Why Thorfinn Stands Out From Other Protagonists

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  • čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
  • Shonen Manga is one of the most popular genres of manga there is. Generally, Shonen Manga is action oriented and frequently comes with supernatural powers; such as the Devil Fruit of One Piece, Ki or Energy of Dragon Ball, and Ninjutsu of Naruto. Therefore many of the most popular manga and anime in the world are focused on characters that fight their way to achieving their dream. Vinland Saga, by contrast, focuses on Thorfinn. A man without any special powers who realizes the error in using his fists to resolve his problems. Vinland Saga is based in Viking controlled England and Denmark during a very turbulent time in history where kings Sweyn and Canute are trying to unify the nations under one power. How did Makoto Yukimura write a character that breaks free from the endless cycle of violence in such a time? Come along with me as I analyze this incredible story and find out how.
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    0:00 Intro
    4:24 Thorfinn and Einar
    12:30 What is Vinland Saga?
    14:34 Thorfinn's Childhood
    23:32 True Warrior
    29:42 Thorfinn and Askeladd
    41:42 Race against Thorkell
    51:37 Canute and Ragnar
    1:00:01 Mutiny
    1:05:03 What is Love?
    1:09:51 Thorfinn vs. Thorkell
    1:14:28 Canute's Plan
    1:20:27 Thorfinn vs. Askeladd
    1:26:54 Canute vs. Sweyn
    1:36:02 Join the Patreon (pls)
    1:37:07 Slave Thorfinn
    1:47:11 An Empty Man
    1:53:00 The Dream
    2:00:10 Three Years Later
    2:03:07 A Trip to Jelling
    2:10:22 Gardar's Assault
    2:16:00 Why Thorfinn is Special
    2:21:27 Thorfinn vs. Snake
    2:27:30 The First Resort
    2:30:02 Ketil's Rage
    2:33:09 The Meaning of Scars
    2:35:02 Vinland
    2:41:48 Thorfinn's Resolve
    2:45:55 Thorfinn vs. Canute
    2:53:05 Why Vinland Saga Stands Out
    2:59:10 Outro
    #vinlandsaga #thorfinn #anime #manga #makotoyukimura
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  • @CaptainMack
    @CaptainMack  Před rokem +344

    Thanks for watching, like the video if you liked it. Hit up the Patreon if you wanna support ya boi. If you want more, watch my Chainsaw Man analysis! czcams.com/video/5bifn15-BnI/video.html

    • @SOLO.DANDELION
      @SOLO.DANDELION Před rokem +4

      This was a great video and really fun too, I feel the need to tell you about D. Gray-Man just a manga that deserves some love and attention

    • @jakecaswell7364
      @jakecaswell7364 Před rokem +2

      OKAY, since l like how you did a great job with this video, I am going to let that statement at 7:28 slide, still excellent work.

    • @JordanSmith-og3yj
      @JordanSmith-og3yj Před rokem +2

      ​@@SOLO.DANDELION 9

    • @JordanSmith-og3yj
      @JordanSmith-og3yj Před rokem +1

      0

    • @milton_millyrok
      @milton_millyrok Před rokem +1

      Video idea. I think it would be interesting to compare the ideologies of Canute and Erin from AOT

  • @stuckerfan2563
    @stuckerfan2563 Před rokem +963

    Thorfinn's speech and saying that he has no enemies is still one of my most favorite moments in all of manga

  • @kebbobebop
    @kebbobebop Před 9 měsíci +254

    People who complain about thorfinn not being a murderous person in the second season are just missing the entire point.

    • @sensufr219
      @sensufr219 Před 3 měsíci +15

      Like they didn’t even watch the entire first season

    • @grimm-gh2wr
      @grimm-gh2wr Před 3 měsíci +16

      The exact same people didn't understand the ending of season 1 when the sword fell and he had lost his reason to live and fight

    • @Xaforn
      @Xaforn Před 2 měsíci +3

      Exactly! There’s so much depth!

    • @BrandosArena
      @BrandosArena Před 2 měsíci +2

      I have a buddy that I had a debate with he said that exact thing and called the second season boring when I said it was the best character development in anime I’ve seen but guess it’s the same debate of two sides of a coin see opposite sides of the world

    • @ducksoop.x
      @ducksoop.x Před měsícem +1

      Shounen-bros at their finest, they just watch for the colors and the action.

  • @murphythestoryteller6378
    @murphythestoryteller6378 Před rokem +868

    Awesome detail I picked up in the Thors vs Askeladd duel.
    At the start of the duel, Askeladd says (and I'm paraphrasing here) : "I swear on the name of my father Olaf that I will respect the rules of this duel"
    We know in hindsight that he did not intend to follow through on that.
    But then at the end, when he agrees to let the other people go, after witnessing Thors's true character he says: "I swear on my ancestor Aurelius that I will let them leave".
    And there he was truthful.
    Such an early giveaway of Askeladd's true heritage and his feelings towards each side. He would swear on his father's name knowing that he does not intend to keep that promise, in a way spitting on the name of his father, but he will always be truthful and honorable when invoking the name of Aurelius and his roman heritage.
    And there are so many details like that sprinkled in the early chapters that it's beautiful to go back to.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +132

      Yeah it's a really cool detail! I had something about it in my script at one point but I ended up cutting it

    • @alexvaughan1013
      @alexvaughan1013 Před 9 měsíci +10

      And I wonder if Askeladd took on the duel in the first place not for the money, but to see if Thors was worthy of leading his band and becoming the Artorius he's looking for. He did ask Thors to lead his band after seeing what kind of man he was.

    • @BaguetteDeMal
      @BaguetteDeMal Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@alexvaughan1013I see the duel as a way to enter his true plan of saving Wales since when he helped the Jomsvikings he basically got a free pass into the invasion force and was able to get close to the prince due to it putting his plans into motion

  • @jvever4904
    @jvever4904 Před 9 měsíci +92

    Despite how sensationalized it is, Vinland Saga is actually one of the more accurate takes on Vikings in modern media. It helps that Makoto Yukimura actually visited Iceland on a trip for research before starting the manga.

