Heroes in History: Kyoshin
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2021
- DONE.
It's done...stop asking for it.
Guys, you gotta understand, I was super excited to do Kyoshin's dedicated videos, but I need TIME. Putting together these videos takes research, and days of playing as them. I need to level them up, feel out the characters personalities, and do TONS of background reading. I knew very early on who the Kyoshin were likely based on, but I still have a process. But ever since the reveal of Kyoshin, people were demanding I release a Kyoshin video. I felt a lot of pressure to get it done quick for ya'll, while dealing with some demons of my own. I've got a raging oni that I battle daily (for those of you who love Japanese folklore like me, you'll understand that metaphor).
But then I calmed down and remembered that there are plenty of people out there who genuinely are curious, but were respectful about this whole situation I'm in...so I finished the video for all of you.
Now some of you likely noticed that this is a Heroes in History, and I usually don't release those until after the Analysis video. Normally that would be the order I do things in, but Analysis videos require more than history research, they require me to really analyze the playstyle of the characters, strategies to use with them, and a proper and objective analysis of their feats, executions, and character. That takes time. I won't do an analysis until I've at least reached reputation 8 with Kyoshin. So give me some more time on that. But Heroes in History is JUST about history, so that I can do pretty easily.
I'll also say this video was a pain to make. I played for two days straight and couldn't get a good match in PvP. Eventually I had to just play a breach match with my brother so I could have some fun and relax. That's the footage I used until the ending. Sorry about that.
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Lovely Lore!
I think their blindness/partial blindness also ties into their connection or control over mirages. It reminds them that they CANT always trust their senses and that’s also a part of how they defeat their opponents.
its more likely to loook cool thats why hes all animed up
@@jimdorr2993 I mean on the wiki page it does say they have a connection to the spirit realm so it's probably a bit of both
He's really going all out with the one piece references
Oh shit king himself
I want to ask for orochi but it will all be wano arc references
Yeah but one piece is a shit anime it's like watching the grass grow
@@sandwhichcounter2986 so bad pacing cuz u can’t be arsed to the entire thing even though it’s worth it and has a better story line and power system than ur favourite anime? Oh and next u say Naruto is all filler? Mate don’t be that kid ffs
thats what i was thinking lmao
I honestly think heroes like kyoshin are the ones I like most in for honor. Those heroes who have clear connections and inspirations to real-life counterparts, but also take something from other sources, and have their own personal touch given by the devs. Thank you so much!
. Your honor....Cry about it.
you forgot something: when it's true they're fictional but based on Yamabushi, real life folklore depicted Tengu as Yamabushi, this is the "warrior" aspect of Yamabushi. Tengu often appeared to challenge arrogant warriors and teach them humility by defeat....who are the arrogant warriors? those of the Chimera and Horkos who were too caught up in their petty squabbles ruining the Kyoshin temple without regards.
Kinda sad Vergil wasn’t mentioned for the move to kill someone by sheathing their scabbard with Judgement Cut End or his entire moveset. But im still really digging this video! Also diggin the whole series of Heros in History
Its funny that I always quote now im motivated after the click single slash execution
Maybe im out of lign but virgil didnt coin that move he just stole the style from the past
While Vergil is the character most people think of when seeing the “sheath to kill” move, he’s not the progenitor of it.
The move actually originates from Fist of the North Star, in which the protagonist Kenshiro would swiftly punch or kick an opponent, only for the opponent to take all of the damage after the attack has ended.
This trope was quickly adapted to katanas in fictional anime and manga, which inspired (or perhaps motivated) capcom to give it to Vergil.
@@Timebomb_19 l know Virgil is not the one who started it. But he is a very big part of what makes the move famous. Kinda like how Halo was not the first FPS but it did make it popular and revolutionize it
Ah yes, Anime Man, one of the most powerful superheroes of all
This is gonna be a top 5 comment watch
@@mccudi2134 you were so close to right
For some reason i think.
KYOSHIN VS RONIN.
would be an amazing fight both Physical and in ideology.
@Vanica True but in a one on one fight i think they would not use them because of Honor.
That’s kind of a vague thing to say by itself. Is it taking into account the Kyoshin not using his powers for a unfair advantage? And also, what Kyoshin gear would he have? Cause some sets have no armor, and same are full on samurai armor. Same for a Ronin, that’s a very vague term that could mean a lot of things. It could be a dude in a straw hat and not much else, but it could also be a guy in full samurai armor and with a spear.
