can do ANYTHING the writer requires in the moment - no questions asked"
The very first movie establishes what the Force is, it is a an energy field that suffuses the Galaxy and every living thing within it. Jedi and Sith are special because they can sense and manipulate that energy. The emotional state and desires of the user affects how their abilities manifest.
There is also a spiritual aspect in that, while it doesn't have a personality or desires, the Force does have some kind of will and control over fate. I always have seen Force Ghosts as something like the voice of the Force. They guide the living, but can't directly interact with the living world.
The Force has been made more complex and confusing over the years even under Lucas, but there was always a pretty clear foundation and basic rules. If a writer just had respect to those basic rules, he could work within the Star Wars universe. Even if you want to introduce new, very specific powers (like with the Battle Meditation in Kotor) you could as long as you explain them and actually try to fit them within the confines that were already established.
Modern Star Wars "writers" don't seem to care about working within any confines. They just pull whatever out of their behinds. Lucasfilm doesn't seem to care one bit about their own continuity. Pablo Hidalgo gets paid to do nothing but act superior on social media. All the respect is gone.
Sure the EU had some weird choices. But it did not slowly forget what it was originally.
the force now has a system of some ascended entities, and time travel, and wolves for whatever reason
Darth Vader: Uses the force to grow force limbs to use the force to force crush some droids
Why the extra step?
Only because the writers thought it would look cool, without realising how dumb it actually is.
Disney keeps proving it's not canon, never has been, never will be.
That's why I always refer to it as Disney Canon.... It's literally nothing but horrible Disney fanfiction
@@rcdune7132It doesent deserve the word. Neither Canon nor Fan, nor fiction. It should be called out as what it is. Sellout by greed.
@@supergaugesicht9981 Amen to that💯
Disney anti-fan fiction.
@@RoboticPope "Didney"
robot head keeps it real and calls out the major flaws of ahsoka, disney basically turned the force into a participation trophy
Are you surprised? The participation trophy generation is who's writing the crap stories now. They've contaminated every aspect of life growing up not knowing what failure is and how important it
is to learn and grow from failing. Winning also has its lessons, like how to win graciously and not rubbing it in. Alls this gen learned was showing was good enough.
In the old books they did have an over powered concept of Oneness with the force.
People in desperate situations getting so attuned with the force that become near invulnerable for a while.
Usually they did not survive it though.
One of them is described as essentially burning away while preventing an army from reaching his friends.
One collapses a massive corusant building on himself and the enemies.
The EU was pretty much fan fiction, so just because it appeared in a book doesn’t justify where we are today.
@@tylerskissAnd it was burned down mostly because of stuff like this.
@@tylerskissIt's all fan fiction. This Disney stuff sucks but so do a lot of the old books. I love the original trilogy but if you can't see the cheese you're blind.
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except sabine was never force sensitive in the first place
The main problem is that the Force went from subtle and mysterious to a heavy-handed get out of jail free card that can just do whatever the writer thinks is cool.
Robot Head understands Star Wars more than anyone who writes for Star Wars.
I used to watch the originally trilogy at least once a year.
Now I couldn't care less.
They spent over 4 billion on a franchise then completely obliterated the whole thing.
Letting go of Star Wars has actually made me a better man. lol
This guy that thinks Star Wars should be about lightsabers and the Force ONLY - because he doesn't know about X-wing Rogue Squadron novels, Republic Commando game and books, Han Solo novels, etc. Because yeah, it's not Star Wars if it doesn't have flashing swords or space magic (even tho it's a massive universe with countless possibilites).
@@user-yy5di3qg5ustar wars would be nowhere near as popular if it weren't for the force and lightsabers. It's the best part about star wars without a doubt.
My cat also understands Star Wars more than anyone in the Lucasfilm Story Group. The contents of my cat's litterbox understands Star Wars more than anyone in the Lucasfilm Story Group.
@user-yy5di3qg5u
You do realize that the Force is INTEGRAL to the identity of Star Wars, right? Without the Force, SW is just another generic scifi clone universe. Even light sabers (laser swords) are not unique to Star Wars, nor was it the first ot have/use them. What is unique is the Force, and more specifically, how it works and influences the universe itself.
Destroy the Force, and you destroy Star Wars. Remove the Force, it's no longer Star Wars. So yes, a show/book/comic that messes up the force is antithetical to Star Wars.
Not to mention that giving these formaly non-force sensitive chacracters, like Sabine and Hera, the force completely defeats the purposes of their past characterizations
The idea that only a few people could learn the force was invented in the EU, which was never canon. Lucas then invented midichlorians, which were stupid as hell. Ultimately, the idea of force sensitivity is just Chosen One fantasy nonsense that Lucas tried to science up with Eugenics and then people got annoyed so they threw it all out and now anyone can use the Force again if they work at it, just like in the OT.