  • @mrsticky005
    @mrsticky005 Před rokem +2285

    The concept of the "true warrior" is explained by Leif Erikson when he's telling stories of his adventure to Vinland to kid Thorfinn and the other Icelander kids.
    According to Leif not all warriors fight with weapons on the battlefield.
    Leif for example is a warrior who "fights" the sea. The kids of course
    just think Leif is a "coward" who is afraid of war and even kid Thorfinn
    who normally loves listening to Leif's stories of adventure looks at Leif with doubt.
    There is however a character who does respect Leif and that is of course Thors.
    While the kids may see Leif as a goofball Thors knows Leif is the real deal.
    It is highly likely that Leif was the one who taught the true warrior philosophy to Thors.
    Vinland Saga is essentially Thorfinn slowly realizing just how wrong he was as a kid.

    • @kekero540
      @kekero540 Před rokem +205

      True, Thors lived in a society of men who were in many ways higher than him.
      This is exemplified by the fact he’s a pretty bad blacksmith despite being in Iceland for years. He respects the hell out of people who are able to make things. Because deep down he hates that the only thing he’s good at is destruction. (And being a kickass rower)

    • @Maxim0M1
      @Maxim0M1 Před rokem +35

      Despite being very basic logic, there's a hint of truth to what the kids are saying. People who choose not to fight ARE sometimes cowards. Without any real fighting experience and deep truths gained by having experienced actual fighting, you don't really know what you're dealing with. There's a reason Leif turned to Thorfinn to deal with the natives of Vinland, Leif realized Thorfinn was a lot braver than him and knew battle all too well, well enough to actually be prepared to deal with the conflict and broker peace with them in a way he knew he couldn't.
      Real strength is knowing how to battle, being powerful enough to deal with your adversaries, but choosing not to use that power. If you do not have that strength, you will inevitably be overcome with fear when a conflict situation ensues, blinding you to finding alternative solutions. It's the same concept used in so many martial arts. Students are taught how to fight not to actually use those abilities (unless the situation leaves you no other choice), but to be able to deal with the situations peacefully while having the upper hand.

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 Před rokem +28

      @@Maxim0M1 That’s often intelligence rather than cowardice.

    • @Maxim0M1
      @Maxim0M1 Před rokem +12

      @@wildfire9280 They're not mutually exclusive. It's certainly intelligent to avoid a fight if you don't know how to fight, but the motivation behind that action in that scenario is cowardice.

    • @swift1682
      @swift1682 Před rokem +8

      Miyamoto Musashi also talks about a similar concept in the book of five rings, the same idea shown in Vagabond

  • @Bryan_____
    @Bryan_____ Před rokem +490

    While I do understand why a lot of people are turned off by season 2, I personally think it’s even better than the first season so far. I really do appreciate the message that Makoto Yukimura was trying to convey in the slave arc. One of my favorite arcs in Anime/Manga

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +105

      I feel the same way. I wasn't that into Vinland Saga during the prologue, but the farm arc turned it into one of my favorite series

    • @roanferguson8873
      @roanferguson8873 Před 11 měsíci +25

      I fully agree. While I loved Askeladd and all of the supporting cast of season 1, watching the little demon child grow into a compelling and sympathetic character was fantastic.

    • @AR-hh2em
      @AR-hh2em Před měsícem

      Askeladd was the reason why I liked the first season more

  • @Bionickpunk
    @Bionickpunk Před rokem +274

    1:19:23 The Copyright Protection Boys are always perfectly positioned during the anime shots. Well done on the top tier editing.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +35

      Thank you I'm glad you like that haha

  • @oddeyes9413
    @oddeyes9413 Před rokem +47

    Vinland Saga reminds me of something my grandma said: *"Good people do bad things, when the heart is breaking."*

  • @SageCortez
    @SageCortez Před rokem +809

    His character from the start of the mangas to now- the final arc is fkin amazing.
    One of the best protagonists in manga.
    Good video!

    • @rezon5752
      @rezon5752 Před rokem +14

      Thorfinn is goat!

    • @fingergunbari8851
      @fingergunbari8851 Před rokem +5

      The final arc? It's not over brother

    • @SageCortez
      @SageCortez Před rokem +28

      @@fingergunbari8851 No. We are in the final arc and the manga will probably end next year.

    • @scottgimple8107
      @scottgimple8107 Před rokem +6

      @@fingergunbari8851we r in the last arc now. Prob about 20-30 chapters to go based of the authors comment

    • @poweringinceneration4788
      @poweringinceneration4788 Před rokem

      ​@RezoN

  • @JarkeyBacon
    @JarkeyBacon Před rokem +950

    Making a 3hr video on any topic is a massive achievement. Bravo! Personally, I like to make shorter videos myself, but the effort put into this work should be recognised. I'll be sharing this around in a few of the Vinland Saga circles I'm in. :D

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +71

      Thank you man I really appreciate that, and keep up the great work on your own projects!