@@kaijuslayer3334 Same gear as each other so it would come down to skill.
@@rodan9773 I’d reckon a average religious warrior trained from near birth would fair better then a unemployed samurai. So probably Kyoshin.
@@kaijuslayer3334 What if the unemployed samurai had also been trained since childhood ?
Best for honor youtuber no cap, so much effort in every video.
You dont know how happy i am to bump into your channel. Keep it up homie i love these videos
Oh let's gooo, you'r doing a great job bro! All my strength for everything you'r going through tho
So we doing magic in for honor now.
A friend of mine recently became a Yamabushi, so this was nice to watch :D
I'm upset you didn't mention the greatest one eyed swordsman in manga:
Guts
Though granted, his eye is missing to show his constant suffering and what he's lost, not to show he has been enlightened.... Though it could be argued that he has seen deeper than nearly the entire cast.
I mean, there’s plenty of one eyed swordsman in fiction, and I don’t think of Guts when I think of Kyoshin
@@rhett6946 kyoshin has literally nothing to do with guts.
relating guts to kyoshin is like saying my grandpa is like kyoshin because he's blind in one eye, they aren't correlated in any way. The fact Guts is a japanese anime doesn't count as correlation.
Bro they literally have NO CONNECTIONS.
From what I understand about the sword, is that those designs were never designed for battle. They were temporary storage for blades that have yet to be furnished. They were often kept as family heirlooms, probably so that successors could embellish them as they please.
You know, would it be so hard for the For Honor devs to take these AMAZING characters and their backstories and implement them into the story mode?!
This video is the first time I’ve relized kyoshins actually backstory!
Idea: have a chapter dedicated to a new hero for people who want to play as them and learn their move sets as well as their backstories… just a thought
I think the closest we'll get as far as kyoshin is tozen
Fantastic work Raven!! I recently found you through the algorithm and thank fuck I did!! I listened to all your vids in a few days because of how engaging and factual you are. I feel the work you put in, and it's making me eager to come back when I get a notification or make me check your account daily.
I also was here in time to watch the recent incidents about your life and your family's experiences. I hope you can keep your head high, enjoy the vacation, and your parents pull through.
Much love from a now regular viewer 😁
This is so good very good explanation keep up brother ! loving these heroes history
Your page is informative! I just want to say thank you and keep it going !😁
This video came out sooner than I expected
Love the ending bit with this one.
I love these videos, I didn’t even know that those monks actually existed. I love learning about what inspires these for Honor characters, even if some of them are a bit wacky like warmonger or Griffin. I do have one that pic though I feel like Zuko (I hope I’m spelling that right I’m probably not) Wasn’t necessarily the best example. He didn’t get his scar from his skill in battle or from a sacrifice to get strength. It came from essentially his disobedience to his father and their following Agni Ki (OK I definitely know I didn’t spell that right) Sorry I know it’s such a random that pick that was the only part of the video where I was like🤨. I do know most but not all of the other characters that you said and I did believe those were accurate so I thought that Zuko being there was a bit weird. Anyway I’ll shut up now great video.
Finally the video is up now people will shut up about it, great video man
You definitely went decently into pop culture influence but there was some missing info on the history side. There seems to be at least minor reference to the Sohei class of warrior monks from feudal Japan in how Kyoshin’s cosmetics are designed. Especially later on. Helms like the Oni mask or Basket helm resemble mythical depictions of sohei using masks of yokai or specifically Oni, and common wandering monks respectably. With head pieces like the Oni mask having white straps that resemble the head-wrappings they would have.
Meanwhile for the body, there’s a lot of usage of robes and kimonos, with the two prior helms being paired with very monk looking half robes. Yet also a lot of the armor, including the samurai armor (which sohei did use). Still use a lot of straps and wraps of lightly colored fabric compared to other samurai heroes. As well as wrappings around the neck resembling the base of where normal head wrappings would be. Giving even the full on armor, monk like qualities. Not to mention, the lack of a proper helmet option is something mimicked by sohei. As helmets were rarely used and only saw usage in the Sengoku Jidai.
With all this, the Kyoshin lore-wise are basically monks to begin with. Or warriors of some kind of temple/religious order. So even if they visually had no reference to sohei, them being religious Japanese warriors already kind of makes them sohei.