@@MrBazBake Yes, the EU actually canon before Disney took over. wherever there was disagreement, Clone Wars and the movies came out on top canonically, but that's completely different. Also, while not mentioned in the OT, it was heavily implied that only certain people could use the force (otherwise, why wouldn't Obi Wan have you know, trained other people? If just anyone could see Obi Wan and Yoda as force ghosts, than why would they have made such a big deal about Luke and Leia? Why would Yoda say "there is another" if anyone on the planet could train to be a Jedi?
@@HumanoidDerpling Also, the Jedi are seeking out force-sensitive individuals and takin them into the Order, which would be a useless distinction if everyone was a potential force user.
Bloody hell. I’m genuinely surprised they haven’t used the Force to time travel into woke multiverses. But maybe I shouldn’t be giving these hacks ideas.
The kids who grew up with the Star Wars Clone Wars cartoons love Dave filoni, and he introduced time travel into Star Wars. It's going to happen
Are you 12? Grow up
@@BurnDoubt I enjoy the clone wars, but filoni is an absolute hack.
Please delete your comment before they see it!
Between the world between worlds and the Mortis gods it’s going to happen.
Youd think Vader would remember that the very first thing he ever did after waking up in the suit is force crush a bunch of droids.
The kicker to me is how incredulous Sabine looks after she manages that push. If she was surprised that she could do it, that means she didn't believe it was within her ability. Which by the old Lucas logic given through Yoda, means she should have failed and Ezra would have fallen to his death. The silly "limb" ability was also used by the rather dull fake-out villain in the game Jedi Survivor. But then he also did the cringe emo nonsense of disassembling his saber and "bleeding" its crystal shortly after being awakened. I still find that explanation for a red saber to be among the dumbest, most edgelord-inspired POS ideas of the bunch.
The Force is literally an analogy for faith.
If you don't have faith, the Force doesn't work.
Yes, Ezra tries to jump a span of 30 meters to a higher platform (and why were the doors open? I’ve never been on a plane where the doors are open as we taxi to the runway, let alone after takeoff.), and he relies on Sabine’s force power to boost him. But he never knew her to have much ability. I would have been rolling on the floor opinions he just plummeted to his death in a sad case of “what the hell were you thinking?”
@@mikekolokowsky Only, it isn't a plane, it is a Star Destroyer, isn't it? The bottom hangar of the Star Destroyers have been, to my knowledge, always been an open, gaping hole in the bottom of the vessel. Atmosphere was kept in by force fields that could let large objects, like Tie Fighters or humans, pass through. So, it isn't like planes in that regard.
Anway, it still is stupid that suddenly a lot of people with little to no training in the Force, are able to do higher level force abilities.
Well, me personally? When I saw that part when Sabine used to force and pushed Ezra and like...I mean, she just looked so friggin stunning...and brave, I mean godDAMN she looked so brave afterwards. I was LITERALLY SHAKING when I saw that scene! She seriously lived through that? Like, oh my GOL! One second Ezra jumps in the air and then the next, VROOSH! Sabine's just looking at him and thinking if she should start to think about maybe giving him consent to make eye contact with her. I mean he IS a Cis gendered male, and white passing so, she's always got to be on guard around him because at any second and I mean ANY second, out of nowhere, he could SA her and then commit a genocide racism against her.
But she has nothing to worry about because I'M watching her back. I'm protecting her the same way that Obi-Wan was protecting Princess Leah and that other.....dumb kid that was in the show for some reason and has nothing to do with the story whatsoever, duh. SO stupid ya know? Literally makes no sense whatsoever. And I already know that Sabine knows that I know, that she knows that I have her back and I'm watching. I'm also making DANG sure that my gaze doesn't go below her shoulder blades because unlike all of these other "CHUD misogynists" that are literally committing a genocide racism attack crime against like everybody, I RESPECT Birthing People and I will continue to do it even if I die from it killing me!
Force is Female y'allz, slay queenz!...emoji.
@@Schnittertm1 Yes. Correct. ISDs have their hangars always open.
That said, ISDs are also not supposed to enter low atmosphere.
No one is ever tempted to the Dark Side because the writers think of themselves as good people. They literally cannot comprehend how someone they consider a bad person would think, and because they're incapable of that empathy they can't fathom how their self-insert OC would ever become a bad person. You would expect defections to both sides in a Star War, but it's always one direction because they can't grasp the motivations of either side and just default to the "good guys."
Disney can do whatever they want with SW because the only people still paying attention to it haven't seen the OT and only care about whatever the next WOW! Moment is.