    • @comrade_munch
      @comrade_munch Před rokem +2

      THE Jarkey Bacon? 😳

    • @JarkeyBacon
      @JarkeyBacon Před rokem +2

      @@comrade_munch The?? Well, I think I'm the only one :D

    • @shigglezz684
      @shigglezz684 Před 7 měsíci

      Dude it was a big struggle to watch at first cause the entire asthetic and poor jokes but the video is awesome and I have to finish

  • @rnrgaming4579
    @rnrgaming4579 Před rokem +120

    Gigantism, the condition thorkell suffers/benefits from can cause accute arrythmia and pressure loss in certain vascular systems that his organs because of their size are not designed to handle. This can cause blunt force trauma and especially concussions to be quite common. Thorfinn spun Thorkell's head so fast that the bruising and swinging of the brain but also momentary pressure and flow disruption made more accute by his condition rendered him unconscious

  • @uzumakifelix
    @uzumakifelix Před rokem +36

    its simple, lots of people preach "no violence" but never experience real war, violence.
    thorfinn experience hell itself, he knows it and we know he did

  • @thepurehealer1279
    @thepurehealer1279 Před 8 měsíci +21

    I like that adult Thorfinn clearly doesn't forgive Askeladd for killing his father or mistreating him yet also very clearly still cares for him and has learned a lot from him. It's a very layered relationship that isn't simply one thing or the other and is one of my favorite parts of the show

  • @aiceagain7128
    @aiceagain7128 Před rokem +726

    Bruh this storytelling is a masterpiece, all the joke are a 10/10, the story is explained in the cleanest way possible, I never post comments, but i felt like i was forced to tell you that the job here is incredible ! Keep up the good work

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +52

      Thank you for going out of your way to leave this one, definitely gave me a smile

    • @imsentinelprime9279
      @imsentinelprime9279 Před rokem +5

      This story made me grow a Greek beard.

  • @bornanime3255
    @bornanime3255 Před rokem +426

    Canute's entire journey is really similar to one of my favourite writings in the Bible. Ecclesiastes, a book on a great philosopher and king who realised the futility of all that he'd gained as a king and the true value in living. It's really interesting how the story of Vinland Saga looks on concepts I'd never thought I'd ever see in Japanese manga. Oddly enough I'd read Vinland Saga at a time in my life when I really needed the right push to not make major mistakes. It's really touching. Your look into Vinland Saga was amazing man. Hopefully I get to see your videos as the go on further. Take your time with what you do man. We all, or at least some, really do appreciate the quality of these.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +26

      Thank you I'm really glad you liked it :)

    • @Yuki_Ika7
      @Yuki_Ika7 Před rokem +15

      I might not be a Christian but I do agree with the parts about living in peace, being wholesome and the like, Jesus seems like a great guy. Still though I do not agree with everything (partially because I see it as mythology, partially because some of it I see as morally wrong) and it is sad to see so many twist media/texts such as the Bible to suit their needs to spread hate and violence (a prime example being the westbero baptist church)

    • @pieterlindeque7798
      @pieterlindeque7798 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Vinland Saga is actually one of the best Christian theology inspired works I've seen. It's subtle and not on the nose, but it's quite obvious that the author has written that theme throughout the core of his work. It's almost like the author parallels the difficulties of being a better person in a broken world to the difficulties of living up to the glory of God that all men fail to do. That truth that no man is capable of living as Christ destroyed Canute's worldview and also shaped Thorfinn's indirectly. Where one man became hopeless because he realised paradise on Earth is impossible the other man realised that even if it may be impossible we must still strive to be better and hold paradise in the hearts of mankind. I think that's why meeting Thorfinn brought Canute back to a better path. He saw that even in a world without paradise, a single man can still strive to do what little he can to at least try to make peace a reality. I expect Vinland Saga to have a tragic ending, but I also believe it will have an ending that shows Thorfinn in a state of peace after realising the "Vinland" his father told him about lies with the soul of man and not the material world.

    • @understanding77
      @understanding77 Před 7 měsíci

      its interesting you say that because the anime has quotes from that chapter of the bible

  • @doomslayer2290
    @doomslayer2290 Před rokem +249

    It's cool how philosophically this is very connected to Attack on Titan. Where Attack on Titan focuses on the cycle of hate, and Vinland focuses on breaking hate and the ropes that bind you to it.

    • @InvaderKaz2008
      @InvaderKaz2008 Před rokem +62

      AOT and Vinland Saga are about solving the same problem, the difference between them however is that the "heroes" of each story choose different paths to find a solution. In AOT, it's pure cynicism, even nihilism at points, and it's pretty overt that Eren makes the wrong choice, even if ultimately it does give his friends a chance to right the generational wrongdoings against their people. In VS though, Thorfinn rises from nihilism to find a path towards peace with unadulterated optimism. Eren allowed his tragedies to consume him and lead him to a path of violence in order to secure a faint glimmer of hope. Thorfinn overcomes his tragedies to become a shining beacon of hope. Two answers to the same problem.

    • @demontiming3234
      @demontiming3234 Před rokem +1

      Bro you literally you wanted to sound smart so bad 😂😂. AoT and Vinland are literally both about breaking the cycle of hate. In AoT both sides at the end had the same goal but only one side was actually taking action to get their which was Erens side while the alliance going against him wanted to stop hate, but only to save themselves and they didn’t really know how to. Not only that but they were going about it the wrong way.
      While in Vinland, Canute is similar to Eren in that both use violence to get to their goal and they are trying to save a group of people. Canute as many would say “abandoned his “humanity” and loyalty to god to bring peace to the Vikings. And Eren similarly did the same to save his people and being peace. And Thorfinn wants to bring peace to all by ceasing war and violence entirely like Armin. But in all honesty, Canute is the most human character in the series, and hasn’t abandoned his humanity. It is only natural for someone in his position to think the way he does. That is why he is still human. While Thorfinn isn’t human, the way he thinks is different and above that of normal human thinking. His mindset is only something that can be adopted by going through what he has.
      Same as Eren, his mindset is like a combination of Thorfinn and Canute. He wants to save his people so he uses as much violence as necessary. He even endures all the pain he has to in order to achieve peace same as Thorfinn.

