Riven at Macworld Keynote 1998

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    Steve Jobs introduces Cyan co-founder Rand Miller who introduces Riven DVD for Apple's Macintosh at the MacWorld Expo Keynote in 1998. #myst25 kck.st/2EwUP33
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  • @tscheetsch
    @tscheetsch Před 6 lety +136

    As painful as it was to switch CDs every time you went to a different island, the art design and the symbolism of the five discs and those incredible sleeves made it feel so right.

    • @bionic_bat
      @bionic_bat Před rokem +3

      I still have mine. And will never sell it. Too many good memories

    • @ikwilgeenkanaalzeur
      @ikwilgeenkanaalzeur Před rokem +3

      Yeah I was very happy with the dvd version.

    • @sa3270
      @sa3270 Před měsícem

      It was worth it!

  • @DarkGharren
    @DarkGharren Před 3 lety +94

    Me, when I first saw Riven: wow, this looks photorealistic.
    Me, in 2021: wow, this looks photorealistic.

    • @yannatoko9898
      @yannatoko9898 Před 2 lety +3

      Not really.

    • @veru6907
      @veru6907 Před 2 lety +4

      @@snoosri nah its just very realistic

    • @tricityterror
      @tricityterror Před rokem +2

      I think that it just had a distinctive art style and perspective that holds up to time. It's Art Vs graphics

    • @thdenwheja756
      @thdenwheja756 Před rokem +1

      I love them, but having played it recently on a better monitor than I had in the late 90s, I think the compression they talked about improving here is still a really big problem. I hope we get a remaster or remake soon a la realMyst or Myst VR.

    • @MyNextShotWontMiss
      @MyNextShotWontMiss Před rokem

      @@thdenwheja756 Did you know they made a game a few years ago and are working on another right now?

  • @JosephPage
    @JosephPage Před 6 lety +122

    ATRUS SHAKING HANDS WITH STEVE JOBS, WHAAAAT

  • @alexissercho
    @alexissercho Před 4 lety +82

    Riven still the best game ever. 2020.

    • @keeperofthereign
      @keeperofthereign Před 2 lety +1

      Masterpice, but way too hard.

    • @purefoldnz3070
      @purefoldnz3070 Před měsícem

      and now its coming back.

    • @DromeG60
      @DromeG60 Před 25 dny +2

      @@purefoldnz3070 ah, a fellow CZcamsr on the new Riven pre-release binge

    • @purefoldnz3070
      @purefoldnz3070 Před 25 dny

      @@DromeG60 the algorithm knows me well haha

  • @Jane-lj2cv
    @Jane-lj2cv Před 6 lety +68

    Rand really is a lovely, modest man.

  • @PlebeianGoth
    @PlebeianGoth Před 5 lety +20

    *Me, 20 years in the future* HOLY CRAP RIVEN WAS ON DVD IN 98 AND NO ONE TOLD ME!?

    • @recoveringsoul755
      @recoveringsoul755 Před 2 lety

      I left the IT world in 92 and wasn't at this meeting. Jobs came to our company many times prior to that. Once I was out of the industry I played Myst, but didn't stay up to date on technology.

  • @48some
    @48some Před rokem +5

    So glad they announced 2 hours ago the Remake of Riven!

  • @RetroToadstool
    @RetroToadstool Před 6 lety +35

    Rand is a legend!

  • @RogerCRocha
    @RogerCRocha Před 6 lety +26

    Congratulations to Rand on an excellent presentation. I can only imagine how nervous the situation was. And he did great.

  • @Gojoseon
    @Gojoseon Před 3 lety +11

    Wow! I never saw this video before-had no idea Rand Miller was at this conference or that Riven was so Mac-involved. Cool bit of history!

    • @Dogeathotdog1
      @Dogeathotdog1 Před 2 lety +1

      Myst was originally made using a program called hypercard which was a Mac exclusive. Broderbund software handled the PC conversion. The differences between the PC and Mac version are slight but everything to a perfectionist such as Rand Miller.
      Mac version is the original and will always be superior even if the PC port was near perfect.

    • @recoveringsoul755
      @recoveringsoul755 Před 2 lety +2

      I played the original Myst on a Mac, my PC friend said the screen transitions were smoother on the Mac

  • @Adrot
    @Adrot Před 6 lety +31

    I see that Rand was still trying to stay to his policy of "Show, don't tell" for the most of it. Those guys would later on scramble their heads on the puzzles they were barely introduced to like no tomorrow.

  • @curtissplan352
    @curtissplan352 Před 6 lety +26

    My original 5 CD set of Riven is within comfortable distance as of playing this video. I assure you, it will stay there as a treasured item to this amazing game. Thank you for sharing this clip!