Sad and tragic that everything said in this is so absolutely true. Perhaps there’s also “Force wardrobe power” that keeps Rey’s and others costumes always fitted and immaculate.
I mean like 85% is true but he's added in a lot of complaints with either an obvious explanation or things that were added in by GORGE LUCAS that weren't an issue until Disney took over. For example, the bombing sequence in TLJ actually makes sense. the ship has its own artificial gravity, that forces the explosives out of the ship and they just carry that momentum until the hit the ship. Darth maul survived being CUT IN HALF because he was fuelled by hatred and revenge. The grand inquisitor doing the same is feasible. Magic has also been canon in star wars since Lucas helmed star wars. and that's all from the first minute and a half of the video. I'm not going to defend Disney because they have made mistakes. but I feel like fans constantly complain even if the product is good because its such a star wars fan thing to do. They did it with the prequels, the clone wars even Return of the Jedi.
Not everything. 😂
"Clothes Beam!"
@@brycetjbarber8822you’re seriously defending the gravity in space? Lol. That’s not at all how it works. If anything the nearest planet is where the bombs would go (they were right by a planet that would be the only source of real gravitational pull in that area due to its sheer size) but they would go very very very slowly. If you don’t understand physics just don’t even bother pretending
@@brycetjbarber8822traaaaaaaaaaaaash
You're defending progressive propaganda because they properly indoctrinated you
I always liked how the extended universe handled force healing. More a specialized talent than a skill you could just learn. And took so much out of you in use it was a serious risk to use. While people like Windu could stop someone bleeding out via the force (like in shatterpoint) it was a creative way to show his use of the force. And both of course weren't easy fit tricks and land long term repercussions
Well, if I remember correctly, force healing was also apart of the extended universe. But I believe it was only intended to be used as a game mechanic in the Jedi knight games rather then an actual cannon force ability.
A few healing gifted jedi could use it but it takes a full day and knocked them on their ass with exhaustion
I know for a fact it was a game mechanic in the revenge of the sith game. But I always chalked that up to "battle meditation"
Wasn’t the entire reason Anakin turned to the dark side because he nor Palpatine knew that power? 2 of the most powerful Sith/jedi of all time couldn’t do it but out of nowhere Rey suddenly has the ability.
It was boosted for gameplay but force healing is a thing but it only made healing slightly faster at most. It still took time to heal.
Yes, Barriss Offee and Luminara Unduli could. It also was canon. It was the main reason Barriss turned evil. It was Lucas canon. It was super rare though.
The Ashoka show actually had a good opportunity to create a whole new galaxy. Filoni could have introduced some of his ideas there and had the show been about this new galaxy. Instead the “heroes” travelled to an entire different galaxy and visited 1 planet. Just 1.
Then at the end when the heroes are rescued and enemies defeated they can go back to the original galaxy and nobody would believe their stories.
The only thing I was kind of looking forward to was what strange new stuff we would see in a different galaxy. Instead we got an incredibly boring planet with rocky tundra and normal grass. A sentient race that lived in camps and houses with completely recognisable instruments and clothing. And technology on exactly the same level as galaxy prime. Their houses had repulsorlift technology and they were even able to help Huyang fix Ahsokas ship apparently. Absolutely insane and stupid in every way. I was kind of hoping Thrawn may have gotten in with the Vong or something. I should have known better.
There is really nothing that happens in the "new" galaxy that could not have happened in the Star wars galaxy. Also in the EU the Jedi were afraid to leave their galaxy because they *might* not have the force. Could have made for an interesting story and unique stakes. But that would take talent.
When the rules change too many times nothing matters anymore. Why be invested in something when the next movie/show/book/etc. will retconn it anyway?
If the implications of "new thing" aren't considered before implementing it, it can devalue everything that came before...
It feels like every IP is destined to go down this route.
"Magic hands" will always be cannon in Disney SW...... 😂
Ahsoka: I can’t train Grogu because he’s grown too attached to the Mandalorian
Also Ahsoka: I want to keep trying to train Sabine even tho she sacrificed the galaxy for a friend (singular).
1:03 I had forgotten how comically that line was delivered. It's like the actor made a parody take and the editors thought it was the best one.
No the editor didn’t think it was the best take, it was the best take. After seeing Asoka, I have seen more expression and life out of a cardboard cutout. Not to mention, a lot shorter pauses between lines too from the cardboard cutouts.
Force Healing is an ability introduced in the 'Star Wars: Legacy' comics and required mastery of Force Lightning, controlling the flow of energy so that it heals instead of injures. The comics were very good about the back and forth of the Jedi and Sith - the Jedi would create a thing and the Sith would perfect it (lightsabers going from being tethered to a belt-worn battery pack to being self-contained) or the Sith would create a thing and the Jedi would perfect it (converting Force Lightning into Force Healing). However, while Rey demonstrates an affinity for Force Lightning (a darkside ability), she never demonstrates mastery, therefore her ability to use Force Healing isn't earned.