    • @demontiming3234
      @demontiming3234 Před rokem +1

      ⁠​⁠@@InvaderKaz2008 you are wrong. You make it seem like Eren did it out of revenge. And if you actually read the story then you’d see that he literally doesn’t even want to do the rumbling and is sorry. He literally hates it more than any other character in the story, but he is the only one with a will strong enough to do what it takes. Everyone else in AoT just says they want to end the violence and that they want peace. But as the story literally shows, the rumbling was literally the only option.
      Please reread AoT. Eren didn’t let anything consume him. The anger he shows is literally just his willpower and his anger towards what he has to do.
      In the story. It literally shows that Eren tried literally every other option before he went with the rumbling. Don’t forget that he was basically spoiled about the entire story early on and it had a huge impact on him. But after trying to go for peace and it constantly failing, it showed him that the future couldn’t be changed to save everyone. Eren sacrificed his humanity and shouldered the pain of everyone in order to do this. That’s what makes him more human and compassionate than anyone else in the story.

    • @InvaderKaz2008
      @InvaderKaz2008 Před rokem +20

      @@demontiming3234 nah

    • @jakublutek9361
      @jakublutek9361 Před rokem

      @@demontiming3234 You're completely illiterate culturally if that's how you read this situation.

  • @Tohpeak
    @Tohpeak Před rokem +49

    Just realized the copyright boys are doing the P4 specialist dance. Fye ✨

  • @magnusmanga22
    @magnusmanga22 Před rokem +57

    One thing that people might not realize is that Thorkell is based off of a real person Thorkell the Tall. He served Cnut (Canut) the Great and actually fought switched sides during the Danish invasion. He first sides with the Danes and then switches to the English during the battle of London and then switched back to the Danish side fighting alongside Cnut

  • @dennisssmith430
    @dennisssmith430 Před rokem +42

    This man is a genius for using the Berserk manga method of storytelling. The Farm Arc = The Black Swordsman Arc. Bravo sir 👏

  • @mrsticky005
    @mrsticky005 Před rokem +204

    I can't say that I agree that Thorfinn actually building a settlement in Vinland
    doesn't matter. In fact I'd argue it is going to be the most important arc
    because that is Thorfinn's ultimate test.
    Now historically we know that the Vinland settlement fails and Thorfinn returns
    to Iceland and eventually dies in his homeland.
    However the question is, if the manga follows history (more or less) then
    what will lead Thorfinn back to Iceland? Why does Thorfinn ultimately fail?
    At the same time I do not expect that Vinland will be an entirely nihilistic story.
    I don't think the point of it will be, Thorfinn is a stupid pacifist and war is inevitable.
    Thorfinn has friends and family and a legacy.
    The real life Thorfinn had a son named Snorri who was the first person of
    European descent born on North American soil.
    Will Thorfinn teach Snorri what it means to be a "true warrior"?
    Will Snorri understand where a young Thorfinn failed to?
    Sure maybe none of this will happen. The manga doesn't HAVE TO follow history and
    the sagas (which I think are more legend?) The manga could have evil robots appear
    out of nowhere and have Thorfinn unite all of humanity in one final epic struggle.
    But I personally feel like it should (more or less) follow history/the sagas
    and I think it will. I'm just not sure what points Yukimura will want to focus on.
    However I think ending with Snorri will be bring the series full circle.
    Finally this isn't historical but after Thorfinn dies I want a small time skip of an older Snorri meeting a young William the Conqueror and have him implied to be the spiritual successor to Askeladd.

    • @SageCortez
      @SageCortez Před rokem +27

      Good comment.
      I have faith in Yukimura that he will write a good ending that will wrap up the themes, characters and story nicely.
      Chapter 200 should come out this month!
      Snorri.. soon.

    • @alexvaughan1013
      @alexvaughan1013 Před rokem +8

      ​@@SageCortez It'd better not end like AoT!!

    • @lornbaker1083
      @lornbaker1083 Před rokem

      His proper title is the Unfortunate one born out of wedlock. until he actually conquers All of england.

    • @jamesjaya6744
      @jamesjaya6744 Před 10 měsíci +10

      'Thousand year voyage' give the clue. Probably thorfin will fail, but it will insipire us the reader to dream about it. Vinland is a dream that is passed from generation to generation. Thorfinn passed the torch to all of us. Vinland might be impossible, but the author still tell us to seek it

  • @dest2118
    @dest2118 Před rokem +212

    This is so well-written. I remember reading the farmland arc in 2019 god damn it hit hard. Thorfinn’s character arc is so incredibly raw and you did a phenomenal job on this video!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +7

      Thank you so much I'm glad you think so

  • @vazzap100
    @vazzap100 Před rokem +45

    Thorfinn has shaped up to be my favourite protagonist of all time, and I can’t wait to see where his story goes from here!

  • @E44428
    @E44428 Před rokem +27

    Vinland Saga is my current hyperfixaton so having a 3 hour long video about it is HEAVEN thank you so much!!!

  • @KittyRoyalty777
    @KittyRoyalty777 Před rokem +40

    I never even knew this anime existed, but Captain Mack is so fire with their delivery that I'm sitting and watching this whole three-hour video.

  • @fenris5932
    @fenris5932 Před rokem +125

    Yet another banger. Thanks for doing this kinda stuff. I know CZcams doesn't reward you for taking the "take months to drop one nuke of a video" style of content creation but all the effort makes for an excellent piece of content.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +7

      Thank you, I'm happy knowing it's worth the effort for some people

  • @an8strengthkobold360
    @an8strengthkobold360 Před rokem +18

    I really appreciate how he took the time to edit himself into the cart, moving along with it.
    It's a nice funny little detail.

  • @alexvaughan1013
    @alexvaughan1013 Před rokem +22

    A 3-hour video on Vinland Saga AND you pronounce Askeladd's name right. You really went all out with this!