You say they have no visual reference to Sohei, but your rationale for why they are is due to their clothing and cosmetics. So they do have a sohei appearance. While I agree Sohei we’re likely an influence, I stand by my position on the yamabushi…you know…that part in the video where I discussed their ideology and historical outlook in comparison to the kyoshin? You know…the history portion? I take slight umbrage at the insinuation that my video was mostly pop culture references more than history. I’m not denying that I failed to mention the Sohei were a possible reference, but I didn’t just ignore history either. I mention Yamabushi, Shugendo, and Onmyoji mages. I discuss historical and religious ideologies and folklore concerning spiritualism. This was not just pop culture.
@@RavenKnightYT I’m not saying you’re wrong. You already named multiple influences, there’s no one influence. I’m just naming one you missed given you didn’t give much on history, more of pop culture. Also I didn’t say they didn’t have a sohei appearance. I said at the end basically that, even if they didn’t, they would still be sohei in their actions. It was more of just me showing off that there would be a reference to sohei even if there were no visual references. Again, I wasn’t criticizing your take. I just thought the history aspect was missing a bit of information compared to the pop culture section. Especially with something as general and almost as iconic as the samurai like the sohei being said missing piece. This is “Heroes in History” after all.
@@kaijuslayer3334 “you don’t give much on history,” is the part I take issue with. Considering half the video is dedicated to establishing parallels to the yamabushi and kyoshin lore. I’m sorry I didn’t mention much on the sohei, but I won’t pretend I don’t feel a little insulted right now, considering the work I put into this.
My man continue with vids they are very good
I have been to Yamabushi as a child and this training is true but some is misleaded, you won't fully know till you go, like most things in life.
but the sword style Is Iaijutsu not Iaido because jutsu means you adapted it into your personal way making it more indepth meanwhile do is style in general and more basic. ((btw idk why they call the sword Shikomizue because in Japan it's Shirasaya, take in mind different regions of Japan speak different)) yes I am a Japanese and Buddhist, so if you have any questions... btw if you hear Koryu it's refering Battojutsu from Budo and that's Iaijutsu+Kenjutsu also he keeps the Shirasaya close like they do in Haidonggumdo((Korean Katana Style))
Right after I wrote this I texted my teacher, Shirasaya and Shikomizue are the same just I Shikomizue is Concealed meaning Disguised most of the time as Bamboo or a Cane like the Rattan. -Tomoya Yamaguchi 🇯🇵
I plan to travel to Japan soon, and I’ll be making a point to visit that mountain where they have the Yamabushi experience. I’d really enjoy that.
@@RavenKnightYT They don't teach morality but they teach you to be you, open minded, humble, disciplined, no opinionated feelings, just a strong independent mind to do what YOU want~~ WILLPOWER 根性
*"Homie just name drop GaijinGoomba"*
Yup. Because he oddly believes that ninja were the developers of Shugendo principles…when they were not.
Really cool ! I love your voice and I understand everything you said even if I'm not English native 👍
Love these series
Hey man I love the videos and have a question who do you believe will win in the end of the Civil War and of all the leaders in the lore who could beat who
Great video man !
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Kenshi Takahashi, good video though!
Kyoshin just reminds me of kenshin more than anything. I haven’t seen the anime but he definitely shares similar moves to the live action especially the first one “the beginning”
Oh baby it’s time to learn
addicted to these
Bruh the gryphon in the backround🥶
8:03 In modern times, this is a reference to Iaido/Iaijutsu. Basically you draw the katana's blade and re-sheaths back into the sheath, which Iaido is used to clear one's mind and focus on the imaginary opponent mentally. Zatoichi has the same style and if you notice how they hold, with one hand holding the sword and the other holding the sheath, similar to Vergil, Zoro, or Brook.
Can we just appreciate the simple fashion in the Kyoshin Trailer
Shut up
Subjective.
Could you do a video on seijuro as I feel like he has more than just his surface level greed
He was also the inspiration for Rahm Kota and Kanan Jarrus from star wars. Jedi who both went blind, and reached new levels of enlightenment after loosing there sight.
kyoshin resonates with me on spiritual level
yeesss!!!!! ty @ Raven Knight
Bro just when you said fujitora from one piece I was just thinking about him! I was like" hmm it sounds like that blind swordsman from one piece"
A tenchu fatal shadows boss named nasu is very much like kyoshin but a fat blind swordsman. He uses the same weapon and the infamous drawing out the sword and putting back in the sheath to perform a finishing type move.
