I ordered the Quantum 3 edge mid wheel drive on Motability, it had to go back, it was no good in my village, every little crack it threw the wheels off, on one pavement It was so hard to control, it was useless on Kerb climbing, nice looking chair, but not for village life. It’s so hard choosing right, I’m now looking on the rear wheel drive with kerb climber ranges, still not sure what is best. Great review and good to see a chair on different ground, we need more like this. Thank you 🙏
Hello Christina, thank you for getting touch and I'm so glad you appreciated the video. Tackling different terrain or uneven surfaces is a constant challenge. I will attempt to do a video in the near future which may help you with your decision. In the meantime if you require any further information you can always contact me at the CMS office, link to the website/details are in the video description. Thank you 🙂
A long time ago I used the Invacare Storm Series rear wheel for about 10 years and never got stuck as much as I did with the Quantum mid wheel in only a few years. The Quantum chair is complete garbage for wheelchair users who want to leave their house even for a stroll in a city neighborhood. Getting it and keeping it was one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made. I'm getting a new one now and will definitely go back to the Storm Invacare.
My new Q700M will be delivered to me in 3 days, I looked at the TDX and it ended up being a big no from me. All I really saw was one tire is better than the other in this video. I saw the TDX's drive wheel spinning and losing traction on an uneven surface at one point, the Q500 didn't lose a beat at the same point. This just seemed to be a tire tread difference, it's helpful if I want to go slogging in the mud, which I won't haha. I always appreciate people doing testing videos on chairs, thank you.
The spider trac is technically only on the Q700m range. It just called 6 wheel suspension on the Q300m, Q400m & Q500m. This is what it says on the Sunrise medical website. I had the old version of the invacare and I really hated the suspension where as my spider trac on Q700m is excellent on steep bus and train ramps. Watching this I am seeing how my Q700m is better than this Q500m as my chair would have got through that.
Hello Sarah, Thank you so much for your comment. You're right in saying that the Q700M is the only chair that has the new Spider Trac 2.0 however the other chairs you mentioned still have a version of the Spider Trac, just not as advanced. The name Spider Trac purely relates to how the castor arms and main drive wheel articulate, the different versions relates to how they achieve that articulation. The reason they describe it as 6 wheel suspension instead of Spider Trac 1.0 is because naturally it doesn't sound quite as good and to save confusion between the models. Like you said the Q700 series is a large financial step up therefore it's important for Sunrise Medical to highlight the reasons why there is such a jump. We will try and provide a video to demonstrate this and hopefully clear things up. Thanks again, CMS
@@clinicalmobilitysolutions2131 Interesting! I find it all very confusing tbh as be ideal if I could find a cheaper chair that I enjoy using and is just as functional as in 4 years time will need a new one according to manual. lol I can't currently transport my chair in a car as soooo heavy. Only time I tried the 500m was when my 700m needed repairs and I hated it but hard to truly tell when the 500m wasn't customised for me 😒
Tire tread, for appearance sake, gives the Quickie no chance to compete with the Invacare in such terrain. Why in the mud with such expensive machinery where both manufactures would dare not recommend? Look at off-road power wheelchairs, but remember water and electricity don't mix and they have limits too for maximum life wo costly repairs. Thank God we are provided PWC's to accommodate our individual needs and live life to the fullest. Bad example CMS - comparing two puny mid-wheel-drive (worst off-road and void warranties) PWC's for an audience that can't walk away when stuck in the mud!
Hello William, thank you for your comment however this video was not to demonstrate the chairs capabilities but to identify their weaknesses and understand their limitations. You're completely right in saying that they are not designed for off-road use but that doesn't prevent people from doing so nor does it stop a dealer from selling them for that purpose. Therefore hopefully from this example it will encourage people to be a little more aware of where they're taking their chairs and if they feel that they are tackling more challenging terrain then this video only highlights the importance of getting the right equipment for the job. I will be doing a video in the future of actual off-road/all-terrain options that hopefully you'll enjoy and agree with. Once again, thank you for getting in touch. CMS
@@clinicalmobilitysolutions2131 We live out in the boondocks on a farm so your video is very helpful in that it shows the terrain just as it would be for us in our rural life ... my son loves to be outdoors so having an idea of how chairs handle in the grassy hilly area is VERY helpful in deciding which chair will best suit his needs, we are currently shopping chairs :) Thank you for your video !!!
@@AcRazy88 Thank you so much for getting in touch Angela, I'm so glad the videos helpful. Please let us know how you get on in the chair search and feel free to contact us again if you need any further information
I would recmend q 500 power chair lot power for in door use wish some one come out put it right.. I have mobility poor chair some get killed die use use this power chair I had it be made if some handcare come out put right can not see do this on save for disabled man to use chair made for me not knowing it was so difficult to to lot luck handling it o god you do
It may be the better mid wheel drive chair but if you want to go off road on a regular basis you definitely need FWD or RWD, they both are far superior for off-road!