  • @arutito4126
    @arutito4126 Před rokem +41

    I am not exaggerating when I say that this is legitimately one of the best CZcams videos I’ve ever seen. You and your content are legitimately special, and I hope you know it.
    Going straight to the Patreon!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před 11 měsíci +3

      Thank you my friend you're very kind 😁

  • @jdubluffy1959
    @jdubluffy1959 Před rokem +121

    Bro this video was absolutely amazing, you’re writing is so great, you kept my attention the whole time, gave me a better understanding of the story and a deeper wisdom. This is a real special video and I appreciate the MASSIVE amount of time you put into this video. I love this!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +9

      Thank you luffy my man I'm really glad you liked it

  • @PitFighterPlus
    @PitFighterPlus Před rokem +244

    So, part of why I constantly bring up Vinland saga to people (the manga specifically) along with Berserk is cause; there is overarching messages in the stories about things that I feel are missing more and more for people in our current era. Sure, these stories are told through blood, death and destruction, in the pages of fictional books-yet they still hold exceptionally important messages about who we are as people and about growth, acceptance, improvement, adversity, awareness, failure, overcoming ourselves...So many things.
    I've not watched any sort of 3 hour long video in quite some time, the last was Lord of the Rings trilogy.
    I feel every second was well spent.
    You covered many of the things, and reasons why, I love Vinland Saga so much. Well done Mack. I might just be some random face on the internet, but, you did an amazing job.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +29

      I absolutely agree with you. I love seeing stories that are relevant to the reader regardless of the subject matter or time period. I'm really glad you liked the video, thank you so much

    • @ofimportance5458
      @ofimportance5458 Před rokem

      this is literally any narrative

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +9

      @@ofimportance5458 not if it's as bad as your take

    • @adi-qx8ls
      @adi-qx8ls Před rokem +7

      @@CaptainMack Chad response

    • @oatstealer5075
      @oatstealer5075 Před rokem

      If only berserk fans had more braincells to read the manga as anything more than "haha funny man big sword go kill, so cool!"

  • @ibrahim3348
    @ibrahim3348 Před rokem +80

    Yo are a really intelligent guy and I’m amazed of the sheer depth you went in to cover and link so many themes and not just from thorfinn’s perspective. You really opened my eyes man, what an amazing story Vinland saga is. The quality of this video is insane and the time and effort put into it is evident, always great to find underrated gems lol. I hope you get the recognition you deserve!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +8

      Thank you much that's very kind, I'm glad you liked the video

  • @theshrekchurch1559
    @theshrekchurch1559 Před rokem +50

    I love the part of vinland saga where Thorfinn says "hes right behind me isnt he" and then vinlands all over the place

  • @X_x_ShadowGaming_x_X
    @X_x_ShadowGaming_x_X Před rokem +546

    He stands out now. Because he has character growth in the 2nd Season. But lemme tell you, in the 1st Season Thorfinn no matter how much his actions "made sense" he was (possibly designed) to be unlikeable, and it showed.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +74

      Agreed 👏👏

    • @KIN1311
      @KIN1311 Před rokem +95

      *Obviously* designed, his past actions are so demonized now his whole entire life mission is pretty much to make amends for the shit he did and build a land of peace, we just didnt know it in the first season

    • @islandboy9381
      @islandboy9381 Před rokem +107

      Also designed to deconstruct the typical ''edgy, angry avenger'' trope that gets portrayed as cool and enticing in other (shonen) manga to show how it would look like in reality: sad, nihilistic and offputting.

    • @ThyBait
      @ThyBait Před rokem +6

      He wasn’t made to be unlikeable tf are you talking about

    • @X_x_ShadowGaming_x_X
      @X_x_ShadowGaming_x_X Před rokem +1

      @@ThyBait Calm your tits, I said that way in case I pissed someone off, clearly it didn't work. I made the comment in the first place because as great as Thorfinn is written; we have to spend an ENTIRE season seeing a side with little to no likeable qualities, and for that to be your main character, someone who should be guiding the show, it leaves the overall experience with no one to relate with.
      The only character I can think of that I genuinely liked as a person throughout the entirety of S1 was Thorkell. It didn't seem like he raped or was a dishonorable douche (at least at this point) but was honest about pretty much everything and just loved fighting.
      Askeladd, as great as he was written; was also unlikeable. He is literally a replica of Thorfinn without even realizing it. Instead of just letting go of the past and joining people who cared about him, like Wales, he is actively leading a crusade with the very kind of people he despises in the hopes that he can ACTUALLY make a difference, when obviously that was never in the cards for him. The same way Thorfinn could've just killed Askeladd in his sleep and gone back to his family, beating Askeladd was never in the cards for him either, so instead he became an unlikeable errand boy for the very people he despised.
      I don't have to explain the little side characters in the Askeladd band, they were all unredeemable pillagers. And I couldn't connect with any of their jokes due to what they literally just did an hour before.
      I could go on but my point is while I understand WHY it is this way for the show, it doesn't change the fact that there is literally NO ONE to care about in S1 that the plot follows. They are all actively doing terrible things and whether or not Thorfinn is doing it for whinny reasons doesn't matter because he doesn't question, or even make an effort until 20 episodes later.

  • @Ez.bake_evan
    @Ez.bake_evan Před rokem +103

    Vinland Saga is one of my favorite stories ever. The development and character writing is unlike anything else in manga or anime. And you can't forget about the banging soundtrack, it's fits the tone and setting perfectly.
    Awesome video man. I really appreciate the length, effort and care you put into this!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +5

      Thank you so much I appreciate that

    • @bullymaguire6773
      @bullymaguire6773 Před rokem +2

      S2 OP2 is probably the best OP I have heard and seen.