The only one who mastered force lightning completely was Darth vitiate also known as Emperor Valkorion
Legacy also starred Cade skywalker, the jedi who was so proficient at this he could revive the dead, and was the ONLY jed who could do that.
In the expanded universe or legends books, Luke learned to force heal, but it was only to himself not other people, he was go into a force transe and be in a meditation like state for a few days just to heal some wounds until he could get in a bacta tank.
In addition to that from what i understand healing was a slow and time consuming process that required a lot of skill and was more an aid in healing
@@d4arken3ds0ulIndeed. Or at least that's how I remember it.
And that's how it should be kept, to not make the ability *too* convenient.
No minute long quick recovery for you, Kylo, I'm sorry.
While force healing existed in Legends (the real canon, IMO,) it was nothing like the garbage Disney put on screen because the plot needed it. Even the strongest force healers could heal only minor flesh wounds and fatigue. It was more of a boost to help survive combat more so than an actual heal. Curing major injuries took intense concentration and meditation, and even then wasnt 100% successful.
The most serious case of "force healing" (that being Mon Mothma's nano-disease in the Jedi Academy trilogy) wasn't actually force healing at all. Every last nanomachine was taken out of her body in a meticulous, grueling process that lasted like half a day. The second most serious one, that being the cure of Anja Gallandro's eventually fatal spice addiction, only cured the deadly part, not the addiction part.
They were never canon, just allowed content. The movies are the only canon.
Force Healing did exist already in the Canon of EU (see Jedi Knight: DF2) but it's not the healing of others and it would be a lot milder than what Rey did.
And another thing about it... it was just a game mechanic. Should've remained as such. Else they may as well grant Vader force shape shifting and have him turn himself into a scorpion...
Obi-Wan Force healed Luke in A New Hope, in their first scene together.
@@Grim2 No, it existed - Cade Skywalker learned to use it at a later point. That said, the way it was used (instant healing, potentially from the point of near-death to full healthiness) was a game mechanic.
Has anyone explained how light sabers can be used as helicopters or autogyro? A light saber beam is pure energy. It doesn't take the shape of a wing. Helicopters are called rotory-wing aircraft. Each of their blades are shaped like a wing you would see on an airplane. These wings can be pitched in flight. But light sabers are just energy blades. How exactly are they cable of creating a difference in air pressure to generate lift?
Disney is too stupid to understand physics.
The only explanation is "Filoni is an actual manchild with no concept of physics". He sees a stick-shaped object, he thinks it's a stick, and he thinks a stick can make you fly if spun fast enough because helicopters have spinning rotors that do it, even though heli blades are very specifically shaped as wings to do it. But boys imagine it all the time, so he still does. The fact that it's not a material object but plasma and/or energy doesn't enter his mind to begin with. Look at how his writing treats sabers, it's like they're steel rapiers.
And if someone's gonna say "force levitation!", there's no need to fake-helicopter anything in that case, you just float yourself.
Yes, the poor authors had to make up some bullshit to cover Filoni's ass. Basically the Inquisitors are just using the force to fly around like that via their lightsabers. The logic kind of works though, but that is only because there are still competent writers who can cover for Filoni's laziness.
@@dutchrjenYeah, but this very scientifically explanation was created by fans. The disney writers just sat there and thought "Yeah spinning helicopter blade cool" and added it.
@@dutchrjen If they're in the disk, they don't need to spin or have sabers activated to float. Because the other example doesn't. That'd mean they just have a float-generating disk that doesn't need any helicopter mimicking, but that never happens.
I just read the comic, I'm not sure Vader literally regrew his limbs. It looks more like the panel was put under a lens that shows Vader's 'ethereal' body, which we also saw when Vader entered the afterlife, or when he meditates. It's just to make the panel look more intense, otherwise you just see a limbless body sit up against a wall while two droids seem to randomly explode.
I know in Jedi survivor one of the villains, Dagan Gara manifests an arm to wield a dual bladed lightsaber. for most of the game he fights one handed and it’s clear that in the final fight with him he’s projecting an illusion onto Cal. It’s not real and cal eventually overcomes that. I guess the other writers didn’t get that and thought it was real.
No, ScreenRant clearly doesn't understand what happens. Vader didn't literally grow limbs using the force, that was just an artistic representation, otherwise all the reader would see is the droids spontaneously combust.