Thanks for getting in touch Michael! Depending on how severe the terrain is, I would say that a mid-wheel drive chair would be better. The only time they get stuck is when the castors are unable to climb certain obstacles. Hope this helps
You gotta do onboard programming with the q500 give it more torque and speed that's one thing sunrise has over invacare is they're options and customizable perimeters sunrise honestly makes real good wheelchairs some of the best wheelchairs out there
Hello Gabe, thank you for getting in touch. You're certainly right, Sunrise Medical do have the ability to programme and tweak the chairs performance parameters but so do most powerchairs. Any prescriptive chair will have individual programming capabilities, they just have different software to do it. I will do another video soon with the Q500M in a better setup which will hopefully allow it to perform a little better. Sorry for the delay but thank you for getting in touch.
Im looking for a chair that is going to give me the potential to do great off road/muddy walks with my assistance dog and fit in my bungalow. I'm looking at the Q300 or TDX nb, which do you suggest?
Hi Dean, thank you for your comment. Most portable ramps shouldn't be an issue for either of the chairs, the only factors to consider are the gradient and weight limit of the ramp. Hope this helps
what about the TDX sp on a city sidewalk. clunk, CLUNK, clunk or does it go over with barely a ripple. I have been researching Invacare Power Wheelchairs for use on city sidewalks, crossing over at a stoplight - not any outdoor use.
Thanks so much for the comment. Yes you're right that will also be a very useful video to do and it's something we will be completing hopefully in the near future!
@@clinicalmobilitysolutions2131 you can also look in to Ziesel chairs, one of my favorite track wheelchair. Ziesel is lot better than American track chair; faster, heavy duty, more power.
when the wheels are muddy I normally wait for the mud to dry out first so that you can brush most of it off. Then I would use a spray normally used for mountain bikes but it works really well on any powered/manual chair. Thanks for the comments
I ordered the Quantum 3 edge mid wheel drive on Motability, it had to go back, it was no good in my village, every little crack it threw the wheels off, on one pavement It was so hard to control, it was useless on Kerb climbing, nice looking chair, but not for village life. It’s so hard choosing right, I’m now looking on the rear wheel drive with kerb climber ranges, still not sure what is best. Great review and good to see a chair on different ground, we need more like this. Thank you 🙏
Hello Christina, thank you for getting touch and I'm so glad you appreciated the video. Tackling different terrain or uneven surfaces is a constant challenge. I will attempt to do a video in the near future which may help you with your decision. In the meantime if you require any further information you can always contact me at the CMS office, link to the website/details are in the video description. Thank you 🙂
A long time ago I used the Invacare Storm Series rear wheel for about 10 years and never got stuck as much as I did with the Quantum mid wheel in only a few years. The Quantum chair is complete garbage for wheelchair users who want to leave their house even for a stroll in a city neighborhood. Getting it and keeping it was one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made. I'm getting a new one now and will definitely go back to the Storm Invacare.
What chair did you end up going with in the end?
My new Q700M will be delivered to me in 3 days, I looked at the TDX and it ended up being a big no from me.
All I really saw was one tire is better than the other in this video. I saw the TDX's drive wheel spinning and losing traction on an uneven surface at one point, the Q500 didn't lose a beat at the same point. This just seemed to be a tire tread difference, it's helpful if I want to go slogging in the mud, which I won't haha. I always appreciate people doing testing videos on chairs, thank you.
I have qm700 up do it bater 😄👍💪
Wheels with treads are also helpful when you need to climb a curb.
The spider trac is technically only on the Q700m range. It just called 6 wheel suspension on the Q300m, Q400m & Q500m. This is what it says on the Sunrise medical website.
I had the old version of the invacare and I really hated the suspension where as my spider trac on Q700m is excellent on steep bus and train ramps.
Watching this I am seeing how my Q700m is better than this Q500m as my chair would have got through that.
Hello Sarah,
Thank you so much for your comment. You're right in saying that the Q700M is the only chair that has the new Spider Trac 2.0 however the other chairs you mentioned still have a version of the Spider Trac, just not as advanced. The name Spider Trac purely relates to how the castor arms and main drive wheel articulate, the different versions relates to how they achieve that articulation. The reason they describe it as 6 wheel suspension instead of Spider Trac 1.0 is because naturally it doesn't sound quite as good and to save confusion between the models. Like you said the Q700 series is a large financial step up therefore it's important for Sunrise Medical to highlight the reasons why there is such a jump. We will try and provide a video to demonstrate this and hopefully clear things up.