  • @therealforestelf
    @therealforestelf Před rokem +36

    I have watched this twice in a row just to be really really really really sure that my first assumption was correct. This is just absolutely epic. So very well explained, narrated, summed up and edited. It really is a masterpiece in itself that does justice to the masterpiece which is Vinland Saga. And from a long haired dude to another long haired dude: your hair is friggin rad. Everything about this video is awesome. Such a masterpiece!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +2

      Thank you so much! You're very kind! I'm really glad you like it, rock on long haired dude

  • @pinkpuff8562
    @pinkpuff8562 Před rokem +44

    I have geniuenly never felt as engaged in any youtube video as this one.
    After marathoning the vinlandsaga up to S2E9, this geniuenly had me hooked, from start to finish.
    That requires mastery in pacing, presentation, timing.
    And for a 3 hour video?
    Thats unironically is some of the most impressive feats I can imagine, imagening the sheer amount of time it takes to make it right in a modern day enviroment where some people like myself has the attentionspan of a hummingbird on cocaine, aka none.
    You geniuenly have impressed me beyond what configuration of letters and words that the english language can convey.
    Great video man, wholeheartedly.

  • @SkyHighClaw
    @SkyHighClaw Před rokem +173

    Man your videos are incredible. THIS is finally the video that's gonna get me watching Vinland Saga.
    Every other video only focused on Ashladd and Thorfinn you actually went into the concept of a true warrior which is FAR more interesting than just forgiveness which every other anituber kept pointing to.
    Not only is your delivery unique your subject matter is too. Your channel is CLEARLY underrated

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +13

      Hell yeah I'm so glad to hear that. Thank you brother

    • @Doomergedon
      @Doomergedon Před 8 měsíci

      But- the captain just told all the story as far as the anime goes😐…

  • @FvNx.
    @FvNx. Před rokem +32

    This video was actually life changing, thorfinn is such an inspiration not only to me but I’m sure many aswell and your video helped show me that. So thank you so much for these 3 incredible hours I’ve spent watching your content.

  • @TheGyldenaut
    @TheGyldenaut Před rokem +12

    15:44 Leif was actually going to North America on purpose, the first people who saw it though found it by accident. Living on Greenland, there was practically no wood for building, so he made the excursion on the account of a different guy who saw it while looking for Greenland to find his family.

  • @hujendong3730
    @hujendong3730 Před rokem +3

    All your long videos never miss man, I love your csm video and the way you present all the content and retell the story is something else. Great job

  • @aashna369
    @aashna369 Před rokem +29

    this is one of the best analysis videos I've watched on the series. made me so emotional on parts. such good work, looking forward for more of your videos!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +2

      That's so kind of you to say thank you so much

  • @maxojavierrojasurzua5746
    @maxojavierrojasurzua5746 Před rokem +30

    Vinland Saga has being one of the best stories I have read and watch in recent years. Thanks Yukimura.

  • @PopStrikers
    @PopStrikers Před 6 měsíci +5

    Honestly been sleeping on this cuz I figured it was just a "rar rar Viking smash" anime, but all your other videos are bangers so I figured I'd keep it on in another tab.
    Had no idea there was so much going on in Vinland Saga. Brought it over to my main monitor like halfway through and just watched. The themes at play here are amazing. Definitely giving this a read.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před 6 měsíci +1

      That's awesome, I'm so glad to hear it. Thanks for giving me a chance

    • @PopStrikers
      @PopStrikers Před 6 měsíci

      @@CaptainMack Just got caught up.
      1) Holy shit what an incredible ride so far.
      2) Ugly cried at Chapter 191
      3) I cannot BELIEVE I got dragged into this at SUCH a cliffhanger 🫠

    • @Benpurple4
      @Benpurple4 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@PopStrikers Nice! I've been thinking of reading again, I left off where the idiots were probably going to fuck up the positive relationship with the natives. Thanks to your comment I will be waiting another few months or so. I ain't hanging on no cliffs homie.

  • @lilyb2334
    @lilyb2334 Před 8 měsíci +2

    amazing video from start to end, it shows how much work you put into it and we can't thank you enough for it 👏👏

  • @modvavet
    @modvavet Před rokem +35

    It's all cool, bud. For this level of quality you can just take as much time as you need.
    Had this playing in the background while I was working (IT stuff; I'm still actually at work until 2:30 AM) and it really improved what was turning into a rough night. Thank you!
    Now I just need to actually crack open vol. 2 of the tankobon and get to reading.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +5

      I'm really glad my video was able to help in that way, thank my friend. Definitely worth a read lol, at least I think so

    • @modvavet
      @modvavet Před rokem +2

      @@CaptainMack oh, it'll definitely be worth it.
      Also just finished the first Bunny Girl Senpai light novel and I'm working on vol.1 of To Your Eternity and a Junji Ito anthology.
      I used to read a ton, but then I fell out of it for over a decade and now I'm trying to get back into it. Reading legit gets more difficult when you don't crack a book for a long while. :P

  • @chriscyborg2187
    @chriscyborg2187 Před rokem +6

    Damn another long video, I just love it. You the only one i know spend this much time of analysing. Keep going

  • @Theodor_Bockemuehl
    @Theodor_Bockemuehl Před rokem +8

    This 3 hour review is so beautiful, so so beautiful - i cried multiple times, in all honesty : Thank you. It touched me deeply and i really can feel the hard work you poured into making this masterpiece.

  • @alandickens8948
    @alandickens8948 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Wonderful video. There certainly is a lot to say about this amazing story and its amazing characters, and you did so beautifully!

  • @DOG_EATER_1887
    @DOG_EATER_1887 Před rokem +24

    Vagabond did basically the same thing now that i think about it, though musashi just learns to do his own thing for the most part and still uses violence when necessary, unlike thorfinn who makes it a prinicple to never use violence as little as possible and tries to make a change in the world.

    • @adi-qx8ls
      @adi-qx8ls Před 11 měsíci

      Vagabond is bhuddist tale bruh, they are not same.

    • @sunnyibnakram
      @sunnyibnakram Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@adi-qx8lsmy friend. the original commenter did not say they were the same, they said that they were both written similarly.