@@tk-6967 so it is kind of like what happens in Jedi survivor only Jedi survivor was an illusion projected by dagan. I don’t know, I think people could have figured what Vader was doing with his stumps without the visual manifestation of limbs I mean he did it in clone wars the micro series to a techno union guy but this is comic book so I guess it makes more sense
@@nightking0130 I agree with you on this, I am just saying that that is the artistic choice they made and highlighted a possible explanation. However over-the-top the comics are, they are certainly not written by idiots who have no understanding of SW. I have read quite a few Canon comics and I think many of them are a fine addition to the SW universe and many can easily be true even to someone who dislikes Canon overall.
@@tk-6967 It's because the SW comics are written by IDW, so there was no "purge" when Disney took over.
To me, Star Wars concluded satisfactorily in 2005, to others, 1983. But all the stuff produced since 2015 has been SWINO.
Sadly, I’d go even earlier. Apart from a handful of decent moments across 30 years of noise, what has really been better than Empire Strikes Back?
@@VideoAmericanStyle Revenge of the Sith
@@theunknowncommenter725 While arguably the best overall work since the original trilogy, Revenge of the Sith is in no way superior to ESB. Its highlights are unfortunately diminished by the same issues - poor dialogue/acting, over-reliance on CGI sets, etc - that the other prequels suffer from.
@@VideoAmericanStyleReturn of the Jedi? As much as I I love ESB and it’s my fav Star Wars movie in the OT, you can’t deny that ROTJ had something to it
@@tigrytime658 for sure. Scenes like Jabba’s palace, the final duel, etc are wonderful - but there’s also a lot of stuff that already signaled steps in the wrong direction for the franchise (repeated Death Star plot, Ewoks, etc). For those reasons, I don’t think it is better than ESB, which is still the franchise peak (and that was over 40 years ago!).
darth Plaguis tried to prevemt people from dying. Annikin wanted to save the ones he loved from death. big issues that lead to the fall of Skywalker. Rey learns how to save from death everyones cool about that. I just realised this as I only watched TROS the once and forgot that bit in the film until now. Star Wars is propper dead now.
It's not well known but The Sopranos' universe also included force powers. But, similar to modern Star Wars, due to the limitations of the audience's imagination the writers were forced (heh heh) to physically manifest those powers in the shape of a baseball bat. True story.
Loved seeing you on the critical drinkers open bar! Been following you both for ages!
During the 3 second cut of the OT of Luke calling out to Leia I got literal goosebumps... I was laughing at the rest lmao
Yeah that part always puts me in awe. The rest not so much!
So.. what. can vader not force choke someone without an actual hand? Couldn't vader just force push all the attacking droids onto the wall? Does he need limbs to use the force in general?
As an edgy teen I came up with a really atipud force ides I'm legit shocked they haven't done yet.
The force Litch.
You become one with the force with light side force but instead of your body fading you use the dark side of the force to put your force ghost into a phisical body. Super edgy and I'm super surprised none of these 30 year old children writers haven't done it yet.
no doubt it will appear in some disney sanctioned comic/book soon
At this point Mace Windu will probably return. Fell miles down into a conveniently placed Bantha haystack.
Masterful critique. Watering down the meaning and essence of the force is my biggest gripe with the modern stories. Disney seems intent on tanking all of its IP.
Robot head: let's see how Disney Lucasfilm is destroying the star wars legacy now
Me: PLEASE STOP, STAR WARS IS ALREADY DEAD 😢😢😢😢
Force energy limbs....what's next? Magic powered zombie storm troopers???
It actually makes more sense in Harry Potter because the spells are actual phrases you say out loud, so it stands to reason that someone could create an entirely new spell. But with the Force you just... think really hard... Guess no one ever thought of Force Heal.
Just seeing a clip of the moped gang in Book of Boba Fett makes me wanna bury my head into sand like a fuckin ostrich.
I see robot head I click... it's a simple life
Maybe the Lucasfilm creative team could use the force to manifest brain cells
Remember when people said Filoni should run Lucasfilm? I'm gonna miss that one 😂
The Force has become the “Sonic Screwdriver” For the Star Wars galaxy.
Your videos crack me up bro, love the one with Rey shooting 3 tie fighters out of the air in 1 shot in TLJ 😂😂 'you would like it, you're better than Han Solo 😂😂 🇬🇧
It sounds like a Mortal Kombat fatality move, lol. A bad one.
Lol the magic hands bit 😅
I love the Magic Hands bit! I'm glad you re-used it.
It feels like they are trying to turn force users into sci-fi benders from avatar.
Force healing was in the old books, which are better than any of the later Trilogies. But it was a very different thing.
Yeah luke could do it to a degree on himself to heal from bad injuries. Once he puts himself into a force coma to wait out his ship drifting far from anyone.
These videos are so f****** funny AND truthful that I'm about to join the membership of this channel...fml 😂
It's a like they let a 3 year old loose on the Mona Lisa with markers, crayons and spray paints... and then she barfed on it.