  • @JohnKooz
    @JohnKooz Před 2 lety +4

    I've seen numerous interviews/documentaries with Rand Miller (usually a "looking back" at his games, so he is much older), and seeing him this young is amusing. I really like the guy. He's an amazing developer who introduced the world to new levels of reality in gaming. Plus, he just always seems so humble.

  • @darthzounds4889
    @darthzounds4889 Před 3 lety +7

    Alternate title idea: Atrus Presents a TED Talk.

  • @jlow532
    @jlow532 Před 6 lety +8

    "Lastly today...Riven" freaking epic!!!!!!

  • @AlexisDarkgiver
    @AlexisDarkgiver Před rokem +5

    And now they have Obduction, they're working Firmament, they're making everything at least VR compatible. We've moved so far from CD-Roms and DVD-Roms... It's fantastic and the Myst games still look so phenomenal. Thank you Cyan for making these masterpieces, and continuing to make more. You innovated the world of gaming, and changed my life. I couldn't imagine my life without Cyan or the Myst games. I'll always be excited to see whats next.

  • @purefoldnz3070
    @purefoldnz3070 Před měsícem

    I got stuck in this game as a kid and just endlessly wandered and pushed buttons and just enjoyed that experience.

  • @ZeitdiebX
    @ZeitdiebX Před 4 lety +7

    Who wants to go back to the wondrous games and vibes of those times? And Rand used to be a legitimate stand up comedian.

    • @woulfhound
      @woulfhound Před 7 měsíci

      It was a time of great experimentation in video games but it also really sucked back then because you didn't have resources like Unreal Engine or CZcams tutorials to learn from and build on.

  • @AmauryJacquot
    @AmauryJacquot Před 4 lety +3

    Rand, you did an excellent job there !

  • @jal2550
    @jal2550 Před 2 lety +1

    Loved Myst, Riven, etc! Rand's a legend, how cool he got to meet another legend. Look how young and healthy Steve was.....

  • @cher8644
    @cher8644 Před 2 lety +2

    2021 and Riven still has yet to be bested.
    I'm having a blast though trying to find it's equal. Here's hoping on Firmament.

  • @h4x0y
    @h4x0y Před 6 lety +16

    Damn it, just bought this video from the company that filmed this because this keynote wasn’t on youtube before xD

  • @lfrohling
    @lfrohling Před 5 lety +5

    Atrus on stage - being true to himself and the spirit of Myst games :))

  • @BluespecDigitalMedia
    @BluespecDigitalMedia Před 2 lety

    I've got a lot of love for MYST and RIVEN. Many hours wasted. Many good memories x

  • @kailee87
    @kailee87 Před 2 lety +3

    damn i miss the 90s, everything was better

  • @fCauneau
    @fCauneau Před 6 lety +1

    Surely the opus that made video game to enter definitively into the world of Art. Pure Art.

  • @sa3270
    @sa3270 Před měsícem

    5:18 That shadow that looks like a person always freaked me out. I always wondered if that was deliberate or if it just happened that way.

  • @Jushwa
    @Jushwa Před 2 lety +3

    Just wanted to say thanks for passing these legendary moments on.

  • @SchlossRitter
    @SchlossRitter Před 6 lety +11

    I forgot Jobs had that beard for a while, and it looks even longer than Rand's at the time heh.

    • @cher8644
      @cher8644 Před 2 lety

      It says something I guess that when initially confronted with this version of genius, my mind defaults to let's render them a:
      hot. soapy. tub.

  • @Doughboy123x
    @Doughboy123x Před 6 lety +3

    Whoa! That must have been a great honor!

  • @alexissercho
    @alexissercho Před 6 lety +2

    Riven, Best game ever!

  • @Goland454
    @Goland454 Před 6 lety +2

    This is amazing. So awesome you got to meet Steve Jobs. Macintosh had some of the best games for quite a few years!~!

  • @danielrazulay
    @danielrazulay Před 3 lety +2

    Back when miller was as old as I am now :o

  • @lorenzrosenthal119
    @lorenzrosenthal119 Před 2 lety +1

    that cutscene probably took 100 years to rendern back then

  • @yank3656
    @yank3656 Před 6 lety +1

    thanks for sharing Cyan

  • @MichiMilchmelker
    @MichiMilchmelker Před 4 lety +1

    that was really blasting away presentation all this great graphics and that mac´s are piece of art in sound, graphics and handling. at that time it was just blasting away ... today at apple : we have a dark mode and me "ok".

  • @ashtoniamelvonious
    @ashtoniamelvonious Před rokem

    I wish I could meet Rand and Robyn and just tell them thank you so much.