    • @mattb.7079
      @mattb.7079 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@adi-qx8lsit's not a Buddhist tale, it's an adaptation of Musashi's chronicles

  • @seanbhagwandeen802
    @seanbhagwandeen802 Před rokem +1

    Your videos are so underrated these should have millions of views I love Vinland and this story telling keep up the good work

  • @rockerrrboy8501
    @rockerrrboy8501 Před rokem +21

    Even so I've neither watched nor read it Vinland Saga, your video legitimately made me tear up more than once, thank you for such hard work.

  • @Ish12
    @Ish12 Před rokem +5

    Dude how are you still this underrated, every single video gives me so much unfathomable joy

  • @ninjades7002
    @ninjades7002 Před rokem +10

    God what a video analysis of Vinland Saga this was, how you were able to make a 3hr video and keep in constantly engaging is why I watch you Mack. Your content is amazing and I am happy I finally got to watch this. Can’t wait to your next video!

    • @ninjades7002
      @ninjades7002 Před rokem +1

      I love you Mack

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +1

      Thanks Ninja, love you too dawg. I'm really glad you enjoyed this one

  • @DourFlower
    @DourFlower Před 9 měsíci +1

    You helped me to realize new and wonderful things about a manga ive loved for years

  • @TheYoshiHunterOfOz
    @TheYoshiHunterOfOz Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is a LOT of information to fit into a single video and I think your pacing and transitions from arc to arc or scene to scene are very seamless, you have a really good style of videos!

  • @kouji9768
    @kouji9768 Před rokem +4

    1000/10 video! Loved every second of it. The way you narrate this story is absolutely phenomenal and really inspiring no cap 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem

      Thanks my friend I'm really glad you enjoyed it

  • @WynellLongin
    @WynellLongin Před rokem +4

    this was truly a master piece, thank for you hard work and passion for creating content like this

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem

      Thank you for checking it out, I'm really glad you enjoyed it

  • @ruseagull
    @ruseagull Před 11 měsíci +1

    What an amazing video. Watching it right after finishing second season (which was just fenomalenal) is a bliss. Thank you for your work. Also I adore your sense of humor

  • @gummebear1597
    @gummebear1597 Před rokem +9

    I actually prefer the longer videos. I can tell you put a huge amount of effort in this. Thank you sir!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +1

      Thank you I'm glad you do, I love making them

  • @b-santriestorock.5044
    @b-santriestorock.5044 Před rokem +7

    3 hours, man! Just finished the first half, gonna pick up the rest sometime later. Great video as always!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +1

      Thank you I'm really glad you're enjoying it so far!

    • @b-santriestorock.5044
      @b-santriestorock.5044 Před rokem

      @@CaptainMack Your long videos are always enjoyable. Great writing and editing every time. XD

  • @sdemac00
    @sdemac00 Před rokem +25

    Fantastic analysis and masterful way of laying it out, funny as all get out. Another great video, always a pleasure to get the notifications of your videos
    Praying for your time of “youtube randomly deciding this video getting pushed” once again

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +2

      Haha we're both hoping for that! But I'm glad you liked it, thank you

    • @sdemac00
      @sdemac00 Před rokem +1

      @@CaptainMack genuinely one of the bigger inspirations when i sit down and write a script (that eventually goes nowhere)
      You are great at what you do and hope you’re rewarded for it

  • @FrankFreezy_
    @FrankFreezy_ Před 4 měsíci

    Absolutely wonderful video. Thank you for all the hard work you put into making this video possible

  • @lyndonyang3042
    @lyndonyang3042 Před rokem

    wow, i haven't sat through an 3 hour video no breaks for awhile! great job man

  • @mill1048
    @mill1048 Před rokem +3

    Thanks for the vid, you're really good at keeping peoples attention with such a long vid, but it was really interesting and kept me tuned in most of the time. I will try to understand shows and stories more like this from now on :)

  • @anthonywasher9855
    @anthonywasher9855 Před rokem +9

    yo boss this was so good! I really admire your clear concise speech. Taking your time to pause after each sentence, allowing the viewer to digest what you have said is very important, And you have nailed it. keep it up bro! viewer from New Zealand

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +1

      I don't get praise for that kind of thing very often so thank you!

  • @halvinalvin
    @halvinalvin Před rokem

    wow. what a great video. such a deep look into the characters motivations and thoughts

  • @odinson2273
    @odinson2273 Před rokem +4

    You and Jacob Geller have become my favorite doc channels on CZcams. I know it's not a 'doc' in the typical sense, but it's stuff like this I wish they'd used to teach in schools.
    You're not just telling, you're explaining, going in depth. Not only do you learn the story but everything in it including things you may have missed.
    This, the chain saw mam video, and Berserk will forever be amongst my favorite videos on this website

  • @tamato5745
    @tamato5745 Před rokem +7

    Amazing video on what is such a good series. Many messages that I feel are usually missed when it comes to media nowadays condensed into a meager 3 hours. Entertaining and worthwhile.
    Please continue your work it is well done.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +2

      Thank you my friend that's very kind of you, I absolutely will keep at it

  • @izurukamakura237
    @izurukamakura237 Před rokem +4

    Also I really appreciate your videos man you put so much effort and emotion into them making them not only entertaining but heartfelt when it's appropriate/ when you want to lol

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +1

      I'm really glad you think so thank you so much

  • @luapark3068
    @luapark3068 Před rokem +7

    This was truly one of the best 3 hours ive spent in a good while. You had me interested reading in a manga that ive already read, and feeling for characters that i thought i was done with. Excellent work mate, cant wait for your next video in the next few months!

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +1

      Thank you so much, that's huge praise!

  • @nunyabeezwix7816
    @nunyabeezwix7816 Před rokem +4

    This video was a journey and the end moved me in a way I haven’t been in a while. I finished this yesterday and just finished binging your berserk video today. I’ll definitely be following for a while and look forward to your future work no matter how long it takes.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem

      Thank you my friend, I'm really glad to hear that

  • @JeeBayYT
    @JeeBayYT Před rokem +9

    This story, it's just crazy on how it'll shatter your ego to pieces... You'll go down to earths core even. I've watched the whole damn video and i can say now this guy has just perfectly captured the feeling this anime gives you. Just complete humility. So much so that it'd fix your own behavior sometimes. Nice video.