Was thinking about this, and I I think what Disney Wars - and all recent iterations - is missing is that the Force was intrinsically tied with balance, specifically balance of the universe. In the original trilogy, it felt like the jedi were judicious in their force use, which implies that you shouldn't be altering the natural order without good reason...because it probably has consequences directly proportional to how much you "selfishly" change the flow of the laws of nature. This could explain why those on the Dark Side are more powerful that those on the Light Side because they have no regard for changing the natural order, doing whatever they want at the cost of their soul.
This has an interesting implication for Yoda lifting Luke's x-wing. By altering the natural laws to such an extent, Yoda knew he would have to pay some kind of price for it - his own death. But he also knew that it was a worthwhile trade in order to help Luke learn to trust the force and trust himself.
With this theory, a jedi could liberally use the force to assist his own reflexes and anticipation because that has more to do with just sensing the flow of the universe, not actively controlling it. But to do something like lifting a lightsaber into your hand would require significant reason - like if an ice monster were about to eat you. But you wouldn't do it just to look cool...unless you were on the dark side and didn't give a sh**.
But now it seems like nobody give a sh** about the natural order. They're force shoving and lifting and bringing people back from the brink of death without any regard for the consequences of their "unnatural" actions. Nor do the movies show any negative consequences for such disruptions of the balance. Perhaps this is a metaphor for our times.
Well Ahsoka was revived by infusing her with the power of a Force God that was kicking the bucket because she got stabbed with the only thing that can kill their species (later her brother dies to the Light Saber of Anakin). Ahsoka has the power of a Force God that bathed in the Knowledge Fountain thingamajig, and Sabine does more Force feats than herself.
The franchise's bar was lowered to PEGI +6 🤣
Ezra laughed at Sabine when she said Ahsoka was training her and then knowing she doesn't have the force he jumps to a ship 500 yards away did he at least say hold my sign that says I'm stupid
The books from the 90s had a lot more force powers. But the films and tv shows have to focus on what can be easily be displayed on screen.
It isnt the Force anymore
It is Disney Magic now
I thought that was evident from the Rise of Skywalker
The "force" is already broken
Cue the dancing mops!!!
IfvDisney put in as much effort and detail as Robot Head does with his videos, Disney might start coming out with movies that we can choke down again.
I’ll never understand how or why Pablo Hidalgo was ever given validity.
This video is just what I needed at the end of the day to make me feel like I'm not crazy when it comes to Disney Star Wars. Great stuff Robot Head!
Thing is, Force Healing has been around for ages, yet Disney does a piss poor job at explaining it with their own take on it. The EU on the other hand handles it pretty well.
What's especially sad is this knowledge was largely forgotten by Yoda's age. The Old Republic's Jedi seemed to have a far better grasp of the Force than their future followers ever imagined.
What Darth Vader could do: Force choke, force pull, force push and all of these with intense training for several decades.
Meanwhile, what random force users could do in Disney canon
Rey: Force healing, force teleportation of objects, force lightning, force pull, force push, force floating. (Minimal training)
Sabine: Force healing (a lightsaber wound), force levitation of Ezra, force pull (Without training).
Kylo Ren: Force pull, force push, force teleportation of objects, force stopping blaster shots (something Vader failed to do so against Han), force healing (unlike Rey, Kylo died right away after doing it once).
Ahsoka: Force pull, force push, force world between worlds. (With Anakin’s training but incomplete)
The funny part is that, while Anakin’s force skills are very limited (he couldn’t even do force lightning because his arms were chopped off), somehow we still feel that he really lived up to the “most powerful force user” status and find that his basic skills are so terrifying.
Meanwhile, whenever Disney characters used their newly-invented force powers, we feel like “Nah, that’s bullshit. No way they can do that.”
First of all, Vader did not fail to stop the bolts from Han, they literally did nothing to him, nor did he need decades of intense training to do this. Anakin was able to force choke, pull, push and many other things after less than 10 years of training. Kylo is pretty adept at force slow to be fair, but for Vader he can stop dozens of blaster bolts. Sabine lightly force pushed Ezra after he already had jumped, not levitation and she was healed in a medical centre, not by the force.
Has it ever occurred to them how many Jedis or Jedi trained people seem to exist post Order 66? Makes O66 almost a waste of time, and Obi Wan hiding out also completely unnecessary
Thank you RobotHead for another couple of minutes filled with an top notch entertainment!
Heyy, first! Love you Robot Head, you give the best Star Wars content out here now! The Obi-Wan of CZcams...
Cheers!
Honestly, i don't see this as a bad thing, Mr. Head. Maybe one day Lucasfilm will introduce a force ability to spin planets in reverse and travel back in time to prevent the travesties they've committed upon Star Wars. I'd be game for a force ret-con ability that gets rid of everything after Force Awakens.