  • @krowdrah-official
    @krowdrah-official Před 2 lety

    Such a testament to creativity.

  • @JurisKankalis
    @JurisKankalis Před rokem

    Couple of days ago now in October 2022 I saw a video from an australian youtuber speaking of how he recommended playing Riven again in 2022 (yes, there are videos on youtube made in 2022 about this game). I wrote some comment - and the algorythm after couple of days brought me this video. For once, I'm thankful to the algorythm. Greetings from Latvia. What a great game this was. Realism far, far above anything else of the time.

  • @TheRandomView
    @TheRandomView Před měsícem

    ...and soon in VR!!!

  • @sawilliams
    @sawilliams Před 3 lety

    Such a cool time it was...

  • @Antphoneigh
    @Antphoneigh Před 5 lety

    OMG my favourite game and tech company!

  • @crlorentzen
    @crlorentzen Před 6 lety +7

    Did no one listen to this before uploading? Can we get a Mono channel marked as mono, or duplicated to the left channel!?!??

    • @crlorentzen
      @crlorentzen Před 6 lety +6

      I hope Cyan doesn't mind, but here is my fixed version: czcams.com/video/VxIrinhDPa0/video.html audio is dual-mono (fix the right only speaker issue, less headaches) and amplified to peak at -3db (instead of -9.9dB, less adjusting your speaker volume)

    • @olivedotcom
      @olivedotcom Před 3 lety

      @@crlorentzen thank you

  • @isaacandersen1
    @isaacandersen1 Před 3 lety

    I never saw this and It's made me want to go back to all the macworld keynotes and see what other guest appearances there are.

  • @trapez77
    @trapez77 Před rokem

    Rand is so cool

  • @_BirdOfGoodOmen
    @_BirdOfGoodOmen Před 4 lety

    The big surprise for me was games were coming out in DVD in *1998!*

  • @3rdaxis649
    @3rdaxis649 Před 4 lety +1

    Wish Rand would render out a HD version of the game. I would buy it in a hot minute.

    • @kingx101
      @kingx101 Před 3 lety

      Starry Expanse has you covered

    • @3rdaxis649
      @3rdaxis649 Před 3 lety

      @@kingx101 What do you mean?

  • @AaronGwynaireGameDev
    @AaronGwynaireGameDev Před 2 lety

    love this video :)

  • @Ephisus
    @Ephisus Před 5 lety

    Great days.

  • @GCAT01Living
    @GCAT01Living Před 6 lety +32

    OMG, I owned the 5-CD set and it was TORTURE!

    • @oxydator
      @oxydator Před 6 lety +3

      If you still have the CDs, you can copy the data to your device and play Riven on ScummVM. This software runs on many different platforms like Windows, macOS, Android, iOS, Linux, Playstation to only name a few and supports dozens of old adventure games.
      BTW, ScummVM also supports two more Cyan titles: The Manhole and Myst.

    • @SchlossRitter
      @SchlossRitter Před 6 lety +4

      Phantasmagoria was worse at seven discs! Thankfully compression algorithms improved enough after that to bring its sequel and Gabriel Knight 2 down to five each iirc.

    • @jlow532
      @jlow532 Před 6 lety +7

      lol loved that 5 CD stuff. Just added to the epic quality to the game. "WHAATTT? this game is so huge they need 5 CDs???" NOthing like Riven ever. Our entire family was sucked into Riven. Even my Mom who never EVER plays games was into it. Unreal stuff Riven. Greatest of all time.

    • @foodandart5808
      @foodandart5808 Před 5 lety

      If you used Adaptec Toast and copied then mounted ALL 5 disks on the desktop, it was seamless and quick! I still have an install of Snow Leopard that contains all my Myst games - RivenX is totally playable today.

    • @afoose
      @afoose Před 3 lety +2

      Now I play through riven on my phone

  • @MusicandGame23
    @MusicandGame23 Před 3 lety +1

    Riven still need remake

  • @darksidegirl
    @darksidegirl Před 6 lety

    This is epic!

  • @itskittyme
    @itskittyme Před 3 lety

    I used to go back and forth on the carts because i loved swapping the discs,
    in my defense, I was only 5

  • @TNJX
    @TNJX Před 6 lety +10

    A little less productive but a hell of a lot more inspired!

    • @jlow532
      @jlow532 Před 6 lety +1

      amen on that 100%

  • @fabianfabian3982
    @fabianfabian3982 Před 2 lety

    An excellent game

  • @jebwu8648
    @jebwu8648 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It's truly special to see Steve Jobs welcome Rand Miller. The way Rand was presented you feel like they are equals.