  • @Artsyp_anda
    @Artsyp_anda Před rokem +3

    I love your analysis and instant subscribe! Funny jokes, pacing and just overall such a lovely listen and watch

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem

      Thank you so much I'm glad you liked it

  • @pikachuwu69TTV
    @pikachuwu69TTV Před rokem +1

    This is an incredible video! Took me 3 days to watch but was definitely worth it.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +1

      Thank you for taking the time to watch it, I'm glad you liked it!

  • @lordsqugm9722
    @lordsqugm9722 Před rokem +19

    this vid could have easily been over 5 hours long if he covered the rest of the mnaga. truly incredible

  • @ArkaniproMA
    @ArkaniproMA Před rokem +11

    Thank you so much for this video,
    I hope I can struggle like Thorfinn for my whole life.
    God bless.

  • @Daniel-ms9xe
    @Daniel-ms9xe Před rokem +3

    This video is a 10/10 i was expecting a normal review but got more and a deeper look into life

  • @sagnikroy8973
    @sagnikroy8973 Před 3 měsíci

    man your videos are really awesome.. I really appreciate the effort you go through to make these!!

  • @dimissavage
    @dimissavage Před 10 měsíci +3

    Vinland saga went from an anime i thought was just cool viking action to one of my favorite stories in anime/manga i’ve had in a while

  • @jackcanonach4454
    @jackcanonach4454 Před rokem +3

    That was a good video my guy. The scene where Thorfinn tells the story of Vinland just like Thors made me tear up a bit the first time I read it.

  • @MilzLintesa_TLM
    @MilzLintesa_TLM Před rokem +5

    This anime is one of the greatest I’ve ever seen and this video is one of the greatest explanations and break downs I’ve seen. I respect your 3hrs.

  • @rodrigocoelhomontealto2797

    one of the best videos ive ever seen, congrats dude, please keep this great content

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem

      Thank you my friend, I absolutely will

  • @kodibrown7765
    @kodibrown7765 Před 4 měsíci +2

    “I have no enemies”
    The impact this statement has had on me is massive and this series will forever be close to my heart. I don’t think I’ve ever been so moved from a show or manga. Brilliant piece of work from a brilliant mind

  • @bijoyghimire9909
    @bijoyghimire9909 Před rokem +5

    bro really spent 3 hours explaining why thorfinn is a goat😂😂

  • @mzbros3659
    @mzbros3659 Před rokem +4

    Imagine changing mindsets with a piece of art so impactful. What a message

  • @collegerebel
    @collegerebel Před rokem +1

    Thanks for all the work you put into this video. It was worth the three hours.👍🏻

  • @jasonayme3234
    @jasonayme3234 Před rokem +1

    Great vid man I watched the whole thing in one sitting, didn't even look away just watched and enjoyed.

  • @jayrett
    @jayrett Před rokem +8

    Holy shit a 3-hr video we have been blessed beyond measure

  • @blakesmith7058
    @blakesmith7058 Před rokem +8

    Absolutely amazing video essay, sadly I wont watch all of it until at least the second season of the anime is done airing episodes, but there's no way I can keep myself from coming back here once that stops

  • @unstabl-3
    @unstabl-3 Před rokem +2

    Your humor in the beginning about having too much time was an instant subscribe! 1st time watching a video from you lol

  • @Keith-vf9ml
    @Keith-vf9ml Před 4 měsíci +1

    You’re editing makes a 3 hour video fly by goddamn props

  • @pierre2453
    @pierre2453 Před rokem +4

    Another good video, it's incredible how youll make me want to watch a 3 hour video about something i dont know nothing about, and did not intend to learn about, abd yet im completely hooked, this in an INCREDIBLE video, all of yours are, thanks for the content my brorher

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +1

      Thank you that's so kind of you to say, I'm really glad you liked it

  • @tannerbruning868
    @tannerbruning868 Před rokem +10

    To give thors credit, he didn’t really get a chance to teach thorfin what a true warrior was in large part thanks to eskelad

  • @michaelthompson1722
    @michaelthompson1722 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I watched this video before reading/watching any vinland saga. This video is great, It has personally helped me in my own life,during a very dark time. Now that I've seen the show I appreciate this video so much and the life lessons Makoto Yukimura was doing his best to teach. Again I doubt you understand how much this video helped me. Thank you for creating it.

  • @nekobyoneko444
    @nekobyoneko444 Před rokem +1

    Great video on a great series!
    While I don't expect it to happen I would love to see you cover the other half of Vinland Saga when it wraps up.

  • @noviksstory3325
    @noviksstory3325 Před rokem +5

    Criminally underrated content creator, to be able to keep my full attention for 3 hours straight is an achievement. Thank you for this masterpiece.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem +1

      Thank YOU for watching it, I'm really glad you liked it

  • @Thisiskalz
    @Thisiskalz Před rokem +7

    Damn this video is amazing. I think this is honestly the best video I’ve ever watched on a manga/anime. By the end of this vid I’ve become a somewhat changed person. It’s crazy the life lessons Vinland saga teaches you. Thank you for making this video man.

    • @CaptainMack
      @CaptainMack  Před rokem

      Thank you so much for saying that and watching it, I appreciate that ❤️

  • @daddyfudge7957
    @daddyfudge7957 Před rokem

    such a fantastic video, great commentary from a humorous and very knowledges commentator that brings a great insight to the meaning and story of vinland saga.

  • @aggersoul23
    @aggersoul23 Před 10 měsíci +1

    This is my 6th time watching this whole thing through...
    Man, you are awesome.
    I already love the story, but I wouldn't have even given an hour to it without you. Such an awesome entertainer.