No, it needs to wipe away everything Disney has done, including the crap that The Force Awakens was
@@joshmain1309 The Force Awakens created potential that future movies ruined. Example: Why does Rey, an orphan on a desert planet, have such mastery of the force that she can bet Kylo? What happened to her parents? All of these things could have been explained in future movies and thus explain things in Force Awakens...but alas, they went full Mary Sue instead.
@@hermaeusmora2945the force aWaKeNs was the draw to get you to watch their shit.
It was a new hope and empire strikes back crammed into one. It was trash that paved the way for all the progressive propaganda.
Mary sue was the plan all along! Progressive!
@hermaeusmora2945 true but why did Disney go with these new and unrecognizable characters when Lucas had already made the script and story for the real episodes 7, 8, and 9
@@joshmain1309 The best answer i've ever heard is that the reason Disney threw away Lucas' scripts and the Expanded Universe is so they could be free to tell the stories they want.
Luke in the sequels forgot how to grow balls by using the Force.
Disney taking over Star Wars is to fans as Obi-Wan's lightsaber is to Anakin's limbs.
The Force is "magic" without any defined limits. And woke Disney has taken advantage of that, to go woke go broke levels 😂😂
I don't think it was ever designed to really expand beyond the one family story. It's a SMALL story told on a HUGE canvas. And the more we add the THINNER it feels
I think it’s the opposite really, it’s too hyper focused on one family and the people directly around them. SWTOR was rather good, few issues here and there but nothing that couldn’t be reined in or fixed.
The real issue is you have children running it all and these people don’t know the difference between realistic and video game.
@@gbalfour9618 I don't understand what you're saying. You're saying you think it WASN'T designed that way? Or you think its badly designed?
@misterwtf7380 the issue is terrible writing and a lack of understanding about what made the originals good
@@gbalfour9618it's originally hyper focused on that family because all of the Jedi are supposed to be dead, thus few force users left. As a guest time viewer of EP 4, for all we knew they were the only ones. Han Solo's been all around the galaxy and never seen it. That's why the Skywalkers mattered.
Now, thanks to Disney, there are hundreds or even thousands of "destroyed" (read: retconned) Jedi all over the galaxy doing f all during the Rebellion. Who knew? They don't matter. None of them do because they didn't do anything. Nothing in Disney SW matters anymore because they decided to NOT make it about some special people. They hand out the force like Oprah gives out free self care products on her show. "You get the force! YOU get the force! Everybody gets the force, woo!"
It was about one family because they were all that mattered because no one else existed. Now we've learned everyone's survived, but still never mattered. Sums up everything Disney SW.
As to it being about one family, so what? For 90% of the SWOT, it's only about two guys with the same last name, and we don't know that for 50% of the time. They have nothing in common except legacy, which mirrors many father-son relationships. The third Skywalker receives one force phone call in the movies and otherwise shows no proclivity for i's use. The prequel trilogy is also about just one of those first two people. Omg, so much Skywalker... It's like saying the Godfather trilogy was constrained because it's only about the Corleone's and didn't go into the "universe" of other mob families.
That's why the eu exists. George allowed these stories to expand the large canvas, and your idea of making it thinner doesn't make sense. If anything, it enriches it. At least when compared to how disney does what you say, turning the galaxy smaller and smaller each time with each show.
What a pleasant surprise to wake up to. Love your stuff dude.
Ahsoka looks like ten year olds playing Star Wars in the backyard
Remember when Ahsoka wouldn't train Grogu because of his attachment to the Mandalorian?.... But let's forget all about that so Ahsoka can train Sabine despite her OBVIOUS attachment to Ezra....
OH SNAP!!!
That's because Grogu is a male
Did you forget this was after she ditched Sabine?
They didn't forget about that, Ahsoka was literally not training Sabine remember? The whole point was that they hadn't met for ages since Ahsoka refused to train her because she thought Sabine might turn to the dark side because of Mandalorian genocide thing.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 and that has what to do with what exactly? She was still training Sabine
I personally think it’s kinda cool Vader used his tags to grow force limbs. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Yeah, let's just ignore that when Luke cut his arm off we saw bunch of vires and other mechanical parts...
Sure, it might sound “cool” but from a storytelling perspective, but it leads to the Harry Potter problem: if there’s a sudden magical ‘fix’ for every obstacle, it lowers the stakes to virtually nothing and robs the story of any excitement.
@@VideoAmericanStyle ikr. When I heard "Fetus Deletus" to get rid of an Ginny's unwanted pregnancy, I was done with Harry Potter.