  • @michaelh4227
    @michaelh4227 Před 2 lety

    Games used to be so simple back then.

  • @CoolKD2005
    @CoolKD2005 Před 4 lety

    I have only seen my mum play two computer games in my life.(She is 64 now) The first Broken Sword and Riven

  • @gameworkerty
    @gameworkerty Před 24 dny

    can't hear out of my right ear so I assume it went well

  • @ellicooper2323
    @ellicooper2323 Před rokem

    Must and riven are the only games I’ve played. No other game has grabbed me the same way. I miss them so much. Are they saying they will be available to use on our more “modern” computers? I sincerely hope so.

  • @andthe2380
    @andthe2380 Před 5 lety

    Pretty cool! When does that game come out? :P I've already pledged my tier for your Kickstarter for Firmament, like I did Obduction! Keep making awesome {very over used word nowadays but it absolutely applies here} games for us all! Thanks so much Cyan! :)

  • @pedazodeboludo
    @pedazodeboludo Před 2 lety

    My left ear feels lonely.

  • @the_real_foamidable
    @the_real_foamidable Před 2 lety +1

    Not one second wasted on this game. It took me a while to complete though. When, did you say, the real-time version comes out again :-) ?

  • @happypig1
    @happypig1 Před 6 lety

    I'm looking forward to the Codeweavers port on Gog, because y'know... this Mac game is only on Windows right now.

    • @StevenS757
      @StevenS757 Před 6 lety +1

      They are making a Mac port for the 25th Anniversary

    • @oxydator
      @oxydator Před 6 lety

      Myst and Riven (plus The Manhole and dozens of other old adventure games) can be played on most platforms thanks to ScummVM. I have Riven and Myst Masterpiece installed on my phone right now :)

  • @cosmosofinfinity
    @cosmosofinfinity Před rokem +3

    And Mac STILL has barely any games made for it. Managed to get Resident Evil: Village on it, and it still has problems
    Love the natural, authentic presentation. These days, people on stage at E3 and such always seem too forced and artificial

  • @internetsurvivor
    @internetsurvivor Před 2 lety

    I thought my left speaker died at first

  • @Luke18_13
    @Luke18_13 Před 3 lety

    Mystifying. 😎

  • @ben-rosfeld
    @ben-rosfeld Před 6 lety +3

    I cannot not see him as Atrus

  • @hanniffydinn6019
    @hanniffydinn6019 Před 6 lety +20

    Irony : macs don't have DVDs anymore !!! 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ShadowXloner
      @ShadowXloner Před 6 lety

      Clarify please, as far as I'm aware all computers these days support dvds.

    • @hanniffydinn6019
      @hanniffydinn6019 Před 6 lety

      ShadowXloner er, no modern Apple Mac you can buy has a DVD anymore!!!!!! Go and see, Apple famously were first to remove them. I just brought a msi gaming laptop, even that doesn't have a built in optical drive!!!! Infact I've not even brought a DVD/blueray in what seems like decades!
      Infact you can download MYST from the Apple Store, to your iPad. Even their new game obduction is download only.
      Young people don't buy discs, they download and stream.

    • @BatteryDie
      @BatteryDie Před 5 lety +1

      ^ Then buy $20 disc reader portable usb. It's simple. Official Apple driver supports them. And why did Cyan sold disc of myst 25th anniversary in 2018? I bought disc and download both too. I think you missed news that actually, Cyan already sold disc version of Obduction in 2016 too.

  • @ChaoThing
    @ChaoThing Před 3 lety +1

    When will someone attempt to re-create something like this? Developers are afraid to even try, even with modern tech?

  • @trapez77
    @trapez77 Před rokem

    Is the Mac version the definitive way to play riven?

  • @babasemka
    @babasemka Před 6 lety +1

    Love Rand, Myst and all that jazz, but fuck Apple, man...

  • @simonRTJ
    @simonRTJ Před 3 lety +1

    softimage running on SGI machines.

  • @JollyJoel
    @JollyJoel Před 6 lety

    wow wtf?

  • @monsieurouxx
    @monsieurouxx Před rokem

    It makes me sad to think how the Cyan team is made of artists who don't compromise on their vision, while it would have taken Jobs 0.000001ms to dump them into a bin the second Riven would have stopped to be profitable for him (financially or prestige-wise). Thank God it didn't come to that!

  • @thomasstephens9317
    @thomasstephens9317 Před 3 lety

    it's sad to what apple has become

  • @dreadcannibal3395
    @dreadcannibal3395 Před 2 lety

    I was the 666th like DX

  • @catseye10000
    @catseye10000 Před 6 lety +2

    to bad mac's suck now