Awwww you didn’t add that scene from DBZ when Trunks did the sword click on Frieza’s goons
i think the Kyoshin should be called Hitokirin and the hitokiri its the one that should be call Kyoshin, (in the stetic way) because Kyoshin looks more like how i imagine the 4 hitokiris of the bakumatsu, and the hitokiri in for honor looks more like a monk or a yamabuchi
Thx for the video
Probably the closest hero we ever get to battosai the manslayer or maybe his master hiko seijuro
I think personally. Kyoshin was made to represent a spectrum of warriors of both sengoku period and the Genpei war. Minamoto no yoshitsune who was a feminine looking man, who beat the warrior monk Benkei with his agility. The long hair is important as it’s Uncharacteristic of samurai to wear long hair. I do believe some of the warriors faces on Kyoshin are other warriors like Date Masamune.
i wish they had a tied up hair headgear with a headband, bcuz in game its either a whole helmet, or long hair
Great video, thx! :)
Hi i love your videos
God bless you
never looked at it like that
Epic video
The Zatoichi vibes are strong
how can you not talk about the similarity with attack on titans season 4 eren?
one thing you forgot to mention: to balance out their nonexistent skill with their k/d ratio they spam kaze stance unblocables
Where's the track at the end from, though?
In the age of samurai show there was a samurai who cut out his left eye on the battlefield due to sustaining an injury to it
Do kensei or orochi history next
I main kyoshin as i feel the most personally connected to him through my adherence to perception, neutrality and balance and im glad for honor shows us what that kind of warrior would look like.
please can you do a highlander video
My boy with his kyoshin references 🍘
Kyoshin out there somehow remind me of a certain Wuxia character from some daoism cultivation novel
Ukyo Tachibana from Samurai Shodown
Can you talk about the Shaman
And Vergil from Devil may Cry does the Sheet Move
There's one more influence that you forgot to mention which is Rurouni Kenshin
You poor man, had to do this so quickly for all of the whiners I would have waited months and been happy
Bro please make a video for highlander
I think the Kyoshin group is my favorite, because the only reason they join is because they had enough from Horkos/Chimera BS xd.
With that said, Vergil Jetstream hero let's GOOOOOO
Oooooooohhhh who the hell is it?! Huh that’s kinda cool
Sow bassicly they are litterly the samurai version of shaolin. 🤣 not gona lie I love the karakter even more now. You which karakter I would love to see shugoki. We all know there based on sumo wrestlers, but I really want to know I sumo warrior actuely whent to the battlefield or not.
Can you do Shinobi next?
Already got Highlander scheduled next. Shinobi is on the to do list though.
@@RavenKnightYT Great i'm looking forwort to both of them. Generally i'm a big fan of this kind of content and i appreciate how much work goes into this
1:40 so basically a DMT trip.
Do shugoki next?!?!
Agreed
0:45, the Centurion isn’t holding his weapon 😅
Good, Evil? I reject them both
Bro, didn't you say that you'd make the For Honor Analysis vid first and then make the Heroes in History vid?
Read the description.
He said in the description why he did the heroes in history first.
Sorry.....
How do you not mention kaneki Ken
The one eyed king
Just a suggestion but it may be easier to continue to do heros in history first from now on. To keep the annoying people who won't stop asking for it while your getting the character down for your hero analysis.
YESSS
Surprised that u didn’t even mention Samurai jack
The kyoshin look like tozen the general in viking campaing :v
Idk why but I think of kaname tozen from bleach for some reason
So, are kyoshin just yamabushi but at the end of their journey ?
That could be a good way of looking at them.
Can you do shinobi
He's so fucking Cool
Where is my general tozen hero. Wait no not like that
Ore the dragon of the north, ho cut out his ey bicase it was diformed and was looked down on from other samurai for it, a famous sacrifice 😉
next is Orochi please
I’ve already chosen Highlander to be next.
@@RavenKnightYT oo okay, can't wait for that. So if you don't mind maybe put Orochi in your list thx
Ninja next pls shinobi next pls
they balance with their imbalance...
2:50 that's literally a kyoshin execution lmao
RAVEN IM WAITING FOR ONE PIECE CONTENT NOW
Kyoshin is a One Piece reference. Got it 👍
:)
I don't speak english 😭
Samurai Jedi 😂