Quick fix for the limbs after every bit of Disney SW is retconed out of existence. The Darkside caused Vader to hallucinate that he grew his limbs back. It did this, as being whole again is what he desires, most and that small taste of something impossible will torment him and remind him of what he has lost further strengthening him in the darkside.
The bright red limbs are only shown in two panels, and (from how I interpreted it) it was a lot more symbolic of what the intentions of the Scourge are. If Vader were able to actually conjure up limbs, the very next panel wouldn't have been his limbless body on the floor :P
The article is outright wrong in many ways too. Vader is never on a "trip to Coruscant" in the comic. It outright shows them entering Vader's Fortress on Mustafar and killing the two Royal Guards at the bacta tank.
Star Wars makes A LOT of mistakes, but this Screenrant article is outright wrong in the information it's giving out
What do you expect from disney? George Lucas himself said that the force is supposed to represent a god without identifying any individual god so if you take someone who believes in some form of religion and has some respect for what people believe and replace him with a group of people who think that all gods and religions are a joke this is what you end up with: the force becomes a joke.
Nailed it 💯
The best thing is that the eu didn't actually break this rule.
Sure, it showcased supernatural force entities that were worshipped as gods, but it never actually explicitly states that they are ones, something that tcw absolutely fucked up with with the mortis "gods".
The various entities of the eu were seen as potential differences of the force, always there but never truly stated as real gods.
For all we know, they may just be an alien species that learned to live entirely off the force.
And that's what I love about the eu. It adds so much interesting stuff, but adds a level of ambiguity so that it doesn't actually overwrite the primary rules that George created. To a degree.
@@silverprimus321boi9The mortis gods and the wills of the force are a George Lucas idea....so yeah, so much for that bullshit argument ;)
Yeah no, draw power some individual letting you do it. I don't entirely believe that although Lucas did state. I will too differ that the force is jus an energy
Don't forget the Force is female now...because, uh...because, uh...because K. K. Kennedy said so.
In Empire, when Luke is being bombarded by objects that hurl toward him as he stands before Vader, the film always gave me the impression that it was Luke’s emotional turmoil and complete loss of focus/control that led to that event. In essence, that Luke was being attacked by his own inability to control The Force, and Vader was standing idly by watching it happen, not attacking him.
Today, as an adult, I still consider that to be what’s happening.
Pointing at an object while using the force could have easily been explained on Ahsoka. Simply say "Some Jedi found it easier to concentrate on an object while pointing at it while they were training, and they just continued to do so"
9:37 Those big movements are not needed, but they help the user focus the force, and maybe that's just how Ezra formed the habit of channeling the force. And Ezra was never fully trained. His training was cancelled after a few years, given Kanan died and Ezra stranded quickly after
The magic hands bit cracked me up!😂😂😂
1:23 that abrupt cut almost made fell off my chair xDD
everything you said is true...and it hurts. Loved seeing you on Open Bar btw!!
6:26
Mace: “I need the magic hands!”
Well, you’ve still got one intact hand. Just do it yourself
With all the Limb Regrowing going on in Star Wars now, I wish they’d let Luke regrow his spine.
The new powers create huge issues however I'm fine with the motions to illustrate the use of the force. It is not a Disney invention to begin with. It wasn't just used by Maul either, Yoda and Doku did so too (with physical exhaustion on top) when they fought and again that movie was directed by Lucas.
Disney's problem is that all of these Force abilities have already been introduced in the Expanded Universe. And controlling lightning in a storm, and Force healing, and transmitting physical objects and communicating hundreds of light years away, and teleportation, and even magic. And yes, the Force in general is magic. It's just that its source is a little different than real mana.
But Disney shoves it all in a pile, and it is not interesting to watch, but just boring.
The greatest danger of adding magic to any story is not what you do with it in your world building but what you DON'T do with it. There needs to be an explanation for both and it has to be consistent. Which, sadly is almost impossible.
i love your videos and agree with a ton of what you post. really look forward to all of your new videos as well. idk about this one though. probably better to stick to what shows up on screen. the comics have a lot of involvement, which has been the case since the late 80s. you left out a ton of stuff from this issue, which is easy to miss if you aren't actually keeping up with the comic series.
vader crushing the droids through the force without his limbs isn't even the questionable part about this issue btw lol
2:45
I mean, I magically learned how to use things like Lightning, Healing, Grip, etc. when I was a younger lad being a Jedi.
Of course, that was in video games and not in movies, but still. :P
Nailed it!!! Force-farce...Genius. I am not a critical fan or cinephile, but if certain things are just lazy in terms of writing and harm the logic of it all, I check out. It can be a random thing, or as in Disney-Star-Wars, exactly what you point out. Thank you!
4:45 I now can only imagine yoda singing "My Stick!" here.