Thanks again, CMS
I love my qm700 spider track
@@clinicalmobilitysolutions2131 Interesting! I find it all very confusing tbh as be ideal if I could find a cheaper chair that I enjoy using and is just as functional as in 4 years time will need a new one according to manual. lol I can't currently transport my chair in a car as soooo heavy. Only time I tried the 500m was when my 700m needed repairs and I hated it but hard to truly tell when the 500m wasn't customised for me 😒
@@user-xb9yn1rf9yCan your Q700m climb up and down kerb easily?
Tire tread, for appearance sake, gives the Quickie no chance to compete with the Invacare in such terrain. Why in the mud with such expensive machinery where both manufactures would dare not recommend? Look at off-road power wheelchairs, but remember water and electricity don't mix and they have limits too for maximum life wo costly repairs. Thank God we are provided PWC's to accommodate our individual needs and live life to the fullest.
Bad example CMS - comparing two puny mid-wheel-drive (worst off-road and void warranties) PWC's for an audience that can't walk away when stuck in the mud!
Hello William, thank you for your comment however this video was not to demonstrate the chairs capabilities but to identify their weaknesses and understand their limitations. You're completely right in saying that they are not designed for off-road use but that doesn't prevent people from doing so nor does it stop a dealer from selling them for that purpose. Therefore hopefully from this example it will encourage people to be a little more aware of where they're taking their chairs and if they feel that they are tackling more challenging terrain then this video only highlights the importance of getting the right equipment for the job. I will be doing a video in the future of actual off-road/all-terrain options that hopefully you'll enjoy and agree with. Once again, thank you for getting in touch. CMS
@@clinicalmobilitysolutions2131 We live out in the boondocks on a farm so your video is very helpful in that it shows the terrain just as it would be for us in our rural life ... my son loves to be outdoors so having an idea of how chairs handle in the grassy hilly area is VERY helpful in deciding which chair will best suit his needs, we are currently shopping chairs :) Thank you for your video !!!
@@AcRazy88 Thank you so much for getting in touch Angela, I'm so glad the videos helpful. Please let us know how you get on in the chair search and feel free to contact us again if you need any further information
@@AcRazy88 q500m hard drive wish come out to my home put it right
I would recmend q 500 power chair lot power for in door use wish some one come out put it right.. I have mobility poor chair some get killed die use use this power chair I had it be made if some handcare come out put right can not see do this on save for disabled man to use chair made for me not knowing it was so difficult to to lot luck handling it o god you do
It may be the better mid wheel drive chair but if you want to go off road on a regular basis you definitely need FWD or RWD, they both are far superior for off-road!
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Will add it to the list! Thank you for getting in touch
I have a salsa r which I use off Rd by river would the tdx be better for it
Thanks for getting in touch Michael! Depending on how severe the terrain is, I would say that a mid-wheel drive chair would be better. The only time they get stuck is when the castors are unable to climb certain obstacles. Hope this helps
You gotta do onboard programming with the q500 give it more torque and speed that's one thing sunrise has over invacare is they're options and customizable perimeters sunrise honestly makes real good wheelchairs some of the best wheelchairs out there
Hello Gabe, thank you for getting in touch. You're certainly right, Sunrise Medical do have the ability to programme and tweak the chairs performance parameters but so do most powerchairs. Any prescriptive chair will have individual programming capabilities, they just have different software to do it. I will do another video soon with the Q500M in a better setup which will hopefully allow it to perform a little better. Sorry for the delay but thank you for getting in touch.
Im looking for a chair that is going to give me the potential to do great off road/muddy walks with my assistance dog and fit in my bungalow. I'm looking at the Q300 or TDX nb, which do you suggest?
@@ms100acrewood definitely q300 screw invacare
@@ms100acrewood Thank you for getting in touch! We have just responded to your email, hopefully hear from you soon
I thought you were going to tip them both over on that uneven ground
Haha not quite, maybe we should push them even harder......! Thank you for getting in touch
Hi what are these chairs like going up portable ramps?
Hi Dean, thank you for your comment. Most portable ramps shouldn't be an issue for either of the chairs, the only factors to consider are the gradient and weight limit of the ramp. Hope this helps
what about the TDX sp on a city sidewalk. clunk, CLUNK, clunk or does it go over with barely a ripple. I have been researching Invacare Power Wheelchairs for use on city sidewalks, crossing over at a stoplight - not any outdoor use.
Thanks so much for the comment. Yes you're right that will also be a very useful video to do and it's something we will be completing hopefully in the near future!
try magic mobility frontier V6 or V8
Good suggestion and I have done just that! Check out the video I did on the X8, thanks for getting in touch
@@clinicalmobilitysolutions2131 you can also look in to Ziesel chairs, one of my favorite track wheelchair. Ziesel is lot better than American track chair; faster, heavy duty, more power.
How would you clean the wheels
when the wheels are muddy I normally wait for the mud to dry out first so that you can brush most of it off. Then I would use a spray normally used for mountain bikes but it works really well on any powered/manual chair. Thanks for the comments
We want q700mup😃👍❤
Were is video 😁🤪